@@veghesther3204 it's really only viable at the beginning of the battle anyway, and its a multi party system. So there's many times when u may not have quistis
The Italian localisation of FF8 did an incredible job as they adapted Doomtrain name to Kharonte, to resemble the infernal ferryman of Dante's Divina Commedia
@@SorcererLance Those are just alternate spellings due to the overlap in how certain Japanese sounds are romanized. it's worth noting that Ultimecia and the Ultima spell both share the same first three characters in Japanese, so romanizing them consistently makes sense.
Ff8 is my favorite by far, and doomtrain was my favorite guardian force. A summon that inflicts every single status effect is useful in so many ways...
diabolos was also in ff11 where it is discovered he controls the ream of dreams and in turn was the one who created dynamis through the shadowlord. his prime fight was no joke as the arena would drop away slowlly, and at the time you had to have a good stun rotation to not get hit by his nightmare attack or risk a wipe. He ended up as one of the more popular summons due to his dmg was good. Pretty much was a must have back in the day.
@@gorimbaud in ff14 Eden is the first sin eater and has a raid series tied to it. Learn more of the story of how the shadowbrings calamity of light and how it went down and in fact use edan to start a reset to fix the world.
Yeah, especially since the smaller one is the older one. I always thought it would've been cool if like they had an animation for the smaller one being thrown as well. Perhaps have it differ too in damage. Like perhaps Sacred doing more physical damage and Minotaur causing like status effects or debuffs with the downside of being weaker damage-wise.
@@AnimeSquirrel Yeah, that'd be cool if they could do that. Fix the Junction system a bit more too. It got to be way too easy later in the game. Pretty much just use Cerberus, Triple cast Haste, Regen, and any other good buffs and then Meltdown. Then triple cast Aura and spam Limit Breaks. You could cast Ultima too, but this was way easier. Unless you used Selphie or Zell.
@@MajorTeag funniest part is the older brother cheats on the rock paper scissors. They both throw down rock and then quickly the older brother extends his fingers to change it to paper…soooooo good . Love FFVIII
Here are a few more: FFVIII - MiniMog. Not obscure because of its source material, but obscure in that it was completely locked out of the US Release. It was originally only available by playing the Chocobo World Pocketstation game. The Remastered version makes it available with Angelo Search. FFT - Two of them. Salamader, a well-known summon from the Mana series, appears as a mid-level fire summon in Tactics and Revenant Wings only. There's also an obscure summon hidden in the game that most people just don't know about. Midgardsormr, who has also been known in the series as Terrato, Midgar Zolom, and Midgar Swarm, is actually in the game as an enemy-only summon used by the boss of the deep dungeon, Elidibus. Of course, Elidibus's enemy AI only results in it being cast when he doesn't have enough MP for Zodiark, but still has enough for Midgardsormr... a situation which is pretty rare. Hence, most people never see it.
The PC release of VIII did include Chocobo World as a separate program. That's the main reason VIII is the game with the most hours logged on my Steam profile.
Actually MiniMog (and Mumba and Sabotendar if I am not mistaken) were not locked in the US (or EU) release, if you had a PocketStation imported from Japan, you could use it to play the mini game and get the items in the game :)
The reason Glasya Labolas was changed to DoomTrain is space limitations. The name screen for GFs only has space for 9 characters. GlasyaLabolas is minimum 13 characters, 14 if you put a space.
@@maxspecs Glasya Labolas is a dog bird, your argument is invalid... Funny memes aside, the original name is a reference to a demon president and fallen angel of the Ars Goetia who takes the shape of a winged dog. Glasya Labolas incited people to bloodshed and was regarded as the one behind all the world's homicides.
Oh my god. This has been a mystery to me since 1999. I had Japanese Triple Triad cards and I could read Japanese fairly well. I couldn’t make heads or tails of what the katakana for Doomtrain was supposed to be! Now I finally know!!
8 in general had some wild summons lol They had Quetzcotl as the lightning summon instead of Ramuh, they had Brothers instead of Titan as the earth summon, Pandemona was only in that game too, then you had the silly ones like Tonberry and Cactuar, then you has Odin, Gilgamesh and Phoenix that appeared at random...8 summons were kinda all over the place 😂
@@LyntzbartzkyPerez Yeah, I usually use them once or twice just to test them out, or if I'm in a pinch. Carbuncle is OP in the first battle with Edea though. Cerberus basically makes most battles simple. Summon it, get Double and Triple status and then triplecast all the buff spells. Regen, Haste, Protect, etc. ending with Aura. Then just Limit Break to your heart's content. About the only one it doesn't work on is Omega Weapon and maybe Ultima Weapon.
@@MajorTeag nah all that shit for me us just way too much work for my lazy ass. Quistis can can just do all that with mighty guard so all i really need is one aura on her. I only get Cerberus for its abilities. But whatever floats your boat. I think Doomtrain is more useful
@@LyntzbartzkyPerez Yeah. I never really used Quistis my first time through. I stuck with Squall, Rinoa, and Irvine. I played the remaster a while back and used Quistis more and I can see where she is useful. Doomtrain is pretty cool too.
I think for me my favorite obscure-ish summon was Diabolos. He was completely missable in his first appearance in FF8, he was so well received that it was ret-conned into the release FF6 Advance, and has been sparingly used since, usually as an enemy of sorts.
Ahh but kujata has amazing defensive properties. Paired with elemental on the armor slots and you have a vast amount of elemental resistance!... But yeah I almost never cast it offensively since it usually cures the enemy
On the topic of Unicorn, Unicorn basically just jumped franchises. It appeared in Chrono Cross as a Light element summon that did essentially exactly what it did in FF, heal the party. Just thought I'd throw that tidbit of knowledge out there.
"Devil Thomas" that is amazing. Ty I never once thought for a second that doomttain was strange, I just accepted it along with many questionable ffviii bit (T-Rex in the school's garden).. but you are right, that is a little unconventional 🤭 Alex being a castle ppl live in..I thought was weird.
Whyt was more than just a cameo in ffbe, it was a full blown relevant story character and there was a whole village of them actually. It taught the main characters how to polymorph (which was a full on story point) versus becoming an esper you could summon due to lacking combat abilities. But it just kept showing up in the second and third story chapters. Though the four chapter is set in a place that’s hard to get to physically so chances are it won’t show up again.
My favorite summons are actually the Bravely Default ones. They're mythicized real-life objects, since the real world of the player is a dimension that's in contact with the game world. The fire summon is a train The wind summon is a plane The earth summon is a city The water summon is a griefing woman The lightning summon is a clockwork/tv-station The dark summon is a telephone pole (that gets used like a sword) The final light summon is uh... just straight up Amaterasu.
For me, the Ark fought in Oilvert is the same as the summon but weak because his homeland Terra is dying but when he has the full Pumice he regains his strengh being able to transform and perform Eternal Darkness
Eggman also made a cameo in Chocobo Racing (PS1), specifically in the ending credits. During a short segment of the ending movie, the Black Magician (black mage) morphs into Eggman along with other creatures from the FF universe. A very obscure reference for western gamers, but probably another nostalgia bomb for Japanese players.
I’m surprised you didn’t mention the unicorn mount in ff14 and that only lvl 30 conjurers (pre white mage class) were the only ones to get it. Also I think phantom train from Sigmascape could be a reference to doom train
Unicorn also makes an appearance in FF14 as a unlockable mount for completing an optional quest that only becomes available upon hitting level 30 Conjuror/White Mage
@matt You had to get the Solomon Ring (I think it was at Tears Point?), and use the Occult Fan magazines to find hints on the items you need in your inventory to use the ring and get Doomtrain (6 steel pipes, 6 Remedy+, and 6 Marlboro tentacles).
@@hanniballahr94 True, but the thing with FF8 is, thanks to Triple Triad and GF abilities, getting items is too easy. All that was needed was the Solomon Ring from Tear's point.
I distinctly remember Kujata for having a very strange folkloric origin. Kujata originates from Arabic folklore, said to be the cosmic bull that stands atop the back of Bahamut (who is actually a whale or fish, the dragon form came from DnD). Kujata possesses 40,000 horns, legs, eyes, ears, mouths and tongues, and his breathing is the tides itself. On Kujata’s back stands a mountain made of ruby, and upon that stands an angel, who is carrying the world itself.
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Unicorn does feature in FFXIV - as a mount only obtainable by White Mages. If you want to get technical, mounts in 14 ARE "summoned." It's also very pretty, and among my favorite mounts, naturally!
I remember Kujata. The ONLY task I didn't accomplish in FFVII was to defeat Ruby and Emerald weapons. Other than that....maxed out! I had Doom Train as well. Used it a lot. I maxed out FFVIII, too. One of my passions as a youth and boy was I hooked, especially RPG's.
FFVI has a lot of obscure summons which I would like to see again like Lakshmi, Phantom, Seraph, Valigarmanda (but I guess Quezacolt from VIII is a successor of sorts )
I just did the Alexander raid last night in FFXIV with my girl, and was gushing over to her how Cruise Chaser was both a reference to Ark and an older Squaresoft game.
Bought it as a mount in a recent sale. Still a bit steep price wise for a mount, even when reduced, but how could I not be hyped about having my own Ark that transforms between mech and airship forms? Even my tiny little yellow fluffed lala self looks cool riding on that thing.
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Huh! So, in Record Keeper, there's a tier of relics called "Limit Break Guardians", which gives certain characters an FFX-style summon, with its stats being determined by how many limit bars are spent when summoning it. Quistis's Limit Guardian is Doomtrain, naturally, since the game kits her primarily as a poison-element mage, but in its info screen, there are some fields where the name is Glasya Labolas instead. I never understood why until watching this video!
I don't remember "Kujata" being spelled that way. I vividly remember it being "Kjata" with no U in the spelling. Yet another Mandela Effect I have with this game... it's honestly starting to freak me out because even though I haven't played the original FFVII in years, I played it enough back in the day to know it like the back of my hand. I even still have my off brand memory card with my 100% complete save file on it (aside from the final battle with Sephiroth, that's all that's left to do on that save file). I really need to play the game start to finish again to see what else has changed..
@@PowerPandaMods Yes. Kjata was a mistranslation, similar to Aeris. Like Aeris being corrected back to Aerith, Kjata was corrected back to Kujata later.
The PSX translation of VII was only used for the PSX release of the game. Every subsequent release used the PC translation, so that spelling would have suffered the same fate as "This guy are sick."
7:47 Ark will forever be my favorite summon. i beat ff9 thanks to it. at the last fight, the only one surviving an attack was garnet, she got into trance and started summoning ark indefinetly. thanks to an ability from her, the full summon animation (over 1 min) played every time... she also had a passive ability of auto healing a small amount.... so over like 15min she just summoned her way to victory while healing to full every time
I had completely forgotten about Whyt (and that was such a mystery to me I pretty much ignored it, it was just weird enough). Doom Train, good memories! Also, I think that 7 (well going off vague memories) had a chocoMog summon. Pretty much would run over your enemy and leave. Not seen it since, far I know.
Choco/Mog also had a second potential attack, where it just drops a Fat Chocobo on the enemy. But it's basically just VII's version of a Chocobo summon, which has appeared in many other games. They also return for VII Remake, but Choco/Mog and Fat Chocobo are now separate materia.
Now that Square owns Taito's game catalogue, they should have Bub and Bob from Bubble Bobble as a summon. They could appear, spray the field of battle with bubbles and turn any defeated enemy into foid.
Fun Fact: In the original Kingdom Hearts game, Sora was supposed to be able Behamut. This was either a scrapped idea or a placeholder as it is still the game's code. Attempting to use it will crash the game since it is trying load a model that does not exist.
When you defeat Ark in Oeilvert, it relinquishes only a Pumice Piece. Maybe it could not transform because it did not have access to its full power, only when summoned with the full Pumice.
Excellent video! I didn't know you can summon the egg in FF5. I know it is unused graphics that is there in all incarnations - SNES, GBA, PC. Probably you should call this "10 most ...". The first thing that comes in my mind is Eden from FF8 - very very long animation with limit break; Yojimbo from FF10
Eggman and Ramih were good ones! Other obscure ones I'd have liked to see are: Asura (FF4), Tritoch (FF6), Hades (FF7), Quezacotl (FF8), Brynhildr (FF13) and Hecatoncheir (FF13)
@@s-wo8781 Neither is Hecatoncheir but the FF XIII summons are part of the story so. I think a lot of people think of obscure as not used much and it seems semi not know but not "impossible". Also people in general think their rare finds are obscure. Doom train is not that unknown.
5:39 Or maybe... the Unicorn mount for WHM in FFXIV? Since that job uses Holy spells in combat and you must be a WHM in order to accept the quest to get..... Unicorn?
I always felt that FF12's espers were really unique but also very different in terms of how they looked. Some had very clear designs as to what they were, but a majority of them were almost on a biblical-angel kind of level where they may have actually lacked a face or were part of some kind of set-piece. They were just strange looking overall.
just to add on, Unicorn DID appear in FFXIV. it's a mount that you can get ONLY as a White Mage, where a quest open up at level 30 or something (cant remember too clearly). So yeah it is still related to the holy element, since it is linked to WHM.
Loved the video! Summoners are always my favorit classes in these games. So many of them with complex stories. I wish they would expand on some of their origins. They sure are interesting.
I remember a random drop in Final Fantasy IV, Goblin, I think. I remember farming for it in the Cave of Mists, before fighting the mist dragon/killing Rydia's mother.
As always, fantastic video, I will continue watching, I love your videos. If I may make a suggestion, please show all the summons actions while explaining. Ie, we never got to see what whyt’s summon action was. Without a doubt not a criticism, but a mere suggestion. Thank you so much!
In Final Fantasy XIV, the class Conjurer has a class specific mount called Unicorn and although Conjurer eventually turns into the White Mage, I think the name "Conjurer" more evokes imagery of a Summoner and might be a tip of the hat to the origins in FF... or maybe I'm just reaching for something that isn't there. 🤣
Kjata wasn't just Fire/Ice/Lightning, he was also Earth. Which was another big problem, since nothing in that game was weak to earth, and anything that flew was immune to it (and thus the attack). The three-element Kujata (now with a u) was in FF7 Rebirth, since they make Quake into a non-elemental spell in that game.
My favorite summon is Final Fantasy VI - Valigarmanda and it is a beautiful, mysterious, crazy elemental bird that throws out three major elements everywhere at once. So, Final Fantasy VI had is fair share of interesting list of summons, hence Final Fantasy VIII had is share of summons too. Over all, I do enjoy the unique idea of having powerful beings helping you save the world from certain chaos AND they either place you under a trial OR try to kill you for being a false God.
Okay that "Devil Thomas" thing has me laughing pretty hard, that's nuts. I actually think Diablos is one of the most interesting summons in the series, because to me it is kind of figuratively and literally the gateway to playing Final Fantasy 8 for real, to really exploring what was possible with the game systems, Triple Triad, etc. All of that depends on the player's choice to mess around with this weird optional item that is weirdly dropped into your inventory very early on, and which at first blush might seem "too hard, not supposed to do this now"... of course if you know how the game works, you would also know that that is an impossibility, and it will only get stronger as you do : D
RE: Doomtrain: Not Remedies. Remedy+'s. That means you had to feed the Alexander GF AP for two skills to get med-lvl-up, which allows you to refine 60 Remedy's into 6 Remedy+.
Doomtrain is my absolute favorite summons. So bizarre, but the literal first action I take in any fight. Meltdown FTW!
Only FF6 beats that. Summoning the pure VOID !!!
My kind of meltdown : Vanish....X-zone!!! (Vanish... Doom!)
2 moves to a win, as in chess
@Shawn Desper Doom train is far from trash with his defensive junctions, man.
Doomtrains abilities make him great alone, but a summon that inflicts every single status effect? That's extremely useful...
Yes but summoning it is NOT worth it when at low HP Bad Breath Quistis DOES the same THING AS it.
@@veghesther3204 it's really only viable at the beginning of the battle anyway, and its a multi party system. So there's many times when u may not have quistis
The Italian localisation of FF8 did an incredible job as they adapted Doomtrain name to Kharonte, to resemble the infernal ferryman of Dante's Divina Commedia
That was just Dante adapting Charon, the ferryman to Hades in Greek mythology.
@@gorimbaud you are right, Caron was there ages before Divina Commedia. In any case, Kharonte was the perfect name for Doomtrain 😁
also having Ultimecia as Artimecia, which may have been her intended name... same with i think French having Rinoa as Lenore
@@SorcererLance Those are just alternate spellings due to the overlap in how certain Japanese sounds are romanized. it's worth noting that Ultimecia and the Ultima spell both share the same first three characters in Japanese, so romanizing them consistently makes sense.
@@gorimbaud FF8 got so much wrong, Lagunarock is an example - it's RAGNAROK. It always made me wonder if Laguna is supposed to be called RAGNAR.
I loved how FF8 had a good mix of iconic summons and unique summons.
Ghost Train being such a smooth play.
*doink*
Not that surprising, since FF8 probably has the most summons, that also aren't upgraded versions
Absolutely agree. There was always something new but not completely unfamiliar
Ff8 is my favorite by far, and doomtrain was my favorite guardian force. A summon that inflicts every single status effect is useful in so many ways...
Aside from Doomtrain, FF8's Eden and Diabolos were somewhat obscure at the time but were given interesting storylines in FF14.
Pandemonum, and Quezacoatl too
I don't know about Diabolos, since he's had a few appearances in other games, though Eden is definitely VIII's signature summon.
diabolos was also in ff11 where it is discovered he controls the ream of dreams and in turn was the one who created dynamis through the shadowlord. his prime fight was no joke as the arena would drop away slowlly, and at the time you had to have a good stun rotation to not get hit by his nightmare attack or risk a wipe. He ended up as one of the more popular summons due to his dmg was good. Pretty much was a must have back in the day.
@@gorimbaud in ff14 Eden is the first sin eater and has a raid series tied to it. Learn more of the story of how the shadowbrings calamity of light and how it went down and in fact use edan to start a reset to fix the world.
Eden's inclusion makes sense considering 8's theme with Gardens
I'm a fan of The Minotaur Brothers from FF8. The fact that they play Rock Paper Scissors to see who throws whom always makes me smile.
Yeah, especially since the smaller one is the older one. I always thought it would've been cool if like they had an animation for the smaller one being thrown as well. Perhaps have it differ too in damage. Like perhaps Sacred doing more physical damage and Minotaur causing like status effects or debuffs with the downside of being weaker damage-wise.
@@MajorTeag maybe in the remake :😀
@@AnimeSquirrel Yeah, that'd be cool if they could do that. Fix the Junction system a bit more too. It got to be way too easy later in the game. Pretty much just use Cerberus, Triple cast Haste, Regen, and any other good buffs and then Meltdown. Then triple cast Aura and spam Limit Breaks. You could cast Ultima too, but this was way easier. Unless you used Selphie or Zell.
@@MajorTeag funniest part is the older brother cheats on the rock paper scissors. They both throw down rock and then quickly the older brother extends his fingers to change it to paper…soooooo good . Love FFVIII
@@Ivana_Jirkmenov Wow, I never noticed that. I guess that's why Sacred looks so shocked then hehe.
Here are a few more:
FFVIII - MiniMog. Not obscure because of its source material, but obscure in that it was completely locked out of the US Release. It was originally only available by playing the Chocobo World Pocketstation game. The Remastered version makes it available with Angelo Search.
FFT - Two of them. Salamader, a well-known summon from the Mana series, appears as a mid-level fire summon in Tactics and Revenant Wings only. There's also an obscure summon hidden in the game that most people just don't know about. Midgardsormr, who has also been known in the series as Terrato, Midgar Zolom, and Midgar Swarm, is actually in the game as an enemy-only summon used by the boss of the deep dungeon, Elidibus. Of course, Elidibus's enemy AI only results in it being cast when he doesn't have enough MP for Zodiark, but still has enough for Midgardsormr... a situation which is pretty rare. Hence, most people never see it.
Yeah, he should've used Mini Mog for VIII instead. I don't consider Doomtrain obscure.
Additionally, though it's technically not a summon due to using an item for it, I'd say Moomba. Only appears in Final Fantasy VIII and nowhere else.
@@drunkdrag0n So obscure that I forgot about it!
The PC release of VIII did include Chocobo World as a separate program. That's the main reason VIII is the game with the most hours logged on my Steam profile.
Actually MiniMog (and Mumba and Sabotendar if I am not mistaken) were not locked in the US (or EU) release, if you had a PocketStation imported from Japan, you could use it to play the mini game and get the items in the game :)
The reason Glasya Labolas was changed to DoomTrain is space limitations. The name screen for GFs only has space for 9 characters. GlasyaLabolas is minimum 13 characters, 14 if you put a space.
Doomtrain’s a cooler name anyways.
@@maxspecs Glasya Labolas is a dog bird, your argument is invalid... Funny memes aside, the original name is a reference to a demon president and fallen angel of the Ars Goetia who takes the shape of a winged dog. Glasya Labolas incited people to bloodshed and was regarded as the one behind all the world's homicides.
@Groisu In a certain sense it it, Handsome Arakune. In a sense it is.
Oh my god. This has been a mystery to me since 1999. I had Japanese Triple Triad cards and I could read Japanese fairly well. I couldn’t make heads or tails of what the katakana for Doomtrain was supposed to be! Now I finally know!!
Next time Doom Train appears, it's attack should be a Suplex or grant it to whomever has it.
Revange Suplex should be, no more people suplexing trains now, NO MORE! xDDD
8 in general had some wild summons lol They had Quetzcotl as the lightning summon instead of Ramuh, they had Brothers instead of Titan as the earth summon, Pandemona was only in that game too, then you had the silly ones like Tonberry and Cactuar, then you has Odin, Gilgamesh and Phoenix that appeared at random...8 summons were kinda all over the place 😂
Don't forget Minimog, Boko, and Moomba. Also Cerberus. Probably the most useful out of all the GFs.
@@MajorTeagcerberus? I never use them lol
@@LyntzbartzkyPerez Yeah, I usually use them once or twice just to test them out, or if I'm in a pinch. Carbuncle is OP in the first battle with Edea though. Cerberus basically makes most battles simple. Summon it, get Double and Triple status and then triplecast all the buff spells. Regen, Haste, Protect, etc. ending with Aura. Then just Limit Break to your heart's content. About the only one it doesn't work on is Omega Weapon and maybe Ultima Weapon.
@@MajorTeag nah all that shit for me us just way too much work for my lazy ass. Quistis can can just do all that with mighty guard so all i really need is one aura on her. I only get Cerberus for its abilities. But whatever floats your boat. I think Doomtrain is more useful
@@LyntzbartzkyPerez Yeah. I never really used Quistis my first time through. I stuck with Squall, Rinoa, and Irvine. I played the remaster a while back and used Quistis more and I can see where she is useful. Doomtrain is pretty cool too.
I think for me my favorite obscure-ish summon was Diabolos. He was completely missable in his first appearance in FF8, he was so well received that it was ret-conned into the release FF6 Advance, and has been sparingly used since, usually as an enemy of sorts.
If you're not aware, they brought him back as a relatively important figure in FFXIV during the Heavensward Alliance Raid series.
I can't call him obscure since due to the discussion around FF8 he was arguably the most famous summon in 8.
He also appears in the mobile Final Fantasy game FF:Brave Exvius. He is pretty strong.
@@Kokorae FF XIV has everything... more or less.
Cid: "Before you continue your journey, let me give you this lamp. I will not tell you that IT HAS THE DEVIL IN IT!!!"
Doomtrain and Jumbo Cactuar in FF8 are my two favorite Summons that you have to go out of the way to get!
Also Tonberry. Doink!
Ahh but kujata has amazing defensive properties. Paired with elemental on the armor slots and you have a vast amount of elemental resistance!... But yeah I almost never cast it offensively since it usually cures the enemy
On the topic of Unicorn, Unicorn basically just jumped franchises. It appeared in Chrono Cross as a Light element summon that did essentially exactly what it did in FF, heal the party. Just thought I'd throw that tidbit of knowledge out there.
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"Devil Thomas" that is amazing. Ty
I never once thought for a second that doomttain was strange, I just accepted it along with many questionable ffviii bit (T-Rex in the school's garden).. but you are right, that is a little unconventional 🤭
Alex being a castle ppl live in..I thought was weird.
Whyt was more than just a cameo in ffbe, it was a full blown relevant story character and there was a whole village of them actually. It taught the main characters how to polymorph (which was a full on story point) versus becoming an esper you could summon due to lacking combat abilities. But it just kept showing up in the second and third story chapters. Though the four chapter is set in a place that’s hard to get to physically so chances are it won’t show up again.
My favorite summons are actually the Bravely Default ones.
They're mythicized real-life objects, since the real world of the player is a dimension that's in contact with the game world.
The fire summon is a train
The wind summon is a plane
The earth summon is a city
The water summon is a griefing woman
The lightning summon is a clockwork/tv-station
The dark summon is a telephone pole (that gets used like a sword)
The final light summon is uh... just straight up Amaterasu.
There's also one that's a battle ship.
The Fire Summon is my favorite, the fire train is so cool
For me, the Ark fought in Oilvert is the same as the summon but weak because his homeland Terra is dying
but when he has the full Pumice he regains his strengh being able to transform and perform Eternal Darkness
Great theory! Plus I'd imagine he gains more strength through Garnet's magical abilities as a summon beast (vs. just a guardian for the Gulug Stone)
Eggman also made a cameo in Chocobo Racing (PS1), specifically in the ending credits. During a short segment of the ending movie, the Black Magician (black mage) morphs into Eggman along with other creatures from the FF universe. A very obscure reference for western gamers, but probably another nostalgia bomb for Japanese players.
I’m surprised you didn’t mention the unicorn mount in ff14 and that only lvl 30 conjurers (pre white mage class) were the only ones to get it.
Also I think phantom train from Sigmascape could be a reference to doom train
The phantom train is just the phantom train from ff6 not ff8
Unicorn also makes an appearance in FF14 as a unlockable mount for completing an optional quest that only becomes available upon hitting level 30 Conjuror/White Mage
ok, this channel always has EXCELLENT stuff on board. I need them to have more subscribers. the research and depth in these videos is amazing.
In FFXIV Unicorn is a mount specifically tied to the white mage job quest.
Went down the comments to see if anyone mentioned this. It's the only mount that's tied to leveling a job.
@@kikiohearts Yo, that's awesome!
I almost feel bad for not bothering with the job now, lol
I love it when you can play as the summon. Like in 10 and 12. I’m not a fan of single attacks like 7 and 9
You'll have loads of fun in FF16 then :)
I wound up liking both because of 15. I mean seeing Summons be stories tall pick you up and launch a terrain altering attack sorta did things for me.
Would that work with doomtrain? Lolol
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Doomtrain is clearly the best summon ever they should bring it back
He's ridiculously overpowered. Absolutely loved Doomtrain.
Doomtrain was such a pain to unlock but it was so good!
My favorite GF in FF8
@matt You had to get the Solomon Ring (I think it was at Tears Point?), and use the Occult Fan magazines to find hints on the items you need in your inventory to use the ring and get Doomtrain (6 steel pipes, 6 Remedy+, and 6 Marlboro tentacles).
@@hanniballahr94 True, but the thing with FF8 is, thanks to Triple Triad and GF abilities, getting items is too easy. All that was needed was the Solomon Ring from Tear's point.
Im half convinced that Doomtrain is partly based on Blaine the Mono from the Dark Tower series. Just check out the cover art for the Wastelands
Blaine is a pain and that is the truth.
This explains why white mage gets a unicorn mount at lvl 50
Doomtrain!!! One of my favorite GF in FFVIII thanks to the meltdown effect status.
Huh, I’m surprised they didn’t mention that Unicorn also appears in FFXIV as a mount obtainable in Gridania after hitting level 30 on conjurer.
I distinctly remember Kujata for having a very strange folkloric origin. Kujata originates from Arabic folklore, said to be the cosmic bull that stands atop the back of Bahamut (who is actually a whale or fish, the dragon form came from DnD). Kujata possesses 40,000 horns, legs, eyes, ears, mouths and tongues, and his breathing is the tides itself. On Kujata’s back stands a mountain made of ruby, and upon that stands an angel, who is carrying the world itself.
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Unicorn does feature in FFXIV - as a mount only obtainable by White Mages. If you want to get technical, mounts in 14 ARE "summoned."
It's also very pretty, and among my favorite mounts, naturally!
I remember Kujata. The ONLY task I didn't accomplish in FFVII was to defeat Ruby and Emerald weapons. Other than that....maxed out!
I had Doom Train as well. Used it a lot. I maxed out FFVIII, too. One of my passions as a youth and boy was I hooked, especially RPG's.
I do miss Valefor and Anima from FFX!
I also do think the versions of summons in FFX12/13 were so f****** cool!
What about ixion?
@@pancakeeater6940 I loved them too, but at least he was referenced in FF15 by being the head of Ramuh's staff
Kujata was also on FFXV as a huge moose-like monster that likes to rollover you.
Doomtrain needs to return!!! Sorry to hear you’ve been poorly Darryl. Get well soon!!!
You don't cease to amaze me. All these years and I never heard of this eggman summon or that Unicorn was in V.
FFVI has a lot of obscure summons which I would like to see again like Lakshmi, Phantom, Seraph, Valigarmanda (but I guess Quezacolt from VIII is a successor of sorts )
Lakshmi is in FF14.
@@linesthatinterlace You got me, I haven't played FFXIV, but it's nice to hear that
Lakshmi/Chadarnook is also in XV, in a sidequest that's a pretty direct reference to the boss fight in VI.
@@Forever_Zero also Seraph is also in FF14... Well, kinda...
Eggman for Final fantasy 16.
Anima (X)is still my favorite summon of all time. She’s so freaky looking, hope she comes back one day.
Doom train was a really good summon in final fantasy 8. He was definitely useful in the last area in the game.
I just did the Alexander raid last night in FFXIV with my girl, and was gushing over to her how Cruise Chaser was both a reference to Ark and an older Squaresoft game.
Bought it as a mount in a recent sale. Still a bit steep price wise for a mount, even when reduced, but how could I not be hyped about having my own Ark that transforms between mech and airship forms? Even my tiny little yellow fluffed lala self looks cool riding on that thing.
Doom train did have a counter part in Hades from 7, in that it primarily did status ailments.
Thanks for the upload during my September 2022 birthday long weekend! Birthday was on Saturday and I had a free Original Grand Slam breakfast at Denny's, then had Greek food and a pumpkin spice ice cream sandwich last night with the family. Now I can relax for my other birthday rewards.
Not even Sabin could suplex the doomtrain(aka Devil Thomas LOL). One of the cooler summons in the series.
Huh! So, in Record Keeper, there's a tier of relics called "Limit Break Guardians", which gives certain characters an FFX-style summon, with its stats being determined by how many limit bars are spent when summoning it. Quistis's Limit Guardian is Doomtrain, naturally, since the game kits her primarily as a poison-element mage, but in its info screen, there are some fields where the name is Glasya Labolas instead. I never understood why until watching this video!
I always liked FF8 Siren. She was very pretty and her ability to silence foes was great. She was definitely a good early summons for me in the game.
I don't remember "Kujata" being spelled that way. I vividly remember it being "Kjata" with no U in the spelling. Yet another Mandela Effect I have with this game... it's honestly starting to freak me out because even though I haven't played the original FFVII in years, I played it enough back in the day to know it like the back of my hand. I even still have my off brand memory card with my 100% complete save file on it (aside from the final battle with Sephiroth, that's all that's left to do on that save file). I really need to play the game start to finish again to see what else has changed..
same, it could also be a regional spelling
It was Kjata in the PSX release, and was fixed in all subsequent releases.
@@PowerPandaMods Yes. Kjata was a mistranslation, similar to Aeris.
Like Aeris being corrected back to Aerith, Kjata was corrected back to Kujata later.
The PSX translation of VII was only used for the PSX release of the game. Every subsequent release used the PC translation, so that spelling would have suffered the same fate as "This guy are sick."
The creepiest Esper gotta be Cuchulainn, a secret boss in the amazing FF XII, one of 8 optional Esper to find.
He was creepy as hell as a one of the Lucavi in FF Tactics.
I remember in my ff7 and 8 playthrough, I never used summons exp for kotr while in ff8 I used them almost every battle
7:47 Ark will forever be my favorite summon. i beat ff9 thanks to it. at the last fight, the only one surviving an attack was garnet, she got into trance and started summoning ark indefinetly. thanks to an ability from her, the full summon animation (over 1 min) played every time... she also had a passive ability of auto healing a small amount....
so over like 15min she just summoned her way to victory while healing to full every time
So glad to see Ark (Cruise Chaser) on here.
The second I saw Ark, I knew I was meant to use it forever, lol.
He's just so damn cool
I hadn't seen Revenant Wings mentioned all that much.
That's cool.
I had completely forgotten about Whyt (and that was such a mystery to me I pretty much ignored it, it was just weird enough).
Doom Train, good memories!
Also, I think that 7 (well going off vague memories) had a chocoMog summon. Pretty much would run over your enemy and leave. Not seen it since, far I know.
I played the Whyt minigames but never really used Whyt in battle. It never crossed my mind to use him in fights.
Choco/Mog also had a second potential attack, where it just drops a Fat Chocobo on the enemy. But it's basically just VII's version of a Chocobo summon, which has appeared in many other games. They also return for VII Remake, but Choco/Mog and Fat Chocobo are now separate materia.
@@gorimbaud Ah, right. Never saw it much, so it made me laugh :) Thank you for jogging my memory.
Now that Square owns Taito's game catalogue, they should have Bub and Bob from Bubble Bobble as a summon. They could appear, spray the field of battle with bubbles and turn any defeated enemy into foid.
I hear Eggman, I immediately think “I am the Eggman, I am the Walrus, goo goo gachu.”
Fun Fact: In the original Kingdom Hearts game, Sora was supposed to be able Behamut. This was either a scrapped idea or a placeholder as it is still the game's code. Attempting to use it will crash the game since it is trying load a model that does not exist.
When you defeat Ark in Oeilvert, it relinquishes only a Pumice Piece. Maybe it could not transform because it did not have access to its full power, only when summoned with the full Pumice.
Excellent video! I didn't know you can summon the egg in FF5. I know it is unused graphics that is there in all incarnations - SNES, GBA, PC.
Probably you should call this "10 most ...". The first thing that comes in my mind is Eden from FF8 - very very long animation with limit break; Yojimbo from FF10
The Ghost Train is very similar to the demon train from the movie Species.
The train was in the move for like 5 secs but it's similar in design.
These videos get me through the day. It's always stuff I want to know but think no one does too.
Eggman and Ramih were good ones! Other obscure ones I'd have liked to see are: Asura (FF4), Tritoch (FF6), Hades (FF7), Quezacotl (FF8), Brynhildr (FF13) and Hecatoncheir (FF13)
Hades was epic when I first saw it
@@franimal86 same, I wasn't ready for that one when I first picked it up.
Asura I think is a boss in IV. That's hardly obscure.
@@s-wo8781 Neither is Hecatoncheir but the FF XIII summons are part of the story so. I think a lot of people think of obscure as not used much and it seems semi not know but not "impossible". Also people in general think their rare finds are obscure. Doom train is not that unknown.
@@s-wo8781 The boss fight against Godo in the Wutai Tower from VII was a direct reference to Asura, too.
Kujata was also in 11 in spirit, being the name of one of the servers.
Hey there was nothing wrong with your voice it was pleasant to hear you honest didn't notice you were ill, thank you for the info it was fun!
When you said Eggman for the first summon I had to check the date to make sure this wasn't April Fools list
5:39 Or maybe... the Unicorn mount for WHM in FFXIV? Since that job uses Holy spells in combat and you must be a WHM in order to accept the quest to get..... Unicorn?
I always felt that FF12's espers were really unique but also very different in terms of how they looked. Some had very clear designs as to what they were, but a majority of them were almost on a biblical-angel kind of level where they may have actually lacked a face or were part of some kind of set-piece. They were just strange looking overall.
Yes to me they were bio-organic. Many of them had a mix of biological creations grafted with technology by the gods
Been playing FF for decades, never knew about Egg man 😳
just to add on, Unicorn DID appear in FFXIV. it's a mount that you can get ONLY as a White Mage, where a quest open up at level 30 or something (cant remember too clearly). So yeah it is still related to the holy element, since it is linked to WHM.
Every time a new FF releases, I'm hoping for Doomtrain to return.
Nice of you to feature Whyt, though I would have loved it if you'd mentioned Asura, as she appeared in FF4, as well.
Sylph, Mage, Bomb, Cockatrice ... ASURA !!!!
the 3 most obscure summons in Final Fantasy series
(FF IV summons)
mentions : Palidor in Final Fantasy 6
And the ODIN of Final Fantasy 4, who was Baron's boss form... amazing old school ones too
Loved the video! Summoners are always my favorit classes in these games. So many of them with complex stories. I wish they would expand on some of their origins. They sure are interesting.
Ark = Dark summon
FF 12's theme = Zodiac
Dark Summon in FF12 = Zodiark
I think quetzacol, Pandemona, Madeen, Golem, and even knights of the round were missed
What is obscure about KOTR?
Doomtrain in italian became 'Kharonte' (Charon)
I'm surprised he didn't add the Magus Sisters part of this lineup
All of Final Fantasy 15's summon's should be on this list on the grounds it's near impossible to even pull one off.
I came to say something similar…😢
I sincerely didn’t even really notice your voice being sicky until you mentioned it, so don’t worry too much, it sounded great as always
I remember a random drop in Final Fantasy IV, Goblin, I think. I remember farming for it in the Cave of Mists, before fighting the mist dragon/killing Rydia's mother.
As always, fantastic video, I will continue watching, I love your videos. If I may make a suggestion, please show all the summons actions while explaining. Ie, we never got to see what whyt’s summon action was. Without a doubt not a criticism, but a mere suggestion. Thank you so much!
I think FF7 Hades Summon was also pretty special, never saw him in a other game
In final fantasy 9 hades is a black smith summon.
It is also in FF14
In Final Fantasy XIV, the class Conjurer has a class specific mount called Unicorn and although Conjurer eventually turns into the White Mage, I think the name "Conjurer" more evokes imagery of a Summoner and might be a tip of the hat to the origins in FF... or maybe I'm just reaching for something that isn't there. 🤣
Shout out to many of the FF4 Summons where you had to obtain them via item %drop.
Kjata wasn't just Fire/Ice/Lightning, he was also Earth. Which was another big problem, since nothing in that game was weak to earth, and anything that flew was immune to it (and thus the attack). The three-element Kujata (now with a u) was in FF7 Rebirth, since they make Quake into a non-elemental spell in that game.
Doomtrain was awesome and needs too come back
I'm surprised that Anima and Typhon (ff7) is not included, Anima kind of remind of Typhon in FF7 due to its back to back head.
I watch all your videos even if I’m not interested in the topic because I want to support your channel. No one covers FF content like you.
When I saw the title of the video I immediately thought Doomtrain 😂
13:34 small note, it is NOT 6 or more Remedy, it is 6 or more Remedy +
Must use Alexander's Med Lv Up ability to access said items.
this makes me think that the whole story of 9 is connected to Alexander in 14
Ramih instantly reminded me of the Security Eye monsters from FF4.
My favorite summon is Final Fantasy VI - Valigarmanda and it is a beautiful, mysterious, crazy elemental bird that throws out three major elements everywhere at once. So, Final Fantasy VI had is fair share of interesting list of summons, hence Final Fantasy VIII had is share of summons too. Over all, I do enjoy the unique idea of having powerful beings helping you save the world from certain chaos AND they either place you under a trial OR try to kill you for being a false God.
Good commentary on classic games as usual.
Okay that "Devil Thomas" thing has me laughing pretty hard, that's nuts.
I actually think Diablos is one of the most interesting summons in the series, because to me it is kind of figuratively and literally the gateway to playing Final Fantasy 8 for real, to really exploring what was possible with the game systems, Triple Triad, etc. All of that depends on the player's choice to mess around with this weird optional item that is weirdly dropped into your inventory very early on, and which at first blush might seem "too hard, not supposed to do this now"... of course if you know how the game works, you would also know that that is an impossibility, and it will only get stronger as you do : D
Very neat info on these summons! Hope you're feeling better
RE: Doomtrain: Not Remedies. Remedy+'s. That means you had to feed the Alexander GF AP for two skills to get med-lvl-up, which allows you to refine 60 Remedy's into 6 Remedy+.
Thank you for this!! I'm amazed at how many of these I had never heard of before... really fascinating!!