Flipping a Super Cub in Alaska's Backcountry
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- Our fearless leader at Airframes Alaska talks about his experience crashing his Super Cub during takeoff. This video was created for an FAA seminar with Northern Pioneer Helicopter, which helped provide the recovery efforts. We are sharing this video as a reminder to use extra caution as pilots descend upon the backcountry this fall.
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Great work! Love it when people put their egos aside and admit to their mistakes so others can learn. We all screw up here and there, sometimes we are lucky enough to get away with it, other times we arnt
So impressive, humble pilot and CEO, shares mistakes so others learn after he cartwheels his plane. Failure is an adventure!
The old guy at the end has seen and fixed it all.:)
I really appreciate you sharing this video. I look for these little gems to help myself learn and truly be a better pilot. Glad to see you walk away unscathed!!
Not many pilots will admit when they mess up. My hats off to you for admitting you messed up.
Target fixation happens many forms. Dad warned me about it when I started to learn to fly.
Learning about this from my ultralight instructor has made me a better driver as well. Especially at night.
Absolute amateurs don't share their mistakes maybe, but the NASA ASRS program is an amazing success and a benefit to anyone who partakes.
So, you are telling me pilots usually are liars? That's kinda strange attitude, people who lies shouldn't be allowed to fly. Even to drive,
@@deimos2k6 yeah many are like you, they don't publicly admit to their mess ups or mistakes. So when you don't own up to your mistakes are you not also a liar?
Thank you for sharing, I truly believe that helps others learn. There was one comment you mentioned about you should of pulled the power.... no no no! You loose the air going over the tail, which will prevent you from planting that tail. While not in water, I hit a soft spot at Friday creek a few years ago during breakup. I pulled power and tried to plant the tail but had absolutely no elevator authority without the prop blast. My advice, would be plant the tail and slowly pull the power, the key thing pulling that stick back all the way, keep some power in until you are pretty much a slow taxi speed.
The whole thing is so far from standard soft field takeoff! At least you have learned an expensive lesson.
Well said !
Great to see a humble person willing to take a difficult experience and use it as an educational opportunity for others. Great video!
thank you for sharing. excellent video, it didn't leave unanswered questions. very helpful. pilots perspective is the key piece of info in this video. thank you for your candor.
Good ol' Huey to the rescue.
You walked away sir and thank God that you didn’t get hurt through this incident
What's the hourly rate on a Huey? Oof. Glad you're okay!
It’s about a $10,000 trip.
I can't imagine what it cost you to have a chopper carry you out
Most pilots wouldn't admit any error. Good job analyzing what happened to improve everyone's chances of avoiding mistakes like this again.
Shit happens, and this guy can handle it.
Cheapest insurance = 35" ABW :)
Nice! I'm not a pilot but I do know it takes a 'Big man' to admit his mistakes. By doing so you are helping others not to make the same mistake. Thanks............ Respect!
Gutted to hear and see the incident. Glad you are OK... I guess you are a better pilot today! 💪
If only you were flying one of those fangled new 'tricycle' gear airplanes. Booooo 👎
But seriously, bad luck and good work for analysing it all out and getting it straight in your mind for the future. And also for sharing for the benefit of the rest of us.
So the amateur running the camera put the video down at the golden moment we needed to see and then post it as if it's useful. Never ever lose focus and take your eye off the subject. Don't be an amateur.
The first time I landed on pavement, with tundra tires, I bounced for a mile!
7:31 talk about STOL!! jokes aside, I’m glad you and your bird are okay. Thanks for making this a learning experience.
Rarely do people share their mistakes. Thank you, I learned and so many others will too.
Yikes! What a stellar gentleman for taking us through the process of what happened. Glad the plane survived!
Great lesson. Thanks for sharing a difficult day! Keith @ Gwin’s Lodge Roadhouse and Cabins in Cooper Landing Alaska
Can someone say engine overhaul? Ouch!
Lessons can come at a very expensive cost in aviation. At least nobody got hurt. Thank you for sharing your video.
Take care,
Be safe.
Bravo on being able to point out that it was your mistake. Not many ppl can set aside egos. Thank you for posting this video, it shows character & someone wanting to pass on a learning experience. Cheers fr Kasilof.
are you saying that usually your people are boastful liars and with too much ego? That's funny. Usually a pilot who messes up in that way we shut off his mouth here, no matter he wants to admit anything or not.
You walked away….🙏😎👍🏼
Would be great to know the total cost for recovering the craft and putting it back in service…?
You mentioned that you should have aborted the takeoff but then what would your options have been at that point? I can't imagine that there is anything a guy could do to improve the runway conditions. Was it just going to continue to get wetter there or does that terrain dry out that time of year? I see that it snowed in the intervening 3 weeks. Do you ever have to leave a plane until it snows and then put skis on it to get out of situations like this?
Yah new engine and prop but I saw surprisingly little Airframe damage, even to rudder. Was there ANY Airframe damage?
I'll bet that cost you a buck or three to get back home. I did the same to the prop on mu Stinson in an off field landing in El Paso back in '96, except only to one side.
Admire the narrative and, especially, your wisdom to helicopter it out! Great guidance to viewers!👍
What a pity. Good nobody‘s hurt. There are days to just go Rubber Duck Shooting. At least thats what we do as our channel name implies 😊
I've done some flying in the Alaskan bush, my eye is not untrained and it strains to see this "runway" he speaks of.
Love these advanced 'propellerlets' to avoid tip vortices...
Thanks for the great lesson learned. I’ll be looking out for those wet fields and practicing aborted take offs more as I get more experience in the bush.
Someone is filming the take off and just before it flips the video stops recording. Why post this? Yawh, Moving on.
Interesting and a lesson shared is mistake avoided. I avoided real bad accident by paying good attention to other pilots shared experiences. Thank you!
Just glad you are OK.
Very Rangerios........😭😭😭😭
Really some fields are rotary wing only.
Even short take off aircraft have limits.
Happens to the best of us. If you fly bush you're going to get in some sketchy situations.
Great. Next time inspect the runway before your flight.
I was yelling pull back the whole takeoff . It looked like A poor model pilot trying to learn how A taledragger works.
The thing is, unlike a model taildragger, for a takeoff in a normal taildragger you DO want to push the nose down on takeoff. There are multiple reasons for it.
- Staying planted on the ground to avoid sliding / early liftoff
- Less drag --> shorter takeoff
- being less affected by gusts
and probably many more.
I think you should be able to trust me . I have flown the PA18 with a remote and by sitting in it. They are very very different.
That cost you some money !!!! Nice work getting it out from there.
I only had a single curled prop and you got both. Afterwards I often thought about if I had used the starter to bring the prop to level I could have saved it 🤔 I guess you just had to be there. I'm really glad both of us are able to laugh about our own mistakes.
The chopper pilot has to feel a bit smug!
High five! I love your humor!
Thank you for your having putting other people's learning from your experience ahead of your pride. Your humility will enable other people to be aware in similar circumstances and may save someone's life. Glad you are okay as well. Had a dear friend die when their tricycle gear flipped over after hitting something on a beach takeoff in Alaska. They went to pick wild strawberries and came back to the plane with 5 quarts of berries but never made it home. I worked with her in the fish cannery and she was loved by everyone.
man, so sorry. that made me throw up a little bit. How far out of the crank after the strike?
When it rains it pours. A combination of factors in this situation
The cameraman had one job, and failed it miserably
don't worry. this happens to me in microsoft flight sim aaaall the time
having a winch on the plane to pull you up hills to a proper take off area
That's some expensive moose right there.
Glad you got it home
That is one EXPENSIVE moose hunt!
We all learned about flying because of what you shared.
Thank you!
“Sometime school’s very expensive “.
Happens to the best of us It's not if it's when
It is illegal to shoot an animal out of an aircraft in Alaska
You can legally do aerial wolf hunting in Alaska
was that last guy in the video an A & P guy? he was a hoot
Why did you keep trying to get.the tail up???
Would have been an expensive trip back
My dad was a bush pilot in Alaska from the early 70s to the late 90s or so. He flipped a Cessna 120 or a Lescomb (I can't remember which now) on a sandbar, the wheels dug in on the landing and it slowly flipped over. No one was hurt though.
holy cow, how did they get it out and did you ever get your PPL?
@@dabneyoffermein595 He went in with a friend that does metal work and the repaired it and flew it out. I guess since it was metal and not fabric, that would be the Lescomb correct? I never did get my license.
You ａre the light Confirms修正
So what’s the cost of a helicopter tow run now?
Good video - my homestead was in Yenlo Mts. , just north of the Talchulitna R. - Yep gets a little Soggy in that high country sometimes. Cub looked pretty good afterall.
You got a great story to tell though!
I guess the moose are laughing.
Thanks for sharing the lesson for us all
Thank you for sharing.
One thing I know....
Do NOT use those old style seat belts that the webbing slips through the clip. And you pull the tab up to release.
When you are hanging upside down your weight makes the latching tighter and you cannot get out.
Cutting is your only option.
Thats what I heard anyway...🙄🙄
Kind of an expensive experience, no?
The very last line is a gem. All's well that ends...expensively.
staying at home is cheaper
At that point he knew he had fucked up
Cartwheel Club in PA 12; lost power over the Kenai Moose Range--landing looked great until we slowed enough for the wheels to sink onto the water.
Thanks for this , Being a pilot has humbled me from time to time as well. Heck some days I swear I forget how to land. After watching this I think maybe flying from the back seat might be a good thing when taking off from a very soft field , I'm gonna practice. I'll make a video just in case it goes badly.
As long as once you're airborne you don't end up too far aft on c of g!
No one forces you to get airborne. You can also stay at home and save your life, instead of flying and forgetting how and where to land. Have you some problems with memory?
"Stupid Cub Tricks".
Glad you weren’t hurt.
Great review, no ego. Shouldn’t ridicule or judge OTHERS mishaps..unless you like eating ‘crow’.
Cub isnt a chopper
Always full stick back in soft conditions. -another thing... big tires are no good in snow, they create more drag. Been there, done that. Western NY where REAL snow falls.
Thanks for explaining. How much did it cost for the helicopter to fly it out of there?
Thanks for sharing.
Sure glad I don't treat my Super Cub like that. (but they wreck a lot of them every year up there.)
Well the error to me is so understandable I imagine there will be pilots, even after seeing this, making similar mistakes due to the very narrow margin of error these circumstances command.
But my real question here is the damage did not appear terrible. In other words what could have prevented you from replacing the propeller onsite and flying it out of there? Anything? The helicopter transport and all could not have been the cheapest solution.
Great video. Not many people would admit they were wrong and let alone, show it in a video. Many should learn from this one as you did. Thanks for sharing
Nice video. Us lower 48 pilots totally understand. Those improvised runways are the problem. I like the riverbed runways best in Alaska. Minor damage, no injuries, good to fly another day.Life is Good!
Cowboys are cowboys no matter where they are..This airplane must go on general repair buddy.
Water coming from the wings? Does that mean the fuel had already leaked into the the ground? Nice.
Plus, score one for the moose.
Don't think we was meant to see that part.
Glad I waited for the ending of the Video of how the airplane got home! That was some vertical takeoff there to get it HOME...
better call Avemco,
Glad you are ok.
Good video
The biggest risk, that tall grass. Abborted take off is just as important as the Abborted landing.
Yea, that rough ass hay field looks like a great choice of places to fly off from.
Too funny at the end! Glad you're ok and, as always, learned something valuable!
Great team
Him: I walked this runway in the morning.
...
Me: I see no runway. :|
Cartwheel club! LOL. Well done and thanks for sharing.