Manuel Blanco Thanks Cris!! Congratulations on the “topic” a very special one but needed!now please time to talk about DOUBLE ROLLERS!!! Don’t you think so? Is that coming soon? Thanks again!
Awesome work Chris! Some neat tricks, appreciate your wisdom mate. The small bore rubbers can be a pain but I think this technique will work well for them compared to entwining the bridle and load assist like the other way
What a great tutorial Chris ! I am in the process of setting up a double roller speargun and this is one of the things that I needed to know. This roller series of your is dope ! Can't wait for the double roller setups video to come. Safe dives amigo 👍
Awesome vid Chris, can’t wait to give this a try! Also, will you be making a video on double rollers at some point? I’m super curious to see what setups work best.
great video. gonna try this. been having trouble with my knots popping out. hopefully its cause im using lube to put the knot it. been using 1.8mm dyneema for both load assist and bridle
@@codyzeek7529lol 😆 I use to have trouble with the same thing but I've started getting the knot into the bands partially with a plier then cover it with My thumb for it not to slip bsck.out. then switch to a small screwdriver and push it all the was in. Works great.
Hello chris, i have a timber dual. Center wheels are 4cm apart center to center. Side wheels are 7cm center to center. Using this method im thinking to tightening the center at 3cm to end up with 4cm width. And 6cm for side wheels for 7cm width. Is this reasonable thinking? Thanjs for the lesson.
Thank you for an amazing presentation! Is that 6cm of dyneema wishbone universal? How can you tell the appropriate length of wishbone? I have an MVD roller head and it would be very helpful if I knew the right length....
No the length is not universal. You want it short enough that the bands are not low on the rollers. But not so short that the bands are level with the rails. measure from the top of the roller over the rails to the top of the opposite roller. This should be around 4.5-5.5cm Then add 1cm So if the measurement is 5cm then +1cm = 6cm between knots.
You can, I run my 1m and 1.2m rollers with double unevens with a 3-4mm braided dyneema handle. I just tie the handle In the same overhand knot as the two bridles at either end and tighten properly (that’s important) and melt the ends together really well before inserting. I haven’t had one fail yet.
Big topic. Most guys just prefer std notches. Shark fins & tabs are stronger than where the cut in the shaft is for the notch, but some muzzles dont work so well with sharkfins and pinned shafts.
Another Great Video Chris. I am always thinking of the 1%ers (as you do) which add up pretty quickly and then efficiency or accuracy either decreases or increases. Whats your thoughts on the smoothness or hydrodynamics of the thicker dyneema cord (as you have just described) against using the plastic tube covering the smaller diametre dyneema cord method on the bridle.I like your method but thinking the larger diameter dyneema would have more drag thru the water when the gun is fired.
David, The softer dyneema folds flat easier than the plastic so my thought were that it would have less drag. This would be something to do a proper test on.
WARNING! Make sure the materials you are using result in decent sized knots THAT ARE THE SAME SIZE as a regular bridle bead. The materials i used resulted in slightly smaller knots, which pulled through & exploded out of both sides of my rubbers on first load resulting in a nasty finger injury. It was my mistake, so i'm not having a go at Chris, its a great tutorial. It just should be mentioned to NOT use slightly thinner dyneema, & make sure your knots are bead-sized, so that they don't pull through. I hope no one else injures themselves like i did, right before a dive trip lol :)
Hey Tay, Sorry about the issues you are having. I have tested various thickness dyneema cord for making these knots and even thin line works. But 2mm dyneema cord, as you have pointed out is best. In my experience the two most common causes of failure are constrictor knots on the rubber not tight enough. (more common on thicker 16mm bands) And using silicon or lubricant to insert the wishbone. Plain water or saliva is best. Please let me know if you still have any issues.
@@CoatesmansSpearfishing Thanks for your reply man, good to hear your feedback! I had always used silicon lubricant to insert wishbones into my rubbers until this incident haha, I have never had rubbers fail before, but after this happened I figured that was part of the problem along with the small size of my knot. I've stopped using it now :) I ended up using a combination of your method above & incorporated some bridle beads, my rig has been working a treat! :) Thanks for all your knowledge you put out here for us mate. its much appreciated. keep it coming.
Crabby go check out the vids on the specific gun size. th-cam.com/play/PLuhswj4358_xDYS4_re-iAoo3Wxx23R0M.html But when in doubt go with the half barrel + 5cm rule
@@CoatesmansSpearfishing yeah I guess you will pull on it only until you can grab the rubbers so there would be not that much force. Nice. I will give it a try.
Manuel Blanco
Thanks Cris!! Congratulations on the “topic” a very special one but needed!now please time to talk about DOUBLE ROLLERS!!! Don’t you think so? Is that coming soon? Thanks again!
Definitely time 😁
Very well explained, thank you.
Awesome work Chris! Some neat tricks, appreciate your wisdom mate. The small bore rubbers can be a pain but I think this technique will work well for them compared to entwining the bridle and load assist like the other way
What a great tutorial Chris !
I am in the process of setting up a double roller speargun and this is one of the things that I needed to know.
This roller series of your is dope ! Can't wait for the double roller setups video to come. Safe dives amigo 👍
Nice! small things make a big diff. Thanx from Costa Rica
Thank you ...learning alot!!!
Awesome vid Chris, can’t wait to give this a try! Also, will you be making a video on double rollers at some point? I’m super curious to see what setups work best.
Thank you for sharing all the info and tips. Works great!
Another superb vid Chris! Game changing tips. Ive been re-rigging all my guns with fantastic results.
Nice vid, waiting for your review of double roller speargun for 90cm and 110cm🤩
Nice, very helpful again…
awesome vid, thanks for posting , very helpful
Hell yea bro perfect tutorial!
Wow, best video ever, I learned a lot with this, thank you so much.
Nice vid as always mate, going to give this a try for sure!
Thanks 😁
This was a really nice video* 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Glad you liked it!
great video. gonna try this. been having trouble with my knots popping out. hopefully its cause im using lube to put the knot it. been using 1.8mm dyneema for both load assist and bridle
Yea dont use lube or any oils. Just wet the knot with spit or water.
@@CoatesmansSpearfishing legend thanks mate! would you recommend figure 8 knots inlieu of the one used for bigger knots?
thanks for making this. Still having some trouble getting the knot into the bands 😂
Try some dish liquid makes it easy
thank you!
I’ve been able to manage that with standard wishbones, but the wishbone/bridle knots for rollers has been tough.
@@codyzeek7529lol 😆 I use to have trouble with the same thing but I've started getting the knot into the bands partially with a plier then cover it with My thumb for it not to slip bsck.out. then switch to a small screwdriver and push it all the was in. Works great.
thank you!!
Another awesome video! I gotta give this a try
another great video Chris!
Hi. You don’t put plastic tube around handles ?
I wish i have one🥺 i love spearfishing
Thanks
Hello chris, i have a timber dual. Center wheels are 4cm apart center to center. Side wheels are 7cm center to center. Using this method im thinking to tightening the center at 3cm to end up with 4cm width. And 6cm for side wheels for 7cm width. Is this reasonable thinking?
Thanjs for the lesson.
Thank you for an amazing presentation! Is that 6cm of dyneema wishbone universal? How can you tell the appropriate length of wishbone? I have an MVD roller head and it would be very helpful if I knew the right length....
No the length is not universal. You want it short enough that the bands are not low on the rollers. But not so short that the bands are level with the rails. measure from the top of the roller over the rails to the top of the opposite roller. This should be around 4.5-5.5cm
Then add 1cm
So if the measurement is 5cm then +1cm = 6cm between knots.
@@CoatesmansSpearfishing Thank you so much for your answer
Possible to do a double uneven wishbone with a loop handle??
You can, I run my 1m and 1.2m rollers with double unevens with a 3-4mm braided dyneema handle. I just tie the handle In the same overhand knot as the two bridles at either end and tighten properly (that’s important) and melt the ends together really well before inserting. I haven’t had one fail yet.
Mantap bos
Thanks Chris! What’s your thoughts on any differences between using shafts with fins, mini tabs or notches?
Big topic. Most guys just prefer std notches. Shark fins & tabs are stronger than where the cut in the shaft is for the notch, but some muzzles dont work so well with sharkfins and pinned shafts.
Another Great Video Chris. I am always thinking of the 1%ers (as you do) which add up pretty quickly and then efficiency or accuracy either decreases or increases. Whats your thoughts on the smoothness or hydrodynamics of the thicker dyneema cord (as you have just described) against using the plastic tube covering the smaller diametre dyneema cord method on the bridle.I like your method but thinking the larger diameter dyneema would have more drag thru the water when the gun is fired.
David,
The softer dyneema folds flat easier than the plastic so my thought were that it would have less drag. This would be something to do a proper test on.
That’s freakin awesome. So good to learn new techniques. Thankyou
How much for the cdr?
What lenght of the wishbone for a rob allen roller head should be? The same 6cm?
Hey Kevin, Yes I use the same wishbone length for RA rollers. 6cm 👍👍👍
WARNING! Make sure the materials you are using result in decent sized knots THAT ARE THE SAME SIZE as a regular bridle bead. The materials i used resulted in slightly smaller knots, which pulled through & exploded out of both sides of my rubbers on first load resulting in a nasty finger injury. It was my mistake, so i'm not having a go at Chris, its a great tutorial. It just should be mentioned to NOT use slightly thinner dyneema, & make sure your knots are bead-sized, so that they don't pull through. I hope no one else injures themselves like i did, right before a dive trip lol :)
Hey Tay,
Sorry about the issues you are having. I have tested various thickness dyneema cord for making these knots and even thin line works. But 2mm dyneema cord, as you have pointed out is best.
In my experience the two most common causes of failure are constrictor knots on the rubber not tight enough. (more common on thicker 16mm bands)
And using silicon or lubricant to insert the wishbone. Plain water or saliva is best.
Please let me know if you still have any issues.
@@CoatesmansSpearfishing Thanks for your reply man, good to hear your feedback! I had always used silicon lubricant to insert wishbones into my rubbers until this incident haha, I have never had rubbers fail before, but after this happened I figured that was part of the problem along with the small size of my knot. I've stopped using it now :) I ended up using a combination of your method above & incorporated some bridle beads, my rig has been working a treat! :) Thanks for all your knowledge you put out here for us mate. its much appreciated. keep it coming.
Legend!
How long should the roller bands be?
Crabby go check out the vids on the specific gun size.
th-cam.com/play/PLuhswj4358_xDYS4_re-iAoo3Wxx23R0M.html
But when in doubt go with the half barrel + 5cm rule
How come the handle doesn't slide out? I thought you would have some knot to bind the 2 lines together.
Hey Tomas, when you burn the lines its forms a ball which does not pull through.
@@CoatesmansSpearfishing yeah I guess you will pull on it only until you can grab the rubbers so there would be not that much force. Nice. I will give it a try.
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