WW1 Dogfight from the Pilots' Perspectives: Fokker Triplane & Sopwith Pup | Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome

Dave King in the Fokker Dr.1 Triplane and Mark Mondello in the Sopwith Pup take to the skies in a WW1 dogfight! See it from the pilots' perspectives!
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Video by Michelle Locke
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[@joewoodchuck3824]

I'm happy to see Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome still operating. I was there years ago when I lived close enough. Lots to absorb even without the air show.

[@shan6021]

My father brought me here numerous times. Miss you every day, Dad. Love You!

[@joewoodchuck3824]

Sorry for your loss. Been there, done that.

[@yes_head]

Landing either one of those has to be... pucker inducing! But I especially marvel at the turning radius they had. Get the right wind gust and you could probably do a 180 in place!

[@ultrablue2]

An excellent video. It begins to give the impression of just what it was like to fly these early aircraft, and see your adversary in the sky. THANK YOU!

[@kenhendricks2124]

I have fond memories of coming to ORA with my dad when I was 10. This brings it all back. So cool to see this perspective!

[@hugoaken2604]

My money would have to be on the Fokker with its twin synchronised guns as against the Pup's single synchronised .303 Vickers - double the chance of hitting something - although skill and luck would have been the unknowns. Nice little sideslip on final approach by the Fokker.

[@walterbriggs272]

Snoopy and the Red Baron!

[@motionsic]

Stuff of dreams! Thanks for keeping the dreams alive!

[@eric-wb7gj]

TY 🙏

[@eaglewolffox6275]

All we need is Good Fellow and Black Baron voiceovers during the flight

[@deppsterdeppe725]

Whats surprising to me is how limiting the vision is by that extra wing on the Fokker...Bi wing certainly had the advantage.

[@scoopmcg]

way cool! Thank you for posting

[@mennoburmeister1973]

Best video so far

[@knowone6214]

Great video

[@flymachine]

My brain really struggles to put myself in that time period in such great colour as if existence was black and white or at best recoloured back then😂

[@AIRBORN_EEvEE]

I love the Sopwith Pup.

[@MargaretNorris-w9b]

Is it just me or are the ailerons on the triplane dropping on the side to which the aircraft is turning?

[@scottfortress9010]

"Folkers on the left. Folkers on the right...
Them Folker's were Meschermights.

[@CountryFenderBass]

How much right rudder do you need to counter the P factor? Plus is the flying attacks planned ahead or are you just doing it as you go…

[@hollywood1340]

I'm sitting here in my computer chair going "dakadakadakadaka" What fun.

[@TedSchoenling]

and now I see snoopy shaking his fist

[@coopersrace7277]

Flying any aircraft, let alone something that glides like a brick when the noise stops, would make me pucker! Alternative landing sites look almost nonexistent and they are flying low!

[@jamesavery6015]

That was my first thought too!

[@fpvdogfight]

When the Dridecker lined up the Pup in between the guns, that gave me goose bumps🤩. Interesting that Dridecker engine has very rugged throaty sound vs. Pup’s smooth wind noise. Is it merely recording difference? Or do the engines actually sound so different?

[@mourauxxavier5680]

It could be recording difference but I believe the DR1 has a modern engine (Rotax ?) while the Pup may have an original rotary engine.

[@fpvdogfight]

@@mourauxxavier5680 if that’s true then fascinating how an old rotary engine sounds so much quieter than a modern rotax engine. Are you sure it’s not the other way around?

[@mourauxxavier5680]

@@fpvdogfight I just notice that there are links in the description for more details on both planes on the Old Rhinebeck website. The Dr1 has a 220hp Continental radial engine. It's about twice the power of the original rotary so probably the reason for more noise.

[@fpvdogfight]

@@mourauxxavier5680 Thanks for looking up the info. That makes perfect sense now. Cheers!

[@OldRhinebeckAerodrome]

@@fpvdogfight Yes our Sopwith Pup has an 80HP LeRhône 9C rotary and our Triplane has a 220HP Continental stationary radial engine. This video was filmed with GoPros so there also is a good amount of wind noise that may be affecting the sound of the engines.

[@motoflyte]

I thought these old planes didn't have throttles...

[@Workerbee-zy5nx]

🤠👍

[@martinshephard6317]

I’d love to know how much of the flight was a demonstration and how hard they were genuinely dogfighting. I watched a video recently that said the DR1 had a hard time against the Camel and that the DR1’s wing design gave them an unexpected advantage with the wing design. See the link below.
th-cam.com/video/zELul8q0HjM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ZOgPVPMZ_3k_2gWo

[@joejody7814]

Superb video! The camera mount gives a true perspective that the simulators all fail at. Would be interesting to know the secret to this pilots eye view. I liked the tail low take off in the camel.

[@Lensman864]

Try using IL2 Flying Circus with a VR headset and it looks exactly like this!

[@8AD858D8]

Altitude is your friend unless you have acrophobia.

[@cavu22]

The DR1 ailerons appear to work backwards....

[@po1ly414]

It’s called overbanking: in a turn, the outside wing moves faster and therefore creates more lift. The pilot must use alierons opposite to the turn to counteract this effect. For most airplanes, they are built to be naturally stable and will therefore naturally return to level, counteracting this overbanking tendency. The DR1 was made to be a fighter and, to aid in maneuverability, was made naturally unstable requiring constant corrections to keep level in order to roll faster when it needs to.

[@g.p.d.2220]

@@po1ly414great explanation!
Thanks!

[@garyfrancis6193]

I thought we would be flying a doghouse.

[@DrewsOnFirst]

so basically all these pilots quickly became deaf, eh?

[@brents7928]

??????? ?

[@stephenp8086]

What a bad location for an airport flying these old planes and engines.

[@iwonderwhatidoanymoreonyou4063]

How? Just curious