Everything You Need To Know About The 2021 RAM 4500 & 5500 | 5 Reason Why I Would Choose Over A 3500
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- Check out this detailed video on the Ram Chassis Cab and why I would choose this to tow a BIG Fifth Wheel!
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Info: www.ramtrucks.com
Big Thanks to Tate Chrysler in Frederick, MD!
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Trim Levels:
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Thanks for doing a video on the big boys. Your channel is great because of the more detailed descriptions you give us of the vehicles. You go much more in depth and show more of the options and just give a better over-all discussion of the trucks and all that is available in them. The dealers need to appreciate that your videos are much more detailed and are more likely to sell a vehicle than many others because of the better info we get from you. Good job covering this big Ram.
Thanks Mike, really appreciate your comment 🙏🏾
Ram is missing out by not offering a traditional bed on the 4500/5500 IMHO. Thanks for showing us this one!
Hey I agree! 19.5 wheels/tires, wide trac, and a few of the options mentioned would sway me to a 4500! Thanks for sharing bro 👍🏾
Been saying this for years. Even lower the actual payload like ford does with the f450 that has a bed. That way you avoid regulations of being in the mid duty class truck “cuts back on power, no high output last I checked” but gear it lower than a normal 3500 and slap a bed on it and it would be perfect
💯 I wish they would do a 14k 4500 RAM. Maybe next generation they will 👍🏾
Mopar always does that. Leave room for Ford and GM to beat them. Look at the 2500. Why not offer the HO Cummins as an option there too along with the Aisin transmission. Everyone who knows Ram knows that the Aisin is a much better unit in the long run. Also Mopar doesn’t have an suv to really compete with the other full size SUV’s. Plus it’s about time they upgrade their Hemi engines to be able to compete with the amount of power Ford and GM put out. they do it every time. Fall way behind before they answer. That’s why i haven’t gotten a new truck yet. The new truck has the same engine as my 2014.
I agree. GM as well.
Great demonstration, the turning radius was impressive. You were absolutely right about the Mega Cab issue. There is a company that offers a Mega Cab and the longbed. They cut the frame and extend it.
As someone who is in the market and researching this truck for purchase, very informative, thank you
Thanks Rich, glad it was helpful 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork anytime Brother, stay doin what you're doin
A ton of information, you really know your stuff. Thank you.
I have a 2020 4500 Laramie that I use for my hotshot business. You definitely need some weight on the pin to settle the massive leaf spring package down. Nice video!
Nice!!! A couple of people have mentioned they have Laramie trims. Someone also mentioned adding air suspension but I bet it’s $$$. Thanks for sharing 👍🏾
What is your max fifth wheel tow?
Good job sir on the video. Great information. You far outshine others on this.
Thank You
Great video. Thanks for showing the trucks that rarely get any kind of attention.
Absolutely!
Good review - you do not see these trucks very often. I had a F-450 and now have a F-250. The F-450 with the wide track was easier to park and turn.
Thanks Jeffrey! I agree, parking a wide track truck is a lot easier 👍🏾
Thanks for details
No problem!
I love those trucks!
I'm a newbie to these big trucks. Why are the front wheels different from the rear wheels? Is there a structural reason why their shape is that of a truncated cone pointing outwards?
For a truck like that, a tradesman with tough vinyl seats would be cool with a black diamond plate flatbed...mercy and 52 gallons!!! I would start forgetting that you have to put diesel in it
Lol! 74 gallons of diesel will make you feel like your driving a Prius! I would pick a cool color for the tradesman too just because you can 👍🏾
Thank you for the review!!!!
Thanks for watching bro 👍🏾
Definitely got a new sub here. Love the reviews and the knowledge you bring.
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Do these end up with the death wobble like super duty does when front suspension wears out?
With a 84”cab to axel can i haul an rv i will have enough clearance from back bumper to the rv?
I wish Ram would create a 4500/5500 mega cab with a long box and 60 gallon fuel tank😍
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Those tires will outlast a 3500’s after 3 sets lol. Today I was thinking about getting one of these in a Laramie package. Throw a nice flat bed on it. I like these because you can add dual fuel tanks.
I think I'm in love with that truck I want it
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I enjoyed this 👍🏽
Thanks bro!
Great info , anyway possible you could to a video on a ram 3500 cab & chassis
Thanks! If I have a chance, I will go back to the dealer and get some footage 👍🏾
I have had 2 of these and I have another one on order. Put some weight on it and it rides way better. Or put a kelderman air suspension on it for silk smooth.
Thanks for sharing! I would love to own one of these in the future, such a beast of a rig. How much is the air and does it replace leafs?
Love the turning on the 4500 and the 5500. That is awesome they give 2 fuel tanks for 84 gallons of fuel. Thanks for the review JB. To bad Ram doesn't offer the double tanks or just the 52 gallon tank on the 3500.
Thanks for sharing Ric! I’m sure you meant to put 74 gallon but you’re just like me with these fat fingers 😂! I hope the next generation of RAM will not hold out on a larger fuel tank 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork yep fat fingers are a big problem. It would be nice if the 2 tanks were an option.
Ram does offer a 50 gallon tank as a
$300 upgrade on the 3500.
@@bradjohnson3201 I know they do. The 50 gallon tank would be an option I would get no doubt.
@@bradjohnson3201 I just Purchased a 5500 for my Car Hauling Business. We had 4500 that we are retiring after 10 years and 300k miles on it. Love the Cummins engine. I was wondering if you can tell me about The two fuel tanks. The one that comes with the truck 52 gal and I have the additional 22 gal Tank, is there a switch inside the truck to so you can switch over to Auxiliary Fuel tank? I can’t find one and there is nothing in the manual about it. Or Does both tanks get used and there is NO switch ? Any ideas how it works? With 74 gals of fuel, we pull 3 car trailer, we get around 10-12 MPG, I should be able to go around 700 miles in between Fuel stops. We just put it on the road this week and still experimenting. Your input would be much appreciated.
Thx I enjoy your videos
No problem, Appreciate it 👍🏾
Great video as always JB!! But I’m still hooked on the 3500 Laramie. Interiors are just so luxurious, I can tow whatever I want and in style. Got one coming next month! Thanks for the info, keep it coming. 👍
Thank you Billy! You can get a cab/chassis in a Laramie spec but the 3500 is still a beast! Good luck on the new truck 👍🏾
hey man, hows the 3500 treating ya??? You think the 3500 can handle a 5 car haul? or is that too much?
Did these 4500/5500 trucks with the Cummins offer a exhaust brake? It would definitely help when stopping a heavy truck.
Yes they have exhaust brake, work well and it sounds great too.
That’s standard in these trucks
Can I Install a pick up bed in a 4500 or 5500 ? I would love to get a new ram 5500 chassis and put a 3500 bed to tow my horses around, does a 4500 and 5500 tow better ?
You can and I’m sure there’s companies that can do it 👍🏾
FYI - the "CA" is for "cab to axle." That's back of cab to axle center measurement for sizing a body to mount on it.
🙏🏾 thank you!
Nice video young man.
Thank you Ken 👍🏾
JB, my question to you is, can I add that 52 gallon rear tank to my 3500, and would it fit where my spare tire would normally be? If so, what is the part number for that tank, cause it appears that the dealership does not have that in their database?
Good question, I’m not sure it would fit but you can look into the 50 gallon tank available for the 3500’s 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork I’ve seen that, but I need two tanks regardless
@@JB_WhoWork The main thing would be for aesthetics , a clean install that looks factory instead of getting one of the bed tanks that make your truck look like a work truck, and also the fact that I pull a gooseneck trailer, increased mileage
Something along the line of a Titan tank replaces your OE tank, just longer and wider with special mounts.
Does the 5500. Have the wide track axle like the 4500? I must have missed it..
So I actually Hear that the 4500 and 5500 ram Cummins is not D tuned they are tested differently than the 2500 and 3500s are, that’s why the power numbers are lower
They already charged in the base price for the 6.7 and Aisin. They get to charge again for them as "Options"?
$695 for 22 gallon extra tank? It already Base has the 52
Base price includes 6.4L gas, Cumins is optional
Thumbs up JB😁
You da man!
Awesome big boy truck
Was looking at this truck eating oatmeal next door @McDonald's 😅
Yup!
And you didn’t stop by 😢
@@JB_WhoWork it was 630am
I have buddies who have car hauling business. They have have some serious trouble around 60,000 miles plus with emission, egr, and something else I cant remember the name but it cost money having a truck down for repairs. Thousands. Have dodge corrected this issue with the 5500?
I haven’t heard of any issues, do they idle a lot?
@@JB_WhoWork just driving everyday. I know they stop for loads but don’t idle for long.
@@JB_WhoWork you have not heard any issues with the 5500s? For some reason they’ll buy them new and sell after about 80,000 I’m wondering if it’s because of the emission issues .
@@JB_WhoWork turbo actuators
Yea emission is the death of the diesel...
Are the front end and rear ends wider on the 4500 vs the 3500’s
Yes
Actually even after the price of a good bed, this is alot of truck and capability for the money.
Another awesome video! Thanks jb.
Thank you Gary 🙏🏾👍🏾
I've seen 60CA, 84CA, 108CA, 120CA. I'm sure they'd even make it longer if ordered. So the statement that only 60 and 84CA is offered is incorrect. Usually a 60CA will do the 9ft flatbed and the 84CA an 11ft flatbed. Obviously it can also be configured with a service body, utility body, gooseneck, etc.
Keep in mind what’s available for the regular cab is not available for the crew cab
@@JB_WhoWork I've been searching through available inventory in a nearby dealer and even crew cab on 5500 goes up to 108CA on a limited or Laramie trim
What’s the total trailer weight of this and the 4500?
Not sure, search 2020 RAM 4500 GCWR on google and look for PDF in small print. I forgot to look for the info myself but maybe I will review another and add that info in next video 👍🏾
Interesting that when you changed the axle ratio on the 5500 that the towing capacity went from 34000 to 17000!
Yea I almost wonder if they should even offer a lower axle ratio... Some of the commercial trucks will probably never tow a trailer above 15k so why take the hit on fuel mileage is why it’s available 👍🏾
That’s a lot of bullshit though. You don’t have to have the ridiculous 4.89 or whatever it is ratio to tow that heavy shit. My 3500 with 4:10s has a tire that less than an inch shorter and will tow big weight just as this truck could without any issue. That talk gear in these trucks would be miserable for on highway use.
@@cadeharris2057 ur 3500 ain’t towing any big weight like the 4500 or 5500. Especially not legally lol. And moving it forward is one thing, stopping is a whole other thing.
I would like someone to explain that to me. How does a 3500 with 4:10s tow over 30k but a 5500 drops from 4:89 to 4:44 and it drops the tow max to low 20s? Doesn’t add up to me.
@@paultasker9759 detuned engine. 45 and 5500 is build for payload not towing
Is it just the audio playing tricks on me, or is the 6.7L nosier in the CC? Not that it's a problem, but I'm just wondering if I'm hearing a difference.
It did seem louder than the other Cummins now that you mention it 🤔. Could be the colder weather too 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork Also, from hearing inside the cab, I'd bet Chassis Cabs have less sound deadening.
It’s possible especially not having carpet too
It’s not that bad in the Cab with doors closed and windows rolled up. After a few times driving it, I guess I’ve become used to it and the cab seems pretty quiet overall.
4500/5500 is def louder than the 2500/3500. Sounds like more grunt lol
Awesome review, got nervous watching this because I just picked up a 2020 4500 Laramie to pull my 5th wheel and was hoping I didn’t miss out by not waiting. By the way you mentioned that the steel beds are about 2000Lbs but I have a steel flat bed and it only weighs about 950Lbs.
Thank You! Man I don’t know why more people don’t choose these. I found the ride to be decent for how stiff the suspension. Awesome that you got a Laramie pkg too, thanks for sharing 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork I agree with you when you say that they aren’t as bad as people think. I came from a 3500 dually as a daily and now I drive this everyday. Once the bed goes, for me it was a night and day difference having that weight out back. I live in southeastern PA and picked it up in NC so I really got the experience before I put the bed on.
Oh wow, do you remember fuel mileage on your trip home? Send me your email as I would like to post your setup if you’re ok with it 👍🏾 how far are you from Frederick, MD too?
@@JB_WhoWork Good question, I do not remember. Yeah I don’t mind, I will shoot you a quick email. I am about 2 hours away. I am just north of Oxford.
Would love to get footage of your setup
Great review jb did you hear the 2021 ho is now 1,075 ft/ibs torque
Thanks bro! I did, and I’m sure next month Ford will announce they will have 1090 tq 😂! I was hoping they got rid of the CP4 as that’s more beneficial 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork I've heard they just updated it cp4.2 pd diesel says to buy a 2020 made after September to get the updated one
Good stuff 👍🏾
JB Reviews I’ve heard they’re back running a cp3 for 2021. Not 100% sure but looking under the hood of a 21 it sure resembles a CP3 and doesn’t look at all like a CP4
Matt Isaac 4.2 was late 2020 you can tell the difference by the number of dimples in pump.
Sounds Nice,I Might Buy One,Have A F450,,Now,Thinking About Getting A Dodge Now
I agree, how has the F450 been?
@@JB_WhoWork Had a Few a Problems With It,It Is A 2019,I Haul Cattle With It,In June It Will Be 2 Year’s Old,Going To Get A New One,Just Might Get A Dodge
@@JB_WhoWork In One Month I Had To Replace The Turbo And Everything That Had To Do With My Brakes Also The Batteries,Truck Did Not Even Have 36 Thousand Miles On It,Ford Did Not Honor The Warranty On The Brakes,Very Disappointed In Ford
Wow sorry to hear... Have you owned a RAM in the past? I think the cab/chassis are more reliable since they don’t have so much power being forced through them from the boost 👍🏾
Wow that’s crazy... I can see if it was something you modified but not cover components is bad business... hopefully insurance stepped up...
They actually have lower power because the emissions standards are different on a commercial truck. All of the manufacturers do that.
Charles @Now you know nobody cares about that!Somewhere we WILL find someone to help us out with that!
What are recommendations on the 2020 Ram as far as idling? I’m at TruckStops sometimes doing by 10 break. My truck does a regen during the night but I’ve heard that we shouldn’t idle overnight.
Do you have a clean diesel sticker?
@@JB_WhoWork yessir
You can idle it but most people say because of the emissions crap not to. I recommend a generator over idling personally 👍🏾
I personally would not idle overnight regardless of clean idle sticker or not. The only exception would be if you are deleted. Then it would be ok but not ideal. I would recommend getting a small honda generator and running that instead.
Pretty informative but I still had questions
These are very complex
That's absolutely crazy that a truck that size can turn so tight
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@@JB_WhoWork 😁👍
When is Ram going to offer a 6500 and a 7500 truck?
May as well just buy a rig at that point
No, you can’t add the regular dually bed onto the 4500/5509 chassis because the frames are different from the 3500’s and they won’t line up ! I checked into this with Ram ! There is a company in California that makes custom beds for them and a company in Texas called Genesis that does too !!!
Thanks for sharing Tony 👍🏾
I have 4500 with aiming trans
I have a 5500 limited and added air ride all around and it is the roughest ride I’ve ever had. Wish I would have went with a 3500 as before.
Seriously??? Do you have Kelderman?
Yes
I haven’t had a chance to test it but everyone says it’s night/day better than stock 👍🏾
If you pump the tires to recommended pressure. There is little difference. I’ve done about everything possible to remedy the problem including 3 sets of tires in 16000 miles. Michelins now have improved some. When I talked to kelderman they said I have to remember it is still a medium truck. They suggested air bags at 8 inches and tire pressure at 75. Far cry from recommended 100 psi. Also more weight. I pull a 44 ft toy hauler which is somewhat hitch light. And the hauler bed is all aluminum thus it is too light. It needs the bed filled with concrete, seriously. I’ve added a 4000 lb block when Bob tailing and it does help. I look at the 5500 as a big mistake for pulling a camper. For construction work pulling a heavy trailer it would or well. Another thing is the 5500 gearing is too low and the Cummins is. Not high performance, thus it has low power from a dead stop. Chrysler should not sell that truck excep for construction.
Why do the 4500 sound like it needs to change another gear when traveling at high speed
What do you consider high speed for a 4500?
Why not put air bag suspension on these trucks like on a semi? .better ride and more room in the frame .leaf springs is old, almost primitive technology.
Very true 👍🏾
Check out Kelderman if you want air air ride.
Hot shotters could use the mega cab
I agree!
worth a like on my end
@jb reviews the 3500 is you and the 4500/5500 is the guy she tells you not to worry about lol you got a sub i know most but just fun
Lol! Thanks for the sub bro 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork anytime wish they had a pickup bed option and also the non detuned cummins im looking at one for rv and a work that least a Laramie that no megacab is a bummer but what can you do. Also do you know any good bed companies in Ontario or Southern Ontario
I’m willing to bet that RAM is moving into the direction of adding a bed option for at least a 4500. Typically RAM follows Ford on what they do.
I’m not too sure on bed conversions, sorry 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork have you heard if there making the 5th gen HD cab ??
2023 would be my best guess but should see something in 2022. I’m not in the know circle as I will tell everything to you guys lol!
I'm Asian and this looks like the ultimate super stiff, super wide compensizer for me
Lol 😂
The trim packages on these Rams are a sales gimmick. You can get almost every single high end option on a tradesman if you ordered it.
My 2021 has a 5 minute idel time auto shutoff.
Its 2021 that little screen is Ridiculous, at least it should have a 7" inch screen or an 8"
Yea, tradesman it makes sense but $65k isn’t cheap...
@@JB_WhoWork Power truck.. Appreciate the reviews
Dodge makes a nice truck,but if they really want to hit a grand slam,offer a 4500/5500 MEGA-CAB!The heads of FORD and CHEVY would commit hari-kari!!!
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489 is a lower axle ratio .444 is the higher axle ratio . Rpms per mph.
Why the fuck would ram de tune the Cummins like give it 450 hp 1075 lb foot of torque. That it needs that’s fucked up ram
Reason it’s got less horsepower is the federal government Ford Chevrolet and Dodge when it comes to a cabin chassis is less horsepower to meet the federal government mandated clean air act that’s the reason it’s less horsepower
Deleted and tuned in less than a week fuck em
@@kylejohnson3892 how much of a bang did that do for it?
@@oldrango883 right about 600hp at the tire rn
Everything is fine, but we have a Gazelle Next in Russia for $ 18,000.
Hate that they detune the engine.
It’s a good thing! You can’t get the full 1000 lb ft of tq unless you’re towing anyways 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork I have a fifth wheel that is 13k empty. Want the power of the new 3500's, but in the 4500 format.
If you get a 3500 with air suspension, you will pretty much have it 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork Could you please explain what you mean by "You can’t get the full 1000 lb ft of tq unless you’re towing anyways'?
@@JB_WhoWork I would politely beg to differ. The 4500 is a very different truck. I would want the 4500 or 5500 for the wide track front end first and foremost. I also like the 19.5's from the factory as well as the c channel frame in the rear witch arguably makes it easier to add a flatbed instead of the fully boxed frame.
They could have put ford and Chevy out of business in the late 90s with a truck like that ford always had the better chassis dodge had the better diesel now dodge copied ford and have boat anchors for engines
The base 6.7 has 370 hp 950 lb ft high output makes 410 hp 1075 lb ft jeez get it right
Completely unnecessary 3500 diesel will do the job just fine
Very true but a lot of people don’t think to buy cab/chassis because dealers don’t recommend them. If you’re doing 20000 or higher RV’s, these trucks should be in the conversation.
Not if you have heavy pin weight.
Bigger brakes, rear end, suspension and tires last twice as long. This is not a truck for personal use.
This is 2020 not 2021.
Correct but I mentioned specs on 2021 cab/chassis trucks too