9:44 Just to jog your memory, Renslayer was pruned by Brad/Sylvie in ep4. Everything that we saw from episode 1 to 4 in Season 2 happened exactly the same as what we saw on screen with evidently no butterfly effect changes from Loki's actions during his time-slipping. If the question is, "In that case, why is there a young Victor who was shown to have never received a copy of the TVA manual?", that's because that is how branching timelines work. Every action results in a branched timeline, so when a copy of the TVA manual was dropped through young Victor's window, we were already watching the POV of a branched timeline. It's far more logical to assume that the young Victor we saw in ep6 is the one from the sacred timeline/616 where the TVA manual wasn't dropped into his window, instead of assuming that Renslayer was pruned right before she dropped it in, and thus erasing an entire branched timeline where Victor grew up and went on an adventure in the TVA. I mean, that's the new motto of the TVA, isn't it? Not to sacrifice lives for the greater good. I can't imagine B-15 would ever go along with that kind of decision ever again. Also, if Renslayer never made it back to the TVA to try and recruit Brad and the general, the general would still be alive and well, and we would have seen her in the meeting room at the end of the episode.
So here's what I found interesting about Loki - I didn't care about special effects or a big fight scene or anything like that. The best scenes in this series were just characters talking - for me, it's when Kang meets Sylvie & Loki the first time and then this season when Loki revisits that event and also most conversations between Mobius and Loki
Agreed, that's what happens when you've got a great writer who can pen some remarquable characters, plots, and dialogues, and with formidable actors able to deliver them, captured by fantastic cinematographers who know how to lit and frame shots, accompanied by a fantastic composer who knows how to enhance the mood and emotion with her music. And with great directors to be able to maestro the shit out of all of this cacophony to make it a symphony. This show is the full package ! People say it's the best MCU thing since Endgame, I say scratch Endgame, Loki is the best story ever made in the MCU's history.
What I found crazy abt the first avengers movie is that ppl in mcu thought n believed that Loki n tony would be essentially the last ppl to sacrifice anything but tony gave his everything n sacrificed his life to save everyone from thanks n Loki took the burden of multiverse n chose to be alone for eternal for his dear ones to have a chance to live their lives... I feel like coming a long way from avengers both tony n Loki have made the ultimate sacrifices... which is others happiness n future above their own. It’s a great way to end their journey.
The MCU needs Tom to stick around. If they want to flip this narrative of bad projects, they MUST keep Loki involved in some manner. Star power like his, is exactly why fans loved Phases 1-3, bc of great actors and characters!!! Tom Hiddleston, RDJ, Chris Evan’s, Scar-Jo, Chris Hemsworth, and Mark Ruffalo are all great actors who make their characters even better
Of course we’ll see loki again! Even the showrunner said all of lokis movements are leading up to him reuniting with thor! As he said in Infinity War “ the sun will shine upon us again”!
We saw a pyramid shortly after Renslayer woke up in the void. The purple light that appears afterwards may not be Alioth but a variant of Kang (Rama-Tut).
Renslayer can control Alioth. It has been alluded to when they tell us that she was the one that defeated the variants and won the war. She probably used Alioth and she will again, based on her face at the end.
I agree that Loki’s specific story may be done, but Loki will still be apart of what’s to come. Currently he is the only one who knows of the coming threat. The TVA is monitoring, and they will discover Deadpool and Wolverine, who in turn will be recruited to TVA. When we get to Kang Dynasty I am 100% sure Loki will be required, all Avengers will be required for Kang, my 2 cents
Personally, I think Renslayer is dead. That look on her face when in the void seemed like the look of someone accepting their fate on said timeline. She doesnt have any weapons or time stopping/travelling items to quell Alioth. But, Man... What an ending for Loki. I had chills through those last 2 soundtracks.
I wonder what happened to all the Loki variants. Renslayer was alone, so does that mean the TVA sent them to some timeline? I'd hope they are all alive and well, they area ll still Loki after all.
The Void was really large. Planet-size large. Just because we saw Renslayer sitting in a certain place all by herself doesn't mean that there weren't a lot of Lokis roaming around the Void.
With the time slipping ability Loki taking decades to learn something....kind of backs up what "He Who Remains" said when he says "I've lived a million lifetimes"
Season 1 was average because it felt like they we trying to replace Loki with a female Loki. This season was about Loki and he came out as the ultimate hero. I little surprised that the MCU allowed a male hero and look what we got, the best MCU series to date.
If Victor Timely never receives the book, it's also quite likely that as a result Loki will never destroy the loom and will never create the multiverse tree... I doubt anyone would have wanted to jeopardize that. The timeline where young Victor never received the book has always existed - it was the natural flow of time on the sacred timeline. Timely getting the book created a branch. It can't be that this branch has never existed because otherwise most of Loki season 2 would have never happened. It did happen, so the branch must exist. Both timelines exist next to each other inside Loki's multiverse tree.
Ok but I still don't understand how he was able to withstand those massive amounts of temporal radiation, or how he knew how to do what he did following his destroying the loom. Kind of a random massive power buff if you ask me
Him, withstanding the temporaral radiation can easily be explained by his physiology as a Frost Giant (even after getting pruned to restore himself, his body is unaffected by the radiation when he's exposed to temporal radiation and thrown back to TVA). Him, figuring out how to restore the dying branches could include him, time slipping endlessly, without us realizing it. After all, that's what happened when he's talking with HWR about the Time-stopping ability. We were led to believe that's the first time they're having that talk but then we realized Loki already time-slipped unspecified amount of times and learnt time-stopping as well.
Yeah, my take on it is that he's doing a similar thing than Wolverine in X-Men 3 the last Stand (terrible movie, I know, but the end was quite memorable), when he had to face Jean in full Phoenix force mode, and his healing factor kept him together while he was getting torn apart by Jean. Here, Loki could very well timeslip himself back up to counteract the Time Radiation's aging.
He's a Frost Giant. They have the same life expectancy as Asgardians - several thousand years. So they age much, much slower than humans. If the time radiation ages him by 500 years for example, that isn't so much for him, and he will still look the same.
@@proximashining776 It might, but we've seen Sylvie getting Spaghettified before, so I don't think that being a Frost giant makes you immune to it, you just stay intact a few seconds more, that's it. What makes Loki special is his new time slipping ability.
If Valhalla exists, and Heimdall and Jane Foster are both there, there's no reason why Loki can't be there too. I mean the Loki who was killed by Thanos in Infinity War. If it's an afterlife for Asgardians, there's no reason for him not to be there, especially as he died a hero's death, protecting his brother. Sure, he's not biologically an Asgardian, he was born a Frost Giant, but Jane Foster isn't an Asgardian either.
He’s just letting his excitement just control him without the reality that the MCU as a whole is a huge mess right now. He’s going off about Loki coming back and Kang Dynasty when all of that is in a huge state of flux.
God, the tear forming in Loki's eye in that final close-up of his face after he heard Mobius.. THE PAIN
9:44 Just to jog your memory, Renslayer was pruned by Brad/Sylvie in ep4. Everything that we saw from episode 1 to 4 in Season 2 happened exactly the same as what we saw on screen with evidently no butterfly effect changes from Loki's actions during his time-slipping.
If the question is, "In that case, why is there a young Victor who was shown to have never received a copy of the TVA manual?", that's because that is how branching timelines work. Every action results in a branched timeline, so when a copy of the TVA manual was dropped through young Victor's window, we were already watching the POV of a branched timeline.
It's far more logical to assume that the young Victor we saw in ep6 is the one from the sacred timeline/616 where the TVA manual wasn't dropped into his window, instead of assuming that Renslayer was pruned right before she dropped it in, and thus erasing an entire branched timeline where Victor grew up and went on an adventure in the TVA. I mean, that's the new motto of the TVA, isn't it? Not to sacrifice lives for the greater good. I can't imagine B-15 would ever go along with that kind of decision ever again. Also, if Renslayer never made it back to the TVA to try and recruit Brad and the general, the general would still be alive and well, and we would have seen her in the meeting room at the end of the episode.
So here's what I found interesting about Loki - I didn't care about special effects or a big fight scene or anything like that. The best scenes in this series were just characters talking - for me, it's when Kang meets Sylvie & Loki the first time and then this season when Loki revisits that event and also most conversations between Mobius and Loki
Agreed, that's what happens when you've got a great writer who can pen some remarquable characters, plots, and dialogues, and with formidable actors able to deliver them, captured by fantastic cinematographers who know how to lit and frame shots, accompanied by a fantastic composer who knows how to enhance the mood and emotion with her music. And with great directors to be able to maestro the shit out of all of this cacophony to make it a symphony.
This show is the full package !
People say it's the best MCU thing since Endgame, I say scratch Endgame, Loki is the best story ever made in the MCU's history.
What I found crazy abt the first avengers movie is that ppl in mcu thought n believed that Loki n tony would be essentially the last ppl to sacrifice anything but tony gave his everything n sacrificed his life to save everyone from thanks n Loki took the burden of multiverse n chose to be alone for eternal for his dear ones to have a chance to live their lives... I feel like coming a long way from avengers both tony n Loki have made the ultimate sacrifices... which is others happiness n future above their own. It’s a great way to end their journey.
Season 2 blew my expectations out of the water. Best character arc in the MCU. Best MCU tv show.
The MCU needs Tom to stick around. If they want to flip this narrative of bad projects, they MUST keep Loki involved in some manner. Star power like his, is exactly why fans loved Phases 1-3, bc of great actors and characters!!! Tom Hiddleston, RDJ, Chris Evan’s, Scar-Jo, Chris Hemsworth, and Mark Ruffalo are all great actors who make their characters even better
Exactly
Of course we’ll see loki again! Even the showrunner said all of lokis movements are leading up to him reuniting with thor! As he said in Infinity War “ the sun will shine upon us again”!
I think that HWR Loki will be in Thor 5 maybe??? I heard that Thor 5 is in early production
SHOWRUNNER? SOURCE?, im coping
We saw a pyramid shortly after Renslayer woke up in the void. The purple light that appears afterwards may not be Alioth but a variant of Kang (Rama-Tut).
That's a possibility for sure! I don't believe Renslayer is gone myself
Damn, I forgot the pyramid. Great call.
9:50 she was pruned by x5 in ep4 thats how she got to the void
Renslayer can control Alioth. It has been alluded to when they tell us that she was the one that defeated the variants and won the war. She probably used Alioth and she will again, based on her face at the end.
I agree that Loki’s specific story may be done, but Loki will still be apart of what’s to come. Currently he is the only one who knows of the coming threat. The TVA is monitoring, and they will discover Deadpool and Wolverine, who in turn will be recruited to TVA. When we get to Kang Dynasty I am 100% sure Loki will be required, all Avengers will be required for Kang, my 2 cents
Frigga must be proud
I like Victor Timely as a good guy. I hope they can keep him around.
Personally, I think Renslayer is dead.
That look on her face when in the void seemed like the look of someone accepting their fate on said timeline.
She doesnt have any weapons or time stopping/travelling items to quell Alioth.
But, Man... What an ending for Loki.
I had chills through those last 2 soundtracks.
I wonder what happened to all the Loki variants. Renslayer was alone, so does that mean the TVA sent them to some timeline? I'd hope they are all alive and well, they area ll still Loki after all.
Also the Variants that Renslayer prune herself the guards. Where the Guards/Variants came from like Dox or Brad or others?
The Void was really large. Planet-size large. Just because we saw Renslayer sitting in a certain place all by herself doesn't mean that there weren't a lot of Lokis roaming around the Void.
Loki is saving the Marvel MCU mess since Ironman
With the time slipping ability Loki taking decades to learn something....kind of backs up what "He Who Remains" said when he says "I've lived a million lifetimes"
At first I thought Victor Timely’s book didn’t come through too, but look again. Its there
please don't stop doing the top tier 10/10
Season 1 was average because it felt like they we trying to replace Loki with a female Loki. This season was about Loki and he came out as the ultimate hero. I little surprised that the MCU allowed a male hero and look what we got, the best MCU series to date.
I called it since Episode 1, Ouroboros, when they said the "Loki Who Remains".
If Victor Timely never receives the book, it's also quite likely that as a result Loki will never destroy the loom and will never create the multiverse tree... I doubt anyone would have wanted to jeopardize that.
The timeline where young Victor never received the book has always existed - it was the natural flow of time on the sacred timeline. Timely getting the book created a branch. It can't be that this branch has never existed because otherwise most of Loki season 2 would have never happened. It did happen, so the branch must exist. Both timelines exist next to each other inside Loki's multiverse tree.
Victor Timely was in the TVA when Loki walked out.
I think these characters will be back, just not in the Loki series. They should integrate into the greater MCU now.
PS: Speculation is that a Kang swooped in and picked up Renslayer.
Ok but I still don't understand how he was able to withstand those massive amounts of temporal radiation, or how he knew how to do what he did following his destroying the loom. Kind of a random massive power buff if you ask me
He is Frost Giant!
Him, withstanding the temporaral radiation can easily be explained by his physiology as a Frost Giant (even after getting pruned to restore himself, his body is unaffected by the radiation when he's exposed to temporal radiation and thrown back to TVA).
Him, figuring out how to restore the dying branches could include him, time slipping endlessly, without us realizing it. After all, that's what happened when he's talking with HWR about the Time-stopping ability. We were led to believe that's the first time they're having that talk but then we realized Loki already time-slipped unspecified amount of times and learnt time-stopping as well.
Yeah, my take on it is that he's doing a similar thing than Wolverine in X-Men 3 the last Stand (terrible movie, I know, but the end was quite memorable), when he had to face Jean in full Phoenix force mode, and his healing factor kept him together while he was getting torn apart by Jean. Here, Loki could very well timeslip himself back up to counteract the Time Radiation's aging.
He's a Frost Giant. They have the same life expectancy as Asgardians - several thousand years. So they age much, much slower than humans. If the time radiation ages him by 500 years for example, that isn't so much for him, and he will still look the same.
@@proximashining776 It might, but we've seen Sylvie getting Spaghettified before, so I don't think that being a Frost giant makes you immune to it, you just stay intact a few seconds more, that's it. What makes Loki special is his new time slipping ability.
Season 3 can be about Sylvie or kid Loki
If Valhalla exists, and Heimdall and Jane Foster are both there, there's no reason why Loki can't be there too. I mean the Loki who was killed by Thanos in Infinity War. If it's an afterlife for Asgardians, there's no reason for him not to be there, especially as he died a hero's death, protecting his brother. Sure, he's not biologically an Asgardian, he was born a Frost Giant, but Jane Foster isn't an Asgardian either.
No need for a season 3. It wrapped up everything up nicely
The Tree of Life 🌳💪🏼
What about Miss Minutes??😮
Loki❤❤❤❤❤🥹
He’s just letting his excitement just control him without the reality that the MCU as a whole is a huge mess right now. He’s going off about Loki coming back and Kang Dynasty when all of that is in a huge state of flux.
MCU was almost as messy during phase 2.
Yes. We must not let the excitement of a good project deter us from the fact we have miserable lives. I agree man!
Aliens not Gods!
Emmy 😂😂
MCU = Mid cinematic universe.... but was like a traffic accident that we couldn't turn our heads away from
Loki the best of the worst disney plus t v shows.