Why Spacers don't work with Nissan Frontier, Xterra and Pathfinder

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    In this video we explain and show how spacers can be the cause of coil bucket contact and how to avoid the issue. Here at ADO we try to keep you informed as much as possible when it comes to lifting your Nissan or Toyota!
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  • @mikewchandler
    @mikewchandler ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Great video. It keeps me from asking even more annoying questions....and from making costly mistakes!

  • @Berghemrrader
    @Berghemrrader 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As a "Nissan Navara" owner (i'm living in Italy) I really appreciate this useful information.

  • @MichaelMartin-rw5fi
    @MichaelMartin-rw5fi 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I had a 2wd frontier that I installed a RC 2.5in lift kit for a little extra ground clearance. For some practical purposes it was fine. I just swapped it for a pro 4x and will be shopping with you guys very soon. This video was very professional and straight to the point.

    • @BuhdFrankDaTank93
      @BuhdFrankDaTank93 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did you have the kit that included shocks ??

  • @dn2610
    @dn2610 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome information on spacers vs proper coilover lifts and UCA'S. Will be getting a 2023 Frontier Pro4x soon and will be lifting it. Thanks for sharing! 👍

  • @sgt.grinch3299
    @sgt.grinch3299 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Nissan makes nice vehicles but they don’t get the love they deserve.

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  ปีที่แล้ว +11

      We're a little biased :)

    • @jaketruman6816
      @jaketruman6816 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ain't nothing a titan swapped frontier or Xterra can't roll over 😎

    • @dyip32
      @dyip32 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I, for one, am happy for a biased co-op as yourselves 🥰

    • @Cj1985_GT
      @Cj1985_GT 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The 05-15 Xterra, 05-15 Pathfinder and the 05-20 Frontier are some of the most kick ass Nissans ever built. I just wish Nissan had admitted fault in the S.M.O.D Transmission Failures and just bit the bullet. They wouldve retained so many buyers because of confidence in the brand. Instead, they left tens of thousands of people with $30,000 Yard Ornaments. Too bad. I love the VQ40DE, the RE5R05A and all 3 vehicles theyre put in. I am currently rebuilding a VQ40 because previous owner neglected maintenance, resulting in SLUDGE and OIL CARBON BUILDUP that ruined the rings, timing components and rod/main bearings. Ive done timing jobs on both (really simple job) and the Xterra has 330,000 miles and uses oil. So when i rebuild the engine that came out of my 06 Pathfinder, it will go to the Xterra. Then ill rebuild the one that came out. And ill have a spare VQ40. I just love and adore these motors. A truly spectacular machine.

    • @Jaylakhaili
      @Jaylakhaili 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They make em hard to modify

  • @cakemasterflex69
    @cakemasterflex69 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of the best informative videos ive seen yet.

  • @MattMartin4
    @MattMartin4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great video. Literally put my Pathfinder 2005 R51 in the garage yesterday to get new struts/shocks installed along with a spacer lift kit - figured it would be a fun update. This video popped up while my Pathfinder was at the garage yesterday and behold now that my R51 is lifted I'm getting a small knock from the front over bumps. I watched countless videos about lifts on the R51 and I swear not one of those videos mentioned the control arm issue. Now trying to find an upper control arm thats gonna work for me.

    • @thesurfingprospector6345
      @thesurfingprospector6345 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes me too dam it

    • @evangagnon385
      @evangagnon385 ปีที่แล้ว

      You guys have any luck finding a control arm?

    • @iandjmartinez8406
      @iandjmartinez8406 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Titan swap

    • @jamesdg8190
      @jamesdg8190 ปีที่แล้ว

      SPC control arm

    • @Mike.D.843
      @Mike.D.843 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Get SPC. When I lifted my Xterra Rock Auto was selling the SPC arms under the memo tech supreme name. It looks like they have them listed as Dorman now. Look for the adjustable ones. The pictures show SPC arms. Best price I've seen on them. They will work, but you might have to trim the lip of the coil bucket slightly to clear the SPC ball joint.

  • @ericpowers2469
    @ericpowers2469 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    ‘15 Frontier SV: OME struts (medium springs) @ 1.5” with 2” top spacer, SPC UCA, 65k miles with zero issues.

  • @jalton9416
    @jalton9416 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Excellent and informative video. Good work, All Dogs.

  • @ferdysr
    @ferdysr ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for saving me the problem.
    I own a nissan Navara/frontier ..

  • @bernardberben4852
    @bernardberben4852 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks. I was just about to buy a 2.5in spacer. Not anymore.

  • @SA-hk8xj
    @SA-hk8xj ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video. Enjoy the visual presentation and explanation. Would hv been even better if you showed your RC Killa kit and it installed so we could see. Either way, good job 👍

  • @Will-kc7rx
    @Will-kc7rx 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    One of the many reasons that I follow this channel, there's making modifications to your vehicle and then there's modifying your vehicle correctly.

  • @egresk1
    @egresk1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think that Bilstein you used in this video is slightly longer than stock because I have a .5 inch spacer which gives a 1 inch lift on my 21 Frontier and there is zero coil bucket contact. Its close at full droop but It rides great. Great video with explanation.

  • @TVCColin
    @TVCColin ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good video. I am going to get a set for my 2022 Frontier. I have been running the RC 2.5 spacer for about 8k miles and get CBC on one specific bump. I have taken it off-road on some pretty sketchy shale mountain trails in Virginia and never actually experienced it while on the trail. So far I’ve been happy with it but eventually want to get a real lift kit for it but for now the spacers are ok. Thanks for the informational video!

    • @daywalker4029
      @daywalker4029 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If you were to look at your coil buckets, I guarantee paint is missing from them hitting a lot since you take it off road. Just because you don’t hear it, doesn’t mean it isn’t happening

    • @TVCColin
      @TVCColin ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@daywalker4029 I’m mainly talking about the violent clunk you get. I’m sure it is but at such low speeds it’s not as noticeable.

    • @mtnbound2764
      @mtnbound2764 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TVCColin yeah i have 2" spacers and its fine unless you really go fast over large holes/ drop offs.

    • @DB1Journeys
      @DB1Journeys ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I got the mild 1.5" spacers for my 2023 Frontier. Haven't installed them yet. Do you think I'll have issues with the 1.5"?

  • @chatnavz
    @chatnavz ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Its been in forum or fb but you guys explained it very well here in TH-cam lol. Nice

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      People on the regular still deny having CBC while running a spacer and factory arm. Gotta get the word out every way we can!

  • @GregPiercey
    @GregPiercey ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Nice video! I’m curious if anyone has ever talked to a Nissan design engineer (probably long since retired given how long this platform has been around) and asked what the rationale was for the UCA design selection was. Given that it is different than virtually all other similar trucks like you mention, I wonder what the perceived benefits of this arrangement was.

    • @daywalker4029
      @daywalker4029 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      From an engineer’s standpoint, the design works as it should. Engineers don’t design parts with modifications like lift kits in mind.

    • @mtnbound2764
      @mtnbound2764 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@daywalker4029 true, but it doesnt answer the question, why did they decide to do it differently than the commonly used solution?

    • @daywalker4029
      @daywalker4029 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mtnbound2764 not my question to answer. would have to ask an engineer. they're still using them now so they must assume it's still fine. they've had 16 years to change it and haven't.

    • @PreparedOverlander
      @PreparedOverlander 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@daywalker4029So they are still using this same design on the 2023 and 2024 trucks?

    • @daywalker4029
      @daywalker4029 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PreparedOverlander yes. the suspension is unchanged from 2005 essentially

  • @thedude828-ed2nn
    @thedude828-ed2nn 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was gonna do a RC lift mostly for looks but i do have to go off-road quite a bit where I live. Luckily i did some research and decided to do it the right way i just decided to spend the money on the ado koni lift and got the ado uca's i havent got it yet just ordered it 2 days ago but i feel confident i made a better decision.

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      For sure! Good choice :)

    • @thedude828-ed2nn
      @thedude828-ed2nn 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AlldogsOffroadCoop thanks you guys have been good to work with you always answer all my questions in the chat and I appreciate it!

  • @sti_xterra
    @sti_xterra ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video. This was very insightful. I just received my Fox shocks lift kit from you for my 2014 Xterra. I have the z1 control arms. I am looking forward to get upgraded suspension and lift it!!
    ❤🔥video!

  • @atticussfinch9001
    @atticussfinch9001 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really great job, dogs… rookie 4X guy with a new 2023 Pro 4x, Nismo parts and lift kit already installed by dealership, along with 33” Ridgeline Grapplers/bronze rims. Trying to figure out what these guys did. I bought the truck new from dealership recently🎉, but the parts/install information isn’t listed on the sticker price. No receipts. Wondering if that’s all after-market work, and therefore would void the warranty. Going to bring it to somebody else to see wtf. And if the right shocks are there or not. I’m just seeing the blue/yellow 4600s. So will check those vs. 5100s and whether or not corrects spacers, etc are there. NOW I might sound Iike I kinda’ know what I’m talking about! Kinda’… 😅

  • @X_venturee
    @X_venturee ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice video. Makes a lot of sense to not run those big spacers. Even with aftermarket UCA, it’s still not recommended to run spacers because of the LCA ball joint bind?

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Correct - depending on height. Past 2.5" is where you can really start to notice it.

  • @Kaatu-barada-nikto
    @Kaatu-barada-nikto ปีที่แล้ว

    The education is much appreciated

  • @anthonylimjoco5958
    @anthonylimjoco5958 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do full blown fab work on Nissans. Way better to cut out all that stuff and weld on two tabs to install coil overs. Out here it only cost $300 for labor and materials to do that. Unlocks all the possibilities available for Nissans with coil overs

    • @phantomvideo4237
      @phantomvideo4237 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Now that's a solution I like

  • @jakehiggins5118
    @jakehiggins5118 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I did a 2 inch spacer with a bump stop on the UCA to minimize the noise and impact of CBC and it helps a ton. I also got a longer bump stop for the LCA so I don't damage the shock. I don't off road at all so a spacer makes sense for me and I don't get any CBC with daily driving except for when I go up my in laws gravel driveway with massive pot holes I only get CBC sometimes so it's actually not that bad for what I use my truck for. If I was off roading with it a lot then I would probably get your lift coils but for my needs a spacer works pretty well. I might end up getting the pre assembled bilstein 5100's with the lift coils just because I want to match the rear shocks I installed with your guy's AAL kit haha

    • @A.lowkee.savage
      @A.lowkee.savage ปีที่แล้ว

      So you still here the CDC but just at a lower volume correct?

  • @moomooclark7987
    @moomooclark7987 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    wow you just saved me a lot of bs ...will be ordering the goods soon...🤩🤩🤩

  • @jimmyhiggins4
    @jimmyhiggins4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video. I have not looked at my Gen3 suspension to much, but just received my 1/2” spacers. How much spacer can you add before the shock acts as the bump stop?

  • @simplygreat1883
    @simplygreat1883 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video!!

  • @DDDYLN
    @DDDYLN ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I guess I got lucky. I have a 2011 AT Pro-4X. I have a 2" spacer in the front, and an add-a-leaf in the back. I have zero coil bucket contact issues over like 5 years. Eventually I'd like to Titan Swap with better UCAs. But, I have to get my eyes fixed first, which will be out of pocket. As much as I want to mod my X, my eyes are more important!

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  ปีที่แล้ว

      i would assume if you look at your coil buckets, you have marks from CBC

    • @DDDYLN
      @DDDYLN ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@AlldogsOffroadCoop I did. Nothing.

    • @MisplacedMotoVlogger
      @MisplacedMotoVlogger 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Same for me, no issues.

    • @DDDYLN
      @DDDYLN 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@AlldogsOffroadCoop I take it back. There's some minor coil bucket contact, but it's not a structural problem. I'm trying to decide whether to Titan Swap it with Z1 Off-road UCAs and LCAs, or buy a 2025 Nissan Frontier Pro-4X. It seems clear that Nissan has no plans to make a new Xterra based on the new Frontier. I wish they would, but I don't see it happening. The 4th Gen 4Runner has an underpowered V6 and crappy seats. The 5th Gen 2025 4Runner has either a turbo 4 cylinder, or a hybrid option. Neither of those engine options seem like a good idea, from a reliability standpoint. My 2011 Xterra Pro-4X only has 85,000 miles. However, it's starting to have 13 year old age related issues. I can't afford a Ford Bronco, and Jeep Wrangler Rubicons are reliability nightmares. My only options are to spend money to upgrade my old Xterra, or sell it and buy a 2025 Nissan Frontier Pro-4X. I'm interested in a 2024 Nissan Titan Pro-4X. But, since Nissan has discontinued it in all countries, I'm uncertain the replacement parts will be available in the future.

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@DDDYLN the 5th gen 4runner has a 4.0 v6 that is just as reliable and powerful as the frontier 4.0. the 6th gen is the one with the turbo 4.

  • @Mike.D.843
    @Mike.D.843 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spacer or not, CBC will be a problem with lift. It doesn't matter how the lift is achieved, the control arm will still run closer to the coil bucket once the ride height is lifted.
    The only sure way to avoid CBC is to go with aftermarket UCAs.
    I am running PRG 1.5" lift spacers on my Xterra (which almost everyone told me would not cause CBC) and had CBC with the stock UCAs. I upgraded to SPC UCAs and no more problems.
    Now if I could just keep the darned cam bolts from throwing off the alignment after hitting a pothole, or rough trail, and if I could get an alignment shop locally to do a decent alignment! Lifted problems....

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  ปีที่แล้ว

      we have a cam bolt lockout kit that works great with the SPC UCA's that will stop your alignment from slipping at the LCA

  • @mtnbound2764
    @mtnbound2764 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    while you guys arent necessarily wrong.. the CBC issue gets overblown. ive been running 2" spacers on my Xterra for years. its fine. cbc is only an issue if you are going too fast.

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  ปีที่แล้ว

      it's not overblown. there's many cases of the upper control arm separating and causing major failure.

    • @mtnbound2764
      @mtnbound2764 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AlldogsOffroadCoop well, thats just my opinnion based on my experience, regardless, I love what you guys are doing for the nissan community and I hope to one day upgrade to a lift from you guys.

    • @A.lowkee.savage
      @A.lowkee.savage ปีที่แล้ว

      Have you ever used bump tops to reduce the CDC noise?

    • @mtnbound2764
      @mtnbound2764 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@A.lowkee.savage i have bump stops on the up and lower control arms, it helps reduce the impact, but its not really a fix.

  • @uonadtehrrocks
    @uonadtehrrocks ปีที่แล้ว

    I mean if more people made shock/spring combos or coilovers made to lift people wouldn't go to spacers but most options are stock height unless you add a spacer and or lift with spring preload.
    You are either dealing with coil bucket contact and getting UCA's or dealing with a rough ride and shock top out...

  • @sendapez
    @sendapez 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Should’ve provided a direct link to your leveling kit

  • @JamesFoster-ft1ci
    @JamesFoster-ft1ci 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey. Thanks for the info. I have a 2014 pathfinder platinum. I'm looking for a 2" - 2 1/2" lift kit. Do you have a recommendation from your brand? Part #s and/or link would be great.

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We have two options. Dobinsons or OME. There isn't much available for the Pathfinders unfortunately.

  • @mitchellcastricone1344
    @mitchellcastricone1344 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome video, now I'm not going to buy spacers and UCAs! Do you sell just the coils for the RCkilla? I already have the rear lifted. Thanks!

  • @bryandoherty9399
    @bryandoherty9399 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So with the RC Killa lift you won't have any CBC even with the stock UCA?

  • @dahatchery
    @dahatchery หลายเดือนก่อน

    Could you buy a longer ball joint?

  • @DP-wi6hm
    @DP-wi6hm 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    excellent info video !!!

  • @adgarza28
    @adgarza28 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I didn't catch if this was only for 4x4 models or both 4x4 and 2wd?

  • @rickwhitfield7617
    @rickwhitfield7617 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video... but you lost me on one thing. Isnt a taller coil like the one sold with the RCKilla kit still adding new physical length to the strut, which will STILL cause CBC unfil the crappy OEM NISSAN UCAs are also changed out?

    • @thedude828-ed2nn
      @thedude828-ed2nn หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No because your getting your lift from the coil not the actual strut so no ball joint issues either but I would always go with aftermarket uca's anyway they are just so much better.

    • @rickwhitfield7617
      @rickwhitfield7617 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@thedude828-ed2nn yes... I finally visualized it out in my mind that the stronger coil is allowing for less drop of the truck body to produce said lift in the same distance of shock! I totally agree on the after market UCAs too. Nissan should be ashamed of the stamped trash arms they put out as OEM... especially to keep them the same strength steel on a P4X that they market as their true harder off road option.. Bad design to begin with.
      Thanks!

    • @chuckyz2
      @chuckyz2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thedude828-ed2nn No matter how you lift, the uca has to ride lower. Doesn't matter if it is with spring or spacer... lift is lift and new uca's will be needed.

    • @thedude828-ed2nn
      @thedude828-ed2nn หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rickwhitfield7617 especially with the placement of the uca's I don't know why they did it like that and since they did that design they should have made a better clearance uca.

  • @jaydendyck1284
    @jaydendyck1284 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can we get a video of the RcKilla install and how it works to prevent this? Also with the 5100 shock and rckilla kit would it be comparable to a half inch spacer’s gap to the control arm?

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This video here is an rckilla install - th-cam.com/video/4DKuOAwYWUs/w-d-xo.html
      Yes, the 5100 would be very similar in clearance to the half inch spacer. It's about .2" longer than the 4600.

  • @bryansmith4348
    @bryansmith4348 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Does the same issue happen with the Bilstein 5100s (like stock Pro4X) when you adjust the collar up to give 2" of lift?

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      no. adding a spacer on top of the coilover physically lengthens the entire piece and that is what causes CBC

    • @bryansmith1237
      @bryansmith1237 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great thanks.

  • @dahatchery
    @dahatchery 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Could you install a Titan upper control arm that way you get clearance for the strut spacers?

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      no, the titan arm is longer. also the titan arm has less clearance than a factory frontier/xterra arm. titan's experience CBC at 1.5" of lift.

  • @jcrows6627
    @jcrows6627 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well, I can tell folks that your control arms do not prevent CBC with RC 2.5'" struts. I still had to trim to get rid of the contact.

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      in rare circumstances, the edge of the bucket may have to be trimmed to clear the ball joint cup. it's very rare though.

    • @DDDYLN
      @DDDYLN ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you have the Rough Country UCAs? Apparently they're great UCAs for an inexpensive price. I'm talking about the RC Titan Swap UCAs though. I don't know much about their regular length UCAs, but I imagine they're decent.

  • @dlansburg2673
    @dlansburg2673 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do you guy do installs

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sure! Just have to call the shop and arrange something :)

  • @mikemorgan4670
    @mikemorgan4670 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good educational video for the Nissan community.

  • @boss13hoss
    @boss13hoss 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have a 2017 frontier sv. I'm going to put a RC 6in lift. Will I have this same problem?

  • @noprefixamerican4743
    @noprefixamerican4743 ปีที่แล้ว

    a large spacer may create lower ball joint bind at full drop, because as you stated a spacer moves the strut assembly lower which allows the LCA to drop more, a lift coil will raise the truck but keeps the drop of the LCA relatively the same as stock, but will reduce down travel, the LCA with load on it will be in the same exact spot at 3" of lift no matter what parts are used to get that 3" of lift, right?

  • @nathanpeduzzi9377
    @nathanpeduzzi9377 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just bought a 2023 Nissan Pathfinder Rock Creek. I would like to do a lift and I can't seem to find anything. What do you recommend for the new 5th gen?

    • @mattacedo
      @mattacedo ปีที่แล้ว

      Can’t find shit for my 2015 either

    • @beardumaw24
      @beardumaw24 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's because new pathfinders are soccer mom mall crawlers, thank Nissan. Lol

  • @SteveDeering-m6d
    @SteveDeering-m6d 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At full droop you will have contact either way correct? Longer coil or spacer will reduce the space between the UCA and coil bucket. I’m not denying coil lift is better than a spacer, I just don’t see how you avoid contact any less. Full droop is full droop

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the only way to get CBC with a coilover is if it's longer than a stock travel coilover like a 5100. our fox extended travel kits cause CBC because of the actual physical length.

    • @baggett61
      @baggett61 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AlldogsOffroadCoop so, i was going to go with the fox ET kit, but even with the ado uca's it still has contact....then why sell it

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@baggett61 the only contact you may see is the ball joint cut touching the edge of the bucket. It’s uncommon to see it, and truly comes down to the production of the coil buckets on the day the trucks were built. A simple file or quick grind to clear it and you’re good to go.

  • @myYear66
    @myYear66 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So is that why people do the titan swap??

  • @Rokza72
    @Rokza72 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I want to do a 2" lift on my 99 pathfinder SE. What is your recommendation? Which lift kit do you advise me to get.

  • @bribri1657
    @bribri1657 ปีที่แล้ว

    What exactly would I need to order to get a 3-inch suspension lift all around with no CBC? One of those Bilstein coilover kits and upper control arms?

  • @chris74ify
    @chris74ify 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was looking at bilstien for my 2014 x as a lift ...no spacers I don't do any thing crazy with it just medium level difficult trails...would it be a good choice for more lift and quality?

  • @kyndred-ry5mm
    @kyndred-ry5mm ปีที่แล้ว

    good to know thx

  • @Yipping_Yeti
    @Yipping_Yeti ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What are your thoughts on regearing a 2nd Gen Xterra pro-4x with 33x12.5x16 tires/wheels? Leave stock, change to 4.56?

    • @chatnavz
      @chatnavz ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nee need if your running 33s. If your running 35s you need to regear

    • @daywalker4029
      @daywalker4029 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      if you have a manual transmission then 4.56s work, 4.10s if you're x has an auto

  • @uonadtehrrocks
    @uonadtehrrocks ปีที่แล้ว

    So you mention 5100's are slightly longer than 4600's. Do they have more travel then? Are 6112's the same?

  • @DDDYLN
    @DDDYLN ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone gave experience with those new Z1 Titan Swap UCAs? They look interesting, in that there are do many adjustments for aligning the front end. However, sometimes more afjustable parts cab be a bad thing, if they're not done properly. Id gate to put them on, only to gave to re-align my vehicle every 6 months.

  • @jdmoore988
    @jdmoore988 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just curious what the max tire size is with the RCKilla lift. Definitely getting one now tho

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      most people run the 285 size tire so 285/75/16 or 285/70/17

  • @christheguy5554
    @christheguy5554 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Spacers should never ever be run period. Buy new longer springs and shocks or at the very least a shock with an adjustable spring perch like a bilstien 5100. Spacers actually limit flex but on the flip side allows you to run larger tires for the ultimate mall crawler.

  • @guillaumeparkour2
    @guillaumeparkour2 ปีที่แล้ว

    so if i understood me i already put an rc lift seal if i but Offroad High Clearance Upper Control Arms my problem should be solved?

  • @CarlKahler
    @CarlKahler ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Um this didn't happen on my 2009 frontier I lifted 2in.

  • @erikgarcia8143
    @erikgarcia8143 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    do you need these for a newer Frontier too? the D41

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      yes, the new frontier shares the same frame as a 2nd gen frontier

  • @AkaBull
    @AkaBull 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Guy please update your video description. You have zero links either to your Website or Facebook.

  • @sgt.grinch3299
    @sgt.grinch3299 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do you sell tshirts? As a Nissan owner I would like to rock a shirt. Free advertisement in PA wherever I go. I plan on purchasing a New PRO-4X between June & December 2023. My lease is ending in December 2023 for my 2022 PRO-4X. I plan on upgrading the the truck for off grid camping. See you soon.

  • @paulauksztulewicz4803
    @paulauksztulewicz4803 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Where are you located?

  • @waynejohnston4648
    @waynejohnston4648 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do yiu guys ship? I'm in South Africa

  • @kolbyrowland1197
    @kolbyrowland1197 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So, to be clear: I am looking to achieve modest lift while preventing coil bucket contact. By getting a coilover lift, say with the Bilstein 5100 adjustable shocks set at 2” of lift, I will avoid CBC? I currently have the RC 2.5” spacers and they knock constantly.

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      correct. a 2" lift with Bilstein doesn't effect the overall length of the shock like a spacer.

    • @kolbyrowland1197
      @kolbyrowland1197 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AlldogsOffroadCoopsick thank you! I appreciate yall!

  • @winstoncastro7440
    @winstoncastro7440 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank's for the info 👍👍👍👍

  • @MegaLitterbox
    @MegaLitterbox ปีที่แล้ว

    So what is the worst thing that can happen with coil bucket contact? Both repeated contact and a strong impact?

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  ปีที่แล้ว

      The factory arm is stamped sheet metal and is most commonly known to break in half. We've also seen ball joints ripped out of the socket, but this is less common.

  • @edie6863
    @edie6863 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great 👍

  • @A.lowkee.savage
    @A.lowkee.savage ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone know if adding bump stops to a 2” spacer lift will stop CDC?

  • @dopey-tbh3156
    @dopey-tbh3156 ปีที่แล้ว

    how can i safely widen the stance of my frontier without spacers???

  • @unitcharles689
    @unitcharles689 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you want to advertise your product. Why not put a link in the description. I have been aware of coil bucket contact. But i have yet to see a video with the proper control arm.

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A video like this one? th-cam.com/video/InEqH047cCI/w-d-xo.html

    • @unitcharles689
      @unitcharles689 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks. Will check em out

  • @ryankinkade4246
    @ryankinkade4246 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    On a 22' Frontier, can i run the RCKilla with your 1/4" spacers and not get cbc without new UCAs? I will be using the factory shocks. This a 2×4 that wont be seeing any offroading other than the occasional dirt road. Thanks.

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      With factory shocks you should not experience cbc. If you used 5100's up front with the spacer plate you would. Keep in mind if you change your shocks down the road for 5100's you'd need high clearance uca's too. :)

    • @ryankinkade4246
      @ryankinkade4246 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the quick response.

    • @papapear4954
      @papapear4954 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AlldogsOffroadCoop Why is there no CBC with the RCKilla lift which is 2" but there is CBC with a 2" spacer lift?

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@papapear4954 the video explains why but when you use a spacer, it physically lengthens the shock assembly. a lift spring does not

  • @dahatchery
    @dahatchery ปีที่แล้ว

    I was going to do a 2.5 leveling kit to my 2016 desert runner, then add a titan swap. The Titan has bigger upper and lower control arms. Will the 2.5 spacer work with what I want to do?

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  ปีที่แล้ว

      you need more than just upper and lower control arms to titan swap, but no you cannot run a spacer and make it work. it requires a dedicated length coilover

  • @EmmanuelGonzalez-ol8du
    @EmmanuelGonzalez-ol8du 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So basically just switch out your full front suspension which is control arms, strut assembly, ball joints, tie rods, and sway bar links

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      huh? a simple high clearance UCA takes care of CBC with spacers. no need to replace everything else. nothing needs replaced if you run a traditional spring lift.

  • @MeliorIlle
    @MeliorIlle ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What about just a quarter or half inch with your UCAs? Surely that should be okay?

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Correct, if you run a high clearance aftermarket UCA you should clear

    • @MeliorIlle
      @MeliorIlle ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AlldogsOffroadCoop I have your 2 and a half inch lift kit already and I just want another 1.2 inch on the front, so I am guessing my next upgrade would be your spacer and UCA. Thanks.

  • @edgarinv
    @edgarinv ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you offer those upper arms for a Titan Swap ?? Thanks.

  • @ethanoltean
    @ethanoltean ปีที่แล้ว

    The lift coils create the same problem with CBC and their solution being the high clearance UCA. Why not save some dough and just get the UCAs

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This is incorrect. A lift coil does not create cbc.

    • @Dark_Ages_Crusader
      @Dark_Ages_Crusader ปีที่แล้ว

      Many people will argue against this, but whether you have a spacer that is 2” long, or a lift coil that is 2” longer than stock, you still have the same geometry if using stock parts. Nothing but salesmanship would change that. So why mechanically would there not be CBC with a lift coil?

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Dark_Ages_Crusader because a lift coil like what we use with a Bilstein 5100 or the Koni’s does not physically change the length of the shock. You can use our springs on the factory 4600s also and not have CBC. The coilover length is what causes CBC. So when you stack a 1.5” tall spacer on top of a coilover, you are causing CBC since you are physically changing the length of the coilover assembly.

    • @Dark_Ages_Crusader
      @Dark_Ages_Crusader ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AlldogsOffroadCoop I think I understand. Thank you for the explanation.

  • @RaRa-dk4cp
    @RaRa-dk4cp ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm running spacers right but have been wanting to get rid of it and upgrade. By my wallet doesn't allow for big upgrade. So what do you guys recommend instead of spacers that doesn't break the wallet

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Aftermarket UCAs to start. We have some that would clear the coil bucket as seen in the video.

    • @RaRa-dk4cp
      @RaRa-dk4cp ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AlldogsOffroadCoop so I can keep my spacers? Will those UCA work for sure suspension change?

  • @nataliaandetienne8221
    @nataliaandetienne8221 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where can i find this upper arm in the UAE dubai??

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you will only find them here. you can use a freight forwarder to order a pair and have the company ship them to you.

  • @nicholasrapose196
    @nicholasrapose196 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would you recommend the ADO UCAs for my 2013 xterra if I just ordered some Bilstein 6112s strut & spring pre-assembled from shocksurplus? I had shocksurplus pre-assemble them to the max height which is supposedly 1.6" of lift. I used to have the rancho quicklifts but they blew out after only a year. I don't know if I necessarily need new UCAs but my truck is 10 years old now and I'd imagine it wouldn't hurt so I had my eyes on the ADO UCAs. Also, do they have a grease fitting?

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      they wouldn't be necessary from a coil bucket contact standpoint since you aren't reaching the length to cause it with the 6112s. they will help with alignment though as they have additional caster built into them. we use moog ball joints that do come with a grease zerk.

    • @nicholasrapose196
      @nicholasrapose196 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AlldogsOffroadCoop awesome. Thanks for the reply. Probably going to get them anyway.

  • @thesurfingprospector6345
    @thesurfingprospector6345 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok so I had my mechanics put in my 2” lift kit spring and shock only
    No spacer
    I then put new Tyers and alignment they said it will keep the Kant in so will wear the Tyers on outside edge dam
    So I would need the upper control arms YES ??
    I’m not doing lots of off roading but for clearance in the Australian desert
    Looking for gold not major rock climbing
    Cheers 🍻
    CrouchOz

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you need camber bolts for the lower control arms to adjust the alignment to not wear the tires.

    • @thesurfingprospector6345
      @thesurfingprospector6345 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AlldogsOffroadCoop thank you for your instant reply guys
      I am wondering do I need them front and back
      Thank you
      CrouchOz

  • @bellcranell7650
    @bellcranell7650 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do the xterra and Pathfinder have the same suspension as the Frontier? Wgy doesn't work on this vehicles but it does on the Frontier

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  ปีที่แล้ว

      They’re all identical. Companies will say they won’t fit because they never tested them on the vehicle.

    • @mattacedo
      @mattacedo ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Would the RC kill a kit for 2015 frontier work on 2015 pathfinder ?

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mattacedo no, it would not

  • @terryaming9580
    @terryaming9580 หลายเดือนก่อน

    But aren't there extended ball joints?

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  หลายเดือนก่อน

      extended ball joints are a bandaid fix.

    • @terryaming9580
      @terryaming9580 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AlldogsOffroadCoop can you explain?

  • @soyyoflacko6169
    @soyyoflacko6169 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have 1/2 spacers on my Nissan Frontier 2007 and never gave me problems

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  ปีที่แล้ว

      1/2 may not cause issues but any spacer over 1" will cause CBC. no truck is immune to it after 1"

  • @1393floyd
    @1393floyd 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does the contact cause any issues or is just mostly annoying??

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it can cause the upper ball joint to come out of the control arm.

    • @1393floyd
      @1393floyd 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AlldogsOffroadCoop common?

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@1393floyd it can be if it hits hard enough over a period of time.

  • @jaredhayward2323
    @jaredhayward2323 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've seen people do the spacers on these and when they do they swap the struts left to right, would that prevent or help with the CBC?

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  ปีที่แล้ว

      there is no way around CBC with spacers. no magic tricks that can make it go away haha. coilovers are the same regardless of side.

    • @jaredhayward2323
      @jaredhayward2323 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AlldogsOffroadCoop thats what i thought too, but almost every install video i watch they all switch the coil overs left to right...also i see lift struts (Ranchos) that have different part numbers from left to right :/ little confused by it

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jaredhayward2323 the drop bracket lift for the frontier requires the tie rods to be switched. maybe that's what you're seeing.

    • @jaredhayward2323
      @jaredhayward2323 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AlldogsOffroadCoop nope, was definitely struts SF creation was where i first saw it...maybe it was just for that particular lift i dunno just thought it was weird since they aren't side specific 🤷‍♂️

  • @9MilNorm
    @9MilNorm 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If ADO would create a 3-1/2 suspension lift for the Gen 2 and 3 frontiers, they couldn’t keep em on the shelf.

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Max you can do suspension, is 3” on factory geometry. We sell plenty of our fox extended travel kits.

  • @jessefenner8673
    @jessefenner8673 ปีที่แล้ว

    So I’ve got a 13 sv 2wd I got suspension from a pro4x stock would I be able to run a rough country leveling kit on it with no cbc

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  ปีที่แล้ว

      No. The spacer we used in the video was a rough country spacer. You will get it just as much as any other Nissan.

    • @jessefenner8673
      @jessefenner8673 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AlldogsOffroadCoop so how can I get this shit leveled without it

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jessefenner8673 a lift coilover will get you the height you need without causing CBC. also if you plan on using the truck as a truck at any time, leveling will just leave you nose high if you put anything in the bed. rake is a functional piece to a suspension

  • @zacharyfelts7108
    @zacharyfelts7108 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this only for 4wd

  • @DDDYLN
    @DDDYLN ปีที่แล้ว

    I think any over a 2" spacer, and you're going to have problems

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  ปีที่แล้ว

      our 1/2" spacer on top of 5100s can cause CBC so a 2" spacer will cause CBC

    • @DDDYLN
      @DDDYLN ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AlldogsOffroadCoop somehow I got lucky. I have a Pro-4X, but that shouldn't make a difference. My UCAs clear the coil buckets when drooping.

    • @DDDYLN
      @DDDYLN ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AlldogsOffroadCoop well, you were correct. I do have coil bucket contact. It was in a spot I couldn't see. I'm going to Titan Swap in the future anyway, so no big deal. It's nothing that can't be pounded out.

  • @throttlebuff
    @throttlebuff 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bummer

  • @samueluseumalo5510
    @samueluseumalo5510 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How about a 11/2 Spacer???

  • @wFullSnakeOilHighMileageSynthe
    @wFullSnakeOilHighMileageSynthe 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Do the NISMO spacers work on the latest Pro-4X?

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not sure... We don't condone spacer kits either.