Best New Generator 2023! Genmax 7250IEDC 50 Amp RV Ready! Quiet! CA Legal
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- This new generator from Genmax is loaded with options. Dual fuel,120 and 240 volt switchable, remote start and its quiet for a generator this size. This unit is also CA legal according to the emissions sticker. What are your thoughts? Let me know in the comments and smash 💥 that like button...😀👍🏼 #new #generator #rv #homebackup #offgrid
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Do you happen to have a decibel reading with the eco throttle off? I feel like mine is rattling and louder than it should be.
It can vary depending where you are. But it should be about 60-62 at idle and minimal load.
Ok, the most impressive thing is our man removing 140lbs from the box! Lift with the legs brother!
Yeaaa boyyyy!!! Lol.
And yes I did use my legs! You can see the squat but at the end I was like oh sh*#t 😂👍🏼
Maybe should have cut the box , or get to the gym more often 😂
@@johnnysweekends I bought the way overpriced EU7000is this year, wow, that's a nice unit. Not lifting that one ever! It doesn't even vibrate or wiggle when started and runs at such a nice low idle (around 2400rpm). Obviously a 5500 continuous rating from Honda is a huge underrate. That FI GX390 has the nuts to run a 7000watt load all day if necessary. So maybe not way overpriced after all! Buy once-cry once...and some folks have over 10,000 hours on them.
Yeah I saw that too.
I once borrowed a very heavy 6500 PSI gas engine powered industrial pressure washer from my work to clean my house brick. This thing weighed probably 200 lb...very heavy... I could barely roll it in the grass to the back of my house. A forklift brought it out to me on a pallet. I kind of scratched my head and said how am I going to get this into my Toyota four-wheel drive truck, which was pretty high. The pallet didn't fit with the bed liner in there so they couldn't just sit it in the back. The big 330 lb operator who brought it out to me said move, grabbed it by both ends, picked it up and put it into the back of my truck like it was nothing.
When I was done using it at home it took two of us and a ramp to get it back into that truck.
I recently bought a champion 100719... Packaged on a pallet the lading bill said 244 lb. The generator is 215. I had to cut the box out from around it. It would have been nice if you could have taken the top off the box after taking out some Staples, and have the sides just fold down. But it was all one piece heavily stapled together
It is a nice unit for sure. And FI is a nice feature especially for elevation which will help. Wish it was a dual fuel model as propane is nice for fuel storage.
And yes that’s one heavy unit.
Much like anything all depends wha you need.
Yea anything heavier I would have just cut the box. That’s about my limit.. lol
I got my GM7250iEDC a couple of weeks ago and I have the updated version with a different front cover plate. I was surprised to see a magnet at the end of the oil dipstick so that was a plus. I did the break-in and converted it to a floating neutral. Tested the 7250 by connecting it to my house and handled some appliances well especially with the air fryer, microwave, small electric stove, and small electric kettle. I turned on the dryer and the surge from that caused the home inside lights to flicker but the generator increased idle to compensate. So far, I am happy with it's performance.
Nice but turn off eco mode if doing high loads and see if it does better.
@@johnnysweekends Got it! By the way, I used your Amazon referral link to purchase the generator.
@BMWguy206 wow thanks for the support..😀👊🏼
Keep us updated so we know if its a good unit or not 👍🏼
Oooh, fancy. 50amp plug, dual fuel, AND lithium ion starting battery? It's like they listened to RVers.
Lol right!!! And is a great option for home back up! Definitely
Dammit, this happens every time I upgrade my home backup generator. I bought the Westinghouse WGEN 9500DF last year and then this came out. Sigh. And I promised my wife I wouldn't buy another generator or power bank this year.
That thing is crazy quiet! Like as quiet as the Sportsman 2200 I got a couple years ago. Nice to finally see a propane powered unit this quiet at this capacity finally. And with remote start!
Great review. Thanks!
I know right, it’s like my new phone. But next year the new one is coming with major changes…🤷♂️
@@johnnysweekends seriously. I am forbidden from making any more power related purchases till the Bluetti AC200Max is paid off. Only 16 more months of $100 payments left to go! Curse you, Klarna!
🤣🤣🤣 I hear ya. 👍🏼👊🏼
Waiting for our new power bank. Can parallel with generator
Do another video and let us know how reliable it has been after a year of use. Then we can get an actual idea of the quality . Does it stay similar in quietness after a year as well?
Most any generator will add a little bit of db noise but it’s minimal. About 1 maybe 1.5 db from when it was new. But that takes a lot of hours 500 and beyond.
Most units if they have issues will be in the first 100 hrs or less. After that it’s more the user and either neglect or abuse.
But yes will see how this does in the first hours.
Bought this gen from AMZ on sale July 4 for 1359. Very quite and loaded with features. I was sold on the 50 amp outlet so I could put max amp's right to my breaker panel. This one runs on a 312cc engine, an thing bigger mostly run on a 459cc engine which is more of a gas hog. You don't want a gas hog when all the gas stations are out of gas or no power to pump. The propane is a nice feature too, you end your run time on propane and you rinse the system of that nasty ethanol that will leave residue and give you trouble at the next disaster. For noise, with it running outside in front of my garage I can bareley hear it in the living room, go to the next room and you have to listen to hear it.
Thanks for the feedback! Always good to see any info for future information for me and other viewers 😀👍🏼
How is shutting off the has flow to the carb, and switching the line to propane going to burn off the fuel in the carb? That makes no sense. It's just going to burn propane and not the residual fuel in the carb.
My 30 year old Honda has never missed a beat or been in the shop
Really impressed with those dB readings. Website says 8 hour runtime at 1/2 the rated capacity. I wonder if the engine is quieter or more efficient than a smaller generator running at say 80% capacity.
Well you want to buy a generator that runs in that 30-80% area for you use. Running at 80% and above most times means you should step up to the next larger size. Same with a smaller unit, if you using a big one at 30% and below then you should step down a size. This will save fuel, weight, and overall cost typically.
But some people will buy a large and use it for multipurpose. But a big engine will need more fuel even in lower rpm’s verses a much smaller at medium rpm.
If that makes sense lol
@@johnnysweekends it does make sense, thank you.
For comparison,
a Westinghouse Quiet i2200/1700 is louder than a i4500/3700 running a 1200W charger,
but it gets almost 50% better fuel to KW ratio.
The Westinghouse is the same as the generac 2200 models as well and yes loud. I would buy many others over those. But they are using a Yamaha mz80 motor so they are a smaller cc so a little more fuel efficient till you get to about 60-70% rom range. Then a larger unit would be better.
Hi Johnny. Great video. Wondering if you can do a video on the the GenMax 7250
VS the
AiPower GSX7100iRD ?
GenMax is $1699
AiPower is $1299 or $999 on sale.
Both DUEL fuel, but when AiPower runs out of Propane it automatically switches over to gas by itself!! When you put a full LPG back on it switches to LPG, that’s its priority. Look at that runtime when it does it by itself. Incredible!
Electric start/(2)Remotes and recoil.
It has a 30amp
4 prong and a
50amp plug on the console front.
The THD on the GenMax is less than
5 THD Total harmonic distortion which is good for sensitive equipment.
The AiPower 7100 has less than 3THD which is a cleaner sine wave for sensitive equipment, 3 being better than 5 don’t you agree?
The DB ratings on both are similar, both super quiet inverter Generators. It has a tube to drain the oil and a tube to drain the fuel from the Carburetor, that’s great and they tuck away as well.
The display and its many functions are amazing on the AiPower.
There is no ATS switch like the GenMax has.
It has parallel connections on the AiPower as well, with rubber covers to cover all the receptacles from rain.
120/240 capable as well.
Comes with handle and large wheels to move around.
I considered the GenMax ($1699)
but the price I paid in 12/2022 for the GXS7100iRD
was $999 on sale at Costco free delivery. Now it’s $1299 with free delivery, now that’s a lot lower than $1699 for GenMax, don’t you agree? Please compare side by side so your fans can decide which one they should purchase.
The AiPower has a
4 Year Residential Warranty !
Thanks for all your hard work.
Mike ienuso “Subscriber”.
I have considered this unit before and I have nothing bad to say about Aipower as they seem to have good units as well.
I will look into this 👍🏼😀
Thanks for the sub..👍🏼👊🏼
thanks for the video. Picked one up for camping and home backup. It's definitely quieter than running 2 2kw units in parallel. Noticed the front panel layout is different on mine. Did they change more than just the layout? Handle still rattles along with the fuel strainer and wheels. Fairly quiet for it's size but has a lot of squeaks, rattles and a just random panels making sounds. It also shakes significantly at idle. Power output is as advertised. Jury is out. Going to work on fixing the rattles and make a decision from there. There isn't much competition out there in this size / weight.
There is a new version coming maybe you got a early release.
Over all it’s a good unit.
Keep me updated would you. Always like to know how several of these are doing.
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I just got one of those tiny space heaters. Works nice in the bathroom after a shower 👍
I like them but some people really hate them 😂🤷♂️
Oh, one other thing I would like to mention. He showed that red anodized aluminum dip stick. I have one for my Predator. I thought the darker oil would stick out on the red. At nearly 100 hours the oil is still so clean it's hard to see when I check the oil. I'm thinking maybe the natural aluminum might be better in this regard.
ALSO! Aluminum is an awesome heat conductor. The manual says to check the oil frequently. That's fine, but that aluminum dipstick gets HOT where the plastic one is very manageable to the touch. Maybe put some tape on the head of that aluminum dipstick.
Yes this is true, and most of the engine is aluminum so it only pics up so much but anything is better then nothing. Frequent oils changes are key.
Would like to see the output of it running parallel @50amp. This might be an option to get rid of the LOUD Onanan ...would like to see a fuel usage side by side.
I definitely would need another. Will see soon.
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We bought the GenMax 7250 on the strength of Johnnys review and it's been amazing. We charge our EV6 with it in power outage's and use it with our RV in the desert. Nicely built products. About the same size as the Predator 3500. Would like to see availability of the extended run tank & gas cap for the GenMax..
Awesome Im glad its working good for you. How many hours?? Any issues so far. I like to keep up with products to make sure im recommending products that hold up. Of course any unit can have issues but just like to gather info from everyone I can…😀👍🏼
@@johnnysweekends changed the oil at 1 hour and again at 8 hours. Both times metal so
Hoping next change it’s clear. Spark plug gap was a bit too much so adjusted that back to spec and it runs smoother. 30 hours now and I’ll change the oil soon.
Nice, do you have the magnetic dipstick?
@@johnnysweekends No.
Thanks for the info and show! Need a 50 amp generator, this will be the first.
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You can buy a Pulsar 12KW (9500 running watts) for $1,000. This 7250KW (6,000 running watts) generator costs $1700. So not really a bargain. I've had my Pulsar 12KW for several years now. It ran most of my house (well, water heater, lights, etc.) when we had an 8 day utility power loss. It worked fine and is dual fuel as well.
But it not pure sine wave. It’s also not inverter gen so no eco mode throttle to save fuel.
Twice as loud. No remote start, that’s really that big a deal.
Not really Apple to apples type comparison.
While yours has more power, I can also hears your from a long way verses this unit purrs and is quiet.
Again not apples to apples on these two units
For sure!!! I realize these may have different features, but the bottom line is needed power when required, especially in a pinch. The Pulsar value wins for me in the 4-6 times a year I need to put it to good use.
Agree but what you need…👍🏼
I know you said it was California legal and you’ve never steered us wrong, I just went online to check it from the link lol and Amazon said it would not ship it to my area I was looking for a good home back up generator not too big not too small easy to maneuver.
Wow, I know I just did too.
But it’s already out of stock and I know sometimes that will change the areas it will ship. So let’s see what happens in a few days or a week when it’s back in stock and see if Amazon will allow CA delivery.
I know sometimes they like to make there own rules and honestly it posses me off. Certain generators I see in stores like tractor supply and more, when you go to Amazon says will not ship. Absolutely stupid!!!
I can buy a champion 4650 right now at tractor supply in CA but if I go online it says will not ship. Absolutely bs. So I think sometimes they do a little of what they want.
@@johnnysweekends perfect thanks I will just wait
Great video. I ordered this generator and for the most part I am happy with it. I am however perplexed that the remote start connection to the generator goes into sleep mode. Genmax says it should go into sleep mode after 12 hours. Seems odd it would have it anyway, but mine does not last 6 hours. So in the morning, when boondocking, you cannot use the remote start to get the genny going to make coffee. You have to walk outside and push button start it. Have you experienced this? If so, have you experienced a workaround?
Odd yea 12hrs is what it should be. Weird after 6.
I haven’t used this boondocking as I’ve moved to smaller and smaller units with solar and such.
The units seem impressive. Where would go or do if you have a problem or need a part? This is one of the most important aspects to me.
They do have a parts warehouse in San Diego which they are adding more components all the time. But any new product takes a while to get items. Even like a new car, ford had major problems with the mustang E, which took months to get fixed due to tech and no parts yet.
Now sure that’s a little different but like anything new takes a little time for the parts supply. Now sure you may not get every part but eBay also has parts along with Alibaba, due to many of these units use the same engines and more.
Can you rebuild it like a Honda ? No but it’s also not $5000.
Who is dog monkey
You right. That's why I have a Yamaha EF3000ISEB which is 25 pounds lighter and has emission compliance period of 500 hours versus 250 this thing. Quality is not cheap and cheap is not quality for a reason.
@anthonynicholich9654 but a Yamaha isnt as powerful, nor as affordable. id buy a honda or a Yamaha if they made one like this. they dont.
This brand is interesting. I do have to wonder if they could not even get the correct amount of oil capacity correct in the owners manual what about the big stuff (unseen)?
This is like this with many known products from China. Unfortunately any company can make a mistake in the translation process.
Not just this company but several. Even the battery stations have errors in there manual and more. Or like ecoflows smart generator. Errors in that as well.
I’m not saying the company is perfect and that this is the best thing since sliced bread, but the company is doing well at adding new units no one else has and is listing to suggestions from people. And they make generators for other companies as well. This is there own line.
I wondered the same.
That's a nice unit but I don't see a lot of people using it for their RV due to the weight. 145 lbs empty then add 3 gallons of gas and your tipping 166 lbs. That's a lot of weight to lug in and out of the back of a truck. Are there some kind of hoist systems out there for lifting heavy loads like this into the back of your truck that are portable?
Yes there are many that’s either use a ramp or have small lift systems they have in there truck. And they are not that expensive. I didn’t know till a few years ago and saw a guy lowering his gen unit. I was like wow!! That’s cool lol.
But sometimes he said he leaves it in the bed of his truck and has a cover. Just all depends what he was doing
Get two 50 lb generators instead if you camp. Doesn't matter as much for home back up.
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I am so torn between this one and the 6000 for home backup. Not so much the specs/wattage, but rather the limited Genmax support and no return policy on Amazon. I just purchased and returned the A-iPower GXS7100iRD from Costco as it arrived with damage on all sides (including control panel), but no damage to the box, which leads me to believe they didn't really do much factory QC when packing it.
So this is one of my main concerns with Genmax...the "what if" factor. The lack of support remarks scare me. Already wired with xfer panel, and coming from smaller wattage Wen & DuroMax non-inverter 240v, which have not failed and both had excellent tech support when needed. But trying to keep noise down for my neighbors, and can use some extra wattage, which is why I've been after a closed frame inverter. Honda / Yamaha outside of my budget.
I totally understand, Genmax has been coming out with units no other manufacturer has even thought of but as they continue to build and grow so do there customer support needs. I know when at the show in Vegas this was something I talked to them about. And they said they are expanding that department to fit the needs of more customers. Along with more parts to be able to fix the common items.
Now I know this takes takes and hope they have continued.
The 7250 is a nice unit. Much better than the 6000 in many ways.
I like champion products as well but they have some serious gaps in the product line. So will see what happens with them.
@@johnnysweekends Have you had a chance to see the new Pulsar PGDA70BISCO? Very similar in appearance and (most) specs to the 7250iEDC. I'm guessing these are also coming from Genmax / Dinking? Oddly, Pulsar does not have the 50A 120/240 (only a 30A 120/240 twist and 30A RV), nor battery charging port or ATS. Pulsar also claims a 3 year limited warranty, but can't seem to find the details.... I did reach out to Pulsar for the manual, as the link on their site isn't working, but it doesn't mention warranty. I'll have to ask them again for the warranty paperwork. And the manual shows a control panel drawing with words "neutral floating"; while actual images of the panel are "neutral bonded to frame", so that's a pretty important typo for them to correct.
The pulsar is manufactured by Dinking power/genmax. The make several for pulsar but not all. Along with a couple others
What a beast! This video is rocking the views as well! I like that watchdog power meter you're using in the video!
It’s a nice new unit, impressed so far, will see how it does down the road. And yea watchdog made by Hughes Autoformers makes a bunch of great products along with voltage boosters as well.
And yes views doing better then expected..! 👍🏼😀
Take care buddy..👊🏼
It's amazing that it's 2023 and the access panels and oil fills to these $1,000 plus generators are still so rickety. They need to put some metal latches on these things.
Trying to keep it light. But yea wouldn’t mind it being a little beefed up
Generic question. If it does not say HONDA on it, it does not have a Honda motor. What motors do the other 34 brands of generators use and how long do they last? Granted, you can buy 2 or 3 of the others for what one Honda costs. Just wondering.
If you read some of the comments which that’s up to you, many, many reports of predator, champion, and more roping into the thousands of hours with minimal issues or non. Just basic maintenance.
Remember the user has something to do with your equipment.
And generators like to be used more then sit.
But there is one guy who is off grid, he gets about 4000 hrs on his little predators before they die. Which that’s about the same on the Hondas from a lot of reports. Maybe another thousand but he is also off grid and runs them almost non stop.
@@johnnysweekends Thank you. Good info to have.
I bought a Westinghouse RV ready 30-Amp, 4500-watt propane/gas inverter generator last week as backup power for my RV trailer and spent this weekend trying to figure out how to hook it up to trailers 50-Amp service. It only has the dyer type plug and two 120-vac outlets. I finally found a combiner Y-adapter which plugs into 30-Amp socket and one 20-Amp socket which then plugs into trailers 50-Amp cord. I wished I'd known about the Genmax sooner but I'm gonna keep what I bought because it can be double up with a second unit to create 9000-watts to handle both AC units and all of the trailers needs. Then I'm just learning about these onboard power centers with 12-volt converters and how the 120-volt side is unbeknownst to me, divided in two. Now knowing this I'm wondering just how much of this system will get powered up with this Westinghouse? There is a $600 dollar difference between the Genmax and the Westinghouse gensets. Trying to figure out if I made the right move or will I have to upgrade to an even bigger unit to power this RV trailer I live in full time. This Palomino RV has the plugin's for the solar system but I don't currently have one so I must rely on shore power / generator to supply converter to charge 12-volt system.
Yea the 50 amp service trailers seemed to be wired different sometimes. My last toy hauler could run both AC units from 30 service and would shed power when needed for as the microwave and then boost the AC again.
My new 50 amp 5th can run both Ac units on the generator cord and a 30 amp circuit. 🤷♂️👍🏼
Beats the Honda 3200i at $2600 lol
Lol yea, I can’t believe the price of it. Makes me sad. If it’s bullet proof like the older eu3000is models then maybe but idk. $2600 is just crazy when even then you have no idea if it will last.
I wanted one but I can’t justify that price on a small unit. I could buy the small3500 Genmax dual fuels remote start and more. About 3 at that price. And if each got 2500hrs that would take a really long time. At least for me anyway.
@@johnnysweekends Yea or two Honda 2200i generators.
@@shanew7361 Or 4500 dual-fuel Champion for 1200? 50 amp-240 volt BIG!
Missing from your excellent presentation is testing for pure sine wave output and presence of line noise. Those of us that use sensitive electronics and amateur radio equipment factor these issues in a purchase decision.
I thought about testing the sine waves again. But do you know how many I have seen that are bad….?? Zero… none… even the cheap crappy generators produce a pretty darn clean wave. But no body will buy those if they know what they are looking for.
Every test I did using a friends a couple years ago all produced clean sine waves.
If it’s a inverter generator meant to produce pure sine wave, then it will do just that, or it wouldn’t even sell as it seems everything is reviewed and tested these days.
But if it appeases the audience then I can start testing them and show the results if you think everyone would benefit from it.
There are a lot of cheaper testers now.
Have you seen any units from the last few years that have not passed a oscilloscope test?
@@johnnysweekends No failures but I always scope for sine wave just in case. Line noise is sometimes an issue. Plugging in a small guitar practice amp will reveal noise if any. Thanks for your clear production.
True I do have a amp I could use. But yea they only reason it wouldn’t pass is from the inverter board failing. Which of course I hope wouldn’t happen on a new unit.
The reviews on Amazon isn't very good. Most say support is non existent. Definitely longterm reviews needed.
I can’t even find the listing on Amazon. I know they have been sold out for a long time and another shipment is coming. As far as reviews most of the other large units seem to get around 4.3 stars which is pretty good for most generators not being a Honda or Yamaha.
But agree long term review will see how it does. I also know that Genmax Sales has been trying to bump up their customer service and warranty, so I’m hoping that continues or else that could cripple a company quick.
We just bought a camper last year and this would be an awesome addition.
Awesome what camper?
@JOHNNY'S WEEKENDS i have a 36 foot Shasta travel trailer. I got a killer deal on it. My wife's cousin owns a camper dealership and they were clearing out the 2022 models.
Awesome..!! Congratulations on the new unit 😀👍🏼
We have a 2000 watt and a 3000 watt generator, the 3000 watt one is a Honda inverter, and the 2000 one is a predator
When generators get this big, propane isn't the best option unless you have large propane tanks - especially in cold weather.
Agree the larger tanks would be more beneficial but even a 20lb would still provide decent run times and easy to store propane no matter the size.
@@johnnysweekends that’s the key. Many of us keep generators for emergency usage only. It’s just not practical to keep gas in them or to store enough for a few days run time. Propane makes that easy. For people who use a generator every day or every week, that’s not a factor.
@@johnnysweekends It's the evaporation in cold, not the storage amount. A larger engine can't get it fast enough.
Agree. Plus less deadly on propane. And I like the smell better lol
Rob you’ll need the correct regulator For your set up. Large engines run on propane all the time if set up correctly.
This did fine on my Rv with the on board regulator. Just has to be set up properly
I have an old predator 3500 I forgot I could convert to propane power but I like this better.
Wow that 240V switch could really use a cover. You'd hate to knock that with stuff plugged in.
Yea a cover wouldn’t be a bad idea. 👍🏼
I really like this size of generator . but I am concerned that the engine size 312cc is the same size for all the generators from 3000 to 7250 . I am concerned that the larger generator will 7250 will really make the engine work. it is too bad they dont have a engine inbetween the 9000 which has a 459cc
They don’t use this engine in the 3000 watt models . Only the 5500 model on up to the 7250. Which not extra boost/ start power is provided by using capacitors like a soft start.
I think over all it should be fine. Unless you plane to run close to max load all the time then a larger size unit should be considered
Very exciting. Is it true that the Genmax have a lot of engine wear and thus metal ending up in the oil (like the Predator) meaning engine not lasting long, compared to others like the Westinghouse?
The Westinghouse has plenty of its own issues.
And metal wear can mean many things. Especially if it’s from one video and only one generator .
There are thousands of generators. Now if 3 of the same model showed the same wear then we would have some real data to go with.
It’s like a $100k ford truck that does prematurely. Well I guess they are all junk. Don’t buy them.
Many people have great luck with thousands of hours on predator 2000 watt units and now the Genmax line seems to be doing well overall.
Everything takes time for feedback
How long will the generator run for with a propane tank like that, or a standard gas tank to refill + it's tank already fully
I just wish they would have made it to fit under a hard tonneau cover. Everything else is perfect for RV'ing.
Not many do. The newer trucks are a little deeper though.
Great video. However, m a little confused how you can hook up your trailer to the unit while on 240v. Do you have to modify your trailer to reduce to 120? I have a 30 amp rockwood trailer with 13,500 btu unit and am trying to figure out sizing. Also you said wine running on a 3amp i me only get half the power? So only 3500ish watts?
Thanks for the review. I have two questions.
What is the sound level 23 ft away form the ass end (not the front)?
What/how is the ATS port all about/for? A normal ATS would sense voltage and have a primary feed and maybe a time delay each way.
Larry the sound will change depending where it is and what it is sitting on. As you can see in the video when doing the sound checks if I set it on the grass it lowers it dramatically. But i could do a 1/4 or 30% load test and see what it does in my spot. I mainly dont do the rear even though I did but most people said they would have the rear facing away from where ever they reside. Which I agree but someone will probably hear the back.
As for the ATS, it will have a delay to start. About 30 seconds or so then a warm up of about 30 seconds to a minute till power kicks out of the gen. I should have a updated model Transfer switch from them soon to test. 👍🏼
I bought this last week and so far happy with it! So when I was adding in the oil, i was looking for the oil filter but couldn’t find one. Do you know if it has one? Thanks.
This is a splash engine so no oil filter 👍🏼
@@johnnysweekends ok thanks
Is this one of the more powerful propane, inverter units now available? I'm looking to replace my gasoline 7000W backup generator with a propane one, and I'm contemplating something more efficient. Definitely want propane and inverter; not sure if I want a higher power (less efficient but more capacity to run more things in an emergency) or lower power (more efficient but more need to manage loads).
They are coming out with a 10k and 12k unit soon. So may depend what ya need.
Very good review!
Hope they last the test of time.....tbd but price, performance, quietness, and duel fuel are VERY good!
P-Chi
Thank you. And yes definitely nice to have these choices at a fair price.
I would’ve like to see the load with 1 or 2 A/Cs going
It will handle it with out issues. Two 15k ac units running would be 3300 max watts when it’s hot out or around 3000 when temps are a little more mild.
Nice video. Almost like a Genmax advertisement.
8:07 :O Thank you for caring about tonneau cover owners!! It's usually not possible to get the info on independent reviews
Your welcome ..👍🏼😀 I understand what you mean. Hard to find one that fits with allot of power.
Nice👍 and quiet
I just got the same watch dog and I see you can put 240 volts through it just reading instructions and said 120 volts I’m guessing it’s each leg let me know if there’s anything else I need to do before running 240 thank you in advance
Yes 120 through each leg
Why not do your sound tests on grassy areas like we'd have while camping.
I did, did you happen to miss both sound tests in the video..?
I mainly do that concrete spot since I have done so many there. Gives me a good idea to compare all the others.
Verses grass can give variables from length or even dampness will help absorb.
Your Amazon Link says this generator is a 50Hz, but online from the manufacturer says it's 60Hz. Tell Amazon to correct their page.
Oh interesting, I’ll see if I can help them. But amazon is… well Amazon.
This unit looks almost identical to the A1 power GxS S700IRD that I picked up at Costco for $999.99 on sale in late December. If they have it again at $1299 you oftentimes can ask them for a price adjustment and get the $300 discount Even if the sale is over. The faceplate and the 120/ 240 switch option is a little different, but otherwise this is clearly made by the same manufacturer.
Maybe some similarities but different engine, different switches, different display and more. Definitely not the same but there are some manufacturers who do make other units for other companies and gather some of the same components from vendors who make parts.
the 7100IRD only has a 30amp outlet. vs 50a on tthe GenMax. the watt outputs are same on propane and 100 more on gas. You can only put 30a into your house. All these people with an RV don't reallize the RV's are most all 120v, the 50amp cord on an RV is setup for 2 120v lines. you can not get proper phased 240 with the 2 120v lines if you want to run one for the house, using a RV generator such as the Onan 7500 so you are stuck with only 120 in the house, which means no well or HWH - hate them cold showers.
Ditch the USB port for a 10 amp DC port!
So basically the Genmax is the Hyundai as is Pulsar is the Kia?
You could say that but not all pulsar are made from GenMax
Can you plug in a 1.5 HP split inverter AC…since it is 240 V which can be used in Asian country during power outage…thanks
I don’t know. What’s the start up amp draw..?
You may need a soft start …
The 50amp reciptical on the gen max needs a extender because most 50amp male plugs are a 90 degree style and don't work because the cord hits the generator
I don’t have a issue with mine. The prongs on a 50 amp are long and my cord sits pretty much flush. Some different brands though could be different for sure.
Wonder how this compares to pulsar 7250 ? Can’t find any tests on pulsar 7250 inverter generator
It’s the exact same unit just a little cheaper…🤫
And it’s on a small sale with a coupon
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So technically if your RV is only 30 amp... this won't work because you only get have the power?
Better options for 30 amp rv
I would like a unit that I can use Natural Gas, I have already ran the line to the backyard.
They have two Tri fuel units coming. Mass production should be soon..👍🏼
Seems like it burns a lot of fuel. Of course propane is @ 25% less efficient than gas and drops the wattage down, but is more convenient. If you keep it under 50% duty, it ought to work fine. Very expensive for a no name generator. Does it say what engine it uses (one of the proven ones), or is it a Chinese one?
Fuel burn seems about average especially for a engine this size.
Pretty much every generator has a engine from China. Now I know Genmax has made generators for years for several companies but over the last couple they have started there own. Over all it’s a good unit with a engine from dinkin power which has been around for a while. Maybe not as good as a name as the predator line but things take time.
So will see where they land in another year or two.
Can I run my 30 amp camper with this . Not buying it for my rv but can I use it in an emergency for it. Is there an adapter I need to get ?
Yes it will be good for home back up and can be used for the RV as well.
You can save some money as well as this is the same unit but cheaper 😀👍🏼
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I don't get the line one, line two thing. You just have one plug, how do you know which leg of power you are going to draw from?
One line has 120 volts and the other is dead when switched on 120v when switched to 240 volt both legs are hot providing 120 on two legs.
These plugs follow NEC so single power will be on the left side of the ground is at the bottom.
Hello Johnny, I just subscribed! Looking for your advice on an invertor generator. I need the clean power of the invertor as well as 240 volts to run my well pump. I also want to run it on only propane. What is the best quality unit I can buy that delivers a clean sinewave, and 240 volts via propane? I am a little concerned since most of the brands engines are made in China and the customer service is sketchy at best. Thanks much....watched most of your videos. Nice work
Hey John thanks so much for the Sub..😀👍🏼
As far as a gen , man there are a world of options. Portable like this closed frame or big open frames or home stand by types that start at $1800 or so from Generac or champion that run on propane or NG.
First I think budget…..cheaper always gets you a little less..
Second portable or permanent mount
If you dont need pure sine wave the doors open like crazy. You only need that for some things. Just depends what you are doing.
I Think once you narrow those down it will help get you a little closer. And unfortunately so many are made in china, Taiwan and Vietnam as well. Mostly china including some from champion and generac. Yamaha now and even Honda has started as well.
These are a dime a dozen nowadays. Needs to be Trifuel to be truly revolutionary. They have trifuels at Costco but none that are inverter gens yet.
I wouldn’t necessarily say it has to be tri fuel although options are good. But only problem with NG is the much lower btu’s. But if it’s cheap where you live then it’s a fine option.
Chargers our Kia EV6 at 240V/25 AMps about 32 miles range per hour of run time. 3 gallons = 290 miles range.
That’s sweet. These units are getting better for EV charging for emergencies 👍🏼
@@johnnysweekends We wish it was quieter and Fuel Injected.
I will mention this 👍🏼
Really impressed. Wonder why its sold amazon exclusive?
They are looking to possibly hit the big box stores as well.
So will see
@@johnnysweekends
Hey Thanks JW
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thinking of picking this up to replace my 4500 watt champion. I like that it will run both AC units on the RV and microwave. Can you update the discount code? The one you have posted does not work. Also do you know if Genmax will be ugrading this gen in the near future?
I was planning on buying that championship 4500 watt duel fuel do u recommend this gen over the champion ?
@LuisGonzalez-hk6qf it is more in what you need. Do you need the extra power? Or not. The larger gen is more money, more weight and larger engine which will burn more fuel. So if you need the power it’s a nice option. If you dont the Champion 4500 is a great option.
I guess this generator would have no problem running two RV AC units and microwave.
Yes would do fine unless it’s super hot and on eco it could big it down a little.
Are both ac units 15k?
Yes both are 1.5
Can you update the discount code? it does not work
I can’t because the code was only valid from them for a limited time
Thank you
Thanks for the video. I am looking for a genset like this for our property. Probably need something bigger, but I am interested in propane fuel also. This was informative.
Genmax also makes this unit that is dual dual as well if you are looking at the Genmax models amzn.to/3YUb7xc
Thank you for the great video.
Your welcome 👍🏼😀
Is their such a thing as a big capacitor that can be hooked up to small generator and handle surges like microwave for 2-3 minute when small generator by itself would fail?
Yes soft starts can be added externally and internally to the item needed. Like a ac unit.
Great review! I'm patiently waiting for it to be in-stock, ANYWHERE 😆 I'll be using primarily for home backup and I need to float the neutral. I can make a bonding plug if I ever need an RV type situation. Do you have any info on best way to un-bond the neutral on this model? Thanks!! P.S. Do you have an up-to-date discount code for Amazon? The one in the info area comes up as not valid on checkout.
If its not in stock the code wont work. Have to wait. It normally shows on about every 2 weeks or so. But this model has been selling like crazy.
@@johnnysweekends thanks, I'll keep watching! Did you have any info on flashing the neutral?
I have not worked my way into this unit yet on making it a floating unit. Of course that “would “ void warranty on the unit according to the manual. So obviously something to consider. And the manual also does not show a easy way to switch it. So not sure how much disassembly there would be on this one. If you have to get to generator coil in back we’ll then your looking at maybe a hour job.
I only glanced at it so far when I inspected the unit, I have also not really looked at the wiring schematic to see if there is a easier disconnect somewhere.
@@johnnysweekends Thanks for the detail! I did do some digging on Genmax's FAQ page and found a PDF that list this generator and others and describes how to unbond the neutral. It doesn't mention voiding the warranty but I'll call and try to confirm. I'd leave a link but TH-cam apparently deletes any comments with linked content.
Hi, oh good glad you found a link on it. I was gonna dig around as well when I got some time but in the manual is where it states that modifying the generator in any way would void it. But for things like this I would think not. 🤷🏼♂️
You could just use a different type of TS that doesn’t carry the neutral over. It breaks it as soon as you are switching and you’ll just use the homes neutral as the bond. They make them. But I don’t know what you are trying to accomplish but it seems it would be easier if most gens were still floating. I don’t know if it’s a new NEC code that a gen should be a bonded one now but of course it says do not bond more then once soooo…🤷🏼♂️
Can you get this model in trifuel?
No unfortunately not. Need to move to a larger unit or an open frame unit.
Sorry - I'm relatively ignorant about electrical stuff. My intention is to buy a generator for home backup, and I think this will be big enough for the task, but it lacks the 30A plug most home generators have. Most of the home setups I've seen use a 30A twist lock plug on both ends. I understand there's an adapter to get from the 50A plug to the 30A one. Using that, is that equivalent electrically to plugging into the 30A plug on most generators?
Yes this unit can switch to 120volt and full power out of the 50 amp. But yes adapter would be needed.
Your Genmax 7250ied link that you listed gives you the GENMAX 3500W generator. I have only found one outlet on line for the 7250W. Any idea when Amazon, etc will start selling them?
They have already been for sale.
I just checked and sure enough they are sold out again I guess. When they are not listed it’s because they sold out. This model definitely doesn’t seem to last long in stock. Probably be about a week maybe two before they are available again.
Be sure to use the discount code so you don’t pay full price..👍🏼
@@johnnysweekends OK thanks, I'll keep an eye out for it!
Did you pay for this unit? Or was it provided to you by the manufacturer/distributor?
This unit was provided by the manufacturer.
Some units I pay for and some are provided. I do basic testing and a over view to see if it passes and is a good unit for the price. If everything falls in line it makes it on the channel so people can see if this unit is a good option for them.
Not everything I get on the channel makes it for review as it falls short and the unit is either returned or disposed of it it doesn’t meet specs they provide.
Also some items that I think are cheaply built and priced way to high also don’t make it on the channel.
My power cord has the 30 amp end for 240v twist lock. Is there a simple adapter to get so I can use it or do I have to buy a whole new cord? Great video I love the amp size for my home back up not having to go higher to get the 240v.
Yes they make adapters such as this one if you are looking for a L5-30r twist lock
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@@johnnysweekends wow perfect thank you.
Le groupe que l'on attendais. 👍👍👍
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Do you have a new discount code for this generator?
Sorry not for this model now. It was a temporary code
I really think this is what i want for my home emergency power. My only concern is if it will power a 4500 watt hot water heater by using an interlock switch, please confirm.
So the interlock won’t have anything to do with power, that just locks out the main breaker.
But the 4500 watt water heater.. if that 240 volt which I assume it is, that means it’s probably 4500 watt elements times 2.
That’s 9000 watts total, so that would be a no.
You need a much larger unit like 15000 watts that’s way it runs around 12000 running. And then you use about 9000 watts or about 70-75% load.
But are you going to run other items as well. If so you may need a larger unit even then.
@@johnnysweekends Under 120v the 50A socket can also give the full power. So can supply 6000w running watts for both 120v and 240v .
Correct but it won’t run that large of a water heater. That’s a big electric unit..👍🏼
@@johnnysweekends With the interlock switch I'll control the breakers I will use as I need to keep from overloading. The HW Heater is 4500 TOTAL connected watts (only one element heats at a time), I tried to post a pic of the specs but not able to. Just trying to keep the expense down as the likely hood of needing a backup power is minimal as I have only lost power 2 times in the past 5 years for more than 12 hours but saying that the last time - xmas eve it was 2 degrees out and we had to do some hustling. But to jump to the 9000 watt quite inverters it's another $6 -$700. Champion has a 9000/7250 open frame inverter for 1450 that is in the running but I have not found any individual reviews on it and its loud.
Model #201067 9000-Watt Open Frame Inverter with CO Shield You want to do a review on it? :) www.championpowerequipment.com/product/201067-9000-watt-open-frame-inverter-with-co-shield/
And last but not least I have not seen a single review or post from an individual purchaser of the 7250 Genmax, only you gavin and yolanda
Ahh 4500 total isn’t bad at all. Champion makes good products as well and they have good customer service and support which is important. But I wish I would see a few other models in there product line like what genmax is doing. Now they are newer to the brand name and building the customer service side which takes time, but I like the options they are providing and bringing a good variety. The champion you listed I’m sure would be fine. But 50% quieter is just not possible as the intake makes noise the engine make a lot of well. And after having a few open frames over the years, its hard to go back. They have pros like lighter,easier to work on and cheaper. But I have neighbors so I try to be respectful. If I’m on a farm……….well lol.
As far as the new model from genmax, its just that, new! And I think the first shipment and production run sold out quick, so others should be available for sale now maybe..??? But with any new product, it will take a while to get some real feed back from amazon, from reading comments in forums and more. Those are things I also research as well. Lots of reading to see what others are saying. Some of those you have to read through the lines and is it the buyer who could have been at fault because they don’t know what they are doing? They also neglect or abuse it. A lot more to ohhhh my generator died and its junk. Ok why?? How where you using it? What load? Was a load on when plugged in and more. I try to analyze more then just oh it died.
Hope this helps…👍🏼
I have Genmax 3200, first, it doesn't support 15K AC in my RV, AC can start up and run for couple of minutes only, and then overload and stop working. second: it is very big noise , not quite, I got couple of compliance in different campground neighbors (Honda and Champion both are quiter), it is better for boondooking area, like BLM. third, I have to disconnect CO detector, otherwise, it will shut down in a few mins after start
So curious as to why it wont run the the 15ac unit as that is only about 1350 watts depending on the unit. How old is the Ac unit..? When was it last cleaned..? Did you check to see the loads on the gen with the ac running? What was the watts being ran…?
There is a lot more to it then it just doesn’t run the ac with out further investigation as to why. Hence checks need to be done. Did you try a different generator roughly the same size or smaller..?
@@johnnysweekends I bought it brand new last year for cross country camping with my brand new RV. I did all troubleshooting and cleaning, finally asked China factory for a solution. factory let me disconnect the CO sensor, it works fine, no more turn off automatically, but still can't afford 15K RV AC, factory avoided to answer this question, so I believed that Genmax 3200 can't support 15k AC. it is a cost-effect production if no need AC in camping. I didn't have any other inverter gen, but my camping neighbors have different gens(champion/prediator/honda etc), they all are more quiter than mine
Interesting that unit would not run the ac. It has more than enough power. Mine ran it no problem so not sure. Altitude at all..?
The other gens are good units as well but I cant see the champion or predator really being any quieter unless they had bigger box units.
Thank you for sharing your insights. It’s currently not available on Amazon at this time. I’m curious about the Power Watchdog surge protector, do you think it will somehow protect sensitive electronics when used with a non-inverted generator that’s used as a whole-house backup power? Thank you in advance.
Thank you, I know they were sold out and if in California try Walmart. Amazon likes to decide what they will sell to CA sometimes lol.
This one and the PULSAR PGDA70BISCO look almost identical and its 999 at HD right now.
Wow great price, same unit 😉
@@johnnysweekends just ordered it 😃
Wow nice!! Wish I was a affiliate with hone depot lol 😂👍🏼
Nothing beats Honda generators👍👍👍👍✊👊
They are great but the price is hard to justify now with so many people getting thousands of hours of these other units just like a Honda would. So now where is the advantage?
I know you can get parts and more, but if the Honda is triple the price..🤷♂️
@@johnnysweekends my 30 year old Honda has never missed a beat or been in the shop
Nice. Don’t dare buy a new one because the old ones are tanks. Last for ever. Unfortunately the newer ones are not like the old.
Why didn't you switch the gen to 120v & power up to 50 amps if it is supposed to be able to. That seems unlikely.
If you watch the video it was already providing 50 amps..?
Did you not see that part ..?
Or did you want the load just on one wire? Which it will do it…. But no one should run a full 50 amp load continuously anyway. That is for shorter bursts or a couple mins but not sustained the whole time. If you use 70/80% of the power religiously then you need to step up to a larger generator.
Currently unavailable.
We don't know when or if this item will be back in stock. Comunicate of amazon...
It’s probably out of stock again. It doesn’t last long. Seems every two weeks it’s out of stock and then a week or two later it’s back in stock.
can you use your 50 amp electrical cord to plug in play direct to the 50 amp generator or will I need a 50 amp generator cord?
You can use your RVs cord right into the generator to power up your Rv. 👍🏼
@@johnnysweekends Thank you so much for confirming that :)
Must be sold out on Amazon cant find it there anymore
Again!! Gezz this doesn’t last long when they get them in stock. Like a week and they are gone.
Keep checking. Seems like every couple weeks they are back in.
Where in the world do you buy one? Amazon had a link that said you could place an order and they'd ship when it was available, but no idea of what date that might be. The next day, the Amazon link was gone. I'd sure like to buy one...
They are out of stock at the moment and waiting for more.
Probably another week or two..
I’m also trying to get a discount code
@@johnnysweekends Please let me know when you get a code!!
Still waiting I’ll put a post to when I get it..👍🏼😀
@@johnnysweekends I'm also interested in the discount code when you get it. Thank you!
I think I have it listed.. let me double check and I’ll grab it.
Sounds very impressive 👍
I purchase the 9500 predator inverter and the genmax is alot cheaper and that is good as far as price and it does propane as well
I like the large genmax. Loaded with options as well.
Back again! I’m looking to purchase a 120/240V 50A generator. Do you still think this is one of the best options today?
It’s kinda an open questions…
Do you need 50 amps ? Or more or less
Home residential area?
Area with land and space?
Construction or home?
Gas or dual or Tri fuel
Find a generator that you will run in the 25-75% load range and the rest is for extra once in a while but not sustained.
Then you can look more for what ya need. Open frame, closed frame, inverter or not?
@@johnnysweekendsI just have a 50A inlet plug installed on my home panel, so I was just looking for the best all around option for my house. After watching your video it sounds like I could only get 25A per leg so I couldn’t buy a 12KW generator and use all that power on my home panel anyways. Sounds like 3KW per leg, and this generator looks like it’ll do it.
@eightsix3700 Over all it still is getting decent reviews, sure some negative but I can say that on any brand and any model. I was just running mine a couple days ago charging batteries. Now sure I only have about 5 hours on it but I still fire it up about once a month and charge stuff. The other day was about 1.5 hr run time at 3500 watts just purring. That’s the thing you want something that is over what ya need so it’s not always wide open .
Soooo perfect☺😁 but tooooo expensive 😬😔😒🤨
its pretty nice.
@@johnnysweekends I'm agreed but too expensive due to our country costs ☺😊
How is it with both ac units running ??
Does fine draws about 2800 watts .. perfect for it.
OK, Mr. Johnny, I have some questions. I just recently acquired a 50 amp RV and I’m looking at a generator specifically this one. I understand that it is 50 amp 240 V however do the RVs actually pull 50 amp per side of the 240 or do they only pull 50 A in total but split between the two legs. Because how is it wired when you have it in your house or at an RV park? Is it 50 amp for the total of two legs or is it split. Or is it’s actually 50 amp per leg.
Congrats on the new RV. Ok first…most RVs unless very expensive do not have any 240 volt appliances in them. It’s a 120 volt service trailer. But you need or can use a full 50 amps through the trailer if needed. This 50 amp service would allow you to use both ac units and run the microwave at the same time.
Now it’s 25 amp per side or per leg.
OK now the kicker. My trailer is a 50 amp trailer. But I can run both ac units or any thing in my trailer off a 30 amp service as long as I dont over load the circuit and use more than 30 amps.
This is due to how many newer RV are wired now. Go look on your trailer connection and see if there is a sticker. You are looking for 208Y 240
This means the whole trailer can run off a 120 service or 240 service. 30 or 50 amp. So depending what you need you could get say a champion 4500 and run the both ac units but maybe not the microwave at the same time. So depending what you want you could buy a 7250 genmax or other 240v generator or get a 120v larger generator. Just depends what you need, how you camp and where you camp.
@@johnnysweekends ok I get it now. I think the 7250 is going to work for me. Do you know if gen max is going to come out with a new model for this year or are they going to stay pretty similar with their lineup?
@DigitalJazz there already is a new version which should release soon. At least it should I’ll have to ask.
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Nice unit!
I think so. Definitely loaded with features.
1699 where please?
They are temporarily out of stock but should be back soon.
Make sure you come back and use my discount code!!! Never pay full price 😀👍🏼
That looks awesome.
It’s a pretty nice unit.
Hey. Couple questions. Is there anyway to say on this one currently and do you know of genmax coming out with anything new soon? Thank you
There are new models coming very soon. 👍🏼
Thank you
Why no L14-30 plug?
You need a adapter to which ever style you need. Like this one amzn.to/3WmOWOy