at 5:27 Shouldn't Noah have gained 3 life instead of 4 since Rograkh doesn't do any damage or I'm missing something here? (not that it mattered at all though) ggs
Newbie to cedh here, why did Matthew exile 10 cards with necropotence at 2:50 with no mana, when the cards he discards during cleanup phase get exiled, is it just to try and get combo pieces for next turn?
Macoy for game two had a great start, time twister away people first hands? Then draw a lot of cards, stop playing hot potato with my card 😆...in the end great combo finish
Shouldn’t the Orvar player have used force of negation on the time twister? I realize this is makes him go down 2 cards, but the twister was from player 4, so no one was getting insanely punished by it. And kinnan breaks insane parity with all the fast mana. AND my guy had a rhystic study to refill his hand. Please educate me if I am wrong here
I dont get why the first helm activation caused the entire library to be exiled. You stop at X or at a creature, whichever comes first, and as far as i can tell X=1 there... what am i missing?
Rest in Peace and Helm are a 2 card combo. Rest in Peace exiles the card instead of putting it into a graveyard, which means that Helm's "X or a creature card" are never put into a graveyard. Therefore, this process is continued until their library is completely exiled. This Helm combo works with anything that puts things into exile *instead of* graveyards, like Leyline of thr Void.
Helm puts cards from the library into the graveyard until X number of creatures hit the graveyard. Because of Rest in Peace, cards were never hitting the graveyard, they were going straight into exile. Since Helm keeps milling until X creatures hit the graveyard, it exiles the entire library.
I'm nee to edh. And is interested in building and playing a cedh deck... I'm not understanding how jeweled lotus is sac'd to cast commander.... please elaborate this to me. Thanks 😊
Because that's what the card says. The text reads as follows: "Tap, sacrifice Jeweled Lotus: Add three mana of any one color to your mana pool. Spend this mana only to cast your commander."
@@raser4329 I’ve tried to look up the ruling but some of the cedh gameplay where the player sac’d jeweled lotus only to cast a 4 cmc commander. But I’ve also watched casual edh where the player sac’d jeweled lotus and tapped 2 lands to cast a 5 cmc commander. Am I trippin’ or nah?
@@johnnyhong2150 Just Google and read the card. You sacrifice it and it adds three of one color just for your commander. You can still use other mana sources in addition to it, but the Jeweled Lotus mana specifically is only for the commander. If you look up the card on Gatherer it will have any additional rulings.
Without knowing decklists, I would have targeted Michael with the Praetors Grasp, looking for a 1mana answerto helm/rip combo. there might be one in blue or white, pretty impossible that there is one in a mono black deck.
@@darkestknight23 Most mono black plays feed the swarm. Which Matthew also does. Not sure why he didn't grab that one. (Maybe it was exiled with Necro)
I feel like Mathew conceding here was a bad move. He had just seen the Praetors Grasp on his deck. Conceding makes that useless that and gets rid of a possible out for Noah.
@@tonhallosf2099 I didnt catch that you're right. That said, still think conceding is fine, he was 0% to win the game. Choosing not to concede to allow the grasped card to be played could be seen as kingmaking under a certain light. Perhaps the praetors grasp should have targeted the gaaiv player looking for a bounce spell or artifact/enchantment removal instead?
I'm sorry but I just don't like the new narrator, the old one was perfect and for some reason the voice of the new narrator annoys me, no offense. I don't think I can watch the channel anymore, thanks for the videos though.
Seeing vandalblast exiled to chrome mox before everyone loses to helm of obedience hurts in retrospect
Mystified how there was zero interaction in 2 whole games with multiple blue/green players.
Think pongify counts as interaction
Unfortunately vandalblast is sorcery so it still wouldn't matter
I don't get how one can draw almost half the deck and still not having a good play over multiple turns.
Lets all appreciate Trey’s Playmat for a second 😂 10/10 Scene from one of the best manga!
Gotta love the “Don’t feed the fish” playmats as well 👀
The opening hands that the players got these games were insane. I was massively jealous of that insane opener McCoy got in game 2.
I really like that there's been 2 games per episode! Really fun to watch
I am here to appreciate that foil Mind Slicer. GORGEOUS!
at 5:27 Shouldn't Noah have gained 3 life instead of 4 since Rograkh doesn't do any damage or I'm missing something here? (not that it mattered at all though)
ggs
His other commander cares about toughness not power for life gain
Edit: I see the issue never mind yeah, no combat damage was dealt
You're correct.
Mono-black is the only color that can slam down a turn 1 necro and still lose
Trey's playmat is dope 👍
That's one of my favorite cards in the world seeing Rest in peace and helm do their job it is just so wrong but it's so fun
Love to see some good wins! I got to get a Consecrated sphinx
The luck Maccoy had on each turn was just too good, a perfect game for him
Finally! I’ve been waiting for game 2 to happen, forever!
Yeaaah man another episode!
Video looks great this episode!
That's was a great game one, Michael milly rocked on any block
helm of obediance with rest in peace....goodness.
That was the greatest game of Hot Potato I've ever seen.
So glad to see em back
at 5:40, wouldn't you only gain 3 life since rogarkh didn't deal combat damage to a player? or am i misreading the board
Newbie to cedh here, why did Matthew exile 10 cards with necropotence at 2:50 with no mana, when the cards he discards during cleanup phase get exiled, is it just to try and get combo pieces for next turn?
I think its just to filter through his deck
Hes digging for his wincon
Never heard of helm of obedience but damn that was brutal
How the hell do you draw 30+ cards with a Yawgmoth deck with nothing to show for it? This question isn't rhetorical. I want ANSWERS!
There was no way for the yawgmoth player to win at all, lol.
If you look at his deck you can see there was really no win condition.
Woa, no turn 1 fish from Cal on game two? That Timetwister prob felt like a punishment
Yawgmoth finally
Hrmmm I think those winning decks have something in common I just can't quite figure it out :) awesome video
"he cast finale where x is 1"
Me:🤨
"...septillion"
Me:😨
These games just go to show just how stupidly powerful blue is
YES! I love Orvar!!
wow, helm of obedience is very nice
Macoy for game two had a great start, time twister away people first hands? Then draw a lot of cards, stop playing hot potato with my card 😆...in the end great combo finish
Dude playing yawg draw 30 cards, play one creature and pass the whole g1
Did you guys change your micro? The audio seems extremely quiet
Since this is a double header, could you update the title to include the 2nd game's commanders? Thanks!
Love Trey's Hunter X Hunter playmat!!!
Smothering Arbiter finalllyyyyyyyy thanks guys
Shouldn’t the Orvar player have used force of negation on the time twister? I realize this is makes him go down 2 cards, but the twister was from player 4, so no one was getting insanely punished by it. And kinnan breaks insane parity with all the fast mana. AND my guy had a rhystic study to refill his hand. Please educate me if I am wrong here
Excited for arbiter hope they do something cool.
I dont get why the first helm activation caused the entire library to be exiled. You stop at X or at a creature, whichever comes first, and as far as i can tell X=1 there... what am i missing?
They never enter the graveyard since Rest In Peace exiles them. So it repeats for the entire library.
Can someone explain to me why the helm was exiling everyones whole libraries? Never seen the card before
Rest in Peace and Helm are a 2 card combo. Rest in Peace exiles the card instead of putting it into a graveyard, which means that Helm's "X or a creature card" are never put into a graveyard. Therefore, this process is continued until their library is completely exiled.
This Helm combo works with anything that puts things into exile *instead of* graveyards, like Leyline of thr Void.
Helm puts cards from the library into the graveyard until X number of creatures hit the graveyard. Because of Rest in Peace, cards were never hitting the graveyard, they were going straight into exile. Since Helm keeps milling until X creatures hit the graveyard, it exiles the entire library.
Nice games!
I'm nee to edh. And is interested in building and playing a cedh deck... I'm not understanding how jeweled lotus is sac'd to cast commander.... please elaborate this to me. Thanks 😊
Because that's what the card says. The text reads as follows: "Tap, sacrifice Jeweled Lotus: Add three mana of any one color to your mana pool. Spend this mana only to cast your commander."
@@raser4329 I’ve tried to look up the ruling but some of the cedh gameplay where the player sac’d jeweled lotus only to cast a 4 cmc commander. But I’ve also watched casual edh where the player sac’d jeweled lotus and tapped 2 lands to cast a 5 cmc commander. Am I trippin’ or nah?
@@johnnyhong2150 Just Google and read the card. You sacrifice it and it adds three of one color just for your commander. You can still use other mana sources in addition to it, but the Jeweled Lotus mana specifically is only for the commander. If you look up the card on Gatherer it will have any additional rulings.
God i love Helm
And that’s how I realized that Urza‘s Saga wasn’t legendary.
At 5:38 how did Lincoln pay one for LED? I see he paid one with Arcane Signet for his Jeweled Lotus.
He has a Buried Ruin he taps to cast the Lion’s Eye Diamond, and then uses Arcane Signet for Jeweled Lotus
"hold his Wii for a wee" XD what are these challenges even?
Without knowing decklists, I would have targeted Michael with the Praetors Grasp, looking for a 1mana answerto helm/rip combo. there might be one in blue or white, pretty impossible that there is one in a mono black deck.
I don't get the idea of that. White has enchantment removal, what's grabbing from mono black LOL
Michael just not attacking the player necro-ing for 7 a turn...
1.25x Speed is perfect for this narrator :D
sad that praetor’s grasp didnt find an answer for the helm/rip… oh well !
They targeted the mono black player. Not really known for enchantment/artifact removal. Curious they didn't hit the white player
@@darkestknight23 yea that seems like a misplay
@@darkestknight23 Most mono black plays feed the swarm. Which Matthew also does. Not sure why he didn't grab that one. (Maybe it was exiled with Necro)
@@Kadunz93 feed is the only option really for black. White has a vast amount of enchantment and artifact removal
@@darkestknight23 But most CEDH white lists don't really run it, except for a bounce spell or two. Which also holds true for Michael's list
Helm is cool but can only kill one person at a time. I have an arbiter deck and actually took that combo out in favor of Heliod ballista
i see godo i thumbs up
I'm sorry but the second I saw Treys playmat he won the game in my book.
How do you rip necro that hard and have nothing to play??? Wtf
Time wipe doesn't target.
I feel like Mathew conceding here was a bad move. He had just seen the Praetors Grasp on his deck. Conceding makes that useless that and gets rid of a possible out for Noah.
He conceded because he was about to lose in his draw step. The praetors grasp would become useless anyways.
@@mckfencer He skipped his draw step due to Necropotence
@@tonhallosf2099 I didnt catch that you're right. That said, still think conceding is fine, he was 0% to win the game. Choosing not to concede to allow the grasped card to be played could be seen as kingmaking under a certain light.
Perhaps the praetors grasp should have targeted the gaaiv player looking for a bounce spell or artifact/enchantment removal instead?
How the hell did the rograkh/ikra player gained 4 life? Rograkh does not deal damage.
this is why I don't like Competitive lol. Much too fast and not enough time to have fun.
Everyone has fun differently. Everyone at that table had a great time. You should try it out sometime. You may be surprised.
Can’t stand this narrator. Ryan was the best. Unsub
I'm sorry but I just don't like the new narrator, the old one was perfect and for some reason the voice of the new narrator annoys me, no offense. I don't think I can watch the channel anymore, thanks for the videos though.
Had to turn my speakers up way too high to hear him lolz it’s like he’s whispering in his room at night while recording it. I miss the old one too