This drama between Charisse and Karen started when Charisse began spreading rumors of Karen cheating on Ray!! There was more to the story but I can’t remember rest of the story!!! Karen and Charisse will never get along because that feud between them was brutal!!
Does Charisse not know she is being used to create drama that Karen does not want and that is why Karen always tries to leave the space or ignores the woman. STOP FORCING KAREN TO BE IN THE SAME SPACE WITH THIS UNNECESSARY PERSON CHARISSE IS A DARK CLOUD!
@@trent_king didn’t Charisse come for Karen about sleeping with a fireman , or something along those lines , she may still be upset about that , I doubt it tho
@@beautaholics1015 No Karen said that. She said Charise thinks everybody should bow down to her because she married Eddie Jordan but she's going around screwing the fireman. She then called her the New Jersey harlot. Charise replied saying don't people say you have a boyfriend? (blue eyes). Gisele claims both blue eyes and the fireman are true stories so i don't see what either of them have to be upset about. Especially Charise her husband wanted nothing to do with her
Funny thing is I think Mia did all this to embarrass Jaqueline because she didn’t want her to get asked back next season but she only made her more popular. We had no interest in Jacqueline when she was Mia’s representative, she’s a lot more interesting when she steps out of Mia’s shadow. And she’s sooooo pretty!
I always notice how naturally pretty Jacqueline is!...there is some type of jealousy there...Myron is one of those people that love you when you're down and out, but as soon as things are looking up for you, a divide happens, cause how dare you live your best life!...Jacqueline was soooo hurt!...loved how Candice comforted her!...Myron is not nice at all!
I feel like Robyn is trying to tease us with a small wedding in hopes Bravo makes spectacle of it to help pay for a grand wedding, and pay her extra $$ to film.. but she is finding out... NO ONE CARES!!!
Truth be told, Robyn doesn't care about marrying Juan either. Seems they have decided to live together for their children right now. I bet if the viewers or her castmates didn't bring it up she wouldn't either, lol.
I feel like this was her mentality too, but it’s definitely not happening 1) because people don’t care lol and 2) with the drama Juan has they definitely wouldn’t do a special for them.
I definitely think this is a ploy for Bravo to pay for their ceremony as well!! Andy low-key let it slip when she was on WWHL a few weeks ago with Gizelle that nobody cares at this point!! It's ridiculous!!
Candiace, I didn’t think I could love you more. The way you tried to mediate that situation and comfort Jacqueline is admirable. However, I’m gonna need you to leave the opps alone cos they ain’t your friends. Let them deal with their own problems. ❤
I will say that Karen has a habit of conflating or recontextualizing issues to keep a beef going, like with Gizelle and the "wishing death on Ray" comment. However, my only guess is that Karen might believe that the only reason Charisse showed up to her mother's funeral was just to get back on the show. If that's true, than that's foul. However, if Charisse was actually being genuine, then that's on Karen. The editing was odd, so maybe we'll learn more next week.
Karen has absolutely no say so regarding casting, so I don't know why she finds it necessary to bring up Charisse just wants to be in the friend group. Seems Charisse is friends with Ashley, Candiace, Gizelle, Robyn and Mia so being friends with Karen doesn't really matter. The only reason Charisse won't get a flute is because she is boring not because of Karen not liking her.
To be honest I think Charisse was being genuine. She really had nothing to gain my attending Karen's mother's funeral. Honestly she made no big deal about it; it appeared as though the two were in deep conversations when she spoke the words. I really think she was only trying to let Karen know that she was indeed a friend she could depend on to be there for her . She however became upset that Karen had this major hate on for her and couldn't figure out why and just started overreacting...I mean it does happen 🤷🤷♀️🤷♂️ go figure.
Karen was giving Will Smith “keep my mother’s name out your mouth”. Hopefully we eventually get an explanation about her disdain for Charisse. Now the Mia and Jacqueline fight confused me because Mia said sleeping with married men was general, but Jacqueline thought she was talking about G.
i think Karen got annoyed that Gizelle lowly said something about how charisse went to Karen's mother funeral. I think that's why Karen snapped. I do wish Karen would just spit it out . I think she is trying to appear diplomatic when it runs deeper .
Either way, Jacqueline should be pissed!...if I knew my best friend had slept with married men or any other secret, I wouldn't air it out, especially in front of people I just met the other day...if you gotta do your best friend like that, walk away from the friendship!...also, Mya should be the one throwing around shit like that, when she was doing it her damn self!
Karen relies on her popularity on the show to shield her from anyone diving deep into her. She’s playing a character. She lied about Candiace wishing death on her by telling her to go to hell. She lied about Gizelle wishing death on Ray last season based on something Gizelle said prior. The reality is Charisse definitely doesn’t need Karen for entry in social groups or on the show. Charisse is friends with Gizelle, Robyn, Ashley and Candiace’s mother. The way Karen has venom for Robyn and Charisse and not Ashley and Gizelle is so strange to me.
Karen is very disingenuous and everything about her seems curated. I mean I understand being on such a public platform it makes sense to protect yourself but I just don’t see ANY authenticity.
Karen does have venom for both lol. She literally cut Ashley off after like season 1-3 I forget but she told her she will never let Ashley around her daughter again and went off on her 😂😂 and paid Ashley dust since then y’all need to start from season 1! She’s also cussed Gizelle out and joined in on her embarrassment at the reunion so…it’s just that they have a real friendship. She was never friends with Robyn, they were only mutual through gizzard. And Charisse crossed the line with the blue eyes comment I guess
Regardless of anything, Karen brought up her mother in that exchange first. So for anyone saying Charisse is foul for bringing up Karen's mother, assess the context and that includes Karen too. For Karen to get triggered at Charisse addressing the mother's funeral is just plain entrapment because Karen set it up to be discussed. Karen likes to be passive aggressive when nothing is going on, then when the pot comes to a boil she starts to deflect as if her antics was not the reason why they had to address the matter at the table.
If Mia bitches at times about the kids being at her house, if I were Jacqueline, I wouldn’t bring the kids at all! She wouldn’t have to tell me twice. Because this isn’t the first time Mia has said something about the kids. Mia is a friend to Jacqueline when it’s convenient for her.
I think Karen is sick and tired of her. She has been trying to ignore her but Cherise trying to use Karen as a storyline so she has been looking for a moment. And Karen doesn' have to explain why she doesn't like Cherise! Some people you vibe with and some you don't. It is what it is.
Karen doesn’t like Charisse because she knows where Karen’s bodies are buried. While them constantly bringing it up, Karen was losing that argument an she deflected. Because she’s a fan favorite people like to over look things she does, but she often does that. She will say random shit whether it’s true or not in order to get heat off of her.
Personally if someone had your secrets you would want to keep them close. And charisse is always saying I heard, the streets said. Can she get tmz on Karen and get pictures or something of her and this men? Having lunch with a member of the opposite sex doesn't mean something is going on. Now if they saw her kissing etc then there is something. Same way when Giselle said charisse was dating a fireman and she said it wasn't true. It was still word on the street and that doesn't make it true. Now Jamal Bryant there are kids born out of wedlock so his situation isn't word on the street and some of the women have also spoken out that they were dating.
Anybody notice that when they show pictures of Mia and Jacqueline, they always show pictures from over 10 years ago, or from when they were kids? They're not friends in real life anymore; they haven't been for a long time. They concocted this stupid are they/aren't they a throuple storyline, while Mia decided to trash Jacqueline behind her back. So I'm thinking Jacqueline got tired of playing that stupid game and had an outburst.
Tbh I think Mia and all the surgery she has done is why she finds those 10 year pics but they were definitely friends from childhood! Her sister(Nanny) confirmed that Mia was a surrogate child to their mother.
Totally agree about the dropping hints for a story line. I think that's actually why Jacqueline made that statement about not sleeping with G...because she assumed that Mia actually went beyond the agreed limit and expressly said J slept with G.
@@mammajamma4397 I mean... we the public know that Mia is a trifling liar who would say and do anything in general and specifically here to get the attention and approval of the GEBs so Jaqueline definitely knows it too. I'm no fan of Jacqueline nor do I feel sorry for her cause she agreed to the shiz with Mia in the first place knowing who she is and more importantly (lol) she came after Candiace so no ma'am *in my Candiace voice*.
I’m on Karen’s side. When I lost my mom, I had a few people who I chose to no longer deal with for valid reasons, reach out with their condolences. Courtesy allowed me to say thank you, but soon after they tried to use that as a way back into my life. And when I didn’t allow that, I was then made out to be the bad person because losing MY MAMA was supposed to teach me to forgive because I could lose this other, non-related to me adult. I’m sorry, but no thank you. At Charisse’s big age, if she’s supposed to be “the real grand damme” she shouldn’t be begging anybody for friendship
I was thinking the same thing. Karen feels like don't used my mother's death to try to get back in the group and if she really feels that was the case I would definitely be ready to shake the table with any disrespectful chic that's using my mother's death that way.
@@lisasimmons5181 and to me it’s not that she’s using the death technically, but she wants a gold star for her actions at that time. If her intentions were sincere, I can understand being disappointed, but I would never say to somebody what about when your mama died as reason all should be forgiven. Not once has she said they tried to talk out their issues. But everybody says it’s because Karen doesn’t want her business out. Whether that’s true or not, if the only thing we’ve shared in 5 years is condolences but every mutual person we have in common is insinuating more after talking to you then that is not a friendship I’d want to maintain
Ladies that was yrs ago with their beef, you have let things go! That did not warrant the outburst of energy from Karen! She too damn old do that mess!
i don’t watch the colorists of potomac but it seems that jackie screamed about not sleeping with gordon because the GEBs (karen included) have been insinuating that jackie, mia and gordon are a throuple. mia lowkey confirmed that by saying the married man line.
Brooke I'm a mother of 5 and if my good friend of 20+ years needed a favor for her children, I'd have no problem with helping her out and if I did find it to be a problem I'd let her know privately. I just don't know what kind of a friend would say "your children aren't my problem". Also when Mia said that Jac was now "feeling herself" it became very clear that Mia looks down on Jac and feels like she needs to stay in her place, Mia has been horrible to Jac. Sidenote if Charisse was sitting between the two of them why hasn't she said what happened and why was Candiace so comfortable sitting next to Gizelle on the plane? This episode was so confusing.
I just don't feel like Karen owes Charisse to say what the issue is when Charisse knows what she did to Karen. One of my pet peeves is when someone does something to me, I cut them off then they pretend to not know why I have an issue with them.
I don't see how Charrisse going to Karen's mother funeral was trying to get back in the group when everyone in the group likes her except for Karen. As usual I think Karen is doing too much.
Mia is a known liar, so I'm not going to start believing her now when it comes to anything she has to say about Jacqueline. I'll wait to see what shakes out at the reunion.
I made the same point about Karen giving Charisse a call to give her condolences on another persons review and so many people jumped in saying she’s not her friend! I didn’t think it mattered. She still could’ve gave her a call. 🤷🏾♀️
When Jacqueline said Mia needed some “dick” - it was so confusing but hilarious the way Candace lifted her shades 😂 trying to understand. I don’t why but that tickled me, but I re-watched that a few times 🤭🤣
I watched the episode and was just as confused like wait what happened. I need to hear a recap from my girl the Brooke Ashley. Love the natural hair and the burnt orange looks good on you.
IMO I think Karen was triggered when they brought up the funeral because she felt that Charisse only went as a means to social climb back into the group since her and Karen weren’t friends. On top of the fact Karen’s mother is a very sensitive subject, her emotions kicked in and went to a level 1000
Karen has no say so about casting. Charisse is friends with the other ladies on the show therefore Karen is a non-factor. Truth be told, Karen was kissing Charisse's butt trying to get cast for the show. Karen was deflecting and trying to change the subject before Charisse said something more. That jumping up wasn't even warranted.
@Chica production cast Karen separately from the rest of the ladies. Charisse didn't know Karen but knew Giselle and Robyn and recruited them when they allowed her go outside Potomac to get housewives. Charisse mentioned this on Carlos kings podcast.
I see your theory.. I get that.. there’s another perspective..Mia said if she is driving a Porsche then Jacqueline will have one too. I can see Mia saying if your sister is babysitting just take your kids to my house anytime. I think Mia may have flipped the script on your friend for the show. It seems like (to me) that Jacqueline using Mia’s resources was their norm and Mia did not showed any issues with that until the show. Mia brought her friend on the show as back up instead she is throwing her friend under the bus! 🤷🏾♀️
I understand the nanny situation for both Mia and Jacqueline. However, I think delivery could be better. Referring to your best friends kids as “ not my responsibility “ can come off harsh. It’s also not cool to dump your kids at your sisters job all the time. Being a nanny is a job. Mia pays that lady to watch her kids not Jacqueline’s kids.
@@ShaeB86 I don't think they had any agreement about compensation or lack there of. Mia allowed it to become a habit and Jacqueline expects it. I feel like alot of the discourse came from Mia paying their nanny, just for the nanny to be bothering Mia looking for Jacquelines children. At that point it's an inconvenience, especially when Jacqueline is free and available (she was sitting right next to her). Mia is obviously bothered by constantly having to overcompensate for Jacqueline and this isn't the first time she's expressed this.
But how do you tell a parent that their children aren't your responsibility, other than saying just that? Jacqueline using "it takes a village" line just shows she EXPECTS support from those around her when it pertains to her children (I.e her sister watching her children for free while she's on the clock for another job and Mia allowing it to always slide).
Now I'm not saying one owes their life. However, Mia was taken in by total strangers not family loved her provided clothe fed and kept her out of the system. It's the gratitude for me.
The fashions at the table were impeccable…..and then there’s Gizzard-neck in a tank top and thick grandma sneakers looking bloated and constipated, and Charrisse looking overheated and drunk. Good God!😮
ThNk you Brooke! Your detailed reviews are so great. I stopped watching the show some time after Wendy was attacked but your recaps are usually better than what we we’re watching. 5/5 stars ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
i feel like candiace and wendy doesnt need to apologize and be friendly to the ones that treat them badly but at least it makes them look soooo much better, i like that for them and i’m happy they at least have the fanbase behind them 💜
I would be categorically pissed if someone used my dads funeral as a way to get a conversation with me for a filmed scene, when I’ve been denying them that conversation. Charisse one upped karen by bringing up something so close to Karen, she is basically forced to engage, which gave Charisse the camera time she wanted. Pretty calculated really
I feel the exact same way. It wasn’t really that she was talking about her mom. It’s the fact that she brought it up. Of course Charisse is trying to get back on the show and although she’s “a friend of” her storyline is about why Karen doesn’t want to be friends. Which means Charisse brought up the funeral to spark up conversation about why they aren’t friends. Hence the reason why Karen got pissed
The way I looked at this situation. Charisse was trying to show Karen that they were friends. To the point that she not only texted when Karen’s. mom passed but actually attended the funeral. So much so even Gisele agreed when Charisse made that point. Charisse was merely saying girl we were long time friends.
@@rayannphillip931 yeah I get that but if we were friends fr you wouldn’t need to bring that up to throw in my face for brownie points. That’s just how I would take it but I get what you’re saying
Charisse was in a interview with Carlos King recently and there was some things said regarding Karen and I can see Karen being a little pissed. You know messy Carlos, he pulled the tea out of Charisse about Karen. I was surprised to hear that Karen was called “The old black lady “ before the show, because according to Charisse, Karen use to go to local bar and get drunk and chase young men. This was in the interview between Carlos and Charisse.
In earlier seasons Karen use to get drunk and spill tea all of the time. It is only now that she has had her surgeries and cleaned up that she took on the grand dame title. She was not that in season 1-3. What happened to the etiquette rules they were all beholden to in season 1?
It's unusual for a gyn doctor to perform a biopsy to monitor uterine fibroids....that's usually done by ultrasound of the uterus and monitoring blood work for signs of anemia . Uterine fibroids usually cause bleeding that gets worse over time. When blood work indicates the bleeding is causing an anemic condition the insurance company will then okay the surgery. Biopsies done repeatedly over time is usually of the cervix and is a way of monitoring abnormal pap smears. Continued abnormalities can be precancerous and usually a hysterectomy is recommended.
It sounded like although Charisse reach out to Karen after her mother passed, Karen heard about Charisse gossiping about Karen’s mother’s funeral. Which for me would be UNFORGIVABLE.
I think Gisele likes old links because they remind her of her of when she was at her peak. Before she turned into this woman who lived for destroying marriages to help her insecurities
I think Mia disparages others to elevate her importance. It’s a character flaw. She did it to her mom last season and is doing it to Jacqueline this season. She can’t stop herself because that’s how she finds her worth.
I just watched RHOM and this is the glamour I would like to see in Potomac. The fashions, make-up and ambiance in Potomac is 🫤. That phone footage in the plane did not look like 1st class seats.
Cherisse has been hanging around since she was fired. She's been cut out of the show but she appears in pics on Instagram at the same events. I understand where Karen is coming from. She thinks Cherisse came to her mother's funeral for a moment. For Cherisse to bring it up again now in front of the cameras maybe her way back on and that's why Karen is mad. Make your own way back on without using me or my mom. The GEB's can't bring the gossip they got from Cherisse because Karen would annihilate them with the same gossip she got from Cherisse and the info she does know, ie Sing Sing and Gizzys real dating life.
I’m thinking that the reason Karen doesn’t like Sharrisse won’t be found on this episode! Sharrisse has been waiting on the sidelines just for the chance to be able to say anything other than the few words she’s been able to say this season so far. TBH I’d rather see Katie come back than see Sharrisse return. She was boring then and she still is.
My 3rd eye is showing me that mia has always "felt herself" for years and she treated Jacqueline like a peasant friend, a door mat, a boxing bag. Mia seems to be the type of friend that's always throwing bs up in your face and crimes "victim" and Jacqueline always comes runnin. I totally agree with you on Wendy and Candice needing to stop comforting these chics who clearly doesn't give a damn about them. That scene had me fuming, there's a difference from being nice and just being plain gullible
After losing a very close love one, if ANYONE brought up their name/funeral in conjunction to an in (IE argument/issue) for your storyline, I would be hella mad. I wouldn't speak to them anymore. Also Mia, if you mentioned my kids in that way I would NEVER speak to them again. On national tv? Yeah, no.
Yaaasss Brooke I love the vineyard!! My husband and I have been going for years and take our boys every August. My favs things to do are get Backdoor donuts, Deltas on the Vineyard, Biscuit, C’est Le Vie, Linda Jean’s, and ice cream on Circuit Ave, sunsets on Menemsha Beach, and Lookout Tavern has the BEST lobster rolls on the island hands down. We are going in late July this year to HBCU week. Have you done Polar Bears yet?
Karen did this before saying Gizelle wished death on Ray. Unless it’s an editing trick, Karen is deflecting again and we’re probably gonna have to wait until the reunion to find out the truth Mia is obviously a nasty piece of work. Jacqueline’s sister said she’s only watched all 5 kids together a few times and they’ve been at both ladies’ homes. Mia falling out with everyone points to something else being behind their issues, even if she does hep Jacqueline out a lot.
Heyyy look absolutely stunning in orange 😍😍 Also I feel with Candiace and Wendy, Just because someone was vicious towards you doesn’t mean you give the same energy back, it shows that they are true genuine people 🙈🙈 💕💕💕
Yes your right on your assessment of the mia/Jacqueline kids situation. But according to Jacqueline's sister (who frequently has live posts). Jacqueline has left her kids at Mia's house with the baby sitter (Jacqueline sister) only twice!!! Tita (I'm sure she's called) spills the tea on how mia is really!! Love your videos @thebrookashley so honest and fair and entertaining. Much appreciated with love from the UK 🇬🇧 ❤️
I like Karen for the show but we can't pretend she's not fake and phony as hell. She likes to pretend she is classy and above it all which she is not, lol. Unless you desire fame, no one classy and rich would bother to get on reality TV.
A text was ok to me. If we don't like someone, we will do the bare minimum, which is human nature, added to the fact that Karen lost both her parents at the same time. She was lucky Karen sent her a text. Some people wouldn't do a thing.
@@serenity1255well we disagree. If someone was there for me when I lost my parents, then the least I could do is call them and offer my condolences and send a flower. Karen likes pretending she’s so cultured, to throw out that she sent a text was distasteful.
Carter CLOCKED his parents’ tomfoolery🤣. That scene sent meeee! And what is the point of getting the boys custom suits for this “wedding”? They’re STILL growing and those suits will NOT fit in 6 months to 1 year. Is she going to memorialize them? Chileeee, I’m sleep 🤣
In defense to Charisse, she explained in her Carlos King interview how she lost two brothers prior to season 1, a divorce in season 2, her father’s death in season 3. Also explained how she was a good friend to Karen.
Not taking sides here, because this beef is so ridiculous, but Charisse should have NEVER sent a video of Karen's exposed breast to a group chat. I would have flipped out.
@@B_da_body Everyone saw the boob incident because they were all there together with the exception of Gizelle. Charisse didn't post it on Instagram. Karen would have done the same thing because it was a private group chat and it was just funny. We all need to stop trying to side with Karen no matter what because she isn't the saint on the show either but for some reason she has viewers fooled, lol.
The weird thing is not only did Charisse take the video but it’s been in her phone for a while!!! It’s not like it’s the next day. She waited and kept it in her phone for some reason!!
@@Aekbonita1986 How do we know when it was sent? This is the same season, right after the Miami trip. It wasn’t years or months later. 🤣. It’s really no big deal.
Mia got some nerve. Wasn’t she boning G in Miami Beach when he was a married man? Then talking about her best friend kids at her house eating her food? The audacity runneth over!🙄
I could never console someone who treated me badly. I would stay out of the fight, but console- no Ma'am. But I think Wendy and Candiace are trying to build alliances. It does not quite work in their favour but at least it reflects well on their character and if they like it, I love it.
I can relate to Gizelle when it comes to Fibroids. I was pregnant with my son in my forties when they discovered that I had Fibroids. That along with me having gestational diabetes, I was lucky to have a very healthy son. I Never had to have a hysterectomy fortunately. Lots of black women suffer from fibroids and that storyline would be a great one for Gizelle.
Possibly an unpopular opinion but I’ve always liked Charrissee. This hasn’t been a good season for her but I’d like to see her back next season full-time because she’s an OG with real connections going way back.
Honestly, I wouldn’t have any energy for Charisse either. Her telling the world on national tv that I was cheating on my husband is enough for me to never speak to her again. That went too far and could have destroyed Karyn’s “institution” and her reputation.
I think Karen does the absolute most to deflect and avoid accountability when she’s in the hot seat. I see it the same way I see a toddler throwing a tantrum. It’s very immature. I believe that Charrisse has some old, stale info about her that Karen believes is still detrimental and that’s why she tries so hard to avoid her. Charrisse is using this info to provide her a storyline by making it a mystery. It’s clever but it won’t hold. It needs to be revealed or buried.
I have three kids. Im on Jackie’s side. Mi was being snide for the cameras. She didn’t need to say “they aren’t my responsibility.” She could’ve talked to Jackie of camera instead of airing her out. She should’ve been set those boundaries before Jackie came on the show truth be told. And she took it too far airing Jackie’s business. Jackie never spilled Mia’s tea.
The hypocrisy amongst this group of women is crazy. Charisse didn’t even say anything about Karen’s mother. Plus, we don’t want to see these older women fight no shade😂
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One thing I'm not seeing anyone talk about is how weird the vibe was when Mias friend came to her house. G didn't seem comfortable with her as if she was actually around all the time? That scene was weird. That mighta been last weeks episode. Lol IDK
I was confused by Karen and Charisse too. I do wish we could have heard the entire conversation because I know it’s edited. Having said that, production has been pretty good this season telling the story, so maybe they were confused too😂. I can’t stand Mia! I don’t like the way she treats Jackie. Her nanny is Jackie’s sister and her sister said Mia is lying! We know she’s a liar so I don’t believe anything that comes out of Mias mouth. Mia is painting a picture full of lies. That’s why her husband is always looking confused. Mia brought her on this show to do her dirty. I really believe that.
I don't know if that is why she brought her on the show, I just think she needed an ally but for some reason things went south quickly. Maybe they have been frenemies for years but stayed together because of the length of their friendship. Of course I'm just guessing.
Karen always goes off when she is wrong and caught in a lie. 1. Hot box and sing sing 2. Jumping up and running to the bathroom when asked about blue eyes 3. Not being a good friend to Charisse, her reaction
They all lie. To be honest candiace is the only person that has brought hard evidence of someone cheating which was Michael and when he was confronted admitted it. No one should be saying I hear you are sneaking around etc if you can't produce a picture or a text or something. Because at the end of the show these people have to go back and deal with their spouses and family after the show and also their reputation where they live.
She really does and Karen knows it. I'm sure Gizelle and especially Robyn knows what it is but won't say. Karen knows Gizelle won't spill it because they have been frenemies for years and she still didn't divulge it. Both Karen and Gizelle know they have chemistry on the show and they both want that paycheck, lol.
@@chica4530 They all need that paycheck! Karen & Wendy maybe not as much as the others! Hate to say it, but Charisse is going to shut Karen up in the final episode!
It doesn't matter what Charisse says to Karen it is going to be a trigger because Karen does not like Charisse and really should not have to explain. She obviously knows something we don't about this woman because she is very two faced to me. I don't like Charisse and don't know her she just seems to drop into things that don't concern her and stirs the pot for no reason. This show needs to just let that go and stop forcing Karen to deal with this person!
Karen knows the deal with the GEB. They want Charrisse back on the show and they want Charrisse to use Karen as a storyline to get her back on the show. Karen isn't having it and doesn't want it. Charrisse did an interview with Bravo just last year and she stated that she can't stand Karen. So she needs to leave Karen alone. If I found out that someone who can't stand me will be on my show, I'd pay them dust and ashes to the grave. Also, the show needs a voice of reason and a mature person to intervene when things go to far. Charrisse can fit that role because Candiace and Wendy have morals unlike everyone else. She can be a flopper like Cynthia also. 🤣Charrisse needs to be the peace maker and voice of reason because we need it on this show.
It's not Karen's show, it's an ensemble cast. Karen can't keep anyone from being cast, none of them can unless all of them agree not to film with the person.
@@beautifulsoulspeaks1366 Like I said, Charrisse needs to shot for the peacemaker role or flip flopper like Cynthia and stay away from that green eyed bandit mess. If she wants to be on the show she should find a lane and a good one. Reading is fundamental at all times. God bless the ABCs and 123s.
Mia seems to be the kind of person who doesn't mind helping when you are good...but keeps score, for when you are not. That's not a friend. Set your boundaries when they have been challenged, not when you are an enabler
Gizelle is so pathetic because she really could’ve used have fibroids as a storyline and how it affects black women but no, she rather be in everyone else’s business.
But Mia’s Nanny is Jacqueline’s Sister. Like Tf? and she has Gordon to watch her Kids, Lol Jacqueline has the right to ask HER SISTER TO WATCH HER KIDS… Mia is delusional.
Basically, Karen was saying to Charisse, "Don't bring up how you came to my mom's funeral and was "there for me." That's not your doorway into being my friend again or getting back into this group. Don't use my mom's death as your avenue back into the group/show." Not saying it's right, but that seems to be how Karen took it and got extremely upset.
We know Karen has been caught in a few lies over the years. She's doing what she did to Gizelle. Remember last year Karn claimed her issue with Gizelle is that Gizzy wished death on Ray? She did the same thing to Charisse, gaslit her saying shes talking about her mother. Same thing Mia did claiming Wendy disrespected her husband. I hate when people do that. When they can't defend their actions, they gaslight and blame people for something they didnt do.
Brooke, I think you missed it. She did explain why they’re not friends. Long story short, cha cha, was attempting to befriend her by going to her mothers funeral - Karen viewed it as an opportunity for Cha Cha to try to get back into the group after not speaking to her directly but talking about her to everyone. Cha Cha also did a couple interviews saying “I went to her mothers funeral” that’s what Karen is referring to! She also lied on her having other relationships with blue eyes and remember their fight in the boat? Cha cha didn’t want to be friends with The Grand Dame! ALSO Cha cha knows that her in back into the group would be to befriend Karen or start mess with her. The producers thought it’ll be juicy but like you said, we’re all bored and tied of it.
Robyn should not be the one talking about Karen iced out Charisse because she iced out Wendy from the lousy funday or coming to her show. Giselle and Robyn are hypocrites.
Didnt Charrisse get mad at Gizelle when she was on Watch What Happens Live and she was saying she was messing with a fireman. That situation got under Charrisse's skin so bad that she teamed up with Monique to get Sherman's ex wife to film on the show and expose all of Sherman's park after dark activities and in the end he dumped Gizelle. Gizelle was heartbroken by that breakup and when she found out who was behind it, she went after Monique (whom she already didnt like) but not Charrisse who knew the ex and set it all up! I am saying all that to say why is Charrisse not understanding why Karen aint fooling with her when Gizelle did it to her season 1 and spent season 2 getting revenge?
I finally tuned into the season and CONFUSION. I did appreciate the cinematic transitions the editors were giving but I feel like there were important moments cut out from both Jaq/Mia and Cha-Cha/Karen scenes bc huuuh?! Was it stomach-gas? Plane diarrhea? Alcohol? But all this doesn’t change how I feel about Jaqueline or Cha-Cha. I agree Wendy and Candiace shouldnt have gotten out their seats but it just shows where their hearts are. Ashley waffling on about that gremlin got me itching (like for why?!) Iunno but this episode just felt choppy like them waves they were pasting into the episode. See you next week 🤗
Karen is the reason why this beef between her and charisse is being talked about. You can see a clear change in Karen demeanor the moment Charisse comes around and it's so obvious but she just tries to play it as " oh I just don't like her."
I think Karen is fine coexisting with charisse, but charisse keeps trying to play the why do you not like me. She should let it go and focus on the other women. Charisse is boring, with no personality or fabulousity. See Marlo as a friend was giving fashions etc .
Charisse did not bring up Karen’s parents. Karen gave the excuse of because she was dealing with her mum’s death, she couldn’t really communicate with Charisse. Then Charisse respond with stating she showed up for her when that happened.
Let’s not forget when Robin deliberately left out Wendy’s children for that dry ass play date event. She tried it. 🤦🏽♀️
Right
Exactly!! Robyn and Gizelle are hypocrites!!
@@TheBrookeAshley absolutely
This drama between Charisse and Karen started when Charisse began spreading rumors of Karen cheating on Ray!! There was more to the story but I can’t remember rest of the story!!! Karen and Charisse will never get along because that feud between them was brutal!!
That dry ass play date was more like an elementary school field day 😂
Does Charisse not know she is being used to create drama that Karen does not want and that is why Karen always tries to leave the space or ignores the woman. STOP FORCING KAREN TO BE IN THE SAME SPACE WITH THIS UNNECESSARY PERSON CHARISSE IS A DARK CLOUD!
Thanks so much !! You explained it best !!
Charise isn't a dark cloud because she's not even really a factor.. NOBODY knows what Karen's deal is with her. The drama is basically imaginary
@@trent_king didn’t Charisse come for Karen about sleeping with a fireman , or something along those lines , she may still be upset about that , I doubt it tho
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No Karen said that. She said Charise thinks everybody should bow down to her because she married Eddie Jordan but she's going around screwing the fireman. She then called her the New Jersey harlot. Charise replied saying don't people say you have a boyfriend? (blue eyes). Gisele claims both blue eyes and the fireman are true stories so i don't see what either of them have to be upset about. Especially Charise her husband wanted nothing to do with her
@@trent_king thanks so much for clearing that up, get me together huni !!
Funny thing is I think Mia did all this to embarrass Jaqueline because she didn’t want her to get asked back next season but she only made her more popular. We had no interest in Jacqueline when she was Mia’s representative, she’s a lot more interesting when she steps out of Mia’s shadow. And she’s sooooo pretty!
I think Mia knows jackline will steal her shine so she trying to put her down
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I Agree
Jackie was mr big foot mia fool and she played the ish out of Jackie
I always notice how naturally pretty Jacqueline is!...there is some type of jealousy there...Myron is one of those people that love you when you're down and out, but as soon as things are looking up for you, a divide happens, cause how dare you live your best life!...Jacqueline was soooo hurt!...loved how Candice comforted her!...Myron is not nice at all!
Karen was trying to avoid talking about the real issues with Charissa, that why she deflected. Karen has always done things like this.
I feel like Robyn is trying to tease us with a small wedding in hopes Bravo makes spectacle of it to help pay for a grand wedding, and pay her extra $$ to film.. but she is finding out... NO ONE CARES!!!
Truth be told, Robyn doesn't care about marrying Juan either. Seems they have decided to live together for their children right now. I bet if the viewers or her castmates didn't bring it up she wouldn't either, lol.
I feel like this was her mentality too, but it’s definitely not happening 1) because people don’t care lol and 2) with the drama Juan has they definitely wouldn’t do a special for them.
I agree
She’s 2 years too late for that. I feel like she definitely missed the opportunity to shop a wedding spin off
I definitely think this is a ploy for Bravo to pay for their ceremony as well!! Andy low-key let it slip when she was on WWHL a few weeks ago with Gizelle that nobody cares at this point!! It's ridiculous!!
Candiace, I didn’t think I could love you more. The way you tried to mediate that situation and comfort Jacqueline is admirable. However, I’m gonna need you to leave the opps alone cos they ain’t your friends. Let them deal with their own problems. ❤
I will say that Karen has a habit of conflating or recontextualizing issues to keep a beef going, like with Gizelle and the "wishing death on Ray" comment.
However, my only guess is that Karen might believe that the only reason Charisse showed up to her mother's funeral was just to get back on the show.
If that's true, than that's foul. However, if Charisse was actually being genuine, then that's on Karen. The editing was odd, so maybe we'll learn more next week.
And her mum died like 4/5 years ago. So Karen isn’t even making sense
Karen has absolutely no say so regarding casting, so I don't know why she finds it necessary to bring up Charisse just wants to be in the friend group. Seems Charisse is friends with Ashley, Candiace, Gizelle, Robyn and Mia so being friends with Karen doesn't really matter. The only reason Charisse won't get a flute is because she is boring not because of Karen not liking her.
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To be honest I think Charisse was being genuine. She really had nothing to gain my attending Karen's mother's funeral. Honestly she made no big deal about it; it appeared as though the two were in deep conversations when she spoke the words. I really think she was only trying to let Karen know that she was indeed a friend she could depend on to be there for her . She however became upset that Karen had this major hate on for her and couldn't figure out why and just started overreacting...I mean it does happen 🤷🤷♀️🤷♂️ go figure.
Karen was giving Will Smith “keep my mother’s name out your mouth”. Hopefully we eventually get an explanation about her disdain for Charisse. Now the Mia and Jacqueline fight confused me because Mia said sleeping with married men was general, but Jacqueline thought she was talking about G.
Mia says anything true or false. If the goal was to make Jackie look bad then she would say anything
i think Karen got annoyed that Gizelle lowly said something about how charisse went to Karen's mother funeral. I think that's why Karen snapped. I do wish Karen would just spit it out . I think she is trying to appear diplomatic when it runs deeper .
With her reaction, there's obviously something fishy going on....
I think Karen is still mad about the Mr. Blue Eyes comment
Either way, Jacqueline should be pissed!...if I knew my best friend had slept with married men or any other secret, I wouldn't air it out, especially in front of people I just met the other day...if you gotta do your best friend like that, walk away from the friendship!...also, Mya should be the one throwing around shit like that, when she was doing it her damn self!
Karen relies on her popularity on the show to shield her from anyone diving deep into her. She’s playing a character. She lied about Candiace wishing death on her by telling her to go to hell. She lied about Gizelle wishing death on Ray last season based on something Gizelle said prior. The reality is Charisse definitely doesn’t need Karen for entry in social groups or on the show. Charisse is friends with Gizelle, Robyn, Ashley and Candiace’s mother.
The way Karen has venom for Robyn and Charisse and not Ashley and Gizelle is so strange to me.
Thank you 👏🏿
Karen is very disingenuous and everything about her seems curated. I mean I understand being on such a public platform it makes sense to protect yourself but I just don’t see ANY authenticity.
Exactly!
I agree!!! 🎯🎯🎯
Karen does have venom for both lol. She literally cut Ashley off after like season 1-3 I forget but she told her she will never let Ashley around her daughter again and went off on her 😂😂 and paid Ashley dust since then y’all need to start from season 1!
She’s also cussed Gizelle out and joined in on her embarrassment at the reunion so…it’s just that they have a real friendship. She was never friends with Robyn, they were only mutual through gizzard. And Charisse crossed the line with the blue eyes comment I guess
Regardless of anything, Karen brought up her mother in that exchange first. So for anyone saying Charisse is foul for bringing up Karen's mother, assess the context and that includes Karen too. For Karen to get triggered at Charisse addressing the mother's funeral is just plain entrapment because Karen set it up to be discussed.
Karen likes to be passive aggressive when nothing is going on, then when the pot comes to a boil she starts to deflect as if her antics was not the reason why they had to address the matter at the table.
If Mia bitches at times about the kids being at her house, if I were Jacqueline, I wouldn’t bring the kids at all! She wouldn’t have to tell me twice. Because this isn’t the first time Mia has said something about the kids. Mia is a friend to Jacqueline when it’s convenient for her.
I think Karen is sick and tired of her. She has been trying to ignore her but Cherise trying to use Karen as a storyline so she has been looking for a moment.
And Karen doesn' have to explain why she doesn't like Cherise! Some people you vibe with and some you don't. It is what it is.
Well said
Gizzy has a Range Rover, and no Bluetooth?? Com’ on sis! Hook that phone up!
Girl it's prolly a rental or Jamal's vehicle bc there's absolutely no way your phone ain't connected to your own car.
@@cynthiamormon6263 Right!! 🤣
Karen doesn’t like Charisse because she knows where Karen’s bodies are buried. While them constantly bringing it up, Karen was losing that argument an she deflected. Because she’s a fan favorite people like to over look things she does, but she often does that. She will say random shit whether it’s true or not in order to get heat off of her.
lol do you watch Rodney?
@@yendaaaa I sure do. Nd I was yelling at my tv when he said it lol Karen been doing this shit since season 1
Personally if someone had your secrets you would want to keep them close. And charisse is always saying I heard, the streets said. Can she get tmz on Karen and get pictures or something of her and this men? Having lunch with a member of the opposite sex doesn't mean something is going on. Now if they saw her kissing etc then there is something. Same way when Giselle said charisse was dating a fireman and she said it wasn't true. It was still word on the street and that doesn't make it true. Now Jamal Bryant there are kids born out of wedlock so his situation isn't word on the street and some of the women have also spoken out that they were dating.
karen is a fraud
@@yendaaaa big fan of the long-winded heaux❤
Karen and Charrise were activated ! Slamming tables and everything, I know they were worn out 😂
Anybody notice that when they show pictures of Mia and Jacqueline, they always show pictures from over 10 years ago, or from when they were kids? They're not friends in real life anymore; they haven't been for a long time.
They concocted this stupid are they/aren't they a throuple storyline, while Mia decided to trash Jacqueline behind her back. So I'm thinking Jacqueline got tired of playing that stupid game and had an outburst.
Tbh I think Mia and all the surgery she has done is why she finds those 10 year pics but they were definitely friends from childhood! Her sister(Nanny) confirmed that Mia was a surrogate child to their mother.
Well said
Totally agree about the dropping hints for a story line. I think that's actually why Jacqueline made that statement about not sleeping with G...because she assumed that Mia actually went beyond the agreed limit and expressly said J slept with G.
@@RS-pf6sk exactly!!
@@mammajamma4397 I mean... we the public know that Mia is a trifling liar who would say and do anything in general and specifically here to get the attention and approval of the GEBs so Jaqueline definitely knows it too. I'm no fan of Jacqueline nor do I feel sorry for her cause she agreed to the shiz with Mia in the first place knowing who she is and more importantly (lol) she came after Candiace so no ma'am *in my Candiace voice*.
I’m on Karen’s side. When I lost my mom, I had a few people who I chose to no longer deal with for valid reasons, reach out with their condolences. Courtesy allowed me to say thank you, but soon after they tried to use that as a way back into my life. And when I didn’t allow that, I was then made out to be the bad person because losing MY MAMA was supposed to teach me to forgive because I could lose this other, non-related to me adult. I’m sorry, but no thank you. At Charisse’s big age, if she’s supposed to be “the real grand damme” she shouldn’t be begging anybody for friendship
I was thinking the same thing. Karen feels like don't used my mother's death to try to get back in the group and if she really feels that was the case I would definitely be ready to shake the table with any disrespectful chic that's using my mother's death that way.
Even though I’m not the biggest Karen fan, I’m on her side too. Why are they so insistent on her rehashing beef with Charisse.
Yeah but thay was a bit much. She's upset with Charise so anything she says wud make her angry. Karen was wrong for that.
@@lisasimmons5181 and to me it’s not that she’s using the death technically, but she wants a gold star for her actions at that time. If her intentions were sincere, I can understand being disappointed, but I would never say to somebody what about when your mama died as reason all should be forgiven. Not once has she said they tried to talk out their issues. But everybody says it’s because Karen doesn’t want her business out. Whether that’s true or not, if the only thing we’ve shared in 5 years is condolences but every mutual person we have in common is insinuating more after talking to you then that is not a friendship I’d want to maintain
Ladies that was yrs ago with their beef, you have let things go! That did not warrant the outburst of energy from Karen! She too damn old do that mess!
i don’t watch the colorists of potomac but it seems that jackie screamed about not sleeping with gordon because the GEBs (karen included) have been insinuating that jackie, mia and gordon are a throuple. mia lowkey confirmed that by saying the married man line.
Girl, sounds fake and phony and made up for attention. Makes no sense at all.
@@kat64470 lol that too, girl! mia’s a known liar. i wouldn’t be surprised if they’re making all this up to have a storyline.
Colorists of potomac 🤣 good one
Brooke I'm a mother of 5 and if my good friend of 20+ years needed a favor for her children, I'd have no problem with helping her out and if I did find it to be a problem I'd let her know privately. I just don't know what kind of a friend would say "your children aren't my problem". Also when Mia said that Jac was now "feeling herself" it became very clear that Mia looks down on Jac and feels like she needs to stay in her place, Mia has been horrible to Jac. Sidenote if Charisse was sitting between the two of them why hasn't she said what happened and why was Candiace so comfortable sitting next to Gizelle on the plane? This episode was so confusing.
I am also confused about Jacquline saying "I would never sleep with your husband", when Mia said close your legs to married men in GENERAL...
I just don't feel like Karen owes Charisse to say what the issue is when Charisse knows what she did to Karen. One of my pet peeves is when someone does something to me, I cut them off then they pretend to not know why I have an issue with them.
I don't see how Charrisse going to Karen's mother funeral was trying to get back in the group when everyone in the group likes her except for Karen. As usual I think Karen is doing too much.
Mia is a known liar, so I'm not going to start believing her now when it comes to anything she has to say about Jacqueline. I'll wait to see what shakes out at the reunion.
I made the same point about Karen giving Charisse a call to give her condolences on another persons review and so many people jumped in saying she’s not her friend! I didn’t think it mattered. She still could’ve gave her a call. 🤷🏾♀️
When Jacqueline said Mia needed some “dick” - it was so confusing but hilarious the way Candace lifted her shades 😂 trying to understand. I don’t why but that tickled me, but I re-watched that a few times 🤭🤣
😂😂😂 yes
I watched the episode and was just as confused like wait what happened. I need to hear a recap from my girl the Brooke Ashley. Love the natural hair and the burnt orange looks good on you.
IMO I think Karen was triggered when they brought up the funeral because she felt that Charisse only went as a means to social climb back into the group since her and Karen weren’t friends. On top of the fact Karen’s mother is a very sensitive subject, her emotions kicked in and went to a level 1000
Karen has no say so about casting. Charisse is friends with the other ladies on the show therefore Karen is a non-factor. Truth be told, Karen was kissing Charisse's butt trying to get cast for the show. Karen was deflecting and trying to change the subject before Charisse said something more. That jumping up wasn't even warranted.
@Chica production cast Karen separately from the rest of the ladies. Charisse didn't know Karen but knew Giselle and Robyn and recruited them when they allowed her go outside Potomac to get housewives. Charisse mentioned this on Carlos kings podcast.
I see your theory.. I get that.. there’s another perspective..Mia said if she is driving a Porsche then Jacqueline will have one too. I can see Mia saying if your sister is babysitting just take your kids to my house anytime. I think Mia may have flipped the script on your friend for the show. It seems like (to me) that Jacqueline using Mia’s resources was their norm and Mia did not showed any issues with that until the show. Mia brought her friend on the show as back up instead she is throwing her friend under the bus! 🤷🏾♀️
Karen knows that the moment she says Charisse has no chance of friendship with her Charisse is going to blow up her secrets “with a reason”
I understand the nanny situation for both Mia and Jacqueline. However, I think delivery could be better. Referring to your best friends kids as “ not my responsibility “ can come off harsh. It’s also not cool to dump your kids at your sisters job all the time. Being a nanny is a job. Mia pays that lady to watch her kids not Jacqueline’s kids.
i agree, but if jacqueline's sister is ok with and theyve agreed to whatever compensation for her taking on the extra kids then mia should've chilled.
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Why get upset when someone utilizes the resources that you told them they could use whenever they needed.
@@ShaeB86 I don't think they had any agreement about compensation or lack there of. Mia allowed it to become a habit and Jacqueline expects it. I feel like alot of the discourse came from Mia paying their nanny, just for the nanny to be bothering Mia looking for Jacquelines children. At that point it's an inconvenience, especially when Jacqueline is free and available (she was sitting right next to her). Mia is obviously bothered by constantly having to overcompensate for Jacqueline and this isn't the first time she's expressed this.
But how do you tell a parent that their children aren't your responsibility, other than saying just that? Jacqueline using "it takes a village" line just shows she EXPECTS support from those around her when it pertains to her children (I.e her sister watching her children for free while she's on the clock for another job and Mia allowing it to always slide).
Now I'm not saying one owes their life. However, Mia was taken in by total strangers not family loved her provided clothe fed and kept her out of the system. It's the gratitude for me.
The fashions at the table were impeccable…..and then there’s Gizzard-neck in a tank top and thick grandma sneakers looking bloated and constipated, and Charrisse looking overheated and drunk. Good God!😮
Didn’t she. Gizzard looked so bloated! Good gawd!
😂😂😂 The way I just laughed out loud. 🤣🤣🤣
@@frontoftheline9578 laughter is the best medicine. But you see what I mean right?😂😂😂😂
ThNk you Brooke! Your detailed reviews are so great. I stopped watching the show some time after Wendy was attacked but your recaps are usually better than what we we’re watching. 5/5 stars ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Thank you!! 💕
i feel like candiace and wendy doesnt need to apologize and be friendly to the ones that treat them badly but at least it makes them look soooo much better, i like that for them and i’m happy they at least have the fanbase behind them 💜
I would be categorically pissed if someone used my dads funeral as a way to get a conversation with me for a filmed scene, when I’ve been denying them that conversation. Charisse one upped karen by bringing up something so close to Karen, she is basically forced to engage, which gave Charisse the camera time she wanted. Pretty calculated really
I feel the exact same way. It wasn’t really that she was talking about her mom. It’s the fact that she brought it up. Of course Charisse is trying to get back on the show and although she’s “a friend of” her storyline is about why Karen doesn’t want to be friends. Which means Charisse brought up the funeral to spark up conversation about why they aren’t friends. Hence the reason why Karen got pissed
Exactly
The way I looked at this situation. Charisse was trying
to show Karen that they were friends. To the point that she not only texted when Karen’s.
mom passed but actually attended the funeral. So much so even Gisele agreed when Charisse made that point. Charisse was merely saying girl we were long time friends.
@@rayannphillip931 yeah I get that but if we were friends fr you wouldn’t need to bring that up to throw in my face for brownie points. That’s just how I would take it but I get what you’re saying
@@jessika_katrine she didn’t bring it up though, Karen brought up her mother’s passing and Charisse said she was there for her. Karen is FOS.
It was not Mia's idea to bring Jacqueline on show it was another cast mate but she wouldn't give name, the real reason Mia is mad
Karen interjects her mother's death when she's confronted about something she doesn't want to deal with. It's one of her defense mechanisms.
Yep
Charisse was in a interview with Carlos King recently and there was some things said regarding Karen and I can see Karen being a little pissed. You know messy Carlos, he pulled the tea out of Charisse about Karen. I was surprised to hear that Karen was called “The old black lady “ before the show, because according to Charisse, Karen use to go to local bar and get drunk and chase young men. This was in the interview between Carlos and Charisse.
Eww whooo who who ~ in my Sheree voice
In earlier seasons Karen use to get drunk and spill tea all of the time. It is only now that she has had her surgeries and cleaned up that she took on the grand dame title. She was not that in season 1-3. What happened to the etiquette rules they were all beholden to in season 1?
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This time she was writing on 5 sticky notes. 😂 9:26
If my nanny was also the aunt of those children then I would have nothing to say how are you going to tell somebody they can’t watch their own family
Listen, I was sooo confused too…it’s giving deflection because Karen doesn’t want Charisse to reveal the real tea.
It sounded like although Charisse reach out to Karen after her mother passed, Karen heard about Charisse gossiping about Karen’s mother’s funeral. Which for me would be UNFORGIVABLE.
I think Gisele likes old links because they remind her of her of when she was at her peak. Before she turned into this woman who lived for destroying marriages to help her insecurities
I think Mia disparages others to elevate her importance. It’s a character flaw. She did it to her mom last season and is doing it to Jacqueline this season. She can’t stop herself because that’s how she finds her worth.
I agree!! Mia has very low self esteem and is extremely insecure!!!
I just watched RHOM and this is the glamour I would like to see in Potomac. The fashions, make-up and ambiance in Potomac is 🫤. That phone footage in the plane did not look like 1st class seats.
It was a drawing with their faces posted on it. I don't think it was them in 1st Class per se.
Cherisse has been hanging around since she was fired. She's been cut out of the show but she appears in pics on Instagram at the same events. I understand where Karen is coming from. She thinks Cherisse came to her mother's funeral for a moment. For Cherisse to bring it up again now in front of the cameras maybe her way back on and that's why Karen is mad. Make your own way back on without using me or my mom. The GEB's can't bring the gossip they got from Cherisse because Karen would annihilate them with the same gossip she got from Cherisse and the info she does know, ie Sing Sing and Gizzys real dating life.
hello !
I’m thinking that the reason Karen doesn’t like Sharrisse won’t be found on this episode! Sharrisse has been waiting on the sidelines just for the chance to be able to say anything other than the few words she’s been able to say this season so far. TBH I’d rather see Katie come back than see Sharrisse return. She was boring then and she still is.
My 3rd eye is showing me that mia has always "felt herself" for years and she treated Jacqueline like a peasant friend, a door mat, a boxing bag. Mia seems to be the type of friend that's always throwing bs up in your face and crimes "victim" and Jacqueline always comes runnin.
I totally agree with you on Wendy and Candice needing to stop comforting these chics who clearly doesn't give a damn about them. That scene had me fuming, there's a difference from being nice and just being plain gullible
I think Karen is just so tired of Charisse trying to have a moment with her that Karen just went ahead and gave her a moment lol
After losing a very close love one, if ANYONE brought up their name/funeral in conjunction to an in (IE argument/issue) for your storyline, I would be hella mad. I wouldn't speak to them anymore. Also Mia, if you mentioned my kids in that way I would NEVER speak to them again. On national tv? Yeah, no.
Yaaasss Brooke I love the vineyard!! My husband and I have been going for years and take our boys every August. My favs things to do are get Backdoor donuts, Deltas on the Vineyard, Biscuit, C’est Le Vie, Linda Jean’s, and ice cream on Circuit Ave, sunsets on Menemsha Beach, and Lookout Tavern has the BEST lobster rolls on the island hands down. We are going in late July this year to HBCU week. Have you done Polar Bears yet?
Karen did this before saying Gizelle wished death on Ray. Unless it’s an editing trick, Karen is deflecting again and we’re probably gonna have to wait until the reunion to find out the truth
Mia is obviously a nasty piece of work. Jacqueline’s sister said she’s only watched all 5 kids together a few times and they’ve been at both ladies’ homes. Mia falling out with everyone points to something else being behind their issues, even if she does hep Jacqueline out a lot.
You are so right how did Karen go from zero to a hundred 💯 talking about her mother seemingly out of the blue 💙 sky I was totally lost
Heyyy look absolutely stunning in orange 😍😍
Also I feel with Candiace and Wendy, Just because someone was vicious towards you doesn’t mean you give the same energy back, it shows that they are true genuine people 🙈🙈
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Also Kathy liked my picture on Instagram few weeks ago and I was shook 😭😭😭😭 🙈🙈🙈🙈
Thanks Brooke great recap - love the detail as I don’t watch the show I just watch your recaps!!! 🙏❤️🇬🇧
Yes your right on your assessment of the mia/Jacqueline kids situation. But according to Jacqueline's sister (who frequently has live posts). Jacqueline has left her kids at Mia's house with the baby sitter (Jacqueline sister) only twice!!! Tita (I'm sure she's called) spills the tea on how mia is really!! Love your videos @thebrookashley so honest and fair and entertaining. Much appreciated with love from the UK 🇬🇧 ❤️
Karen could’ve at least sent some flowers. She talks about being the Grand Dame and having class, and taste.
I like Karen for the show but we can't pretend she's not fake and phony as hell. She likes to pretend she is classy and above it all which she is not, lol. Unless you desire fame, no one classy and rich would bother to get on reality TV.
I agree!!!!
A text was ok to me. If we don't like someone, we will do the bare minimum, which is human nature, added to the fact that Karen lost both her parents at the same time. She was lucky Karen sent her a text. Some people wouldn't do a thing.
@@serenity1255well we disagree. If someone was there for me when I lost my parents, then the least I could do is call them and offer my condolences and send a flower. Karen likes pretending she’s so cultured, to throw out that she sent a text was distasteful.
She offered to send flowers sooo 🤷🏽♀️
The Beautiful Brooke Ashley! 🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿
Carter CLOCKED his parents’ tomfoolery🤣. That scene sent meeee! And what is the point of getting the boys custom suits for this “wedding”? They’re STILL growing and those suits will NOT fit in 6 months to 1 year. Is she going to memorialize them? Chileeee, I’m sleep 🤣
In defense to Charisse, she explained in her Carlos King interview how she lost two brothers prior to season 1, a divorce in season 2, her father’s death in season 3. Also explained how she was a good friend to Karen.
Charise doesn't need a defense she needs a makeover
And how is calling her the drunk old blaq lady being a good friend? 😂
@@trent_king yo lol
SO. Leave Karen alone she wants nothing to do with her.
But she just said last year in an interview, I think with BravoTV, that she cannot stand Karen. So why now is she seemingly retracting that?
Not taking sides here, because this beef is so ridiculous, but Charisse should have NEVER sent a video of Karen's exposed breast to a group chat. I would have flipped out.
Thank you! I feel like that’s being glossed over
@@B_da_body she's too damn old to do stuff like that.
@@B_da_body Everyone saw the boob incident because they were all there together with the exception of Gizelle. Charisse didn't post it on Instagram. Karen would have done the same thing because it was a private group chat and it was just funny. We all need to stop trying to side with Karen no matter what because she isn't the saint on the show either but for some reason she has viewers fooled, lol.
The weird thing is not only did Charisse take the video but it’s been in her phone for a while!!! It’s not like it’s the next day. She waited and kept it in her phone for some reason!!
@@Aekbonita1986 How do we know when it was sent? This is the same season, right after the Miami trip. It wasn’t years or months later. 🤣. It’s really no big deal.
Mia got some nerve. Wasn’t she boning G in Miami Beach when he was a married man? Then talking about her best friend kids at her house eating her food? The audacity runneth over!🙄
Why would I get upset at her for us8ng the very tools I told her to use.
I could never console someone who treated me badly. I would stay out of the fight, but console- no Ma'am. But I think Wendy and Candiace are trying to build alliances. It does not quite work in their favour but at least it reflects well on their character and if they like it, I love it.
Befriending the enemy is being messy. I believe they do it to find out more dirt on the situation.
I can relate to Gizelle when it comes to Fibroids. I was pregnant with my son in my forties when they discovered that I had Fibroids. That along with me having gestational diabetes, I was lucky to have a very healthy son. I Never had to have a hysterectomy fortunately. Lots of black women suffer from fibroids and that storyline would be a great one for Gizelle.
I can relate to Gizelle about the fibroids as well. I've had two myomectomies and it's very painful.
Possibly an unpopular opinion but I’ve always liked Charrissee. This hasn’t been a good season for her but I’d like to see her back next season full-time because she’s an OG with real connections going way back.
Honestly, I wouldn’t have any energy for Charisse either. Her telling the world on national tv that I was cheating on my husband is enough for me to never speak to her again. That went too far and could have destroyed Karyn’s “institution” and her reputation.
I think Karen does the absolute most to deflect and avoid accountability when she’s in the hot seat. I see it the same way I see a toddler throwing a tantrum. It’s very immature. I believe that Charrisse has some old, stale info about her that Karen believes is still detrimental and that’s why she tries so hard to avoid her. Charrisse is using this info to provide her a storyline by making it a mystery. It’s clever but it won’t hold. It needs to be revealed or buried.
I have three kids. Im on Jackie’s side. Mi was being snide for the cameras. She didn’t need to say “they aren’t my responsibility.” She could’ve talked to Jackie of camera instead of airing her out. She should’ve been set those boundaries before Jackie came on the show truth be told. And she took it too far airing Jackie’s business. Jackie never spilled Mia’s tea.
I can’t take Karen serious. She has the nerve to call Robyn’s ring fake when she was walking around in Endi.
LMAOOOOO!!!!
The hypocrisy amongst this group of women is crazy. Charisse didn’t even say anything about Karen’s mother. Plus, we don’t want to see these older women fight no shade😂
You get the early access when you subscribe and turn on notifications (said in the same energy as Nene when she said "they make it in your size when you got the coin) 🤣🤣
Mia made a comment earlier this season about Jacqueline being friends with Robyn so I think you are defo right
You said a whole word 🙌🏾 on the entitlement to resources & resentment between the 2 ! Agreed !! & spot on per usual
One thing I'm not seeing anyone talk about is how weird the vibe was when Mias friend came to her house. G didn't seem comfortable with her as if she was actually around all the time? That scene was weird. That mighta been last weeks episode. Lol IDK
Yes I agree - more of her life and not stirring up mess. I totally agree.
Shamans are the new sound baths 😅
I was confused by Karen and Charisse too. I do wish we could have heard the entire conversation because I know it’s edited. Having said that, production has been pretty good this season telling the story, so maybe they were confused too😂.
I can’t stand Mia! I don’t like the way she treats Jackie. Her nanny is Jackie’s sister and her sister said Mia is lying! We know she’s a liar so I don’t believe anything that comes out of Mias mouth. Mia is painting a picture full of lies. That’s why her husband is always looking confused. Mia brought her on this show to do her dirty. I really believe that.
I don't know if that is why she brought her on the show, I just think she needed an ally but for some reason things went south quickly. Maybe they have been frenemies for years but stayed together because of the length of their friendship. Of course I'm just guessing.
Karen always goes off when she is wrong and caught in a lie.
1. Hot box and sing sing
2. Jumping up and running to the bathroom when asked about blue eyes
3. Not being a good friend to Charisse, her reaction
All facts!!!!
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ngl though karen isnt the only one that said gizelle got a hot box😵💫
I will say this AGAIN "KAREN IS FAKE AS A THREE DOLLAR BILL ‼️‼️‼️"
#rentalofpotomac
#bs
#FAKE
#flipflop
#fencesitter
They all lie. To be honest candiace is the only person that has brought hard evidence of someone cheating which was Michael and when he was confronted admitted it. No one should be saying I hear you are sneaking around etc if you can't produce a picture or a text or something. Because at the end of the show these people have to go back and deal with their spouses and family after the show and also their reputation where they live.
Karen better be careful with Charisse!! She got some tea Karen doesn’t want revealed!!
She really does and Karen knows it. I'm sure Gizelle and especially Robyn knows what it is but won't say. Karen knows Gizelle won't spill it because they have been frenemies for years and she still didn't divulge it. Both Karen and Gizelle know they have chemistry on the show and they both want that paycheck, lol.
@@chica4530 They all need that paycheck! Karen & Wendy maybe not as much as the others! Hate to say it, but Charisse is going to shut Karen up in the final episode!
@@chanipann Wendy needs that paycheck as well. She made it clear they have major student loan debt.
@@chica4530 Ohhh yeah! Forgot about that!!!
@@chanipann 🤣
It doesn't matter what Charisse says to Karen it is going to be a trigger because Karen does not like Charisse and really should not have to explain. She obviously knows something we don't about this woman because she is very two faced to me. I don't like Charisse and don't know her she just seems to drop into things that don't concern her and stirs the pot for no reason. This show needs to just let that go and stop forcing Karen to deal with this person!
I’ve been waiting for you Brooke!!! You never disappoint!!!
Karen knows the deal with the GEB. They want Charrisse back on the show and they want Charrisse to use Karen as a storyline to get her back on the show. Karen isn't having it and doesn't want it. Charrisse did an interview with Bravo just last year and she stated that she can't stand Karen. So she needs to leave Karen alone. If I found out that someone who can't stand me will be on my show, I'd pay them dust and ashes to the grave.
Also, the show needs a voice of reason and a mature person to intervene when things go to far. Charrisse can fit that role because Candiace and Wendy have morals unlike everyone else. She can be a flopper like Cynthia also. 🤣Charrisse needs to be the peace maker and voice of reason because we need it on this show.
It's not Karen's show, it's an ensemble cast. Karen can't keep anyone from being cast, none of them can unless all of them agree not to film with the person.
@@chica4530 I didn't say anything like that.
What are you talking about? She lied for Robin when she asked her did she put a finger on Wendy. They all are flawed no one is perfect.
@@beautifulsoulspeaks1366 Like I said, Charrisse needs to shot for the peacemaker role or flip flopper like Cynthia and stay away from that green eyed bandit mess. If she wants to be on the show she should find a lane and a good one. Reading is fundamental at all times. God bless the ABCs and 123s.
Mia seems to be the kind of person who doesn't mind helping when you are good...but keeps score, for when you are not. That's not a friend. Set your boundaries when they have been challenged, not when you are an enabler
Gizelle is so pathetic because she really could’ve used have fibroids as a storyline and how it affects black women but no, she rather be in everyone else’s business.
But Mia’s Nanny is Jacqueline’s Sister. Like Tf? and she has Gordon to watch her Kids, Lol Jacqueline has the right to ask HER SISTER TO WATCH HER KIDS… Mia is delusional.
AND Robyn did u invite Wendy to that wack field day earlier this season....STOP IT
Basically, Karen was saying to Charisse, "Don't bring up how you came to my mom's funeral and was "there for me." That's not your doorway into being my friend again or getting back into this group. Don't use my mom's death as your avenue back into the group/show." Not saying it's right, but that seems to be how Karen took it and got extremely upset.
We know Karen has been caught in a few lies over the years. She's doing what she did to Gizelle. Remember last year Karn claimed her issue with Gizelle is that Gizzy wished death on Ray? She did the same thing to Charisse, gaslit her saying shes talking about her mother. Same thing Mia did claiming Wendy disrespected her husband. I hate when people do that. When they can't defend their actions, they gaslight and blame people for something they didnt do.
Brooke, I think you missed it. She did explain why they’re not friends. Long story short, cha cha, was attempting to befriend her by going to her mothers funeral - Karen viewed it as an opportunity for Cha Cha to try to get back into the group after not speaking to her directly but talking about her to everyone. Cha Cha also did a couple interviews saying “I went to her mothers funeral” that’s what Karen is referring to! She also lied on her having other relationships with blue eyes and remember their fight in the boat? Cha cha didn’t want to be friends with The Grand Dame!
ALSO Cha cha knows that her in back into the group would be to befriend Karen or start mess with her. The producers thought it’ll be juicy but like you said, we’re all bored and tied of it.
Robyn should not be the one talking about Karen iced out Charisse because she iced out Wendy from the lousy funday or coming to her show. Giselle and Robyn are hypocrites.
Right, NOT sold yourself to the devil! LOLL
Didnt Charrisse get mad at Gizelle when she was on Watch What Happens Live and she was saying she was messing with a fireman. That situation got under Charrisse's skin so bad that she teamed up with Monique to get Sherman's ex wife to film on the show and expose all of Sherman's park after dark activities and in the end he dumped Gizelle. Gizelle was heartbroken by that breakup and when she found out who was behind it, she went after Monique (whom she already didnt like) but not Charrisse who knew the ex and set it all up!
I am saying all that to say why is Charrisse not understanding why Karen aint fooling with her when Gizelle did it to her season 1 and spent season 2 getting revenge?
Your smile literally brightens the day❤….Love this review pure usual ❤
Your confusion will be cleared up if you watch the Nanny aka her sister U Tube were she explains everything.
I finally tuned into the season and CONFUSION. I did appreciate the cinematic transitions the editors were giving but I feel like there were important moments cut out from both Jaq/Mia and Cha-Cha/Karen scenes bc huuuh?! Was it stomach-gas? Plane diarrhea? Alcohol? But all this doesn’t change how I feel about Jaqueline or Cha-Cha. I agree Wendy and Candiace shouldnt have gotten out their seats but it just shows where their hearts are. Ashley waffling on about that gremlin got me itching (like for why?!) Iunno but this episode just felt choppy like them waves they were pasting into the episode. See you next week 🤗
Karen is the reason why this beef between her and charisse is being talked about. You can see a clear change in Karen demeanor the moment Charisse comes around and it's so obvious but she just tries to play it as " oh I just don't like her."
I think Karen is fine coexisting with charisse, but charisse keeps trying to play the why do you not like me. She should let it go and focus on the other women. Charisse is boring, with no personality or fabulousity. See Marlo as a friend was giving fashions etc .
Charisse did not bring up Karen’s parents. Karen gave the excuse of because she was dealing with her mum’s death, she couldn’t really communicate with Charisse. Then Charisse respond with stating she showed up for her when that happened.