I have the exact changes between Hard and Regicide datamined: Hard mode and Regicide both have 0.8x Player Damage they are the same. Hard mode has 1.5x enemy damage. Regicide is 1.75x enemy damage. Crit damage is set to 3x damage for enemies attacking you. (Not player -> enemy). Weakness damage is 3x damage *ontop of* the original multiplier for enemy attacks on the player. Anxiety is easier to inflict on the player. Retry Disabled. 2x Item Drop rate. Also, level scaling caps out at 16 under the enemy and stats have a very minimal effect in damage calculations. Gear alone hard carries how much things can do. A lot of formulas are similar to Digital Devil Saga if you are familiar with that game.
Big missed opportunity for the regicide difficulty to give access to the king archetype that we see in the final cutscene, even a mention in a new synthesis would've been cool
Maybe a Synthesis like Armageddon's Final Sire, unlocked maybe by 100%ing the Archetypes for ALL companions? Definitely doable on NG+ if you don't want to grind.
@arawa_sora but that's every ultimate persona or ally in persona games and smt games Satanael is the persona that results in joker breaking his link with his persona and putting his hopes into the public, still playable in new game plus Demi fiend in smt is a cameo, not canon as far as I know and he is still usable The point of new game plus exclusive power ups are that they are non canon ultimate versions made to break the game, since.... you know.... you're in new game plus You can also see this in other series like xenoblade 1, you get a weapon that is only used in the final boss and in new game plus it can be used to clear the whole game, new game plus is supposed to be a power trip
I hear you but Metaphor doesn't really respect NG+ Enjoyers Stat increases from activities don't carry over. How stupid is that? Ruined any hope I had for a NG+ run@@pralenkaman8105
Catherina can be so much a game changer. I had the luck to have her spawn in one of the Trials of the Dragon (on Regicide) and she just removed 1/3 of the dragon health before I even started.
Early on, healer is great because you don't have many healing items and some of the enemies are weak to holy. Later in the game, I use healer skills as inheritable on other characters.
@@PoppaCYS healer is never that good unless you are running a magic backline party. Healer has strong light magic, and magic knight heals better with mediline
@@spongbobsquarepants3922 I'd say the healer line is very strong in the early-midgame as you can max maria's social link very quickly. You can have a healer with 8 skillslots while mage has 5. Give healer the three mage skills and you have a mage that can also heal. Super powerful and versatile imo.
@@spongbobsquarepants3922Nah saviour has Synthesis That Give One time weakness against light if you use Utilitarian Manual you can get OP AoE turn Generator skills
@@dieuwtjinyea i was running magic build on MC for Hard mode and used the Healer line with inherited magic for a good chunk of the game. unlike SMT tho, u really dont end up needing stuff like Medicall or Pen Patra, u can get by with Medica and items even at the endgame. Hama spells were nice for mimics too
This was an excellent video and I hope Atlus adds more content to Metaphor eventually as I want the story to go on as it was so good. I wouldn't even mind a rerelease like with Persona 5 Royal etc.
@@thatguyshaq7053 Normally I'd agree but in this case there's some glaringly cut content in the middle of the game that a re-release could add (thinking the obviously missing Mage Academy dungeon for example) but DLC really wouldn't be able to. Not sure if that's worth it still but I think I'd be less annoyed in this case than I otherwise would be.
@@AgentNoun i just flat out disagree tbh. the mage academy wasn't needed at all to progress the story because everything you need to know about it is told to you
@@Hexatope There's a lot more to a story than just a checklist of knowledge that's needed to progress the story, though. If the whole game was like that, just telling you everything you need to know without showing you or letting you find or experience it yourself, it'd be horribly boring. Plus, a dungeon crawl feels very necessary to break up the insane rush of plot twists between 9/11-9/13. Some of that plot *really* needs some room to breathe and a dungeon crawl would've been a great way to do that. Finally, it seems strongly suggested you were supposed to search for More and Akademeia in the Mage Academy and perhaps find the "real" Akademeia in ruins, given the conversations you have with More immediately before and immediately after fighting Rella. It's clear there was supposed to be something that happened in between but whatever it was didn't make it into the full game.
Currently on my NG+ playthrough of Regicide running a full team of Merchants with the best x3 cost/damage abacus and equipped with Dilligent Discipline, Aim Support and Arcane Unity. I'm steamrolling most fights with just Gold Attack and the Synthesis skill. I haven't even allocated any points to the protag yet and I'm on Virga Island post story dungeon.
Surprisingly I found all the bosses until the final boss easy on regicide but most of my deaths were just from enemies getting the advantage and running through my whole team before I can fight back
@@soli6026 That is probably the strongest setup for new game + for the vast majority of the game. Gold attack is just too powerful like this, though utilitarian manual on meteophor and peerless stonecleaver are also be very powerful
@@spongbobsquarepants3922the best setup for mc most of the game is peerless stonecleaver with utilitarian manual and beloved greatsword. the only time merchant averages more damage is at the end and only if you run 4 tycoons with sense of kinship.
Same here, I didn't find that difficolt especially in early game it's actually easier than Hard mode. Eventually when I might feel playing it again I might do Regicide without NG+, that's probably gonna be the hardest version of the game for sure.
I really want to watch this video but I'm currently in the middle of playing this game and don't want to get any story spoilers, so I'll come back and watch at a later date 😊
honestly the best strat, i feel like, is Prince-Shtrol merchant-Basillio merchant-Heismay royal thief royal thief canceling an enemy's entire turn is beyond broken. merchant/tycoon both have high crit and dont have to worry about resistance making it way more reliable than fishing for crit for royal warrior and royal berserker
Parts of it seem in common with Persona 5 Merciless--weakness multiplier seems way bigger, misses happen more often. However, P5 Merciless went a bit too ham on it to the point where it made most battles _easier,_ since you also did more damage with weakness or technical hits.
Love to see that everyone saw Wanton Destruction and went "oh damn thats broken". Goes especially well with that one accessory that allows a party member to take two turns one after another.
Great vid. I can’t be bothered with NG+ so was cool to see how it changes. I just finished on Hard and discovered the Wanton Destruction juggling when fighting the final dragon trial with the rotating classes. if you don’t kill him quick enough he ends up using the nuke on you so I had to start making my own weaknesses. I took that combo into the Louis fights and also discovered a good combo with Euphie and Juna. If you inflict fire weakness with Juna you can follow up at any time with Euphras upgraded fire dragon summon, which lowers Louis def and atk by one plus does decent damage. As he doesn’t often clear debuffs or if you get a long turn it’s a good way to keep putting out dps whilst debuffing, and if like me you were lacking royal on Heismay or Basilio. Congrats and satisfying to watch those massive turns doing insane damage!
My experience with Regicide has been similar to yours, in that it's almost a coin flip. Either I win fights immediately, or I get one-shot. No in-between.
I accidentally went into the super Louis fight on my first play through had to reset and then drop the game from hard to normal unbelievably tough boss.
This was honestly the most difficult game they have made. I would say technically Nocturne is harder, but only because of the random encounters. The fact that hard gives the enemies extra press turns, and some enemies just having beast made me want to pull my hair out lol.
I have been making Regicide harder by only using weapons I've gotten through the playthrough. Through chests or purchasing. It's tedious because changing archetype automatically sets you to the best items, but if I used the strongest items I literally beat bosses with basic attacks (I'm pretty early on still).
Actually based idea. I mean, if it's all the same, you can even just sell all weapons at the start of the playthrough. Will save you some time with the whole strongest weapon thing.
@ollenadgam the better items are still a get out of jail free card 😅 Especially for the late game bosses, I imagine it's nice to have multiple of the same Archetypes, like Tycoon, each with an item you only get one of through each playthrough.
@@Ebenezer563 quick update: started my regicide run and did just that. Sold literally everything that could be sold (the king weapons and the items you get from hanging out with people before and after ehtria cannot be sold, but it's easy enough to just avoid using them). Been having a blast. Feels like a way more balanced experience and more of a natural progression of difficulty if you are coming from finishing hard mode. Truly believe this is the best way to go if you want your second playthrough to be more about the strategy and build crafting, which was what I was looking for to begin with.
I played the first 75% of the game on hard and the last 25% on normal. The only things that actually scare me in regicide are the dragons and Louis which is where I toned down the difficulty.
34:06 hahaha the return of Wastrel Beam! It seems to be a universal constant across the Atlus multiverse. Still, be glad its only 10% total. In SMT IV only 2 enemies have a skill like that but it literally halves your money with each use.
Archtype levels do carry over, even if you have to reunlock them. And how can you tell? Well, I dont remember Cyclo being unlocked at base lmao. This also means the slight stat upgrades stay. And once you can put on your OP equipment again, you deal dmg FAR surpassed what you had on the first playthrough.
The fact that I ran past all the humans to see what that last boss would be like only to get freaking creamed over and over again… at least I beat the hardest version
I got a modded save and played regicide on new game on my first play through, basically taught me that the first 2/3s of the game are a magic game, and the final 3rd is a phys, in the final throws of the game, magic is obsolete purely because of how insane merchant is.
Speed stats affect the hit rate and dodge, and not helping that she and her knight class as starter slow down lots speed, so better use item increase her speed stats
Regicide should’ve really been available from the beginning it’s a shame, it was really fun and challenging when I did NG+ and gave everyone equipment they got at that stage of the game.
Also fun fact! Frigid Ice Fortress is busted. My final party was Junah (RMD General Mask), Strohl (RS), and Hulkenberg (RK). Myself, Hulk, and Strohl inherited Frigid Ice Fortress and you can create a one time weakness to ice with Junah against ALL enemies, then cycle your 8 turns for around 8k Damage (higher if you also manage your buffs and debuffs well.) each round. Magic builds are nuts.
ugh... no retry button hurts since there's no "back to menu" option during battle. so you have a bad start on a fight the fastest option is to go Alt+f4 and boot the game again.
36:14 You killed him before *what*? Maybe Im just misremembering, or I killed him in 1-2 turns on both hard and regicide, but I do not recall that being a thing.
I didnt struggle with Regicide that much on NG+ as you can bring your OP weapons, armor and items so early enemies get bodied by normal attacks. Final boss is also cakewalk compared to the Secret Boss as you will have accessories that just repel Phys and Mag.
Nice vid, this is exactly what i wanted to see after beating the game. But what was your strat to get to lvl 99 and which enemies drop bejewelled roots for 3000 a-exp?
Tbf, Miracle Cirque is a physical attack, so it makes sense that Junah can't do anything with it. It'd probably be better on Strohl or a certain later fella.
So, mind you, I'm on the outside lookin' in here, I can't afford the game, so... My opinion is a bit iffy since I don't quite know how good the healing items are in this over other Atlus games... But like... Of course the Healer isn't going to be good at dealing damage. It's called *THE HEALER.* That's like opening a can that says 'Baked Beans', and being disappointed that it wasn't Spaghetti-Os.
If you get to the end of the game and save up all of the incenses. Do they carry over? Could you incense immediately to like level 1 but 20 in all state?
I hoped regicide would be like Godborn from SMT V where you keep everything but the enemies get juiced to max level. You are op but so are they and the only thing helping you in combat is everything you learned up until now.
Bro doesn't know many of the skills that apply weakness to their own skill? The ice weakness one and fire weakness one were easily my most used in the game. And the mage knight synth move thet applied lighning weakness carried till the mid game.
She had to have been a party member at some point during concept phases and she was probably replaced with Basilio to keep the one per tribe thing they were doing
I played hard with only luck stats and my max damage was 550 or so, and then I came to youtube and I see 7x times more damage I was so upset that I deleted the game(i was stucked on dragon's towers)
In my opinion regicide should had been available for the first playthrough not just new game plus and one day I hope Atlas add a skip prologue option because it super slow even when you skip all the dialogue. The intro make the beginning game unbearable to playthrough
I find that to be a problem with most Atlus games. They need to do a new game plus mode where it skips the tutorials and early dialogue automatically. The early game is the reason I haven't did the other route in SMT V2
This game's only glaring issue with new game plus is the need to grind back all your hard earned archetypes since they are locked again behind the bond system.
I dont disagree necessarily. But healer is amazing early game with pugilist cause of the amount of holy weak enemies in thr early game. Swordsman and other then tarukaja seeker such so much ass.
with how fucking awful my party comp was for the final month and boss this video just purifies my soul seeing all the one shots. i fukcing hate that this game makes it almost mandatory to do every side dungeon to overlevel the content and make op archetypes to stand a chance. i was also mp starved the whole endgame leading to me not being able to beat more than 2 out of the repeat bosses so louis was even more of a drag just because i didnt know mage had mp exploits. because you dotn fucking get good mages until the end of the fucking game so i just skipped the calss after early game
@FlameOfUdun96 than my bad must have skipped the part. i presume i wasn't voiced so i missed it. its still weird that he never did this in gane ever so to introduce such a crucial mechanic to that area so late into the game. yes its my fault mainly but the game is at fault too
oooh trials before louis, that should be fun! :) oh ok so that's another dragon, ugh a hard battle incoming... uhuh dragon's lvl 70 wow, and mine... oh... 54... I can bet him without farming right?... right? *2 days later* YES this fire oneshot dragon is dead yappie *couple of hours later* wait was he the hardest one? I fought for 2 days with the hardest of them all??? these dragons are babies! *today* oh wait what lvl is louis? oh he's lvl 82 and mine... omg 71 it's 10+ lvl difference again! how did I win this??? edt: hard difficulty btw
The fire dragon was not the hardest one. its easily the devourer of stars which is the hard one. it drops your HP to 300, hexes you, resets buffs and debuffs etc. flames gets dropped by null and repel fire equipment
just remembered a counter argument: fire dragon does charm to everyone which is much worse than hex because of turn loss and one shot move next turn, and further in battle he's doing this combo more frequently, up until back to back. plus null fire are post dragons and repel is one accessory (dunno if there could be copies outside ng+)
Do you just not have the option to do Regicide without NG+? Sounds disappointing, although I'll at least say that by most standards, the early game of Metaphor on hard was incredibly tedious if you cared about the time management part of the game (having to go back every time to massacre weak mobs as mage to recover some MP was not very thrilling). Bit of a bummer that equipment carries over though, perhaps there was a more elegant way to transfer things over. Perhaps skills you bought in the previous playthrough could still be accessed, that'd be neat and not as crazy.
There are some saves that some people made that allow you to play a NG+ run without bonuses, making it the easiest way to do a clean ng+ run. Best we have so far
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trust me. you totally need the First playtru savedata before NG+ regi dificult.
@@Lonewulf321 I have found the superboss flag and difficulty address so can access both without actually needing a ng+ no bonus save. New game regicide is a perfectly viable first run. I don’t know why they locked it tbh
Regicide is not hard all you will breeze through under 15hrs compared to hard first run. The only parts you will find hard all the same is the rng if you go to fight these 2 at low level like i did. Apocalypse dragon at lvl 63 bit of a headache, true dragon at 65 rng made for 4 retries. Now going to see true ending boss, no guardians killed and i suppose that one is a nasty one. Unless you look at cheese guides which is rather dull and pointless. Theres always those cheese guides, which sucks the fun out of achieving highest difficulty kills.
I have the exact changes between Hard and Regicide datamined:
Hard mode and Regicide both have 0.8x Player Damage they are the same.
Hard mode has 1.5x enemy damage. Regicide is 1.75x enemy damage.
Crit damage is set to 3x damage for enemies attacking you. (Not player -> enemy).
Weakness damage is 3x damage *ontop of* the original multiplier for enemy attacks on the player.
Anxiety is easier to inflict on the player.
Retry Disabled.
2x Item Drop rate.
Also, level scaling caps out at 16 under the enemy and stats have a very minimal effect in damage calculations. Gear alone hard carries how much things can do. A lot of formulas are similar to Digital Devil Saga if you are familiar with that game.
Game itself sort of reminds me of DDS with persona calendar systems
what about the EXP ?
>Anxiety is easier to inflict
Ah fuck man. I was looking forward to using Mother’s Sword instead of that 500ATK sword
@@EsphemeralWind EXP is unchanged. Scales off player level in comparison to enemy level
Big missed opportunity for the regicide difficulty to give access to the king archetype that we see in the final cutscene, even a mention in a new synthesis would've been cool
Maybe a Synthesis like Armageddon's Final Sire, unlocked maybe by 100%ing the Archetypes for ALL companions? Definitely doable on NG+ if you don't want to grind.
Might be impossible, considering the King archetype is a fusion between you, your companions, and the skyrunner, lol
Basically a mech at this point
@arawa_sora but that's every ultimate persona or ally in persona games and smt games
Satanael is the persona that results in joker breaking his link with his persona and putting his hopes into the public, still playable in new game plus
Demi fiend in smt is a cameo, not canon as far as I know and he is still usable
The point of new game plus exclusive power ups are that they are non canon ultimate versions made to break the game, since.... you know.... you're in new game plus
You can also see this in other series like xenoblade 1, you get a weapon that is only used in the final boss and in new game plus it can be used to clear the whole game, new game plus is supposed to be a power trip
I hear you but Metaphor doesn't really respect NG+ Enjoyers
Stat increases from activities don't carry over. How stupid is that? Ruined any hope I had for a NG+ run@@pralenkaman8105
"He keeps going after Hulkenberg" "The enemy turns its attention to the group"
Hm, I wonder why he's going Hulkenberg.....>.>
It could sense that Hulkenberg wanted to eat it?
Catherina can be so much a game changer. I had the luck to have her spawn in one of the Trials of the Dragon (on Regicide) and she just removed 1/3 of the dragon health before I even started.
I got even luckier and found her in the poison dragon
@@nintonintendo1 I think you can only get her to spawn against devourer of stars
@@spongbobsquarepants3922 No, I had her on only the poison dragon.
@@tac7288 ...Which is devourer of stars.
@@spongbobsquarepants3922U rite mb, never paid attention to their names x-x
Early on, healer is great because you don't have many healing items and some of the enemies are weak to holy. Later in the game, I use healer skills as inheritable on other characters.
@@PoppaCYS healer is never that good unless you are running a magic backline party. Healer has strong light magic, and magic knight heals better with mediline
@@spongbobsquarepants3922 I'd say the healer line is very strong in the early-midgame as you can max maria's social link very quickly. You can have a healer with 8 skillslots while mage has 5. Give healer the three mage skills and you have a mage that can also heal. Super powerful and versatile imo.
@@spongbobsquarepants3922Nah saviour has Synthesis That Give One time weakness against light if you use Utilitarian Manual you can get OP AoE turn Generator skills
@@dieuwtjinyea i was running magic build on MC for Hard mode and used the Healer line with inherited magic for a good chunk of the game. unlike SMT tho, u really dont end up needing stuff like Medicall or Pen Patra, u can get by with Medica and items even at the endgame. Hama spells were nice for mimics too
@@spongbobsquarepants3922 I use Healer lineage because Saviour looks cool. We are not the same.
This was an excellent video and I hope Atlus adds more content to Metaphor eventually as I want the story to go on as it was so good. I wouldn't even mind a rerelease like with Persona 5 Royal etc.
Yes! After replaying royal waiting for metaphor I can definitely see the additions
@@michaelhowell2809 No, no re-release. DLC will be fine.
@@thatguyshaq7053 Normally I'd agree but in this case there's some glaringly cut content in the middle of the game that a re-release could add (thinking the obviously missing Mage Academy dungeon for example) but DLC really wouldn't be able to. Not sure if that's worth it still but I think I'd be less annoyed in this case than I otherwise would be.
@@AgentNoun i just flat out disagree tbh. the mage academy wasn't needed at all to progress the story because everything you need to know about it is told to you
@@Hexatope There's a lot more to a story than just a checklist of knowledge that's needed to progress the story, though. If the whole game was like that, just telling you everything you need to know without showing you or letting you find or experience it yourself, it'd be horribly boring.
Plus, a dungeon crawl feels very necessary to break up the insane rush of plot twists between 9/11-9/13. Some of that plot *really* needs some room to breathe and a dungeon crawl would've been a great way to do that.
Finally, it seems strongly suggested you were supposed to search for More and Akademeia in the Mage Academy and perhaps find the "real" Akademeia in ruins, given the conversations you have with More immediately before and immediately after fighting Rella. It's clear there was supposed to be something that happened in between but whatever it was didn't make it into the full game.
Beautiful dodge Heismay!
Currently on my NG+ playthrough of Regicide running a full team of Merchants with the best x3 cost/damage abacus and equipped with Dilligent Discipline, Aim Support and Arcane Unity. I'm steamrolling most fights with just Gold Attack and the Synthesis skill. I haven't even allocated any points to the protag yet and I'm on Virga Island post story dungeon.
It never gets harder except for the final boss. the equipment and archetype mastery carries all the way to the end.
Surprisingly I found all the bosses until the final boss easy on regicide but most of my deaths were just from enemies getting the advantage and running through my whole team before I can fight back
@@______-uw3ei what is the build you run on
Mc?
I want to run basilio, hulkenberg, and 3 eyed girl.
@@gravemind76Just run Merchant/Tycoon with the Gambler’s Manual and have the Fortune God’s Abacus and make sure to raise Str as high as possible
@@soli6026 That is probably the strongest setup for new game + for the vast majority of the game. Gold attack is just too powerful like this, though utilitarian manual on meteophor and peerless stonecleaver are also be very powerful
@@spongbobsquarepants3922the best setup for mc most of the game is peerless stonecleaver with utilitarian manual and beloved greatsword. the only time merchant averages more damage is at the end and only if you run 4 tycoons with sense of kinship.
I always remove enemy agility buffs asap because they’ll always randomly dodge even at plus 1
This is why Debilitate is better than Vidraytha
Same here, I didn't find that difficolt especially in early game it's actually easier than Hard mode.
Eventually when I might feel playing it again I might do Regicide without NG+, that's probably gonna be the hardest version of the game for sure.
I really want to watch this video but I'm currently in the middle of playing this game and don't want to get any story spoilers, so I'll come back and watch at a later date 😊
honestly the best strat, i feel like, is
Prince-Shtrol merchant-Basillio merchant-Heismay royal thief
royal thief canceling an enemy's entire turn is beyond broken.
merchant/tycoon both have high crit and dont have to worry about resistance making it way more reliable than fishing for crit for royal warrior and royal berserker
Parts of it seem in common with Persona 5 Merciless--weakness multiplier seems way bigger, misses happen more often. However, P5 Merciless went a bit too ham on it to the point where it made most battles _easier,_ since you also did more damage with weakness or technical hits.
I've never been a fan of difficulties making enemies bullet sponges
40:03
"Level 69 we were 6 levels under it"
Strohl: ..... Nice
After mistakenly buying the 100 dollar version of the game and not the 70 dollar one I’m going to play this game on the hardest difficulty possible
Love to see that everyone saw Wanton Destruction and went "oh damn thats broken". Goes especially well with that one accessory that allows a party member to take two turns one after another.
Literally carried me through the final boss. Basilio is a fucking menace.
Hulkenburg’s save thing on her ranks also saves MC from CRITs too. It triggered a lot for me, lol.
Great vid.
I can’t be bothered with NG+ so was cool to see how it changes. I just finished on Hard and discovered the Wanton Destruction juggling when fighting the final dragon trial with the rotating classes. if you don’t kill him quick enough he ends up using the nuke on you so I had to start making my own weaknesses. I took that combo into the Louis fights and also discovered a good combo with Euphie and Juna. If you inflict fire weakness with Juna you can follow up at any time with Euphras upgraded fire dragon summon, which lowers Louis def and atk by one plus does decent damage. As he doesn’t often clear debuffs or if you get a long turn it’s a good way to keep putting out dps whilst debuffing, and if like me you were lacking royal on Heismay or Basilio. Congrats and satisfying to watch those massive turns doing insane damage!
My experience with Regicide has been similar to yours, in that it's almost a coin flip. Either I win fights immediately, or I get one-shot. No in-between.
I accidentally went into the super Louis fight on my first play through had to reset and then drop the game from hard to normal unbelievably tough boss.
i believe destroyer charadrius is human not only because the game says so in the cutscene, but he also triggers basilio’s passive
This was honestly the most difficult game they have made. I would say technically Nocturne is harder, but only because of the random encounters. The fact that hard gives the enemies extra press turns, and some enemies just having beast made me want to pull my hair out lol.
I didn't struggle with this game like I did the SMT games.
No joker boss battle, bit of a walk in the park.
I have been making Regicide harder by only using weapons I've gotten through the playthrough. Through chests or purchasing. It's tedious because changing archetype automatically sets you to the best items, but if I used the strongest items I literally beat bosses with basic attacks (I'm pretty early on still).
Actually based idea. I mean, if it's all the same, you can even just sell all weapons at the start of the playthrough. Will save you some time with the whole strongest weapon thing.
@ollenadgam the better items are still a get out of jail free card 😅
Especially for the late game bosses, I imagine it's nice to have multiple of the same Archetypes, like Tycoon, each with an item you only get one of through each playthrough.
Could always sell everything at the start of the play through
@@Ebenezer563 quick update: started my regicide run and did just that. Sold literally everything that could be sold (the king weapons and the items you get from hanging out with people before and after ehtria cannot be sold, but it's easy enough to just avoid using them).
Been having a blast. Feels like a way more balanced experience and more of a natural progression of difficulty if you are coming from finishing hard mode. Truly believe this is the best way to go if you want your second playthrough to be more about the strategy and build crafting, which was what I was looking for to begin with.
I wanted the Star Shatterer trophy and I immediately regretted it. It took me over two hours to beat his third phase.
I played the first 75% of the game on hard and the last 25% on normal. The only things that actually scare me in regicide are the dragons and Louis which is where I toned down the difficulty.
This was a pretty informative and I’m in the Louise final dungeon and looking at your set up I kinda feel underprepared
Great video!
I was curious about the hardest difficulty without wanting to go through it myself 😅lol
Strol on his critical hit build is about to cause a lotta damage
34:06 hahaha the return of Wastrel Beam! It seems to be a universal constant across the Atlus multiverse. Still, be glad its only 10% total. In SMT IV only 2 enemies have a skill like that but it literally halves your money with each use.
Archtype levels do carry over, even if you have to reunlock them.
And how can you tell? Well, I dont remember Cyclo being unlocked at base lmao.
This also means the slight stat upgrades stay. And once you can put on your OP equipment again, you deal dmg FAR surpassed what you had on the first playthrough.
The fact that I ran past all the humans to see what that last boss would be like only to get freaking creamed over and over again… at least I beat the hardest version
I got a modded save and played regicide on new game on my first play through, basically taught me that the first 2/3s of the game are a magic game, and the final 3rd is a phys, in the final throws of the game, magic is obsolete purely because of how insane merchant is.
Hulkenberg let me down repeatedly the entire endgame. Especially with her randomly MISSING ALL THE TIME
Speed stats affect the hit rate and dodge, and not helping that she and her knight class as starter slow down lots speed, so better use item increase her speed stats
Regicide should’ve really been available from the beginning it’s a shame, it was really fun and challenging when I did NG+ and gave everyone equipment they got at that stage of the game.
i really hope we get a "royal" version of the game
Also fun fact! Frigid Ice Fortress is busted. My final party was Junah (RMD General Mask), Strohl (RS), and Hulkenberg (RK).
Myself, Hulk, and Strohl inherited Frigid Ice Fortress and you can create a one time weakness to ice with Junah against ALL enemies, then cycle your 8 turns for around 8k Damage (higher if you also manage your buffs and debuffs well.) each round.
Magic builds are nuts.
How long did it take you to grind to level 99? Like I did some grinding in NG hard to get to the 70s, can’t imagine how long getting to 99 would be.
ugh... no retry button hurts since there's no "back to menu" option during battle. so you have a bad start on a fight the fastest option is to go Alt+f4 and boot the game again.
36:14 You killed him before *what*? Maybe Im just misremembering, or I killed him in 1-2 turns on both hard and regicide, but I do not recall that being a thing.
How do you have catherina at rank 7 so early? Mine is at 4 and im already in september... how ?
I didnt struggle with Regicide that much on NG+ as you can bring your OP weapons, armor and items so early enemies get bodied by normal attacks.
Final boss is also cakewalk compared to the Secret Boss as you will have accessories that just repel Phys and Mag.
I wish they gave us the option of what to bring for NG+, or at the very least an equipment stash
Nice vid, this is exactly what i wanted to see after beating the game. But what was your strat to get to lvl 99 and which enemies drop bejewelled roots for 3000 a-exp?
I'm in Brilehaven and it hasn't been too hard. But I'm using the OP Mirror accessories that repel either physical or magic.
Tbf, Miracle Cirque is a physical attack, so it makes sense that Junah can't do anything with it.
It'd probably be better on Strohl or a certain later fella.
So, mind you, I'm on the outside lookin' in here, I can't afford the game, so... My opinion is a bit iffy since I don't quite know how good the healing items are in this over other Atlus games...
But like... Of course the Healer isn't going to be good at dealing damage. It's called *THE HEALER.* That's like opening a can that says 'Baked Beans', and being disappointed that it wasn't Spaghetti-Os.
If you get to the end of the game and save up all of the incenses. Do they carry over? Could you incense immediately to like level 1 but 20 in all state?
I hoped regicide would be like Godborn from SMT V where you keep everything but the enemies get juiced to max level. You are op but so are they and the only thing helping you in combat is everything you learned up until now.
Bro doesn't know many of the skills that apply weakness to their own skill? The ice weakness one and fire weakness one were easily my most used in the game. And the mage knight synth move thet applied lighning weakness carried till the mid game.
hopefully Catherina becomes playable on DLC
She had to have been a party member at some point during concept phases and she was probably replaced with Basilio to keep the one per tribe thing they were doing
@@WinstonOfDojima they are both the same race
@@jassimmudhaf234 I know lol that’s what I said
@@WinstonOfDojima OK I thought you meant that basilio only existed to replace Catherine which made no sense to me
I played hard with only luck stats and my max damage was 550 or so, and then I came to youtube and I see 7x times more damage I was so upset that I deleted the game(i was stucked on dragon's towers)
im doing regicide and im regretting maxing all the archetypes before ng+, I will not gain extra stats from mastering a archetype
Good video
Do i need to leveling up again if i want play ng+? Because my previous level already full level 99.
Sadly, yes
@monlei1020 to bad, im already master all arcthype too.
Archetype levels carry over @@raupaup5
I disagree with the healer opinion. They're supposed to heal. They aren't damage dealers.
In my opinion regicide should had been available for the first playthrough not just new game plus and one day I hope Atlas add a skip prologue option because it super slow even when you skip all the dialogue. The intro make the beginning game unbearable to playthrough
I find that to be a problem with most Atlus games. They need to do a new game plus mode where it skips the tutorials and early dialogue automatically. The early game is the reason I haven't did the other route in SMT V2
This game's only glaring issue with new game plus is the need to grind back all your hard earned archetypes since they are locked again behind the bond system.
DDS Demi Fiend is still the Goat boss then.
Ding ding ding! The correct opinion has arrived!
Eupha's paladin isn't maxed, noooooo
I would rather be forced to finish SMT IV on master with no demons auto battler only than play this mid
I dont disagree necessarily. But healer is amazing early game with pugilist cause of the amount of holy weak enemies in thr early game. Swordsman and other then tarukaja seeker such so much ass.
with how fucking awful my party comp was for the final month and boss this video just purifies my soul seeing all the one shots. i fukcing hate that this game makes it almost mandatory to do every side dungeon to overlevel the content and make op archetypes to stand a chance. i was also mp starved the whole endgame leading to me not being able to beat more than 2 out of the repeat bosses so louis was even more of a drag just because i didnt know mage had mp exploits. because you dotn fucking get good mages until the end of the fucking game so i just skipped the calss after early game
If you talk to Neurus at the start of the final area he fully heals you including mp
@michaelherrmann5562 i didnt know that. thxs for sharing but how was I supposed to know. he never did that prior
Skill issue
@@averagesoul8256…he tells you lol
@FlameOfUdun96 than my bad must have skipped the part. i presume i wasn't voiced so i missed it. its still weird that he never did this in gane ever so to introduce such a crucial mechanic to that area so late into the game. yes its my fault mainly but the game is at fault too
oooh trials before louis, that should be fun! :)
oh ok so that's another dragon, ugh a hard battle incoming...
uhuh dragon's lvl 70 wow, and mine... oh... 54... I can bet him without farming right?... right?
*2 days later*
YES this fire oneshot dragon is dead yappie
*couple of hours later*
wait was he the hardest one? I fought for 2 days with the hardest of them all??? these dragons are babies!
*today*
oh wait what lvl is louis? oh he's lvl 82 and mine... omg 71 it's 10+ lvl difference again! how did I win this???
edt: hard difficulty btw
The fire dragon was not the hardest one. its easily the devourer of stars which is the hard one. it drops your HP to 300, hexes you, resets buffs and debuffs etc. flames gets dropped by null and repel fire equipment
just remembered a counter argument: fire dragon does charm to everyone which is much worse than hex because of turn loss and one shot move next turn, and further in battle he's doing this combo more frequently, up until back to back. plus null fire are post dragons and repel is one accessory (dunno if there could be copies outside ng+)
bro cheated the archetype grind forsurree lol
Great vid. GOTY
Do you just not have the option to do Regicide without NG+? Sounds disappointing, although I'll at least say that by most standards, the early game of Metaphor on hard was incredibly tedious if you cared about the time management part of the game (having to go back every time to massacre weak mobs as mage to recover some MP was not very thrilling). Bit of a bummer that equipment carries over though, perhaps there was a more elegant way to transfer things over. Perhaps skills you bought in the previous playthrough could still be accessed, that'd be neat and not as crazy.
There are some saves that some people made that allow you to play a NG+ run without bonuses, making it the easiest way to do a clean ng+ run. Best we have so far
trust me. you totally need the First playtru savedata before NG+ regi dificult.
You dont. Its not that difficult. The only problem is MAG costs
@@Lonewulf321 I have found the superboss flag and difficulty address so can access both without actually needing a ng+ no bonus save.
New game regicide is a perfectly viable first run. I don’t know why they locked it tbh
@@Ziroikabi my comment was for people who have no ability to change their game data.
"Metaphor: R E fantazio" 🤢
Wait, is that not how it's pronounced??? Is it Rayfantazio???
Archetype levels don't carry over? 🤮
They do, but they're locked behind Bonds.
Regicide is not hard all you will breeze through under 15hrs compared to hard first run. The only parts you will find hard all the same is the rng if you go to fight these 2 at low level like i did. Apocalypse dragon at lvl 63 bit of a headache, true dragon at 65 rng made for 4 retries. Now going to see true ending boss, no guardians killed and i suppose that one is a nasty one. Unless you look at cheese guides which is rather dull and pointless. Theres always those cheese guides, which sucks the fun out of achieving highest difficulty kills.