I'm using Kinetic rope from miolle that i bought in amazon. This is an invaluable investment if you are into snowmobiling in remote areas with no cellular coverage. My wife and I were able to pull one of our 600 lb snowmobiles (they are absolute monster machines) out of a 3 foot deep snowbank at 8pm in the deep of winter, up in the mountains in pitch darkness! The kinetic rope allowed the recovery to go smoothly. Took less than 3 minutes to hook it up to the snowmobile still on the trail, and under 30 seconds to extract! Only other accessory you need is a pair of those U shaped loop things. Shoveling and trying to pull it out with a Snow bungee is for the birds! This was Effortless! We won’t leave home without it!
Used a kenetic rope over 20 years ago in Africa. Worked very well but bulky. Didn't do the aggressive pull like a snatch strap. Just put it under tension and pulled gently. Wonderful. ... Defender 110
The armed forces use big kinetic ropes to recover heavy trucks and tracked vehicles. BTW I also use mine with my rope winch to preload trees when felling them so they go precisely where I want them. I love kinetic ropes!
@@Comm0ut I was watching a few other videos and what I learned is that kinetic recovery ropes can be used many MANY times before they wear out. But the downside is they are bulky/heavy. However, a kinetic snatch strap is just as strong, but not as durable, good for maybe 10 to 15 recoveries before it gets worn out. Although the upside is it's really compact and lightweight. We chose the snatch strap, since we don't intend on doing terrain that would require many recoveries and we are very space limited (we travel with 6 people in the vehicle).
The biggest benefit of a snatch rope over a strap is that they are good for over a hundred recoveries. A strap loses its stretch after 6 or 7 recoveries.
Winch dampers full of sand are only good for dyneema winching. When a bag of sand is used on a snatch strap that fails, you have a heavy bag that likes to fly. They put big holes in windscreens. Also, when doing quite severe recoveries, put the bonnet on the bogged car up. It makes a very useful sheild and the bonnet will stop most things going through your windshield and tearing your face off.
9:23 you dont get 40% stretch, you get the same 20%(x2) for example 20' strap stretches 4'. 2 20' connected would stretch 8' which is double but twice as long. the percentage of stretch remains the same
I think what he meant is the distance the stretch is from the point the straps are taught to the point the straps stops stretching is 40% of the distance compared to just one.
An old bit of carpet is great help in sand especially if you think you are towing a trailer, simply lay the carpet in front of the trailer and it won't drag in as badly
Helpful information here. doubling the snatch straps does potentially double the dampening effect...not in percentage terms but we knew what you meant - good tip 👍🏻
I always appreciate your honest and presumably unbiased opinions about the 4wd culture. Look forward to anything you have to offer less uniformed 4wdrivers like me.
Thanks for the info on those blocks you ratchet strap to each wheel. I saw the ads and thought that they'd be worth a go. Saved me a lot of frustration I reckon. Much appreciated.
Thanks cobber anchor in boat usage situation works because of chain weight if you hand pull long chain over sand or even packed flat mud it's quite hard to do cheers good simple advice
@@navagiopoint without having ever used one myself and only having seen them being used on TV, i would say: they use it in denser ground. (not loose dry sand)
Nice talking with Torben at the expo. You were chatting with the beard wax guy so I didn't interrupt. Glad you made it to our great state. Looking forward to seeing what you all do in Moab.
How am I suppose to jump through the video? It's ALL interesting and necessary information...if i jump I'm actually worried I missed something VERY important to know...great job!
Ronnie, I agree with your assessment and experience with anchors because you drive mostly on sand. Here in Scotland where its wet thick clay mud, this anchors work a treat. Although to be fair we have so many trees it's unusual to have nothing to winch off. The hardest part is the opposite to your experience : getting the bloody things out again afterwards. Sometimes difficult and always very messy!
Nice stuff, thanks for your input. However 20% stretch plus additional length at 20% stretch (with another recovery strap) is still 20%. you just get additional length due to the extra length. If however you add a tow strap (3-8% stretch) to a recovery strap (20-30% stretch) you get additional length to put the recovery vehicle in a better position but little additional stretch. The system stretch is at a lower percentage but the same as your Recovery strap.
I use Trac Grabbers . I put two on each wheel and they get me through mud . You need to test them . They grab on mud or sand. You have to go slow or they will dig in.
From the video, quote: "I think the Americans brought out the soft shackel first". ...Well, yes, no, or: it is hard to say where its origin was. The splice and knot combination was not dependent on the Dyneema rope product (the Netherlands 1968) or first polymerisation of UHMWPE material (Germany 1950s). It is quite new to the 4x4 world, but to mariners it is very old knowledge. To quote Sail Magazine: "Strops, grommets and shackles made from rope were found on every sailing ship for hundreds of years". In the sailing world, the group of knot combinations called rope shackles are based on various knots, like the button knot, diamond knot, the Celtic knot, the Norse (viking) Valknut, and various other multi-strand knots of rope as bracelets, loops and ties, in any required length... So, for more than a 1000 years, these techniques have been around as readily available quick-fixes, passed from each generation to the next, and they were made both tiny and large, simple or strong, for different marine uses as required. A central source of information: "The Ashley Book of Knots by Clifford W. Ashley was published in 1944 by Doubleday publ., New York. It is a stunning compilation of knots and their uses. Nothing comparable has been published since, and it remains the authoritative source." Knots tying is an art, and I guess fewer modern people, except professional fishermen and sailors, master the art like previous generations did... Anyway, the Ashley Book of Knots is one well organised documentation of an old art, and it's still there to educate us modern people. What remains: for us, so many generations later, it is hard to say if that knot combination is American, Asian, European or African. But a modern invention, the soft shackle (rope shackle) is certainly not. Cheers, mates!
Well stated. I was going to say something similar, although not in as much detail, that these soft shackles have been around for hundreds of years on sailing ships. But, you can bet your arse, that the Americans will insist that they 'invented' it. They have 'invented' pretty much everything that's ever been invented ... according to them.
@@davidhuett3579 Oh, I agree. Another area of such 'inventions' is Aerospace: In many cases, both theory and invention was made by prominent inventors in Germany, Russia, UK, France, Italy, New Zealand, Brazil, Bulgaria, etc, even decades before. Knowledge was collected and studied further. Göttingen school aeronautical theory and engineering dominance ended in 1945, as Germany lost WW2. Unfortunately, the original source of invention is not always referenced. Another 'outsider': Richard Pearse, farmer/inventor in New Zealand, witnesses claim his first flight happened on 31 March 1903, nine months before the Wright brothers in USA. Pearse, modestly, said that many did the same invention. During 1945-1947, USA quickly captured some German inventions and PoW (1,800 German scientists/engineers/technicians and 3,700 family members through US Operation Overcast, Paperclip, and Seahorse) as new citizens and NASA employees to continue their research/work and make the great post-war inventions for USA, developed a range of military aircrafts and brought them to the Moon. In any way, the required theories and foundations had still been developed and proved at 'foreign' institutes/manufacturers, and based on generations of knowledge accumulated and taught by professors at universities in the old world.
Awesome video Ronny! Super bummed we missed talking with you at Overland Expo West this year. You looked swamped with fans so we will catch up later on. Hope you enjoyed the expo man.
Starting to dabble in offroad adventures. Thanks for the video! I found this very informative. I need to get a kinetic strap or two. I have a tow strap, but this makes more sense. Time to go!!
I have a land anchor, it works great. You could say that the design is similar, but way bigger when it´s deployed, and smaller when you have to put it away. Tryed it in sand and mud, by myself, just one person to do the job, and it works as it´s supposed to work. I used the "Pull Pal" once and it worked ok, but then I´ve built my own but a lot stronger... The only drawback... it´s the heavyest thing on my jeep.
@@JustPete65 For Australia I believe a standard winch cradle is much easier as I haven't seen any approved system that install a regular tow hitch up front. The part you are searching for is portable winch cradle. The rest is just using a standard winch and having suitable Anderson plugs for the current. Winches can draw upwards of 400amps@12v.
Sorry to have miss you at Expo. I made the decision to go on Tuesday night reasoning that if you could come all the way from Western Australia, I could certainly drive 12 hours to attend. I hope you thoroughly enjoyed the event and that you have a ball with the Patriot crew in Utah.
It's "Kinetic" not kenetic, kenitic... and using 2 ropes don't give you 40% stretch but the amount of stretch (in meters) gets longer because one 10 meter rope can stretch to 12 meters, using two of them will give you 4 meters of stretch in total.
you EMPHASIZED that this was all YOUR opinion-- but from what I"ve seen on here... I will go WITH your opinion-- so far all I've seen is based on basic SCIENCE- and safety- and I value your opinion over others I've seen on here.. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK-- you're saving a lot of lives from stupid mistakes.. Very probably MINE too.
For a sand-anchor, you might borrow a Mantis marine anchor from a boating mate. With the right scope of line, they bury themselves in sand very well and are relied on by many boaters. I have one on my 23' powered catamaran.
My Grandfather drove around Australia in a Series 1 Landrover with a Kerosene fridge in the back - he had an axe, a swag and a gun for company. You lot have gone soft with all the shit you think you need.
got bogged to the axles two days ago in super soft sand in a Jeep and just jacked up each wheel with a bottle jack and put driftwood under them and drove out. Been bogged many times and only ever used a single bottle jack to get out. I have no room for even 1/4 of all that gear.
Years ago the only thing we had was a ships hawser, bulky as, but did the job no probs, not sure of the stretch but had plenty, go down to a wharf and watch a ship swinging in and out. Mr Buckaroonie tried a brand of stretchy rope and was able to snap it after a few attempts
Another great video Ronny :) I love having all the gear, but it weighs HEAPS and takes up a load of room in the D4...... can't wait to see what you have in store for your "Recovery Kits.... what to have and what to Ditch" video that's coming up!!! :) Cheers, Don (Dons Shed and Xplor Overland)
those strap on wheels device should be awsome on steep wet grass... one day we had a 2wd truck on a steep remote farm paddock. rain came,,, couldnt get out in time .. the old man grabbed a chain and wrapped it around one back wheel one turn and secured it with a shackle.. it tore hunks of grass.. every time the chain touch grass the truck would inch foward untill momentum built. got out
Here’s a video request for you Ronnie is recovery gear maintenance I ain’t been able to find a video online as to the best way to care for clean and maintain your gear whether it’s straps or shackles or snatch blocks
anchors are very popular where I live and they work great. I think its unfair to review the anchor and those tire straps in such a soft and dry sand, because they werent made for it
Really great video Ronny! Were you at Overland Expo West this weekend? I was speaking with a rep for Redarc Australia and he said you were filming there.
Ah nice solutions there Ronny, however if you are dealing with GVM upgrades from the stock 2.5 tons/tonnes 7.5 tons would be a minimum standard snatch because you have to allow for twice to 3 times the weight of vehicle youe snatching or even towing. so if you are somewhere within 4.5-7.5 ton in GVM twice the weight 9-15 tons and triple the weight is 13.5-24.5 tom.. you most likely will be needing to ugrade your chassis rails to accommodate the towing and recovery needs i would also consider and a-frame towing linkage ,,,
Hi Ronny So helpful information about recovery gears. But you actually used the worst sand anchor I encourage your to try PullPal anchor it well amaze you how helpful it is especially when you be alone.
Love this video, never thought of two bottle jacks but then again, I never had to use one yet. I have to disagree with the sand anchor though, they work great, problem is you bought a crappy one. The main problem is the angle of the main pulling bar on that unit that's all wrong. I have a Pull Pal, the original one, not the fake stuff and it's awesome and I've tested it in sand and snow and this thing digs like crazy. It's like Maxtrax's and the black crappy ones that break, same thing with the sand anchor, you just have to buy the right one.
When moisture is a problem use a ramp. there's no other option except a never ending chain. Personally I carry a pair of rubber Bobcat tracks, I always use granddaddy low and walk out you never run out, you don't want the track to flip and cut your tires.
If the dampers were physically attached to each end they could act as steamers or parachutes and slow down the broken lines but they aren't, the reason you one in the middle is so you create a larger dip in the line so if something breaks on the right side it heads DOWN the dip into the ground and if something breaks on the left side it springs towards the middle dip AKA towards the ground.
I could see those anchors and blocks not working in sand. Where I live we got trees, trees, and more trees, so portable anchor points aren't really a thing.
Kenetic recovery rope anyway of the week. Yes bulkier but no obvious week fail point with a stronger more foolproof construction easier to clean and pack up extra stretch if using the appropriate size makes it easier on vehicles and easier to handle
I have seen videos of the Pull Pal (sand anchor) that show it works well in sand. Isn't complicated or difficult. Don't know if they are sold in your part of the world. Videos demonstrated in the fine sand in areas like Utah. Harder to drive in than beach sand so I assume they work in any sand.
Generally, if you have any type of pulley, it should match the diameter of the rope/cable. It will provide more support. Custom pre-fabbed recovery points seems to be more of an Australia thing. In the U.S. it seems to be(admittedly, I haven't looked in a while) hard enough to just find tow hooks. Even pre-1990 U.S. 4x4 trucks often did not come with front tow hooks. After that, they seemed to become standard equipment, tho.
Planning a road trip not expecting to go full 4x4 off-road except maybe a gravel track or compacted sandy approach road to a beach… in addition to usual tire changing gear… top 3-5 things to carry (not a winch)..?
Hi ronny... it's wonderful and very educational video for someone like me (newbies)... thank you... I need a favour from you.. can you make a video on the apperal ( shirt shoes glove and any other things on the body) shoes when entering mud, sand and rocks... summer, rainy, Thank you in advance
Gday Ronny, first of all I just want to say I love your work. However may I Suggest that if you are going to do comparisons of the top of the range Matrax that you compare it to the the top of the range TRED PRO and not the standard Treds. Cheers
Just wondering if that folding spade with built in spike comes with an NSN. As the saying goes "if you're not shopping commonwealth, you're paying too much" 😂
Hi Ronny thank you for the video great overview. I think in terrain where you have harder sand (like in Europe) the sandanker could work better, at those places the deadman would be useless because you need hours to digg that thing in. Best wishes for your US Trip.
Hi Ronny, The Sand Anchor is actually called a ground Anchor over in the UK, the Soil ground doesn't move as freely as the beautiful WA sand, Great video, love it
From South Africa. I wold like a chapter on spades. What length of handle, which blade is better, spade / coal-spade / pointed blade -shovel... personally i use a standard length shaft with a blade that is both curved and poined.. However i have seen shafts of around 6' and at 75 i think that would be a big advantage.....Your thoughts ? RGDS Warren
I'm using Kinetic rope from miolle that i bought in amazon. This is an invaluable investment if you are into snowmobiling in remote areas with no cellular coverage. My wife and I were able to pull one of our 600 lb snowmobiles (they are absolute monster machines) out of a 3 foot deep snowbank at 8pm in the deep of winter, up in the mountains in pitch darkness! The kinetic rope allowed the recovery to go smoothly. Took less than 3 minutes to hook it up to the snowmobile still on the trail, and under 30 seconds to extract! Only other accessory you need is a pair of those U shaped loop things. Shoveling and trying to pull it out with a Snow bungee is for the birds! This was Effortless! We won’t leave home without it!
Haha, Ninja roll followed by the, I'm not 20 any more grunt :)
Used a kenetic rope over 20 years ago in Africa. Worked very well but bulky. Didn't do the aggressive pull like a snatch strap. Just put it under tension and pulled gently. Wonderful. ... Defender 110
The armed forces use big kinetic ropes to recover heavy trucks and tracked vehicles. BTW I also use mine with my rope winch to preload trees when felling them so they go precisely where I want them. I love kinetic ropes!
@@Comm0ut I was watching a few other videos and what I learned is that kinetic recovery ropes can be used many MANY times before they wear out. But the downside is they are bulky/heavy. However, a kinetic snatch strap is just as strong, but not as durable, good for maybe 10 to 15 recoveries before it gets worn out. Although the upside is it's really compact and lightweight.
We chose the snatch strap, since we don't intend on doing terrain that would require many recoveries and we are very space limited (we travel with 6 people in the vehicle).
Haha the entry to each video is brilliant. Comedic genius. That's what keeps me coming back!
The biggest benefit of a snatch rope over a strap is that they are good for over a hundred recoveries. A strap loses its stretch after 6 or 7 recoveries.
I think they work on a 10% loss per recovery.
Matt from Winder Towing: "Nah, that's too much weight! I just need 30 feet of Yankum rope." 😂
As usual, excellent info. Your trip videos are great but these instructional / info ones are excellent for a 4WD newbie like me
Winch dampers full of sand are only good for dyneema winching.
When a bag of sand is used on a snatch strap that fails, you have a heavy bag that likes to fly. They put big holes in windscreens.
Also, when doing quite severe recoveries, put the bonnet on the bogged car up. It makes a very useful sheild and the bonnet will stop most things going through your windshield and tearing your face off.
Genius. I’ve never even thought of it.
so how do you see where you are going once out?
What’s a bonnet?
Did I just hear an Aussie say “A to Zee”? Bloody hell, mate! 😜
9:23 you dont get 40% stretch, you get the same 20%(x2) for example 20' strap stretches 4'. 2 20' connected would stretch 8' which is double but twice as long. the percentage of stretch remains the same
...or....*it's magic*
yeah that hurt my ears but we all know what he means :P
I think what he meant is the distance the stretch is from the point the straps are taught to the point the straps stops stretching is 40% of the distance compared to just one.
@@SebastianLong That would be 200% stretch then. We knew what he meant though.
"You don't needs to be a physikist to knows what matters."
An old bit of carpet is great help in sand especially if you think you are towing a trailer, simply lay the carpet in front of the trailer and it won't drag in as badly
Helpful information here. doubling the snatch straps does potentially double the dampening effect...not in percentage terms but we knew what you meant - good tip 👍🏻
I always appreciate your honest and presumably unbiased opinions about the 4wd culture. Look forward to anything you have to offer less uniformed 4wdrivers like me.
Thanks for the info on those blocks you ratchet strap to each wheel. I saw the ads and thought that they'd be worth a go. Saved me a lot of frustration I reckon. Much appreciated.
Happy to help
Thanks cobber anchor in boat usage situation works because of chain weight if you hand pull long chain over sand or even packed flat mud it's quite hard to do cheers good simple advice
The thing you call a “sand anchor” is more like a ground anchor, we use them alot in Denmark 😉👍🏼
great! how do you guys make them work~
@@navagiopoint without having ever used one myself and only having seen them being used on TV, i would say: they use it in denser ground. (not loose dry sand)
Nice talking with Torben at the expo. You were chatting with the beard wax guy so I didn't interrupt. Glad you made it to our great state. Looking forward to seeing what you all do in Moab.
How am I suppose to jump through the video? It's ALL interesting and necessary information...if i jump I'm actually worried I missed something VERY important to know...great job!
Nice to chat with you and Torbs and Amalia
best entrance yet sir ..
Ronnie, I agree with your assessment and experience with anchors because you drive mostly on sand. Here in Scotland where its wet thick clay mud, this anchors work a treat. Although to be fair we have so many trees it's unusual to have nothing to winch off. The hardest part is the opposite to your experience : getting the bloody things out again afterwards. Sometimes difficult and always very messy!
Nice stuff, thanks for your input. However 20% stretch plus additional length at 20% stretch (with another recovery strap) is still 20%. you just get additional length due to the extra length. If however you add a tow strap (3-8% stretch) to a recovery strap (20-30% stretch) you get additional length to put the recovery vehicle in a better position but little additional stretch. The system stretch is at a lower percentage but the same as your Recovery strap.
I use Trac Grabbers . I put two on each wheel and they get me through mud . You need to test them . They grab on mud or sand. You have to go slow or they will dig in.
From the video, quote: "I think the Americans brought out the soft shackel first". ...Well, yes, no, or: it is hard to say where its origin was. The splice and knot combination was not dependent on the Dyneema rope product (the Netherlands 1968) or first polymerisation of UHMWPE material (Germany 1950s). It is quite new to the 4x4 world, but to mariners it is very old knowledge. To quote Sail Magazine: "Strops, grommets and shackles made from rope were found on every sailing ship for hundreds of years". In the sailing world, the group of knot combinations called rope shackles are based on various knots, like the button knot, diamond knot, the Celtic knot, the Norse (viking) Valknut, and various other multi-strand knots of rope as bracelets, loops and ties, in any required length... So, for more than a 1000 years, these techniques have been around as readily available quick-fixes, passed from each generation to the next, and they were made both tiny and large, simple or strong, for different marine uses as required. A central source of information: "The Ashley Book of Knots by Clifford W. Ashley was published in 1944 by Doubleday publ., New York. It is a stunning compilation of knots and their uses. Nothing comparable has been published since, and it remains the authoritative source." Knots tying is an art, and I guess fewer modern people, except professional fishermen and sailors, master the art like previous generations did... Anyway, the Ashley Book of Knots is one well organised documentation of an old art, and it's still there to educate us modern people. What remains: for us, so many generations later, it is hard to say if that knot combination is American, Asian, European or African. But a modern invention, the soft shackle (rope shackle) is certainly not. Cheers, mates!
To paraphrase Claude Rains in Casablanca, "serves me right for not being nautical."
Well stated.
I was going to say something similar, although not in as much detail, that these soft shackles have been around for hundreds of years on sailing ships.
But, you can bet your arse, that the Americans will insist that they 'invented' it. They have 'invented' pretty much everything that's ever been invented ... according to them.
@@davidhuett3579 Oh, I agree. Another area of such 'inventions' is Aerospace:
In many cases, both theory and invention was made by prominent inventors in Germany, Russia, UK, France, Italy, New Zealand, Brazil, Bulgaria, etc, even decades before. Knowledge was collected and studied further. Göttingen school aeronautical theory and engineering dominance ended in 1945, as Germany lost WW2. Unfortunately, the original source of invention is not always referenced. Another 'outsider': Richard Pearse, farmer/inventor in New Zealand, witnesses claim his first flight happened on 31 March 1903, nine months before the Wright brothers in USA. Pearse, modestly, said that many did the same invention.
During 1945-1947, USA quickly captured some German inventions and PoW (1,800 German scientists/engineers/technicians and 3,700 family members through US Operation Overcast, Paperclip, and Seahorse) as new citizens and NASA employees to continue their research/work and make the great post-war inventions for USA, developed a range of military aircrafts and brought them to the Moon. In any way, the required theories and foundations had still been developed and proved at 'foreign' institutes/manufacturers, and based on generations of knowledge accumulated and taught by professors at universities in the old world.
Awesome video Ronny! Super bummed we missed talking with you at Overland Expo West this year. You looked swamped with fans so we will catch up later on. Hope you enjoyed the expo man.
No probs mate I plan to be back again next year
Mate, I love your videos they are honest and your not pushing products, just facts from experience 👍
Starting to dabble in offroad adventures. Thanks for the video! I found this very informative. I need to get a kinetic strap or two. I have a tow strap, but this makes more sense. Time to go!!
I have a land anchor, it works great. You could say that the design is similar, but way bigger when it´s deployed, and smaller when you have to put it away. Tryed it in sand and mud, by myself, just one person to do the job, and it works as it´s supposed to work. I used the "Pull Pal" once and it worked ok, but then I´ve built my own but a lot stronger... The only drawback... it´s the heavyest thing on my jeep.
6:15 best use for that gear - upper cuts. :D Enjoying your informative contents. cheers!!!!
you covered it very well Ronny, I use a bottle jack and have tried and now use a trolley jack, bit heavy and big but works well and safe to use
Can you please do something with portable winches that you can hook on the front and back?
This would be really useful for those of us that dont have bull bars or cant afford a winch!
Yes please
Manual or electric?
@@HardstylePete electric.... I used one in Africa in the mid 90s but can't find anything now
@@JustPete65 For Australia I believe a standard winch cradle is much easier as I haven't seen any approved system that install a regular tow hitch up front.
The part you are searching for is portable winch cradle. The rest is just using a standard winch and having suitable Anderson plugs for the current. Winches can draw upwards of 400amps@12v.
Precise, logical, straightforward no bs information. Thanks mate!
Sorry to have miss you at Expo. I made the decision to go on Tuesday night reasoning that if you could come all the way from Western Australia, I could certainly drive 12 hours to attend. I hope you thoroughly enjoyed the event and that you have a ball with the Patriot crew in Utah.
It's "Kinetic" not kenetic, kenitic... and using 2 ropes don't give you 40% stretch but the amount of stretch (in meters) gets longer because one 10 meter rope can stretch to 12 meters, using two of them will give you 4 meters of stretch in total.
The entrance😅 careful to pull something
Great info. Chains are very usefull on mud. Not for recover but to get more traccion. Saludos!
you EMPHASIZED that this was all YOUR opinion-- but from what I"ve seen on here... I will go WITH your opinion-- so far all I've seen is based on basic SCIENCE- and safety- and I value your opinion over others I've seen on here.. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK-- you're saving a lot of lives from stupid mistakes..
Very probably MINE too.
For a sand-anchor, you might borrow a Mantis marine anchor from a boating mate. With the right scope of line, they bury themselves in sand very well and are relied on by many boaters. I have one on my 23' powered catamaran.
My Grandfather drove around Australia in a Series 1 Landrover with a Kerosene fridge in the back - he had an axe, a swag and a gun for company.
You lot have gone soft with all the shit you think you need.
got bogged to the axles two days ago in super soft sand in a Jeep and just jacked up each wheel with a bottle jack and put driftwood under them and drove out. Been bogged many times and only ever used a single bottle jack to get out. I have no room for even 1/4 of all that gear.
Years ago the only thing we had was a ships hawser, bulky as, but did the job no probs, not sure of the stretch but had plenty, go down to a wharf and watch a ship swinging in and out. Mr Buckaroonie tried a brand of stretchy rope and was able to snap it after a few attempts
Another great video Ronny :) I love having all the gear, but it weighs HEAPS and takes up a load of room in the D4...... can't wait to see what you have in store for your "Recovery Kits.... what to have and what to Ditch" video that's coming up!!! :) Cheers, Don (Dons Shed and Xplor Overland)
those strap on wheels device should be awsome on steep wet grass... one day we had a 2wd truck on a steep remote farm paddock. rain came,,, couldnt get out in time .. the old man grabbed a chain and wrapped it around one back wheel one turn and secured it with a shackle.. it tore hunks of grass.. every time the chain touch grass the truck would inch foward untill momentum built. got out
Here’s a video request for you Ronnie is recovery gear maintenance I ain’t been able to find a video online as to the best way to care for clean and maintain your gear whether it’s straps or shackles or snatch blocks
Good stuff . if you live in snow and ice country, chains are the way to go
"Its like pepsi and cola" sold!
Kept seeing so many boring videos and then I see this guy do a half ass combat roll into his video....and here I sit, watching attentively 😁👍🏻
anchors are very popular where I live and they work great. I think its unfair to review the anchor and those tire straps in such a soft and dry sand, because they werent made for it
Hey Ronny love the clips mate .. you did a great job but missed a tried and tested oldy the Mud and the Snow Chains
Starting to get into recovery gear and learning splices and stuff, this video was a great help man! Much appreciated :)
Really great video Ronny! Were you at Overland Expo West this weekend? I was speaking with a rep for Redarc Australia and he said you were filming there.
Yep I’m here right now
14:30 spit my coffee, thank you!
Best intro yet.
Ah nice solutions there Ronny, however if you are dealing with GVM upgrades from the stock 2.5 tons/tonnes 7.5 tons would be a minimum standard snatch because you have to allow for twice to 3 times the weight of vehicle youe snatching or even towing.
so if you are somewhere within 4.5-7.5 ton in GVM twice the weight 9-15 tons and triple the weight is 13.5-24.5 tom..
you most likely will be needing to ugrade your chassis rails to accommodate the towing and recovery needs
i would also consider and a-frame towing linkage ,,,
Good infoJason thanks - never knew the "3 times rule".
Great video Ronny
Fantastic info!
Hi Ronny
So helpful information about recovery gears. But you actually used the worst sand anchor
I encourage your to try PullPal anchor it well amaze you how helpful it is especially when you be alone.
Add two snatch straps together and you now get 40% stretch?? I’m pretty sure the % stays the same.
Love this video, never thought of two bottle jacks but then again, I never had to use one yet. I have to disagree with the sand anchor though, they work great, problem is you bought a crappy one. The main problem is the angle of the main pulling bar on that unit that's all wrong. I have a Pull Pal, the original one, not the fake stuff and it's awesome and I've tested it in sand and snow and this thing digs like crazy. It's like Maxtrax's and the black crappy ones that break, same thing with the sand anchor, you just have to buy the right one.
This is the kind of of content I love
Thanks!
When moisture is a problem use a ramp. there's no other option except a never ending chain. Personally I carry a pair of rubber Bobcat tracks, I always use granddaddy low and walk out you never run out, you don't want the track to flip and cut your tires.
If the dampers were physically attached to each end they could act as steamers or parachutes and slow down the broken lines but they aren't, the reason you one in the middle is so you create a larger dip in the line so if something breaks on the right side it heads DOWN the dip into the ground and if something breaks on the left side it springs towards the middle dip AKA towards the ground.
Gosh yeah, we used to use floor mats before maxtraxx were invented haha.
You do a good job Ronnie
the best high lift jack base is a nice bit of solid red wood.
Love that roll Ronny!
I could see those anchors and blocks not working in sand. Where I live we got trees, trees, and more trees, so portable anchor points aren't really a thing.
Great video. Thanks for the good info!!!👍
Kenetic recovery rope anyway of the week. Yes bulkier but no obvious week fail point with a stronger more foolproof construction easier to clean and pack up extra stretch if using the appropriate size makes it easier on vehicles and easier to handle
Highly recommend the American pro eagle jack with the maxxtrax base plate, would be cool if they could send one out to Ronny to feature
I have seen videos of the Pull Pal (sand anchor) that show it works well in sand. Isn't complicated or difficult. Don't know if they are sold in your part of the world. Videos demonstrated in the fine sand in areas like Utah. Harder to drive in than beach sand so I assume they work in any sand.
Awesome video Ronny! 👍🏻👍🏻
Generally, if you have any type of pulley, it should match the diameter of the rope/cable. It will provide more support.
Custom pre-fabbed recovery points seems to be more of an Australia thing. In the U.S. it seems to be(admittedly, I haven't looked in a while) hard enough to just find tow hooks.
Even pre-1990 U.S. 4x4 trucks often did not come with front tow hooks. After that, they seemed to become standard equipment, tho.
Use a kinetic rope for mud bogging and it is better than the other strap because it is less jerky and it was stronger
Awesome info!! Was looking for info on those soft shackles!!
Daaaaamn! Your Cruiser is heavy!
Cheers mate 😎🍻
Great informative video - Thanks !!!
F*ck yes Ronny, loved the introduction!
Great, comprehensive video.
Weird question: what boots is Ronny wearing?
Those small maxtrax would be great for zooks
Reckon the deadman bag could also work as a front end cover during a water crossing?
Planning a road trip not expecting to go full 4x4 off-road except maybe a gravel track or compacted sandy approach road to a beach… in addition to usual tire changing gear… top 3-5 things to carry (not a winch)..?
Look into bubba ropes. Kinetic ropes are the future of snatch recovery.
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Nice one Ronny good to know what to use 😎
Need six of those tire straps per wheel to achieve anything.
Hi ronny... it's wonderful and very educational video for someone like me (newbies)... thank you... I need a favour from you.. can you make a video on the apperal ( shirt shoes glove and any other things on the body) shoes when entering mud, sand and rocks... summer, rainy,
Thank you in advance
Jump points in the video gets a thumbs up!
Sucks arb dont make front recover points for Jimnys
Gday Ronny, first of all I just want to say I love your work. However may I Suggest that if you are going to do comparisons of the top of the range Matrax that you compare it to the the top of the range TRED PRO and not the standard Treds. Cheers
Awesome video and information!!!
Hi Ronny, what about Trac Grabbers and Truck Claws, please share your thoughts, thank you
Just wondering if that folding spade with built in spike comes with an NSN. As the saying goes "if you're not shopping commonwealth, you're paying too much" 😂
Dude. A sand anchor! Lol. Not just me that had a bad time.. really more of a remote plow.
Sorry that I didn't get to meet you at the Overland Expo. How did you like it and how was your US camping trip?
Have you done a video on that Jeep Cherokee you show near the end of this video?
Hi Ronny thank you for the video great overview. I think in terrain where you have harder sand (like in Europe) the sandanker could work better, at those places the deadman would be useless because you need hours to digg that thing in.
Best wishes for your US Trip.
Hi Ronny, The Sand Anchor is actually called a ground Anchor over in the UK, the Soil ground doesn't move as freely as the beautiful WA sand, Great video, love it
From South Africa. I wold like a chapter on spades. What length of handle, which blade is better, spade / coal-spade / pointed blade -shovel... personally i use a standard length shaft with a blade that is both curved and poined.. However i have seen shafts of around 6' and at 75 i think that would be a big advantage.....Your thoughts ? RGDS Warren
Very nice. As always love the content!!