First CVT Transmission? Here's What to Expect.
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- First CVT Transmission? Here's What to Expect.
If you're in the market for a new vehicle with a Continually Variable Transmission (CVT), and you're not sure what to expect, then you're in the right place!
In this video, Justin explains what drivers can expect from the driver's seat, and demonstrates the operation of several popular CVT transmissions in 2019 model cars, including the Subaru Impreza, Honda Civic, Nissan Altima and Infiniti QX50.
Each transmission is demonstrated in various conditions, to help first-time drivers understand what to expect, and how the CVT responds.
Presented by Justin Pritchard for www.autotrader.ca.
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What you missed to say that CVTs require more maintenance that includes more frequent gear oil changes and those CVT fluids are extremely expensive too.
I own a Nissan with CVT and love it BUT I do more than regular maintenance on the engine and transmission. Castrol now makes a crossover quality CVT fluid that is a fraction of the cost of Nissan NS2 and 3 so the cost to DIY has come down considerably.
This is the best explanation of CVT that I have come across on TH-cam so far. Thanks a lot.
Thank you for explaining this like it's ok to own one. The first video that doesn't tell me I'm doomed and will have to replace the transmission.
It really depends on who makes it there are some car manufactures that are notorious for having issues with their CVTs and others that are real reliable Toyota‘s been using CVTs in the Corolla since around 2013. Honda has successfully used them in some of their vehicles as well. Toyota had some issues but corrected it pretty quickly because they make their own engines and transmissions. Nissan on the other hand unfortunately has had tons of issues with their CVTs. The biggest problem is if you have a CVT failure they cannot just go in and repair individual components like a regular gear transmission the entire transmission normally has to be replaced.
They awful to drive .... lag ....
@@craigroyle860 not at all. Unless you are drag racing.
@@craigroyle860 I can confirm they are just awful to drive. The lag on acceleration and are generally frustrating.
@@revilsdr Nissan and Mitsubishi both get their CVT's from JATCO. JATCO provides the transmission hardware itself. But Nissan and Mitsu themselves make the final decision on the software (how the CVT behaves) and the peripherals e.g. CVT fluid pan, CVT remote cooler, etc etc.
Unfortunately, both Nissan and Mitsubishi are stingy on pairing a properly sized remote cooler for the CVT fluid, esp on the base trims (no cooler at all). This leads to easy over-heat. For DIY'ers in-the-know, adding remote cooler (multiples of them) is a common mod. You'd want to keep your transmission at 185F, ideally in the 165~185F range during hottest summer). Above 210F starts to get risky for metal fatigue.
For "lag" in the acceleration, that has to do with the CVT programming. If the Nissan/Mitsu car is equipped with paddle shifter or "auto stick" mode, the driver can set/keep the CVT in one particular gear ratio and accelerate through the power band, upshifting just a hair before redline. This gives the car a very nice & sporty response.
CVT's do need to get their fluid AND filter changed religiously. The CVT seems less forgiving than traditional auto transmissions against lazy maintenance.
With the proper setup, CVT's can be competitive. I take my CVT (naturally aspirated) into autocross, and have beat a few turbo-charged FWD & AWD's sporting traditional auto transmission. I know folks that add aftermarket turbo to their CVT cars and takes it to the track regularly, also being competitive in their group. Again, most of it has to do with 1) sufficient cooling, 2) some way to dictate your gear ratio / shift point, 3) regular maintenance - fluid/filter changes.
When you floored it in the Altima, I started sweating.
Lmao
Many people don't trust their Jatco CVT's. Aisin makes much more reliable and durable auto transmissions, both CVT and 'conventional geared'.
@@AudiophileTubes I just bought a Nissan Versa with the CVT. But I also purchase the extended warranty for a hundred thousand miles or 10 years so I'm covered. My shift cable needs adjustment that's the only problem I have
@@josephmac2386 That's great, but if Nissan really believed in their vehicles, they would offer that kind of warranty as a standard feature with buying their cars/SUVs/trucks! Just like Kia, Mitsubishi, etc. That said, I hope their CVT's have gotten more reliable and better engineered for longevity.
@@josephmac2386 Your power train is warranted for 60,000 miles, so your extra warranty gives you only 40,000 miles more protection. You wrote this two years ago. How is your Versa doing? (I have a Kicks 1 year and 4 months old, which is why I ask.)
Most people with broken nissan CVT transmissions never change the transmission oil as advised by Nissan. Try doing that for a change
Most? How about the other LARGE % who are uninformed and purchased this pile of f dog…..
Definitely one of the best explanations I've heard on the CVT. Great Job!
Well done! I was introduced to the CVT in a new 2007 Altima SL. I put 148,000 trouble-free miles on it and ended up selling it to the family across the street. They have put an additional 25,000 trouble-free miles on it. I loved the quality of that car so much that I was determined that my upgrade would also have a CTV. I found a new 2017 Nissan Maxima with beefed up CVT to handle its 300HP. This car has been flawless also and gets amazing gas mileage under all conditions. I average 27.5 mpg since new with combination 60% city and 40% interstate. My best MPG was 37.5 MPG on a trip between Ohio and Florida; slightly lower on the way back to Ohio "uphill". I will stay with CVT's as long as they make 'em. Highly satisfied.
The new maxima drives sooooo good!
Do you actually keep up with the fluid changes? In my experience, Nissan tend to be ticking time bombs.
I have 177k miles on my 2016 Maxima, no issues and still feels great. 80% highway 20%city and lots of transmission fluid changes but I’d rather pay $120 bucks every 25-30k miles for trans fluid change (I’ve used valvoline) than to buy a whole new transmission.
@@Uberican718 still running ?
I’ll never touch a Nissan CVT again… nightmare for me and hundreds of thousands of others. Maybe you got a lucky one.
Super simple explanation. I just got a civic with the 2.0l engine and it’s so smooth
Thank you, these other explanations were so confusing but i like this one 1+ sub:)
Superb explanation! Got to be the best one online on the CVT, thank you.
The only thing I don't like about CVT's is the lag you get when you first push on the gas.
Same here, I thought something was wrong with the car until I saw other people with CVT's mention that it's normal.
@@Flashcard_Games Before I ever owned one, I wondered why so many people at red lights would let go of the brake and sit there for a second when it turned green. lol
This comment just relieved me of so much anxiety I had with my new car. Thank you. I thought something was wrong.
Mine don’t do that, weird
Yeah it sucks, u just push and car moving toooo fon slow , driving me crazy
Easily the best explanation I have seen on youtube 👌👍 thank you!!
BEST VIDEO ON THIS SUBJECT ON Y/T! THANKS FOR PRODUCING IT. CHEERS!
You all are so good at introducing cars to consumers. Great car review channel!
Thank you so much! 👍
After having a car with a CVT transmission, I like it. My understanding is that the CVT transmission cannot take as much abuse as a regular transmission, in another words, the CVT does not suffer fools and idiots.
What kind of nissan do you have? Or if you still have it, and how long you had it?
dakentaijutsu2010 I have a Nissan Altima sv 2013 with 190,000 miles. Cvt with 4 cylinder. It still runs like a dream, and shifts very smooth. One thing I can say is that I’ve never floored it, and I change the fluid every 30,000 miles. While it’s a slower car, I actually don’t mind it, because it’s relaxing.
@@ehh2681 well, a cvt is intended to create a smooth drive, not a spirited drive. xd.
Great video. Best explanation I have seen. Makes more sense now. Thanks.
Just wanna say THANK YOU for clear info and examples. Brilliant
Very good video, clear and concise explanation. Thank you. (Not a bot just impressed by the actually informative video with no fluff lol)
Although I'm sure this will be continually improved and become the new standard, it's kinda funny when you think about the fact that this tech is what's been used in 50cc scooters for a long time.
Speed reducer boxes on large electric motors with that same basic technology has been around longer.
@@rayford21 Yeah, but it's still funny to think that the CVT kinda failed a lot as a concept that anyone would buy a car based on, with reliability and performance issues being the main concern, while the small motor vehicles like mopeds for example adapted CVT very well. And now, although more sophisticated and improved, it has made it's way back into the car market.
It's more about cheapening out EVERYTHING, they are garbage
@@IceyGuy Reason being is car manufacturers are being pressured to increase the fuel economy on their vehicles.
@@liamwelsh5565 a proper CVT would actuelly be more fuel efficient though. wouldn't be as 'fun' to drive, but with a very silent engine, I imagine it's perfectly driveable.
Great video! I love the CVT in my 2016 Outback. It's smooth, gives the big 3.6L good fuel economy, I couldn't be happier with the performance of it. Who knows how well it will hold up with age but I plan on driving the car into the ground, fingers crossed. I had a 2007 Forester before this with a regular 4 spd automatic. Poor fuel economy, sloppy shifts with kicking and slipping between gears.
I have a 2015 Outback that I’ve had for a year and it’s my first cvt. It’s still weird to me, I’m just not used to it.
I like to think of CVTs as diesel-electric locomotives or planes. The driver/conductor/pilot demands a certain power level (acceleration), the engine revs to- and stays at the point where it can supply that power, and the transmission does the rest > the vehicle accelerates smooth and continuously. Once you get used to it, it's actually kinda cool.
Thank you for this awesome video. Makes so much sense to me now
Recently bought a new Subaru WRX with CVT, it feels much better than the 2013 CVT outback I bought new then…obviously, they are getting better as the technology advances….I have no real issues with the new one, it’s great fun to drive through the twisties and I can keep both hands on the steering wheel for much better control and it just seems to do whatever is required as far as ratios go at any given point. 😎
Thanks man. Good explanation. Everybody else trying to explain this were using markers and white boards and crap.
Glad it helped!
I have 150,000 on my 2015 Honda CR-V. So far...so good. I do the recommended oil changes on my CVT transmission. The good news is it is easy to change the CVT oil yourself. The Honda CVT oil is $10.00 a quart...but like I say you can change it yourself.
Just put a deposit on a Mitsubishi 2019 RVR , 40,000 k having anxiety as so many people complaining about cvt problems. Your video was helpful to understand how to drive it.
Get rid of it when it's nearly out of warranty.
Its not like automatic, just be gentle with iy
Loving it so far.
i just got a 22 impreza cvt... i love it so far.
Good video. My 2016 Subaru Forrester is a much better CVT experience than my 2012 Subaru Forrester was.
This video did not mention the cvt lag from a stop and also when in reverse. In addition, significant roll back on an incline from a stop compare to a standard geared automatic.
Finally a good explanation. Thank you!!!
Glad you liked it!!
Im looking at honda jazz cvt automatic and this has helped me so much to explain what cvt was, thanks
People don't like it because of engine sound but it's really good in everyday use
Cvt is pure shit especially for Nissan altima
What to expect: a big repair bill when that crap breaks.
Especially on those Nissan CVTs they are notorious pieces of junk
100k miles on my 2017 altima
Kiss my ass
And i still beat any camry which cost more in my place 🤣
@@NudlezGaming_50 u put that many miles in 3 years? parents own a 2012 altima still going strong at 200 thousand km
@@Libunaop i live in middle east
And the altima i have is from the USA
I bought it in 2018 with 60k miles on it
But its still the best car i have driven
Between that or sonata or camry or optima
I'm sure the mazda will be the best out of them but i like my altima more 🤷🏻♂️
Maintenance is key. Lots of people skip it. Not advised.
I have a 19' toyota corolla hatchback with the CVT. hoping the toyota cvt lasts me a good while. have put almost 10k on it and no issues so far. Good thing is the hatchback has a normal 1st gear then switches over to the cvt 2nd gear and on.
Very helpful video. Thanks.
Change your CVT fluid every 20k miles. Do beyond the recommended. It will last a lot longer. It is that simple! Explains why many people are having them fail. DUH!!
Hell some people NEVER change their trans fluid.
Yes, trans oil and engine oil cheap - repair cost not
Its recommended every 50k
Aghiad Baik change it below 30k. Doesn’t matter wtf the auto makers nor the dealer says, they aren’t chemical engineers and they do not understand how the oil breaks down at a molecular level. ALL... oils break down at the 30,000 mile mark. See it for yourself, change the fluid at 50,000 miles and take a jar to look at the color of the fluid. If it’s a Nissan then the fluid will be black to slightly brown color (the original Nissan ns3 cvt fluid is blue), however if you do this at 30,000 miles, it should be a light see through brown showing minimal fluid deterioration. This is extremely important for so many reasons, mainly due to proper heat transfer.
I brought my car it at 70000 miles and the said they wouldn’t change my fluid till at least 100,000 miles
Our 2011 Nissan Quest has 119k on the CVT. Zero problems so far. I kept it serviced every 30k.
Great vid 👍
Got a 2009 / 100k miles Altima bought it brand new and so far not a problem. It’s all depends on how you drive and how you take care of your car.
I've always wanted to get a birds-eye view of the people who have trashed these CVTS at 60k miles: my 2016 Nissan is at 79k and it runs great, I'm happy with my car. The problem is we don't really know WHY these CVTs fail, but my theory is its accelerating too quickly and not giving the transmission enough time to move through the pulley system, which of course will stress the system out more. So I keep my revving below 4k RPMs in most situations, except when I have to get into traffic that moving quickly all around me, which is rare in my area. Don't drive like a crackhead: your car will last longer.
Chris Ducat Exactly. My Altima is coming up on 104K miles and not a single problem.
Amen!
The reason these CVT’s fail is because people don’t change their fluid frequently enough especially when they live in hot climates.
Thank you for this explanation. I was dreading purchasing a CVT transmission car as all the reviews I have read made me be scared of CVT. It's good to hear and read something positive about the CVT. I just recently purchased a 2011 nissan altima with CVT transmission and honestly, I love it around curves, elevation and going down hill. I guess I just have to get used to the noise of which that doesn't bother me.
Only issue with the CVT is the engine drone. And I bet mostof those negative reviews are Nissan drivers snce Nissan has a reputation for horrible CVTs, which was why Nissan fanboys cheered when the Pathfinder came back with a 9-speed Auto.
How has the car been? I’m due to pick up mine tomorrow same year and make.
@@toyotagazooracer4455 wish I knew about this type of transmission before I bought my 2023 Nissan kicks. I hate the way it runs. It’s not smooth at all. Brought it back to the dealer because I thought there was something wrong with it since the car I traded in, which was 13 years old, ran smoother than this new one. Of course they said nothing was wrong with it. That said, I did not realize that this car had a different type of transmission. I know now. 😢
Very nice and informative video.
Thank you so much for this very simple analogy yet very educational.
I really was supprized in my new Elantra with the IVT it is smooth as can be and I really like it.
My 2020 Kia Soul has an IVT (Intelligent Variable Transmission) and one benefit I’ve noticed is that the IVT doesn’t search for gears when accelerating up hill because it doesn’t have any. Smooth and quiet. I don’t understand all the hate for CVT. I’m enjoying my car. Great video!
Thanks for feedback!
Sure its a bigger bill. But if you keep the fluid changed, it has less moving parts then a traditional transmission.
Don't ever floor the accelerator. You have to get used to driving at a slower pace to reach highway speed.
Change the Transmission fluid every 30,000 miles.
I floor mine sometimes but change the CVT fluid every 25,000 kilometers (that's also what the owners manual says).
Y cant I floor it? Isnt it just an automatic transmission?
Ordered my '23 Subaru OBW. Hope all goes well.
Great Video💯
This is a very good description of how cvts work. I have driven several CVT transmissions and hated them all for that step process you talked about or pretend step process Pretender gearing. I wish they would just have one smooth linear travel since thre pretend gearing feels like the clutch slipping and that just feels cheap.
Agreed CVT feeling is like pulling a rubber band, no sense of torque at all.
My 2014 Subaru Outback CVT is very smooth. I do notice when I reach a speed (I.E. 40 mph) I hold the accelerator steady and notice the speed of the car increases as the RPM reduces. If i want to maintain 40 MPH, I ease off the accelerator as the car holds the MPH as the RPM drops. The best fuel economy ride was 68 MPH at 1500 RPM attaining between 32-34 MPG .
The first time I drove a CVT car was when I didn't even know it was CVT. I realised it quickly though, when I noticed that flooring the pedal had the car sitting at almost 6000RPM constant, no gear change, yet increasing in speed. It's really weird and surreal when you're used to old fashioned transmissions.
2016 Honda driver here. I’ve come to like the CVT. I enjoy the smoothness when compared to our other car which is a Mazda with a 6 speed auto.
Thank you for this explanation. I've hear nothing but negative views on CVT. I'm buying a 2021 Rogue, my first vehicle with CVT.
It’s less reliable than a standard auto in general, and Nissan makes one of the worst CVTs on the market right now.
Nissan Cvt is not reliable,stay away from Nissan CVT.
@@EpicDrew15 better hope so, Nissan really needs to nail it’s next gen vehicles hard to gain momentum again after 2 rough years, I do appreciate the pathfinder being a 9 speed auto this time instead of the cvt transmission
Thank you can you give guidance tutorial about how to Maintain a cvt please
2014 Altima. 1st new car I have ever bought for myself. Loved the car, fuel mileage very good. 5 years, just paid off, and 1 1/2 month out of warranty. CVT failed at 35,000. Nissan did fix it for free. Class action lawsuit being settled right now adding 2 years to warranty. Thing is I no longer trust the car. Looking at Mazda6 maybe. Like a stick again, but even if automatic. I want gears. Never again Nissan.
Sorry to hear that
My altima got 100k miles on it and still runs like a champ
@@NudlezGaming_50 you're getting close just push it a little longer until failure
@@speedyme200 meh it wont
If u treat your car right it wont happen
Beside nissan and Toyota are the best cars in the mid east
People buy KIA here and the transmission starts to shift late and lag
German cars are expensive and they overheat
Amarican muscles are great but they need great fuel that its expensive here
Lets say that my altima CVT belt will fail
There are spare parts
The fucking CVT is for 800$ i dont know if thats expensive or not but still for a transmission 800$
The only cars i love more are the mazda 6 and the toyota avalon
Rick T I have the same problem with Nissan Versa Note 2015. Nissan Canada - terrible service, refused to pay for their defective part. It was dangerous too when it failed. Never again with Nissan.
Mazda 6, do it. Japanese luxury and reliability.
Thank you! I just bought my first cvt....
Good choice!
I have a 2019 Outback with the 6cyl engine. It has a Subaru "high torque" CVT. I have not yet seen 4,000 rpm's on my tach, and I have 11,000 miles on the car. Guess how long my CVT will last !! I'm 66....so I guessing they'll bury me in it.
I wish you were right.
I, for one, hope you _don't_ crash your car, lest that statement gets taken too literally.
Great cvt video. I like how you say each cvt can act different. My 2017 Mitsubishi Mirage G4 SE CVT does not have the fake stepped shifts, when you floor it it builds until it gets to around 5,500 to 6,000 rpm and holds it there. It is an odd feeling when first going to a cvt but this is my second Mirage cvt as I had a 2015 now and I am used to it along with its shift into neutral while at a stop. It would feel odd for me to drive an automatic that shifts now lol.
My 2010 Kia Soul Exclaim had a 4 speed auto and my 2013 Hyundai Elantra had a 6 speed auto. Now having a cvt I much prefer it and they really do improve mpg by quite a bit. The main thing with cvts are maintenance and having the cvt fluid flushed and changed at recommended intervals. My Mirage G4 will be done at the 3 year or 30,000 mile mark to be safe.
I can say I had no issues with my 2015 Mitsubishi Mirage Hatchback cvt the 2 years I owned it. Nor have we had any with our 2016 Mitsubishi Outlander Sport GT AWC cvt in the almost 3 years we have owned it. Nor have we had any issues with my 2017 Mitsubishi Mirage G4 SE cvt in the 2.5 years I have owned it. You do feel the Mirages cvt more than our Outlander Sports cvt due to it being a smaller and less refined car but that does not mean its any less reliable it has been an awesome car and I will buy a 3rd Mirage in the future!
Thanks agin for this cvt video was so awesome someone took the time to do it!
Completely agree. Our 2 CVT Mirages have been very reliable. Mitsubishi and Suzuki dont exhibit the same level of documented premature CVT failures with the JATCOs.
Thanks for this info.knowing that our mitsubishi mirage cvt is different from nissan(jatco).i hope mine will last.by the way,mine was bought last july 2016 and still using it.just change my fluid recently at 120,000 kilometer.before i also change at around 80,000 km.so i think a regular change of fluid can help my cvt to work well.so fo me now an interval of every 40000 km is ok.just regular check of fluid in its dipstick may give you peace of mind.i can say that my mirage works like a horse.it almost run 12 to 14 hours per day/4 days a week.
I have a 3 yr old Mitsubishi outlander sport that I bought new have serviced it every 30k like the book changed the filter at 90k and now it's already at 107,300 miles and I've never had a issue. Also coming from a standard automatic transmission to this , I prefer the CVT . It's a much more linear experience .
@@mhelboxtube You misunderstand. Mitsubishi uses the same JATCO CVT as Nissan. They just program it better and pair it off with more appropriate vehicles meaning cars with less torque and hp.
@@ItsSlim911 I like the Outlander Sport too. Its a proven design, I just wish the mpg was better.
My 2013 Altima has 131,000 miles and no troubles . I had fluid changed twice and I definitely don’t take off fast from stops .
When I got my 2018 Toyota Corolla I was pretty shocked at how the CVT felt compared to my 2008 Lexus IS 250 with an Automatic Transmission. With the Lexus you can feel the shifts very slightly. CVT not at all! I kinda was confused what to think about it first because I’m used to feeling the small shift changes. It’s interesting for sure but in a good way.
How you liking it now?
@@alvinsimba734good question...
Toyota and Honda makes the best CVT. In the case of Honda, for most situations you will even forget you are driving a CVT.
Captain Jack can you help me understand the purpose and point of a CVT Transmission. This is my first experience driving one and I really don't know what to expect from it 2016 Accord.
@@1yk1965 I would be skeptical of it from the get go even with Honda or Toyota. Cvts arent like the run of the mill automatic transmissions they've got issues and I'm more so concerned about how long they even hold up to begin with. For example I have a 2004 civic hybrid that has a honda CVT in it and the transmission is absolutely busted. When I drove it the car felt like a horse was bucking me and it would shake and shudder like crazy. People dont realize that the fluid on these transmissions need to be changed because it's not like a regular automatic. It's new itll have major issues and even though it may be newer I'm very skeptical because cars today are not built like how they were used to whatsoever. I'd love to see one of these CVTS reach up to 200 or 300k in mileage.
walter flores
The earlier CVT transmissions were pretty bad. The newer ones are improving. I’ve heard the 2016 Honda Civic with CVT has had no problems with its transmissions to date and some people have put close to 200k miles on it.
@@1yk1965 The main advantage a CVT has over a conventional one is efficiency. Its easy to see improvement in mpg if the identical with a conventional auto is swapped out to a cvt. However, it has this droning effect because it moves the engine to its 'sweet spot' during acceleration and keeps it there. This droning thing is what most buyers hate and as a result manufacturers have engineered fake shift points into its logic. I don't like the fake shifts because it messes up the constant power delivery cvt's are noted for. With a small turbocharged engine, you dont have to wait for a downshift or for the turbo to spool. In terms of reliability, Toyota and Honda are the safest places to go for anything automotive. I own a 2018 CRV with a cvt and a 2019 Accord with the 10sp trans. It is noticable when I switch cars, but after a few repeated trips in the CRV, it fades away and I completely forget that I am driving a CVT.
@@Brian-tt2qb The experience with those early CVT's are what drives the fear in most people. Those were optional on the Civic and at Fit and frankly, I didnt like them either. These new ones and way different.....and way better.
1998 Ford Ranger XL Automatic 5 gears with 300,233 miles, never a problem and yet hardly used.
Always heard Honda was a very reliable car so I bought a relative’s recently turned in leased 2017 HRV lx. Only 15,000 miles on it. After I bought it I joined an on line HRV Users group. Found out some owners had their CVT transmissions failing between 60,000 to 75,000 miles. Their advice change CTV oil every 20/30, 000 miles
Even it is Honda, the CVT might not be as reliable. Ask Scotty
Mine has 75k miles on it since it was purchased on 2015 and it is still working as intended. Honda CVTs are pretty reliable compared to other brands.
Mine blew at 130,000 miles. Honda extended cvt warranty. Saved me 8K.
I am curious of its effect on engine braking? I love engine braking and even my automatic BMW car I use it with the tiptronic. I like to decide when changing gears and when downshifting. In this case I could not do that. Will the car respond as fast and nervous like when I am downshifting manually? Will I have engine braking or does it feels like an automatic car in D-mode which almost does not have engine braking... Does it take the fun away if I try to drift in a corner?
Very well explained! I appreciate the smoothness and fuel efficiency of my Altima’s CVT, but I’m concerned about reliability. What can you tell me about it?
It varies I guess. I think the problem is that the amount of media coverage on the CVT has made it look like they are most notorious for their unreliability. However on a first person subjective basis, I've had a 2012 Nissan Quest for almost 9 years now. It has a CVT and I have put on 140000 km on it and have had no issues whatsoever.
@@ammarahmad5757 I have a 2007 Nissan Murano with over 210,000 miles and drive it like a TrackHawk and never changed the cvt fluid
Nissan, BMW, Jaguar and a few more that I can't think of all get their CVT's from the same company and they all are known for having problems. Honda and Toyota make their own CVT's and are much more reliable. Honda did have a hiccup in the 2013 and 2014 years but a recall was issued for the vehicles that were affected.
Hey I just bought a 2020 Hyundai Elantra and the cvt is really smooth and works great. No maintenance until 100k miles I believe. Thumbs up to Hyundai!
I have one too and the transmission is excellent (and warrantied for 10 years (for us ...we don’t drive much)
That car won’t last till 100k miles
No cvt will last 100k miles original fluid. It may reach 100k miles, but if you don’t change the cvt fluid every 30-40k miles you are exponentially more likely to have a failure shortly after 100k miles. Cvt’s quite simply cannot tolerate abuse or neglect.
In a CVT you can down the gear manually as a manual trans when you need to speed down in hill downs or "break" with engine?
Two yea plus and 49,000 miles so far smooth and like new Subaru 😁
Cvts won’t last more than 200k :(
@@cullenwilliams1695 I hope they do! Now I have 80,100 still running like new
Where did the right stereo track go?
Just got a 2020 Hyundai Elantra - its IVT (their brand name for their CVT with a chain belt) emulates the feel of an 8-speed conventional automatic. Compared to the previous car I drove (2018 Elantra), it's a bit peppier, AND gets better gas mileage. People get annoyed with the "rubber band" effect of CVTs, but the computer in this one is programmed to not do that. I'll go out on a limb and say that the newest CVTs have improved significantly over earlier models.
Same car here ..CVT is excellent
Yep, I had a venue and now an accent. Both have been great and as my first CVT cars I like them alot.
Also change that cvt fluid folks. Change it when the manual says, or just change it often if you are a do it yourselfer. I also recommend amsoil CVT fluid for most cars. But really, just get it changed, don't go 150,000 miles thinking you don't need to change your CVT fluid. Should be changing it roughly every 30k if you drive a Honda. I imagine most others will be around the same. If you have a Nissan I would do it more often, and definitely use amsoil.
What do you recommend for driving in winter with cvt? Especially if comes to hills that are snowy or icy.
No sports mode, traction controll on or off,...?
Is there some way to "disable" the magical gears? Is it some ECU program thing? Not asking if it's legal, just if it's at all possible. (Laws regarding this vary in different regions)
My Qashqai has like a little extra step on the gas pedal, it takes slightly more pressure to go past the threshold to floor it and get that fake gear behavior. If I don't go the extra step to fully floor it, am I getting less acceleration or is it doing the same as full throttle but without magical gears?
Is it good to put a CVT in neutral when stopped at a long red light?
Can you change the CVT into a manual like mode where you can actually shift it say with the gear switcher
Ya I have it
Some cars have ' paddles ' that allow a fake manual driving mode.
@@kkarllwt simulated manual sounds fun. Simulated automatic sounds pretentious
My 2014 Nissan Maxima is like that. Has a Sport Mode, simulates gear changes, also a manual Sport Mode, that allows you to shift, but it's only a simulation.
I see the fake step effect for the full throttle gear change, but is there an old skool step down button when you mash your pedal into the carpet from a steady cruising speed?
I ask as when watching the Rev counter when you accelerated from a cruising speed, the needle didn’t drop down like it would on a conventional automatic gearbox.
what do you guys think of the new model subaru CVT’s like 2018+
I hAVE A 2017 CROSSTREK..AT 65K NO PROBLEMS...JATCO (Nissan) HAS GIVEN CVT A DIRTY CONNONTATION.
92k on the wrx….feels as strong as new....pay off car soon and if it blows up ill swap in a 6 speed....love the car....car is stock has same trans as ascent... tr690
God Bless you very much for this video..
I'm thinking about buying a 2017 Toyota Corolla SE CVT? 🤔
New CVT driver here. Still trying to get used to not thinking the transmission is slipping when in all actuality it’s just mimicking conventional.
Rubber band feeling, I know that sucks.
I drive Subaru WRX CVT. And i have the same problems, Fun to drive though:)
You forgot the Mitsubishi Mirage. It has CVT and a 2 speed conventional transmission attached to it. That makes the CVT less "rubberband feeling".
That seems to be a new trend in cars that have CVTs. It started with cars that have hybrid powertrains but is beginning to spread to non-hybrids. Though I have only heard of cars that have 1 conventional gear, to get the car moving and not 2.
@@howardkerr8174 Well, it is the same planetary gear set any CVT needs for reverse only with a dual use now (low/high gear ratio). So, it does not require much more to have that 2 forward gears. It just starts of with 1st gear and CVT and at 50 mph it shifts to second (high) gear with CVT. Normally it stays there until you go very slow again.
Thinking of getting a 14 Subaru Impreza with CVT. How's the transmission? I heard the older Subies had issues with CVT.
Older Subarus had CVT issues before they started manufacturing their own in house. They are way more reliable than they were in the past
I often wondered if the new cvts that have the simulated shifting are slower or faster then the old cvts that would just hold the RPMs at the red line.
Maybe, but I doubt by much. You're only loosing about 1000 RPM for a second, every 5-6 seconds. So in a race from say 0-60, it probably wouldn't make a big difference.
2007 Nissan Altima 2.5s with 160,000 miles i dont know the car's history but we'll see what happens from here on out
Y’all help me my cvt trans shifts and I can feel it.. it’s a 19 Sentra sr with 37,070 miles I wouldn’t say it’s slipping but it’s just different I can hear it whining usually when downshifting and can feel it. Is this a issue or just a characteristic
I prefer a CVT transmission over a regular automatic I just like it more since it doesn't jerk the entire car while shifting gears and is less in the way, the only question I have is reliability. Lets say an 8speed 2021rav4 transmission vs a 2021 honda civic CVT what would last longer? Also lets say they both broke at 300k miles what is cheaper to buy new an 8speed automatic or the CVT >
It depends on the traditional auto gearbox. Some are smooth as butter, and some are jerky. Also, with practice, a modern manual transmission is extremely smooth.
I have a 2013 Honda Accord EXL.... I don't know if I have CVT or not but I feel the gears when I decelerate
Look for the transmission dipstick. If you can't find it, you have a CVT.
Just got a 2012 suburu Impreza cvt with 100k miles. Don’t know if the previous owners changed the transmission fluid. I also know that jatco has made a bad rap for cvt engines. Do you think I should worry about the car? I have no idea if suburu cvt are reliable
Despite popular beleif the subaru cvt is not made by jatco, they are built by subaru. My personal experience with my 15 outback bought new is zero tranmission problems so far, i just changed my cvt fluid at 115,000 mi tho i probably should have done it sooner. I do hwy driving almost exclusively only issue i have with the car is it does use a bit of oil.
Correction, the engine works harder with a cvt but it’s less abused because there is no jumping from high to low revs. But a cvt puts more pressure in the engine because it’s trying to be too efficient.
Yeah I hate how CVT’s drop the ratio too quickly unless you put the pedal to the floorboard. Bogging down the engine actually makes it LESS efficient.
is it normal for a cvt car to have that noticeable downshift feel everytime i remove my foot on the gas?
So why does honda cvt just stay In that rpm even when flooring it?? I have a 15 accord and it has zero resemblance to a transmission like shown in this video. You floor it, it just stays in a high rpm until you get off the gas. Then it just drops. Doesnt go up to simulate gears like other cvts do??
I like the smooth feeling of my cvt, i wish they didn't pretend to have steps. I have to activate Econ mode to make mine smooth
One thing I can say for sure: the concept is sound, but in practice, my 2016 Nissan CVT (Versa Note) is not smooth throughout. The biggest power-loss/"dropoff" tends to be around 45-50mph, when you're trying to get up to interstate speeds (60+ mph). I can definitely feel the transmission switching gears and the whole car drops back a bit...so there's definitely still steps to a CVT, all marketing aside. Great transmission for hills, though: it's a transmission that seems designed more for elevation (good "grip" going uphill) than smoothly shifting on flat roads. Certainly a technology that needs more refinement.
Chris Ducat I have the exact same problem with Nissan Versa Note 2015. Ended up with a new transmission out of my own pocket and it’s going back to the garage for the third time since the new replacement. Nissan Canada - terrible service, refused to pay for their defective part. It was dangerous too when it failed. Never again with Nissan. Definitely looking to join a class action lawsuit.
@@somasoms8721 I want to buy a versa note because it is one of the few cars that I can get into without hitting my head.. I'm driving a 2001Toyota Echo 2 door now and would like something newer and a little bigger. But nothing makes me want to take on the risk of a used Nissan.
kkarllwt definantly don’t get a Nissan. Far too many problems. Especially don’t get a jatco cvt which is in them. If you want a cvt, I have a suburu impreza and it’s great. I got it used with 100k miles and it still runs fine. There is a lag around 45 though which is annoying
i just bought 2020 Honda accord lx cvt! i don't know anything about car engine and transmission. do you think i bought a good car?
Every car can be a reliable vehicle just some are more expensive to repair or maintain. The 2020 Honda Accord lx is a great vehicle I would recommend changing oil every 3-4K miles and the cvt fluid every 30-45k miles!! Also cvt transmissions may not be reliable as a standard but it all comes down to how you treat the car!
I just got the 2020 Honda Accord EX-L, and it is a very smooth CVT. Had the 2018 Honda Civic before that, and it was also very good.
hmmm, now I know. I'll just stick with the third pedal. thanks for the video.
I have a Honda Insight 2019 that comes with a CVT and is everything but smooth and silent it is quite noisy when you step on the gas specially when you are on a hill.
Did u watch the video? He explained when driven easily like most people it will stay at low rpm
Our 09 Altima (coupe) has 224k+ on the odometer with the original CVT. I just love saying that lol, but overall be weary of Nissan CVTs.
Really....a CVT transmission easier on engine when you're revving 5000 6000 rpm on acceleration? Honda and Toyota CVTs seem to be more reliable than others but only time will tell. Early Nisson and Subaru CVTs had major problems.
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Honda and Toyota have consistently been far more reliable than every other car manufacturer on the planet for over four decades. This is something they purposely protect.
@@negativeindustrial you sure? Their reliability has steadily been going down since the 2010s. 8-speed automatics and newer engines in Toyotas have problems, Honda has oil dilution and transmission problems, none of this was present in their earlier cars. Their peak was around the 90s and 2000s-ish. Ever since then they've just been slowly creeping downhill. There are however a few examples of companies that have been going uphill in the past decade. Maybe people should consider those instead of unpredictable cars which claim to be reliable, but fall apart within a few years because they weren't tested, built, or designed correctly.
Aytug Demir
There are no Toyotas that do not make a quarter of a million miles with simple maintenance. That’s total nonsense.
@@negativeindustrial I never said they did? Idk where you got that from. Plus, I had a 2004 Hyundai Elantra that made it past 250k miles with simple maintenance, and probably could've gone even longer if I hadn't bought a new car. If Toyota goes that same mileage before breaking down as a Hyundai Elantra, which by the way a lot of people say is unreliable, then that really makes me question their "golden, one-of-a-kind, amazing" reliability. Americans are lazy these days, and on top of that hardly know anything about their cars and what's best for them anyways. If you do heavy maintenance, any Japanese car can get 100s of thousands of miles before blowing up. But these problems that I'm talking about remain even after heavy maintenance. Maintenance and replacing an entire transmission for thousands of dollars are two very different things.
Aytug Demir
I’m an engineer who spends nearly every weekend building cars with my friends from the ground up - every nut and bolt. Sounds like you have a pretty good handle on maintenance and that’s awesome. But, if you think I’m the typical lazy person who can’t change a tire, you’re barking up the wrong tree. I have accomplished some truly amazing builds in my lifetime and as an engineer, I can spend hours telling you why Toyota’s engineering is a cut above other brands.
But I don’t really need to. Toyotas cost, on average, $5k more than their rivals, yet people have flocked to buy them for decades now. There’s a proven track record behind them.
CVT's are not (yet) as reliable or durable as their conventional 'geared' automatics. And when they fail, they fail spectacularly (usually with total loss of acceleration). Many CVT's still need to be 'perfected' in terms of reliability/durability. Gas mileage is amazing, though. I recently got 45 MPG on a 490 mile Cleveland to NYC run with an Altima, with 2 passengers, a large dog, and a full trunk of luggage! It only took a bit over 3/4 of a tank of gas, whereas in the past, I always had to stop at least once to fuel up. I was blown away!
I believe if a cvt is built correctly, it can be more reliable than a automatic transmission. But and automatic transmission with physical gears can handle more power. Until the cvt is further developed, to handle more power.
Just bought a 2014 Nissan Maxima just turned 30,000 Miles. My First CVT Transmission, Have a Question, when i start accelerating from a stop, Car starts moving normally, then at about 15-20 mph the rpm,s drop to about 1200 rpm, really bogging the Engine down, then Car starts to accelerate normally and rpm,s come up normally. Is this Normal ???