Lore Expert Plays Alan Wake 2 | Lake House DLC
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the dark place should NOT have threshold kids on its disposal, it all over if they get it
That would begin Topher's villain Arc
I’m starting to think time in the inside of the Oldest House might be out of sync with the outside, possibly as a side effect of the lockdown. Firstly, we get documents in the AWE expansion of things that happen in Alan Wake 2 that shouldn’t have happened yet in Control’s timeline. Add that with the AWE alert at the end of the expansion which seems to have come from the future, now I’m not sure it did. I think it came from the present, they just don’t know how much time has passed outside. Then there’s the fact that this Lakehouse expansion confirms that from the field agents’ perspective the oldest house has gone dark for four years. Realistically if the Hiss invasion went on for that long the Oldest House the agents inside would have died a long time ago from their resources and supplies running out. No food, no ammo. I think once lockdown lifts, from their perspective only a few weeks/months max would have passed, but they’ll be surprised to find that outside at least four years have passed. Wonder how they’ll explain that to their families and the families of the deceased.
I’m beginning to suspect the same thing. I think the Board is somehow manipulating time and space in order for the people trapped inside to think a relatively short people of time has passed as well as somehow causing food to appear (there is a hamper mentioned in Arthurian mythology that states that if food for one person is put in the amount of food found in the hamper goes to enough for a hundred people. Perhaps it is an OoP that is in existence at the Oldest House?)
I agree. It makes sense, since the Oldest House isn't actually in the same space-time continuum of New York, the door is just a threshold: maybe the lockdown created a filter between the time in New York and the time in Oldest House.
Or maybe the Board is involved.
The Lake House is NOT the Lodge at all. They've borrowed ideas (And people) from Hartman's work, but they are not at all the Lodge. Also the "Treshold" she was referring to was Cauldron Lake itself, which is still visible right there from the Lake House.
57:48 "There was a researcher at the OH who had tons of ideas like this. Wish I could remember their name."
the person whose name they forgot is Dr. Emily Pope, current bureau's Head of Research (and has been for like, 3 years at this point) lol
to bad she has been stuck in the OH since someone thought it would be a good idea to turn on a magic slide projector (looking at you trench) and have a freshly hired janitors assistant come in and clean up the mess. i even heard the janitor's assistant got less than 5 minutes of orientation before the head janitor went on vacation. i'm just gonna say it... we need FBC reform.
Nearly 5 years actually. The events of Control took place in 2019, the events of Lake House take place concurrently in parallel with the events of Saga’s portion of AW2 in September of 2023. 4 years and change. Pope was made head of research by Jesse after she closed the slide projector in 19. Imagine how Emily would have reacted to that Black Rock launcher, she would have geeked out.
Those paint monsters scared the hell out of me, LOL! Bro you're gonna love the last part ❤10/10 dlc for me, I absolutely loved it!
P.S: Estevez is narrating the lake house story to Saga after the first boss fight with Scratch (according to Remedy patch notes)
Good to know. Yeah chat clued menin to that near the end.
This dlc has some interesting lore implications. And it's also quite terrifying at points imo.
This whole DLC was suchhhh a huge lore dump and I LOVED it. So many scary/mindblowing implications, especially the scene with Dylan. My jaw literally dropped haha
Did you notice during the moments when Scratch showed his presence that it was also followed by the faces of Jules and Diana Marmont? It hints that they have become their very own Scratches. Crazy.
The lake house is to the left of the beach where the overlap appears. You can see the lodge way up on the hill in the right. It's new construction in a new plot of land
I swear I read something that this is what happened. I feel like I'm going crazy lol
seriously though, let's all thank god (or maybe alan) that the creep who created the threshold kids never came to cauldron lake lol. alan was like "i'll fuck a lot of things up but even i have a line"
I was so excited to see your reaction to certain things and they did not disappoint (especially with your reaction to the Painted) I also love hearing your opinion on stuff in the game. If it wasn’t for your channel I probably wouldn’t be as knowledgeable in the Remedyverse! The first Alan Wake changed my life in a significant way and your passion for the Remedy games is infectious! Amazing video!
Love the pfp by the way! And thank you. That's why I don't like watching the trailers so things like this are always my gut reaction. The first Alan Wake is one of my greatest influences in life in a weird way. I know what you mean.
I love the idea that the dark place could manifest martial "arts" into reality. What does that entail? I want to be the first Shadow Fu practitioner.
I was thinking maybe Tai chi would be a better form of art. But how does one interpret synchronized swimming? Even the dark presence wouldn't know what to do with that
Yes, they are teasing Control 2, Remedy is also teasing FBC Firebreak. Some of the taken in this DLC look very similar to the playable characters from the new game.
btw i don't think saga and casey got involved until the last couple loops, handful at most. saga has the explicit ability to change and shift the story just by virtue of being a seer. i don't think she would've gotten lost in the loops for too long before being able to push through
related to timing, though: i always got the impression the FBC showed up right after saga and casey, once the monitoring station started going off, after speaking to the bookers and waking nightingale. in fact, it was that very manuscript that told us that lol.
20:46 The loading screen tips said that the Lake House was set up in 2015, I don't recall they mentioned it elsewhere
Okay cool. I'm sure we had that someone in Control but I don't recall. Need to replay it
It says "2015" on the texture of the document itself but if you read the ingame tooltip for the document it says "July 18" instead, probably for the computer password puzzle. No idea why they did it like that.
I am at 2:28:45 and ... I believe that there might be a small window of time where this might have actually happened.
The Lake House replies to us at the beginning of the game if we ring the facility.
They refuse to speak, obviously, but they reply so someone is there!
Tammy and Ed get in an argument not long after we meet them, so... it's possible that he was kidnapped just hours before everything went down and not long before Estevez came to check on the Lake House after being called for Back Up.
“Your scientists were so preoccupied with if they could, they didn’t think if they should.”
Ian Malcolm is a treasure trove of great quotes
@@GamingUniversityUoG indeed he is.
“The timeline doesn’t make sense!”
*is playing Alan Wake II*😂😂😂
The timeline always makes sense I'd you know Doc Brown and think 4th dimensionally lol
It's always interesting and a pleasure watching you play and analyze remedy verse. Thank you again!
Absolutely! I love going through these games. Especially first time
Everywhere in the world monday starts first
Apparently America is just a rebel on our calendars lol
@@GamingUniversityUoG 😂😂
The frequency hopping Hedy Lamarr invented is still used as part of the bluetooth protocol
Anyone else feel like there is probably going to be an update to help balance out this DLC, similar to what they did with night springs (I remember one of the update notes saying they went a bit heavy handed with ammo/health at launch which was not their intention)? The painted are way to over powered for how little healing there is, and there seems to be no way to avoid being grabbed by them at times. At first I thought maybe the trick was not running and being slow/careful around them as it seemed to take a few seconds for them to pull themselves off the wall. However, not all of them seem to behave this way and will just instantly jump you with no warning and leave you with next to no health/insta kill you.
I'll just run away. Because yeah I didnt have enough ammo to take even one down so it's not worth attempting
This DLC was SOOOOO hard haha I died so much
Ngl the painting monsters pissed me off when I was playing the dlc at first.
As I'm sure yall have noticed by now there is a special weapon to kill those things lol. Otherwise avoid them
2:34:51 Oooosh More shots fired at toxic modern writing tropes in the industry. Remedy is on fire with the commentary in this storyline.
Dude I was not expecting this but I am all here for it!
@@GamingUniversityUoG I find the commentary interested because that's is what Remedy was being accused of doing or have done to them with the whole Saga Anderson race swamp controversy. So I feel like they they could be trying to make a statement on the issue and show how they feel about the issues of the accusations around them in some way.
2:46:50 In Finland our calendar weeks begin on a Monday and end on a Sunday, someone at Remedy might have been a little used to home while making that
2:00:44 like most in science... because they can do it, they don't ask themselves if they should do it.
What irks me is that their mission statement is to study controlling the entities that come from the Dark Place. NOT research how to manipulate reality.
Whoa, at first glance, the second (I think) encounter with the angry painting (at 2:02:54 ) was REALLY reminiscent of Dylan's cell in Control. Like a mix of his main cell and the one they put him in in the main area. It even looks like him floating in the second cell.
I really love your videos and your lore details, but I have to say that you have a tendency to ignore the obvious answer for more complicated ones. Like thinking the Lakehouse was the threshold mentioned instead of Cauldron Lake, or having the theory that the maintenance being mentioned in the Oldest House but seeing it being done 4 years later means that they’re in a time loop instead of it just being repaired multiple times, which is mentioned in the Control document as well. It means that you come to some conclusions that I probably wouldn’t have even considered, which is awesome, but also that you sometimes miss the trees for the forest.
It’s mind blowing when you get something that makes total sense, but frustrating when you miss something that seems obvious to me. It really makes this my favorite channel to watch!
One instance of that is with Zane. You took Jesse saying that she always remembers him as a poet instead of a filmmaker, Saga knowing him as a filmmaker, along with Alan calling him a fictional poet, as evidence that the Dark Place changed their memories. This is despite the fact that all 3 seem to be immune to the Dark Place’s memory altering ability. Personally the simpler answer to me seems to be just human fallibility. Jesse believes that she remembers it wrong not because her memory was altered, but because she never found any evidence that the poet was real and eventually just accepted that she must have misremembered it. After all, she’s remembering a book of poems she read as a child years later, and it would be easy to be convinced that you just remembered something wrong rather than believe that reality has been altered. Saga knows him as a filmmaker despite being immune to alterations because she never knew the information before. No alteration to be immune to if you had no info to alter. And Alan is sorta a combination of the two. Yes he knew him as the Poet, but only when he encountered him at Cauldron lake, and the next time they met Zane tells him that it was just a role he played. So Alan believed Zane, because he has no evidence otherwise and the dude himself is providing a probable explanation, along with him dealing with a shoddy memory. Once he gets out and remembers the actual book of poems he may start to suspect that it was an alteration, but who knows.
I honestly would consider that aspect even more intriguing, because if you only realize something has been altered when you have knowledge of it beforehand and an overwhelming disbelief for what the new reality says, how much could have been altered over the years. How many times do they “remember something wrong” when what really happened was an alteration that affected the world and everything else, and just convinced you because you weren’t sure about the truth
1:19:03 That's right!!! I said the same!!! at this point!!! hahahahaha
That is the most insane idea I've ever seen the FBC attempt. And that's saying something
I have a theory that the figure at the end of the Control 2 teaser is Alice Wake at some point in the spiral.
The outfit is almost identical to the one when she unalived herself on tape
35:58 Hope one day Sam contact you asking for small task: check that everything in Control 2 is in line with everything that has been pulled out regarding to FBC's events / documentation / Names, etc.,
Dude I would happily oblige! I know Clay and Sam have seen sonenof my stuff. Just not sure to what extent
2:01:43 “they asked themselves can they but they never asked themselves if they should.”
Yeah, absolutely perfect timing with the Capmbell video and the release of the game. 😀
First thought was that the circles were someone mimicking fairy rings.
Seeing how stupid and dangerous the lake house is maybe someone was trying to summon the fair folk. Wouldn’t surprise me.
Wonder if some parts of the manuscripts Jules (Still think he’s named after Jules Verne.)and Diana found were written by Ed explaining the difference in style they noted though that requires time to be warped somehow. Would explain why Alan sounded a bit off while reading the pages they’re not all him.
There’s a contingent of people whom claim to be disappointed by the DLC and say it’s not good, and I could not disagree more. Its always the people whom know the least of the lore that tend to be the loudest. I love how this is parallel to the events if AW2, while Saga is dealing with Overlaps, Keiran is dealing with her own Mad Scientist overlaps and paint monsters.
I mean there are some design choices I would change, some bugs and not enough combat. But atmosphere, acting, lore and teases of future events is top tier.
The simple fact we get to see a typical AWE response in action is incredible
I don't think Jesse would have an easier time than anyone else. In Control we saw that the Dark saps Jesse of her energy, quickly removing her powers if she isn't able to light up the area and remove the oppressive power of the Dark Presence.
@1:22:07 im sure this DLC is commentary on producing content for the sake of "results" [monetization ] rather than creating something to be enjoyed or made feel.
the metaphor of "PRODUCE CONTENT TO BE CONSUMED"
I wonder if ”cursed” people/entities (Takens and such) are parroting Wake’s pages because they were cursed only because of his writing. So Alan did not just describe events which would happen or only steer already happening horrors but actually fully was the reason these people got their horrible fate.
To be fair, the monday first is the international format I'm pretty sure.
It is. It's part of ISO date standard, which makes sense the FBC use, in addition to metric units, since they are hyper-focused on the sciency stuff.
Monday is also first day of the week in much of the world apart from the Americas and part of Asia. I'd also think this was done purely as a gag to throw off Americans
We Americans just do things backwards to troll the rest of the world. We refuse to use the metric system too lol
29:27 This is the kind of play-through that I was expecting for.
If there is someone that knows all FBC documents better than Sam Lake is you. Or at least understand their organised - bureaucratic way to keep all recorder. A 3 hours video, with a second part coming. I am wondering you barely reach the second sub-level taking notes, and reading all documents founded.
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1:12:10 Poe literally manifested this technique with her song from Diana's office - I guess it´s the key to escape
1:58:21 ChatGPt plugged into the Lake makes me wonder if in real life the AI uses a Quija board.
Don't put that voodoo out there lmao
Hello,
First, I'm glad to see you back once more in the world of Alan Wake, I llike all your content regarding the Remedyverse.
I really like Remedy's work, but I really have a problem with the fact the Odlest House is still in lockdown. I mean, the events in Control (DLCs included) took place in 3-4 days top. So, in this time, they manage to stop the invasion of the Hiss, but after 4 years, they still struggle with the remnants of the attack ? With HRAs and Jesse's abilities ? It doeasn't sound right to me. I really hope Remedy find a good reason for that, and not some cheap ones like "they are stuck in a time loop" or "time passes by differently in the Oldest House" because these come with serious inconsistencies.
Oh, and for the timeline about Ed Booker's abduction, I think it happened jsut after he was interrogated by Sage, possibly when Saga was performing the autopsy on Nightingale. Remenber, the AWE doesn't start before that, as the FBC station in the woods is quiet the first time we go there.
From what a buddy of mine said the events of this dlc take place after Alan emerged from the lake and is back st the lodge with Saga and Casey
@@GamingUniversityUoG Oh, OK. It makes sense, thanks.
Lol, that's the same save point I stopped at cuz I had to sleep. Though I did stay up for the 5am drop of the DLC lol
Lol, me too. I stopped playing to eat and watch the stream
I wish I could have! I was so tempted just to take yesterday off work to play all day
I didn't realize that the Night Springs DLC also had dropped
Haha yeah dude that was several months back. It was a good time.
I really hope Langston's cat is ok.
I’m currently working through the DLC at the moment, but what if Alan’s typewriter from the first game is an Altered Item or Object of Power? Alice bought it for him (or it was in Bright Falls?) at the start of Alan Wake 1.
Yeah Alice bought it for him. The funny thing about the Typewriter is that reality altering affects have nothing to do with it at all. I think Control fans got the wrong impression that it was the OoP and did it all when the Dark Place is where the power comes from.
That being said. Because the fan base is so focused on it and has such strong beliefs that it IS an OoP. Who knows if the fans caused it to become altered after the fact.
@@GamingUniversityUoG I agree. My other more meta takeway (so far) from the Lake House is how larger studios or companies churn through artists (and writers) like how the Marmonts used Lane.
The biggest common factor among TH-camrs, the video game industry, and the larger entertainment industry as a whole is burnout and employees leaving.
This (to me) feels sort of like Remedy talking more so about their previous bad publishers (Microsoft, Rockstar, and Epic games have all had some level of employee scandal around overworked staff) since they’re trying to be more independent.
“A thousand paintings. A thousand more. Art was not art. It was merely content. …Paint lined his fingers…”
No wonder anyone would hate their own medium.
Perhaps Hartmans lodge was demolished to be replaced by the lake house?
I thought The Lake House was the location of where Alan's cabin for the first game was ...at least the shoreline..
Birds Leg Cabin hasn't been there since 1970. It only briefly appeared in 2010 did to the story summoning it into existence. I need to review my notes for Control because I could have sworn it was the lodge reused
@GamingUniversityUoG I'm sure you're right - I assumed because of the name it was built in the proximity of the original cabin(lake house).
50:02 You're not the only one. Yes!! Monsters at Freddy's level.
I love how Ed's writing is just some terrible cliche schlock.
I'll have comments on that in part 2. Might even make a full video which touches on it
I thought the HRA's will be made standard gear for all agents.
They did. But they were built internally at the Oldest House and handed out right before the lockdown. They were not even able to manufacture enough for House staff let alone ship them all over the country to other facilities. Wouldn't be needed since Hiss were not there anyway.
Everyone makes Monday the first day of the week. USA does everything differently to the rest of the world.
46:52 hahah Yeah. Love that video.
My crystal ball told me to get it ready lol
Humans think they are special but all we are is an organic AI, OI. When you look into the basics of how AI works and apply it to humans all human behaviour makes sense.
38:09 Best couple ever!! I am going to book marriage couple session with them next week to improve my marriage : )
35:57 Shut out and take my money!! As I said on my previous comment...that's why I'm here and you are the man!
Wait is this the new dlc ??
Duplicate comment duplicate response
Sunday is the first day of the week
Dawg I love your videos, but you walked right past so much stuff because you were hyperfocused on reading specific documents or looking for things not necessarily directly related to this story
Wait is this the new dlc ??
Haha yeah! It just dropped yesterday
@@GamingUniversityUoG shit man, didn’t even realize it was out . fml