Yes! Great tool for grassroots motorsports. I would love to see case studies with a deep dive on specific components created with 3D printing. How they were engineered, specific considerations for 3D printing, what material they were printed with, and how they worked in practice. I have been seeing a lot of serious parts like intake manifolds, ITB adapters, air cleaner housings, and charge tubing created with 3D printers.
Heck yeah that would be great.! I printed a few brake ducts for race cars in the past, using a nylon 6, 66 blend. I anneal the printed part in finely ground salt. It pushes up the heat resistance to over 200C and helps the layers bond. I then soak the part in water which make the nylon super tuff and wear resistant. 🇦🇺🤜🏼🤛🏼😎🍀☮️
I'd like to see more videos for actual prototyping and then installing on a car to test results. Talking more about material selection for different areas of the car for actual bolt on use (ABS, PLA, Polycarbonate, etc.). Also going into softer materials like silicone/rubber to make your own gaskets or seals.
We used functional 3d printing for our Formula Student race car alot. Maybe the most impressive use case was the monocoque. We printed the core of the monocoque from PET-CF, which creates much more geometric freedom at a much lower pricepoint than a aluminium CNC machined honeycomb core. Afterwards we layed up 2mm of regular carbonfiber on top of the core, to obtain the required structrural integrity of the monocoque. The monocoque passed the safety inspection of the dutch FS competition, so that was a big win in our test of "how far can we take 3D printing in the process of building a functional racecar"
One thing he didn't mention about materials like PEEK/PEAK/PEKK is their chemical resistance. Their heat resistance is way more than you need for an engine bay, you could probably bolt them directly to the block and not have any problems depending on the specific material. He did mention that they were "medical" but what that really means is that you can spill oils, acids, and whatever cleaning products on them without worrying about having plastic tar spreading around, I normally think of plastics in that family for their aerospace use since they are used in super hostile environments like satellites regularly. A bit closer to the race car use case than a medical implant. I've been planning a large volume 3d printer for a while to be able to print that properly and man is it a pain in the neck. Bearings, electronics, timing belts and basically every component of a 3d printer all hate the ~200C+ chamber volume required to properly print this type of plastic. I looked up this company and their printer looks more like a kiln than a 3d printer XD
Only issues I've had with those materials is that they tend to have issues with brittleness. That's where a CF Nylon works great or having the ability to do salt or water annealing on high temperature filaments.
Same. Especially since i am using a diy quick release for the steering wheel on my simulator. Since more than 3 years it easily takes up to 20nm (Simucube 1/small Mige motor) and the majority of it is rally. It's one of the parts that just proofs that you can do a lot (even when it comes to some load carrying parts) when you know what you're doing when it comes to designing the part.
That company abuses open source licencing agreements and for the money they charge there are so many better options available. I love 3D printing but I would never use their printers, there are far better companies.
It's funny how their price points are like when the first printers came out that do worse than my $400 creality that prints better then their z layer filled printer lul
You could make it cheaper than just buying one, but thats a lot of work, you gotta build a very airtight, efficient enclosure, then you gotta source 2kw~ worth of heaters, preferably passive rather than fan, then you gotta source a nozzle and heatbreak that can handle the hi temps of those materials, and so on and so forth
Do you want to see more content on 3D printing? What specific topics would you like to see covered or questions answered? - Taz.
Yes! Great tool for grassroots motorsports. I would love to see case studies with a deep dive on specific components created with 3D printing. How they were engineered, specific considerations for 3D printing, what material they were printed with, and how they worked in practice. I have been seeing a lot of serious parts like intake manifolds, ITB adapters, air cleaner housings, and charge tubing created with 3D printers.
Heck yeah that would be great.! I printed a few brake ducts for race cars in the past, using a nylon 6, 66 blend. I anneal the printed part in finely ground salt. It pushes up the heat resistance to over 200C and helps the layers bond. I then soak the part in water which make the nylon super tuff and wear resistant.
🇦🇺🤜🏼🤛🏼😎🍀☮️
I'd like to see more videos for actual prototyping and then installing on a car to test results. Talking more about material selection for different areas of the car for actual bolt on use (ABS, PLA, Polycarbonate, etc.). Also going into softer materials like silicone/rubber to make your own gaskets or seals.
Engine internals: pistons/rods,crankshaft, whatever
Been 3D printing MAF adapters for 2/3 years, I wish to turn it into a full on business !!
What material age you printing with bro?
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@@sexyfacenationNylon
Wire harness assembler here. Love to see any technology.
We used functional 3d printing for our Formula Student race car alot. Maybe the most impressive use case was the monocoque.
We printed the core of the monocoque from PET-CF, which creates much more geometric freedom at a much lower pricepoint than a aluminium CNC machined honeycomb core. Afterwards we layed up 2mm of regular carbonfiber on top of the core, to obtain the required structrural integrity of the monocoque. The monocoque passed the safety inspection of the dutch FS competition, so that was a big win in our test of "how far can we take 3D printing in the process of building a functional racecar"
That is awesome! What a cool project - Taz.
8:28 This is simply AMAZING. That opens a lot of possibilities in terms of designing parts. I'm amazed.
One thing he didn't mention about materials like PEEK/PEAK/PEKK is their chemical resistance. Their heat resistance is way more than you need for an engine bay, you could probably bolt them directly to the block and not have any problems depending on the specific material. He did mention that they were "medical" but what that really means is that you can spill oils, acids, and whatever cleaning products on them without worrying about having plastic tar spreading around, I normally think of plastics in that family for their aerospace use since they are used in super hostile environments like satellites regularly. A bit closer to the race car use case than a medical implant.
I've been planning a large volume 3d printer for a while to be able to print that properly and man is it a pain in the neck. Bearings, electronics, timing belts and basically every component of a 3d printer all hate the ~200C+ chamber volume required to properly print this type of plastic. I looked up this company and their printer looks more like a kiln than a 3d printer XD
thanks for your addition!
Only issues I've had with those materials is that they tend to have issues with brittleness. That's where a CF Nylon works great or having the ability to do salt or water annealing on high temperature filaments.
I'm using 3D printing (resin) to replace old worn out plastic parts of my old timer so I don't have to shell up massive cross world shipping fees 👍
Already said yes before even watching the video lol. Love to see rapid iteration and innovation.
Same.
Especially since i am using a diy quick release for the steering wheel on my simulator. Since more than 3 years it easily takes up to 20nm (Simucube 1/small Mige motor) and the majority of it is rally.
It's one of the parts that just proofs that you can do a lot (even when it comes to some load carrying parts) when you know what you're doing when it comes to designing the part.
PCB Way are surprisingly cheap for metal printing
Q: Does 3D Printing Have A Place In Motorsports...? A: Papadakis and Aasbo say YES... 😉
laser sintering for metal parts is already pretty common
That company abuses open source licencing agreements and for the money they charge there are so many better options available. I love 3D printing but I would never use their printers, there are far better companies.
It's funny how their price points are like when the first printers came out that do worse than my $400 creality that prints better then their z layer filled printer lul
Does it have a place?
They are doing it for like 20 years already 😂😂😂
You sure it isn't longer? 😉 - Taz.
@@hpa101 Depends how many way we include in the term 3D print as we know it now 😅
I'm already doing this lul
Good man. Certainly nothing new but there are a lot of people who are just starting out as it grows and grows =) - Taz.
Why is this so expensive?! You can get a large scale 3d printer capable of printing PEEK/carbon fibre etc for a few hundred dollars
Where can you get a printer with 400c nozzle heated build chamber up to 100c for a few hundred bucks?
@ashcadelanne8524 link please. I'm skeptical, but we all would love to see you prove this statement to be correct and accurate - Taz.
Seriously getting a good PEEK print takes 200C+ chamber. There’s no printer even remotely close to a few hundred dollars that can do that
You could make it cheaper than just buying one, but thats a lot of work, you gotta build a very airtight, efficient enclosure, then you gotta source 2kw~ worth of heaters, preferably passive rather than fan, then you gotta source a nozzle and heatbreak that can handle the hi temps of those materials, and so on and so forth
It certainly wouldn't be a few hundred, that would get you like a tronxy 400mm as a base. That's it