How to get Demigod & My Thoughts on the AP System | Dark and Darker

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  • Yo, in this video Im going over the strategy I used to get from Exemplar 1 to Demigod as well as my thoughts and impressions of the AP system after now having done the Demigod grind for the first time, I do a lot of yapping in this video just a heads up! Hope you enjoy the Video!! #darkanddarkerclips #darkanddarkergameplay #warlock #fighter #rogue #bard #gold #gaming #dad #guide #build
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  • @VinisKitchen22
    @VinisKitchen22  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hey guys, I really appreciate all of the comments and feedback on this video, just want to quickly throw in here that if any of you are interested in having me react to your clips in a video to please join the discord and submit your clips to the "Send me your clips" channel! Thanks again for the support and feedback! :)

  • @Zak-jt6nk
    @Zak-jt6nk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Troll and cyclops just needs multiple escapes from the loot room that can only be used from inside

    • @VinisKitchen22
      @VinisKitchen22  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think this would be interesting but Im pretty sure a lot of people wouldnt like it because rogues could just run to the boss kill it, loot the pile and then go rat the whole game without being contested. If the extra exits were somehow also relatively contestable then Id be interested in trying it!

  • @lukevaillancourt4071
    @lukevaillancourt4071 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My suggestion for goblin caves bosses is to have an additional open door that leads to a stair case with a drop, kind of like that one spawn in crypts or the drop in the bottom right room on ghost king map, that way there is an exit that is only accessible from the inside of the boss room

  • @WellDoneOnTheInternetEverybody
    @WellDoneOnTheInternetEverybody 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Entry fee should be next to nothing, or maybe create a per game modification system where depending on the amount of pvp kills you get itll make your next games entry cheaper.

    • @VinisKitchen22
      @VinisKitchen22  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I kind of agree that the entry fee should be much less steep and potentially making it more negative if you actually die. So that way you can still play the game in a fun way without pissing away your rank. Which currently I just have to retire my main character now because the system does not allow me to have fun on my main warlock without losing ridiculous amounts of hours worth of AP grinding.

    • @Mekose
      @Mekose 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@VinisKitchen22 They should at least lock your highest rank for the rewards, so even if you de-rank that season; you'll still get the rewards for demi-god next season.

    • @VinisKitchen22
      @VinisKitchen22  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Mekose I definitely agree with this, it would also be nice if your peak rank was somehow reflected on the leaderboard so you could then go back to playing your main however you want and not worry about AP after youve done the grind

  • @VinisKitchen22
    @VinisKitchen22  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

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  • @LadyofChaos353
    @LadyofChaos353 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Yeah, I didn’t even want to try and continue past voyager 😂

  • @pillo17
    @pillo17 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I did the same in duos cause all the people use to go to the pile and left me clean everything.
    Tips to improve the run is to grab instruments, blues and purples, on the quick access for extra ap, and have the secondary weapone empty for the same.

    • @VinisKitchen22
      @VinisKitchen22  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Agreed, and good tips! I usually like to pick up blue and purple items early on in the match and then just end up dropping them if I end up getting enough treasure to replace them :)

  • @neoholmes6976
    @neoholmes6976 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Really Good Video thank you. Im still in pathfinder and didn't get demigod Last wipe. i really want those frozen potions.

    • @VinisKitchen22
      @VinisKitchen22  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good luck brother! Yeah I think theyre pretty dope since they are super universal!

  • @dbo23gaming
    @dbo23gaming 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Crazy we were just talking about this the other day

    • @VinisKitchen22
      @VinisKitchen22  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Big facts, shout out DBO for catching the live stream! :) 👍

  • @Knuckles-bb3bx
    @Knuckles-bb3bx 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Congratz on getting demigod! 🎉 Sucks that the system doesn’t seem to incentivize you for some of the most fun and fundamental features of the game such as PVP :/

    • @LionUnchained
      @LionUnchained 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Seems like its a pretty massive problem from a design standpoint. It's really important to look at your feature set and design direction from a high level and make sure you're incentivizing players to exhibit behavior that's inline with the core gameplay design, or you really just work against yourself.

  • @ac-lq1sh
    @ac-lq1sh หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was about to give AP grind a try. Now, thanks to your vid, i know i won't. 😄

  • @KevOfPeen
    @KevOfPeen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    thats pretty good AP ngl, i was hitting pile everygame when i got demigod on Bard during MC and i was getting about 1700-1800 AP per game. i remember hitting demigod with a +760

    • @VinisKitchen22
      @VinisKitchen22  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I was trying this for a bit on my alt warlock when I was just trying to figure out I guess specifically what method I liked the best and wanted to actually use on my main and it definitely felt good when it worked but there were just a number of games where I was getting bothered so much that I ended up not choosing it, but I definitely do think its a good method especially if you get a really good spawn for the middle room as an example! :) Shout out Kev for the bard help BTW!

  • @maestaRz
    @maestaRz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for this useful video, i'll try to replicate this in my own way!
    Is it worth to like bring some cheap green gears with Luck stat and replace em if I loot any blue+ gear ? It should bring more AP at the end of the run because it's still in looted state even equipped, and a purple chest should be like 300 free AP

    • @VinisKitchen22
      @VinisKitchen22  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I definitely dont think this would be a bad idea per se, but you just have to be more careful when it comes to PVP or getting ran down by some other player that has more combat focused stats. I also made a video where I tested out luck by using a 400+ luck kit and I personally didnt see a super noticable difference in the quality of treasure I was getting so Im not sure I would do it personally. Finally, in regards to the item achieve AP points such as equipping a purple chest in raid and extracting with it, it is nice but I think you only get like 60-80 for a purple chest as an example so it can add up but only if youre really replacing a lot of different parts of your kit. Definitely something worth trying though if you arent at a spot where the entrance fee is insanely high. If anything, I think the method you mentioned would probably be a good way to go from Neophyte to Voyager or so at a really accelerated rate by trying to replace as much of your kit as possible during the run, but once you get to voyager and above the entrance fee cost and the amount of setback from dying would definitely lead me to putting on a high quality kit to make sure I can defend myself. 👍 :)

    • @maestaRz
      @maestaRz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@VinisKitchen22 I see, yeah it could be a good idea if entrance fees were not that big of a deal!

  • @KonLud
    @KonLud 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I might have missed the part, but what gear is the best if you are running warlock with this strategy? Like magical healing or magical damage or both?

    • @VinisKitchen22
      @VinisKitchen22  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The stats of the kit I was using are as follows.
      15 Strength
      17 Vigor
      24 Agi
      20 Dex
      30 Will
      33 Knowledge
      20 Resourcefulness
      8 Magical Healing
      6 Add Magic
      4 True Magic
      119 Max Health
      315 MS with Book out
      32% Magic Power Bonus
      and finally 18% PDR and MDR but Im running Antimagic so its really like 43% MDR in game.
      For spells I was using Curse of Pain, Flamewalker, Hellfire, Hyrda and Drain. For perks it was Torture Mastery, Vampirism, Malice and Antimagic. Its essentially a hybrid setup between a full magical healing build and a Hydrain (Life Drain/Hydra) Build.
      That should be pretty much everything of importance I believe! :)

    • @KonLud
      @KonLud 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@VinisKitchen22 that's a pretty good set, mix of healing and damage with very high ms.

    • @VinisKitchen22
      @VinisKitchen22  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KonLud Yessirski, its what Ive been finding the most success with as of recent, I think with the change to the way Magical healing scales that they made a month or so ago you get a lot of bang for your buck out of the first 10ish magical healing and then beyond that it starts to feel less and less valuable.

  • @WolfHreda
    @WolfHreda 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    For your build in this video, what stats did you focus most on?

    • @VinisKitchen22
      @VinisKitchen22  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I will respond to this again tomorrow when I wake up and give you a detailed breakdown of all the stats, but I can say that I was using a hybrid build where I get roughly 8-10 magical healing and run Curse of pain, flamewalker, hellfire, life drain and hydra. So life drain hydra was my main heal but I just like the torture mastery healing for mid fights and while clearing mobs. For stats, like I said I’ll give a detailed breakdown tomorrow morning or if you pop in the discord I’ll post a short video of the exact kit but it was roughly 8-10 magical healing 10-11 add/true magic damage mainly true but add on items it would’ve costed thousands of gold to get true on, roughly 32ish knowledge 30ish will, 120 hp, 315 MS with fists out and uhhh yeah I can’t remember much else at the moment.
      This was from my phone so the formatting/grammar might be ass

    • @VinisKitchen22
      @VinisKitchen22  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The additional/true magic, move speed and enough knowledge to cast all your spells are the most important stats IMO. Extra Health is great, extra casting speed from more knowledge, extra damage from will, and magical healing are all beneficial and improve the quality of the build/make it safer but aren’t as necessary as the ones I mentioned first.

    • @VinisKitchen22
      @VinisKitchen22  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Alrighty so im back on the game and I moved my kit to my alt so Im Pretty sure this was the exact one I was wearing and the stats are as follows.
      15 Strength
      17 Vigor
      24 Agi
      20 Dex
      30 Will
      33 Knowledge
      20 Resourcefulness
      8 Magical Healing
      6 Add Magic
      4 True Magic
      119 Max Health
      315 MS with Book out
      32% Magic Power Bonus
      and finally 18% PDR and MDR but Im running Antimagic so its really like 43% MDR in game.
      That should be pretty much everything of importance I believe! :)

  • @Pengu_VR
    @Pengu_VR 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    as a brand new player this is a god tier guide for high roller 😊

    • @VinisKitchen22
      @VinisKitchen22  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Appreciate that brother! I wish you goodluck on your journey but definitely remember to stop and smell the roses so to speak and dont get too caught up in the grind like I did haha! :)
      Something I did which I would also recommend to others as well is to create two characters of your favorite class, one for grinding the leaderboard and one to warmup on/test builds/just have fun with the game! This is only really applicable if you have a reasonable amount of free time to play the game but either way just thought Id mention it just in case!

    • @Pengu_VR
      @Pengu_VR 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@VinisKitchen22 i play every class atm just trying to get a feel for what i like the most. atm it’s spear ranger but i play barb and cleric too. i have a rogue that i just keep dying with as the class might not be suited for my playstyle and bard, mage and warlock just gets me killed over and over in pvp so i’ll probably get back to them when i develop better skills. i have roughly 35h of playtime since april 27th when i bought it because work don’t give me much time to play sadly. anywho. i subbed so i’ll see more of your informative content to get better at my journey to hopefully become above average ^^

    • @VinisKitchen22
      @VinisKitchen22  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Pengu_VR Hey thats awesome cause I actually just recently leveled up and started improving my ranger skills to start making some ranger content in the near future, I also really love Spear Ranger and think its pretty strong in Solos at the moment with certain builds. Its kind of funny the way you mentioned it because Rogue, Warlock, Bard and a little bit of Wizard are like my main 4 classes and probably the main reason they can be very rough and unforgiving for new players is because they all have pretty weird gear curves, essentially just to say that they get exponentially better as you start to put on gear and feel quite bad when youre in lower gear such as whites or greens or even blues and above for that matter if you dont have the right stats. Rogues, Wizards and Warlocks are probably the worst for this in the game as far as feeling bad without gear and good with gear whereas Barbarian and fighter probably feel the best without gear and start to fall off a little bit in higher gear settings.
      Appreciate the subscribe and Ill make sure to get some ranger content out for you in the near future! Also you sound like youve got the right attitude and mindset so Im sure with a little bit of time youll be well above average! :)

  • @dime628
    @dime628 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Are there still two separate GS lobbies for high roller?

  • @LionUnchained
    @LionUnchained 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is really good feedback and I hope ironmace watches this and takes what's said here into consideration with how they're doing design. There seems to be some fundamental disconnect with the way some of their systems are designed and what they've stated the core content of the gameplay to be. It's almost as if there's someone high up in design or balancing that has no idea what's going on and just makes arbitrary decisions. I always presume incompetence rather than malicious intent, but regardless of what's causing it they need to address it.
    You can see it in so many facets of the design too, it's like the issue with all attributes. I don't know how to say this politely, but its clear to me they aren't learning from it. If you think of early access patches as test cases and then watch their response to subsequent tests it doesn't make any logical sense, I don't know how else to put it. They were trying the same things going in the wrong direction and flip flopping on it sporadically.
    It really comes down to game identity and what the design direction is and at this point I can honestly say I have no idea what they're doing anymore. The original design and direction made sense to me, and its just kind of unraveled at this point into obscurity. I think they need to have an offsite with leadership and get on the same page about what they're doing at this point, but if they can't figure out that something as fundamental as the "ladder" system needs to be inclusive of PvP, there is clearly a major problem.

    • @pbomb79
      @pbomb79 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I keep telling people this game has a huge identity crisis like you said. The passion for devs seems to be hardcore dungeon delving, while the gameplay that is keeping people around is fantasy BR. The unfortunate fact is that the games leaders are weak. The leaders are pretty easily swayed (internally and by players) and thus we've gotten this watered down mesh of both.
      The new game mode they're touting is another step towards the Fantasy BR partition and seems to be them again caving to what players want instead of making the game they envision. What part of 5v5 deathmatch w/o gear loss is relevant to the original idea of hardcore dungeon delving with multiple layers while fighting others who would steal your treasure?

    • @VinisKitchen22
      @VinisKitchen22  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Very well put, I couldnt agree more with everything you mentioned here. The all attributes is a good example that invokes literal utter confusion, at least in the current state of +1 all max on 3 different pieces of gear I can believe they’ve learned something but the fact that they had to start the season with a total of +8 all attributes being possible across 5 pieces of gear and leave it that way for quite some time whenever they’ve already tested +all atts multiple times before hand is perplexing to say the least.

    • @LionUnchained
      @LionUnchained 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@pbomb79 I have been playing since the first playtest and watching development pretty closely. I don't play anymore because it actually inspired me to just start developing games myself. I study game development and studios to try to learn how to avoid pitfalls in the future and the #1 thing I identified with this entire situation is you have to start out with 1 of 2 directions in development:
      1. You have a strong vision for the game and you do not compromise on that vision.
      2. You have a great idea for a framework or premise to expand on an existing genre, but you want the players to define the details, and you facilitate that process.
      This one foot in, one foot out approach really isn't it though. Ironmace will forever be one of my favorite developers, they're right up there with OG Condor Studios for me. I just wish that they had the same unwavering conviction they started with then they stood up to Nexon. I'm not sure what happened between then and now, but it's unfortunate.

  • @griffon310
    @griffon310 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    playing as barb I cant even get over 900 ap

  • @blank4142
    @blank4142 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    how much gold does your build cost in this video on warlock?

    • @VinisKitchen22
      @VinisKitchen22  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hey blank! Umm currently prices are probably going to be really skewed since its end of wipe but I think around the time I bought most of the items it probably wouldve been anywhere from 5-8k I think with most of that coming from the jewelry and chestpiece. (chestpiece was +1 all +3 magi healing)
      The stats of the kit I was using are as follows.
      15 Strength
      17 Vigor
      24 Agi
      20 Dex
      30 Will
      33 Knowledge
      20 Resourcefulness
      8 Magical Healing
      6 Add Magic
      4 True Magic
      119 Max Health
      somewhere around 310 - 315 MS with Book out
      32% Magic Power Bonus
      and finally 18% PDR and MDR but Im running Antimagic so its really like 43% MDR in game.

    • @blank4142
      @blank4142 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@VinisKitchen22 Thank you, I appreciate the response. I did really want these ap rewards but this video does kind of knock me into reality a bit. The grind does not sound that enjoyable as a solo. I dunno if I can pull it off in a week with only 100 hours of gametime, but I'll give it a good shot. Again, thanks.

    • @blank4142
      @blank4142 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@VinisKitchen22 Yo, I wanted to ask a follow up question and ask how much a budget version of this build would cost if there is one? For a kit that expensive that you just mentioned, I imagine it's above 299? If that is the case, what would the budget 299- build look like and is it a reasonable one for pvp?

    • @VinisKitchen22
      @VinisKitchen22  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@blank4142 That build was actually in the 299 lobby, and I do believe a budget build would be possible but youd definitely have to give up some stats mainly health I think and maybe some move speed. You can either go for the style I went for which is a mixture between torture mastery and Life drain or go purely life drain for lower budget.
      I definitely think it would be reasonable for pvp and this is kind of just off the top of my head since server is down but for a really budget version of the TM life drain mix youd probably want something as follows and youre going to need at least 27 knowledge roughly just to be able to cast the spells so keep that in mind as you build the kit.
      Shadow Mask - 2 true/add magic (+knowledge or vig is great but expensive)
      Oracle Robe with Lightfoots - +1 all on the robe +5 add movespeed on the boots
      Or Adventurer tunic with occultist boots -
      same random modifiers
      Phoenix Choker - +1 all +3 magi healing (kinda needed for this type of build)
      Green Rings - +2 add or true magic
      Radiant cloak - 2 add magic or 2 true or just a rare radiant cloak with random stats for more budget but you will probably need the knowledge
      Loose Trousers or maybe leather chausses - +1 all
      Rare spellbook - +3 magi heal
      Rawhide or Mystic gloves depending on if you need more knowledge or not - Ideal stats for mystic are knowledge agi and vig, whichever ones are within the budget you should go for (Knowledge will be expensive)
      Falchion or kris dagger - add weapon damage if possible
      If possible look to squeeze in two more magical healing either via a rare ring (although itll be expensive for add magic + magical healing) or on the chest piece or if you have enough knowledge to go mystic gloves then youll be good (Ideally you want at least 8 magical healing with this type of build and probably no more than 12 magical healing at the top end, anything more and its probably overkill and youd be better off just focusing other stats)
      If you go too much lower budget than the stuff I mentioned here then the pvp effectiveness falls off a lot, Caster warlock similar to wizard and ranger pretty desperately needs gear to be powerful. If you do want to go lower budget Id recommned just dropping the magical healing all together and going purely life drain but the pvp capabilities will suffer somewhat for sure.

  • @vowish5319
    @vowish5319 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Uhhh pvp definitely gets you ap now as their gear counts as looted when u pick it up now and u cann loot their treasure. Player kills being upwards of 100 ap also makes it worth it too

    • @VinisKitchen22
      @VinisKitchen22  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I appreciate your input but, you’re not getting anywhere near 100 for a player kill if you are at a high rank. You’ll be absolutely lucky if you even get 50. I’ve had 4 kill games where I got less than 120 AP from the kills in totality. Also the new system did not fix the problem, this one is simple though, nobody that was farming AP was picking up blue and purple gear from chests on purpose, they would only do it if they couldn’t fill that space with treasure, this has not changed, so it’s only worth it to pick up legendary items which is the same as it was beforehand and rarely are people wearing legendary items on average. You can pick up people’s treasure but why would you risk losing 1100 AP to pvp with someone if all you’re getting out of it is their treasure which you could get on your own without the risk of pvp. Also, most people aren’t farming AP so typically players don’t have a good amount of treasure when you kill them, if you kill them late into the game they are more likely to but not guaranteed at all.

    • @vowish5319
      @vowish5319 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@VinisKitchen22 i made this comment before U mentioned your input on this lol I should have deleted this comment but forgot I even commented it sorry :o

    • @VinisKitchen22
      @VinisKitchen22  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@vowish5319 No problem whatsoever brother! :) 👍

  • @OsaV127
    @OsaV127 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Caster lock complaing about invis rouge camping (you have hydra?)

    • @VinisKitchen22
      @VinisKitchen22  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Unless youre talking about them camping the boss loot room why would I place a hydra if I have no reason to believe there is a rogue nearby? Im not running around placing a hydra in every single room I walk into, especially not when Im on a race against the clock to farm AP. If you are talking about them camping the boss loot room then this literally does nothing because the second you open the door and start casting a spell they can just run at you with the extra 10% movespeed and punish you. Finally, Ill just say that I dont really have a huge issue with rogues outside of when Im farming AP other than the fact that if you do ever just walk into a rogue in hide then youre pretty much just dead with no counterplay but even that doesnt bother me a TON because its not that common and if they are able to manage to pull off being in the right spot at the right time then cudos to the rogue I guess.

  • @bolenarrow9286
    @bolenarrow9286 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I feel like this game was so much more fun before they started doing these rankings and AP grind bs

    • @VinisKitchen22
      @VinisKitchen22  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah I definitely think certain systems can have a negative impact and we’ve seen some of that with the AP system for sure even with people being able to avoid it I still think just having to avoid a system because it’s bad probably creates a negative impact but I personally hope they can figure out the AP system cause I’ve always been a ranked grinder haha! 😂

  • @cloudedfire7932
    @cloudedfire7932 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    at high purple up to exemp even a single death is 2 or 3 games to fix assuming they go absolutely perfect, especially with the now higher entry cost. pvp just aint worth it if all u want to rank rewards which while i get not basing it off just pvp it leans too much into lemme avoid all pvp no matter what because it could easily get u into an unfixable multi hour hole to repair. the ap system needs a revamp or to be just removed cause right now all it is is a sign of how long u spent ratting

    • @VinisKitchen22
      @VinisKitchen22  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Couldnt agree more, I think there should be more risk-reward factors such as missions within each game that provide extra ap (Kill a player gain a 1.2x multiplier to all AP gained, Kill 30 kobolds get 150 extra AP, loot a legendary piece of treasure get 100 extra AP, kill 3 players get 500 extra AP) so that when you do inevitably die it wont feel so monotonous to try and regain what you lost. This is obviously just one idea though and I agree the system desperately needs an entire revamp to be more fun and true to the core aspects of the game.

  • @Skorm.
    @Skorm. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Are you the dude that has been being told in streams that you sound like a Walmart repoze?

    • @VinisKitchen22
      @VinisKitchen22  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If youre talking about in my stream then Ive never been told that once lmao 😂 If youre saying people are mentioning that in others peoples streams then I have no idea ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Some people have pointed out the similarity between my intro and Foxman slays though!

    • @VinisKitchen22
      @VinisKitchen22  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If anything I just get a lot of people shitting on me for my voice so I hope for Repoze's sake people arent saying that haha! 😂

    • @Skorm.
      @Skorm. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@VinisKitchen22 lmfao. There was this dude playing with apollo and toddfather that sounded like repoze and you sounded like him.

    • @VinisKitchen22
      @VinisKitchen22  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Skorm. Gotcha gotcha! That makes sense, I would lowkey love to play with any of those guys and start getting to be involved in some more high quality trios and duos gameplay!

  • @josephmyles3450
    @josephmyles3450 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Gear Score worn should = AP for PvP .

    • @VinisKitchen22
      @VinisKitchen22  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I definitely think that system would be better than the current one, as I mentioned in the video the devs would have to play around with the numbers to find something that works but I definitely think if I kill a player with a reasonable gear score then that should be something that gives me good AP regardless of picking up their items. A good example that showcases a downside of the current system is lets say the match is almost over and Ive got a full inventory of treasure then I kill some dude that is in all bis blues and purples then Im probably getting 30-40 AP for that kill assuming they are a middle of the road rank such as most players AND I also cant pick up any of their gear without it turning into a net negative on AP gains. If I for example got idk just a random number 250 AP for killing that guy, then that would not only feel good/reasonable but I would then have the option to drop some of my treasure for some of his gear without it turning into a negative experience.

  • @Scquer
    @Scquer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Congrats on demi - also you weren’t yapping you actually know what you are talking about

    • @VinisKitchen22
      @VinisKitchen22  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I really appreciate that brother! 👍 :)

  • @juancok-lc1ht
    @juancok-lc1ht 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    you get 250 per run if die you get fuk for 1k

  • @vowish5319
    @vowish5319 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thats why i slowly loot my way to the bosses so i either arrive to counter or I get there and nobodys there meaning I should be good to do it

    • @VinisKitchen22
      @VinisKitchen22  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is the ideal scenario but often doesn’t work out for me because someone will still be waiting there even later into the game, or the boss will already be dead and the pile looted. Additionally, as a warlock you hit the pile rather slow so you can’t wait too long. But this is the ideal scenario I agree :)

    • @vowish5319
      @vowish5319 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@VinisKitchen22 i like to stack agility on warlock just to be untouchable and to loot pile quickly. 50% interaction speed is fairly easy to get , especually if u implement some luck into your gear and agility its goated loot

    • @Zak-jt6nk
      @Zak-jt6nk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I kill boss asap usually but usually I leave 1 door open in the room sometimes both that way when I kill the boss i can loot and play the doors if there's a counter if ur fast there's nothing they can do without a teammate

    • @VinisKitchen22
      @VinisKitchen22  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Zak-jt6nk Yeah, I preach in my videos that as a warlock you should be leaving the doors open while you do the boss so if someone starts to grief you during the boss you always have the option to reset the boss and take the fight in a clean/fair way. This is also some secret tech but ive been trying out ModXE's strat where even when you go down to the pile you just leave every single door open so when people walk in they might think the person already looted the pile and left but even more importantly and this is just a psychology thing I think but if all the doors are open if someone does come down to check the pile the chances that they will have closed the door behind them trapping you in the tiny room is much less likely I feel. Where as, on the flipside if youve got the door to the gold pile room closed its more likely for a player to walk in, see youre a caster and then close the door behind them resulting in a really disadvantaged fight for the caster :)

    • @Zak-jt6nk
      @Zak-jt6nk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@VinisKitchen22 I close loot room cuz of creep without it I wouldn't them opening the door gives me time to drink a prot pot and prepare a little

  • @JWL123
    @JWL123 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    “All games played on US west”… yeah mmmmhm

    • @pbomb79
      @pbomb79 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I've been doing this same method and am currently in exemplar. High tier ice caves is dead on US WEST at all times, peak weekend/ you name it. I ran into 1 player every 15 games MAX doing this route.

    • @VinisKitchen22
      @VinisKitchen22  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That is correct, all games played on the US west server. For exemplar 1 to demigod specifically, it was primarily between 8pm and 2 am. You can hop in the stream anytime and ask me to show server and I’ll gladly repeat the strategy as many times as you like without dying and likely seeing on average 1 person every 3-4 games. :)

    • @VinisKitchen22
      @VinisKitchen22  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@pbomb79 someone did the strategy before discrediting it I see 😉👌

  • @jaydevile8795
    @jaydevile8795 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I mean first of all, the boss should not protect you, it should always be contested.
    You play warlock, think of it like this. How possible is it to defeat the troll as say a barbarian? A cleric? A fighter? The game is already unbalanced in your favor as the supreme boss solo killer, plus the fact that a good warlock can make themselves neigh impossible to kill. Why would you take away the chance from other classes to snipe?
    Grats on getting demigod. You sound really burned out, and im happy I choose fun in the game, just staying out of the HR grind and enjoying time with randoms and having good laughs. Sure I miss out on some cool rewards, but it wouldnt be worth my time invested tbh.
    I think games where cosmetics are seperated by ranked prestige suck (the life out of you) anyways, but to each his own.
    Thanks for the good yappening, it was good hearing your thoughts. Hope the grind gets easier!

    • @1nicesteak109
      @1nicesteak109 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      "How possible is it to defeat the troll as say a barbarian? A cleric? A fighter?" You can kill cyclops/troll with every class easily - what are you talking about. Keep playing normals buddy XD

    • @VinisKitchen22
      @VinisKitchen22  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Appreciate the congratulations on demigod and I appreciate the well thought out comment! :) I also agree that with the current system it’s probably a better choice for one’s sanity to choose to play the game strictly for fun. However, I’d like to imagine a system where you could progress the leaderboard and have fun at the same time. Most other games have figured this out in one way or another, even battle Royale’s, potentially harder in this case since this is also a loot extraction I know but I’d still like to imagine.
      In regards to the boss stuff, currently fighter, rogue, and bard all kill the troll significantly faster than warlock (fighter has to use the long sword method to be the quickest but is still fast without it). Barbarian isn’t much slower if they are running a good kit, cleric I’ll give you for sure but that seems like a given in my head. I also don’t believe the boss should protect you necessarily but it seems like they are implementing a system similar to what I proposed for the ice caves boss coming out, the wyvern that has the bridges that seem like they are going to disappear once the fight has started which won’t allow people to enter the arena until the boss has been finished presumably. I personally think in this type of game that makes sense and believe more and more people are just falling into the counter boss or be counterbossed stuff which doesn’t feel great.
      I agree that cosmetics being locked out by rank sucks but mainly just when the ranked system sucks, if it was better then I think having rewards tailored to rank can be a good way to incentivize players to engage with the system.
      Finally, in regards to good warlocks being nearly unkillable, I’d say the same about good barbarians and good rangers since this game is a bit of a rock paper scissors. Depending on what class you play, certain other classes are going to be a really bad matchup and as such they’ll feel unkillable but I don’t think it’s typically the case. Put a good ranger up against a good warlock and it will not be close, the ranger will destroy the warlock without getting touched unfortunately.
      This response is coming from my phone and late at night so I apologize if it the grammar or format is bad or if it comes off as hasty or brash in any way, not the intention. I really do appreciate the well thought out comment and discussion, thanks again! :)

    • @VinisKitchen22
      @VinisKitchen22  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@1nicesteak109 while I do agree with your take on the bosses, I do intend to make sure everyone feels welcome to give their opinions or thoughts within my community so make sure to try and keep it respectful please, no one should be shamed for playing normals if that’s the way they enjoy the game :)

    • @jaydevile8795
      @jaydevile8795 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@1nicesteak109 yeah, okay I see a difference inbetween classes that can defeat the troll on base gear like rogue, warlock and perhaps fighter if longsword is your thing and geared characters, but peoples view may differ I respect that.
      I dont care to be shamed for playing normals though, I do play HR but I dont see anything in a rift between the true playerbase or a false playerbase depending if I play normals or HR and dont wish to be treated like this.
      My comment was meant to show perspective, as I am immensely proud of the creator for reaching demigod, but doubtful id ever care to make the game chore enough to reach their level of dedication.
      Between turning torches on and off to farm ap, to only going pve, it hurts the experience, and I hope the creator gets a more balanced experience in the future.
      To the creator, thank you for your kind words, advice and perspective! See you in the dungeon (or hopefully not since you would probably wipe me.)
      Oh yeah, p.s Id recommend cosmetics being rewarded for doing quests, else I really just dont see much point in doing them, especially the "open the skull key 5 times" quest ^^; I think this would be a better way, and to reward demigod players maybe woth red shards, gold chests at start of season / skull keys or something like that to maintain the balance. But idrc enough to flesh it out to much :p

    • @1nicesteak109
      @1nicesteak109 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@jaydevile8795 you can kill troll with every class and without gear bud, are some classes faster? Yeah but yes every class can defeat the troll easily. Yes without longsword.
      I recommend watching MojitoBeans Video on troll, you will realize how ridiculous your view about the troll is. Good Luck. 👍🏻

  • @BARBERGOBRR
    @BARBERGOBRR 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    welcome to br games lol.

    • @VinisKitchen22
      @VinisKitchen22  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’ve played and excelled at a lot of BR games and they usually involve PVP being a core aspect of increasing your rank which is not the case in this current system, so I don’t really agree with the “welcome to BR games” defense or excuse for the system being the way it is.

  • @exioz99
    @exioz99 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dude sound constipated

  • @tjhookertj6923
    @tjhookertj6923 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    you cant be serious.. nobody cares, game needs a serious content update, nobody is even play right now, and demigod is not hard G, lol. wow.. welcome to DaD bro.

    • @VinisKitchen22
      @VinisKitchen22  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Ill go one by one since you had a few interesting points, if you can call them that.
      1.) I was/am serious and it seems like 60+ people including yourself cared enough to comment and even the top streamers/content creators of the game care quite a bit which Im not sayng they are the backbone of the game by any stretch of the imagination but if Repoze were to quit as an example I do believe it would be a huge blow to the community.
      2.) I agree that the game needs a content update and I never said anything in this video that should lead you to believe otherwise but per the title which I assume you read, this video was about the AP system not the lack of content that the game is experiencing. Those two things are almost entirely separate issues.
      3.) The playerbase is much smaller than what it was at its peak but to say nobody is playing right now is an oversight.
      4.) I never really said that getting Demigod is "Hard", I think I stressed and made it clear enough that my position was more tailored to it being a very tedious and unrewarding grind. If anything, I made it a point to showcase that this is an "easy/repeatable" strategy to achieve demigod with but that it is NOT fun and for that reason and many others the system likely needs to be revamped.
      5.) Thanks for the unwelcoming welcome, but ive been playing DaD for over a year with some breaks here and there so Im not particularly new to the game, this is just my first time playing since the leaderboard was introduced and making the demigod grind.

    • @lukevaillancourt4071
      @lukevaillancourt4071 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@VinisKitchen22I enjoyed the video, I was filling up my inventory with full lootables from pile and making 1300 ap per game so 200 in exemplar 1, sucks cause as a cleric I have a quarter of your clear speed on warlock, back to pile I go

    • @VinisKitchen22
      @VinisKitchen22  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@lukevaillancourt4071 true, cleric has to be one of the hardest classes to rank up with so I commend you for taking that challenge, with the current low player count though it should actually be more viable to hit the pile especially if youre playing on US West. :)