Traxxas SLEDGE Vs. Arrma KRATON EXB Comparison SUPER FAIL!
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I've made that same call and dash up to Hobbytown Plano a few times myself. And always for Arrma parts. I got to drive the Sledge yesterday at Traxxas HQ store. . Fun truggy. I was surprised at how much better it felt than the eRevo 2.0. Felt much more solid and planted. IT was also alot easier to keep the nose down.
Choice is good. Fun times were had with the kids, that's always good. Just don't like that Traxxas tax. Kraton 6s RTR 599.99 and its on sale right now for 529.99. None of these companies are my friends so I'll be trying to keep as much money as I can in my wallet.😉
Ya but don’t forget you will have to upgrade the steering out of the box if you want the kraton to turn!
@@davidpetersen6373 or turn up the esc bec to give more power to the servo don’t turn it up to much or else it’ll fry it make sure that you figure out the max voltage the servo can take before you do this it might already be at its limit you can figure this out by searching for the servo on horizon hobby or amain hobbies in the product description you can use the controller to program the esc but it’s easier with the programming box but the stock servo should more than strong enough it’s just in the slow side but upgrad8ng the servos never hurt if you get a good one for the price protec makes some really good servos some of the protec servos have optional gear kits in case you break the gears an other good option is align servos there made for helicopters but are really fast and stron like the protec ones you can get spare parts for them
@@eminstinct4114 how you do that?
These cars not cheap
@@d-nice2866 there’s lots of tutorials one TH-cam just look up bec tutorial for spektrum firma 150 amp esc
Good comparison. I think they are both great cars and competition is great for our hobby. I have roughly $650 in my Kraton. $329 Black Friday, $20 metal gear servo, $260 Max 6 combo 1650kv 20T pinion, $40 Dumborc 6 channel w/avc. Gps at 66mph on grass on 6s, can run 8s. Stock punch setting (3). If the traxxas was $650-699 I’d own one as well. Can’t lose with either of these. 👍🏻
Looking forward to the Sledge! Made the mistake of adding a ton to my XMAXX and then it started braking and having hearing issues. It sits taken apart in a box🤬. I’m leaving the sledge stock as I did the Maxx and it never breaks. I added the 1.5 gears, a new motor and esc etc and man just the bit extra weight has caused so many issues! Never again. Love you brought the kids out!!
I think thas a pretty fair comparison for first time bash with the young men. Great video and glad you all got to enjoy the nice weather for a bit.
Fun video regardless of the vehicles. The wheels blowing out after 15 runs though...as a non-racer who doesn't ever change tires...that's a bit concerning to me as I hate buying new tires. But it's always hard to tell because everyone drives their own way. So fun to see the boys out there having fun with RC and flipping them.
@Memer Dreamer the truck overall is very impressive to me though. Mark has given it a very fair review in videos and I think people are absolutely gonna love it.
Nice video dude! Was interesting to see how these monsters stacked up to each other. One thing I will mention though is that in the beginning the arrma was gonna run you just shy of $1k… realistically If you got all the stock Spektrum electronics from JennysRC (and I even made a video on it a while back and JRC is NOT a scam) then it would only be about $720. (I know you put a really nice Savox in there, but the stock S652 is $20 on JRC and from what I’ve seen is actually really fast and torquey) And as for the punch settings, you can adjust those with the little secondary button on the esc without the little programming card. Not trying to diss you or anything, and I like your content, just wanted to put that out there.
Awesome video you inspired me to get the sledge and show it on my channel Great work on your videos
Still not sure why most feel one has to be better than the other. I don’t own either but both look great.
I mean it's not a feeling. One's always going to be better.
story of our lives right
Hey preciate you pumping these videos out for those of us who are buying their next RC car and undecided. I think I’m buying the sledge next just because of product/ parts availability…. Which u outlined in the beginning of the video 😂
I'm getting mine at the end of the month! Can't wait! Have fun Rc'n man !!!!
Great video, I can’t believe Evan isn’t really into RC that much! That might be a side effect of having a dad who loved RCs so much, I’d be happy to be your son! Lol I’d also jump at the chance to bash a beast like a Keaton EXB or a Sledge!
In my opinion they are not at all comparable. The Sledge is a RTR and the Kraton EXB is a roller! 👍
For what it's worth, he _did_ put the same ESC and motor into his Kraton that come in the RTR ones.
And the V5 RTR Kraton 6S actually has a lot of the durability upgrades from EXB, so should be fairly comparable to the Sledge (but is cheaper).
Love the real world side by side review. Nice driven 👍 guys. That was rad
Oh he didn't put his crocks in 4 wheel drive.... had me in stitches! Great content brutha! I want a sledge sooooo bad!
hi Mark i’m stuck between which car should I get so I thought because you’re doing a jewel between the two I would watch your video you have two great boys look like they had fun but I’m still nowhere near on deciding whatI need.great video as always I enjoy your channel all the best from the UK👊🏻👊🏻
i think both are great. traxxas studied the flaws on the kraton and obviously fixed those issues. now it's arrma's move.
Exactly what I was thinking when I saw traxxas’ improvements on the Kraton design. Can’t be mad at competition!
Fair assessment.
Back to Back trucks. Fun is fun either brand
Mark you exb bumper isnt really broken it just pulled the screws out. It happened to me on my first runs too. I just put washers and put button head screws on and it never pulled away again. The outcast exb and talion exb use the same design for the bumper but they now have washer+button head instead of countersunk the kraton has
Thanks for coming to our shop mark! Sadly I wasn’t working that day :(
Your kids are natural drivers. Kudos to them for playing with rc,s when they didn't want to. 👏
I introduced my 10yr old son to the arc and bought him a wltoys 124019 and he is addicted! When he comes from to school wants to tv first and forgets about his phone (Roblox etc)
I’m so glad I can share my hobby with my boy
Hi mark, after owning them both a few months which would be your recommendation, I’m torn between the two.
Hey Mark! Thanks for the vids you make, awesome stuff! A bit off-topic here: did you think about reviewing some of Carisma trucks? Not a lot of info on youtube and most of it is kind of old. Not sure it's going to be interesting to a lot of people, but the price seems decent. And I think their Range Rover looks pretty cool. Happy to hear your thoughts!
Carisma makes some good RC’s my friend. I have the Coyote & it crawls as good as much more expensive Crawlers. I just replaced the wheelset.
Love to see the family time. Good show my dude.
Hi Mark, What servo did you end up putting in the Kraton EXB I’m looking for info on my first build. Love your vids. Did you ever change the motor and esc either?
My kids are the same way. I give them each a truck and they chase each other with sticks and rocks
You quoted the Kraton EXB at FULL RETAIL with an overpriced Servo, and a ridiculous number for RXTX. This is so swayed 😂😂😂
You can literally get the motor and ESC as brand new take offs for 115$ for the set on Jennys RC.
And a Amazon 35kg Servo is more than enough.
My entire Kraton EXB build comes out to 80$ less than a sledge with the same system in it. 😂
No way your telling us these kids don’t like RC’s when they out here front flipping and back flipping like professionals lol
they like RC racing at the tracks i think is what he was saying, not so much the other stuff
@@patrickmccarthy3289 oh okay I gotcha. I guess racing RC’s is totally different than playing with RC’s that were mean to tumble 300 yards and survive. What type of RC cars do most people race? Buggies?
@@drivenrc lots of buggy, truggy and short course vehicles.
Im a basher more so than anything else but it is a different mindset/purpose when you race competitively compared to just bashing in your street or local park.
650 kraton v5 is more inline with the traxxas sledge. The exb can be any cost over 450. You can put a solid max 8 system for 200. That's 650. And decent remote and reciever for 100. It's 750. Servo you're at 800. 1000 is a upgraded price range. Imo.
Your youngest had the best reason. "Because it's fun". That's all that matters in this hobby. Great Video Mark.
Nice vid man, fun with your boys is cool over everything, but can u give me the info on that dewalt drill and the drill bits, I desperately need that for my rcs
Hey man will the front basher bumper fit on the sledge ?
All these arguments when all it really comes down to is preference... hey mark had a thought will the sledge battery tray fit the super maxx if you lopped off the servo holder??
I think they’re all roughly about the same bent chassis on the new sledge rip two tires the only problem I have not had is the pinion spinning off like it has on some and there’s nothing there to block it from hitting the motor wires and then getting it all that mess I have a Mojave EXB same ramp same situation and had a problem with it yet the other arm at EXB bent it so I guess it’s on how you Land and how are you drive them Problem is I can’t get parts for the sledge until next week
That was so fun! Cool kids Bro! I have 4 Arrmas now. It’s just time for something different. Well… 🤔ok. Not different different. Just figure it is time to try a large traxxas. I like the Sledge.
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Sledge ya the Sledge 😂🤘🏼
Your troll game is on 10000000! Lol. I’m one minute into the video and cracking up!
I recently just got a Kraton 6s, my first basher and am looking for places in DFW to bash at. Know any good spots in DFW, I'm in north Fort Worth.
Great video guys👍
How much run time do you get out of the sledge? On average
Good comparison, and let the boys do the driving🥰. The carnage wasnt to bad. And i enjoy both brands a lot❤, thank you, and happy weekend
how are you doing wheelies that easy with the sledge bc when I floor my sledge my tires are just spinning but I can't do wheelies
The first backflip Ethan did was epic! 😄👌
That's why someone should buy either car, just like the younger kid said "It's just Fun" that's is the best reason to buy a R/C any of the name brand hobby grade models will be tons of fun, and are quality so do like the boys and pick what one looks best to you...both are such great R/C cars...the sledge is new but will be awesome...
That was so cute the boys and a true hearted comparison.🤪🤪🤪still unless u have the funds the sledge is the way to go...gunna have to get me one and already have a stupid list of hoppups....so many combos....but still boils down to support for me in the which one to buy
This was so good dude. Love it. I don't understand why people so bent out of shape about that stuff. Cracks me up!
Any chance of a comparison of the 1/8 Truggies between Kaiju EXT, Arrma Kraton, Team Corally Punisher XTR and Traxxas Sledge.
I've recently purchased a Traxxas TRX-4 2021 Ford Bronco with light kit and Pro-Line racing crawler tires and wheels. I think the crawler is awesome.
Also that Sledge slamming into the Kratons front wheels sideways for sure broke the servo! 👍
I like Arrma but I can’t stand the servo saver in the Kraton EXB. It was pretty much unusable until I shimmed it, still wasn’t great so need to try another shim then I’m sure I’ll blow the servo. Anyway both trucks seem really similar. I’d probably still go Kraton for the money, it’s cheaper unless you put good electronics in it, then it’s more expensive but way better electronics than the Traxxas.
Great video as always. If you want to compare the Sledge to a Talion, you can borrow mine.
For which one is better comes down to which one puts a bigger smile on your face 😃
Thank you for making this and being epic, I love your channel bro
Good comparison they really dont care at all got to do it agin . Good vid 👌👍yourkids are cool 😎
Well…they weren’t kidding when they said all they wanted you to have to replace was the tires.
That Truggy style truck is just like short course truck. Almost every brand has that style.
EXBs blow servos pretty easily because they have a poor steering linkage geometry. It's the reason I have my turning radius so high on my kraton. They need to shorten the mechanical travel.
Yeah, and the servo saver design on the 5th scale is just..bad.
Didnt blow a since servo on mine yet. I use cheap 25kgs. The servo saver is in the soft side
Kids in the video are so funny 🤣 For a second there, I thought your oldest was wearing my shirt lmao!
Need a part #2!!!
🤣👏👏love it. Definitely the most fun to watch and brutal honest comparison 💯 Evan has me laughing. Both are serious rigs though. It's a hard to choose between the two. Traxxas definitely hit em with the left though, nobody saw this coming 🤣I'd like to see the Kronos in there also 🙏🏿..but anyway, great video 💯
Oh man...
I can say with confidence just from owning both arrma and Traxxas, that the Traxxas will definitely have the better drivetrain. Other than that, if price is no object, both are great choices. One allows you to pick whatever electronics you want, and they other comes ready to go with pretty good specs. I do prefer the c-hubs on the sledge as compared to the pillowball hubs on the kraton 6s, as well as the fixed turnbuckles on the sledge, especially if they're more durable. But it is nice to have the tuning options on the kraton as well as the LSD differentials which is neat.
It took me 5 months of purposeful attempts to break my typhon 6s. I broke an a arm from 30’ in the air. I have yet to break my kraton exb. I race and bash 4 days a week for 3 hour sessions. I’ve broke Traxxas rigs right out of the box. Not saying I don’t own a fleet of them. I have 11 Traxxas rigs but they do break often.
@@Sackmatters that’s cap
@@js5906 I have videos of it. I flexed the chassis so many times that my 4s has a permanent bend in it. I’m not arguing with someone who has a slash as their profile pic. My slash is the only Traxxas I have that doesn’t break every time I drive it.
@@Sackmatters we all have different experiences and the real issue is we dont acknowledge this. For example, my comparison story is....my hoss has yet to have any major breaks (only lower plastic shock cap part) and I sent in 20-30 times off big jumps. The amount of time (months/years) is really not something we can use as a metric as some people might drive their car 1 time in 6 months and another 30-50 times. That dude driving 1 time could break and have the worst exp, the other guy could break a few parts and be 100% extremely happy customer still.
Now, back to my hoss story (maybe 2 battery packs through it at the time)...It was stock. I also had a stock NIB notorious, took it to the same places to jump (1 battery pack into it)...bent the chassis, bent both shock towers, and bent both rear shocks and also the top shock mount screw for 1 front shock snapped in half. I still enjoy both trucks. So it's very hard to take 1 persons experience as "this is the example we will all experience"
@@patrickmccarthy3289 I agree. I just find that Traxxas rigs are bound to fail especially in the cold and 6 months out of the year I’m driving my trucks in the snow. Even my x maxx breaks quite often. I installed a brand new front diff with ring and pinion. The first pack out on 6s it blew the front diff I had just replaced. $75 down the drain in 10 minutes.
Awesome vid mark!
Funny my son is the same way ,I have like 20 trucks in my garage and he has no interest. It's a different time now I guess. I grew up in the 80s so it was bmx, skateboards and rc cars.
Love it man!! Your kids are hilarious!
All those years of dad getting you both into r c cars and that's all they had to say come on guys wow lol
love your likeable videos 👍
Awww man. Can’t believe there wasn’t a ‘*not a fart’ disclaimer. I’m not angry, Mark. Just disappointed ☹️😉 Just messing. You’re rapidly becoming my favourite channel. Keep em coming Mark 👍🏻
i got you covered in the next next one.... hahaha
Man i wish my hobbytown was that nice, the one we have here in Tallahassee fl they dont even like having rc cars in their store and hardly have any parts for traxxas or arrma.
My hobbytown is slowing dying. Not much rc selection but that could be because of the shipping situation now.
Maybe its just hobbytown in general. Ive been driving 2 hrs to florida rc outlet in Jacksonville and they have been great with everything
I’m just glad we have another shop here. Gs hobby. They have everything even an indoor off-road carpet track.
@@chrishampton555 that's awesome
Try Oktay Bumpers on the Kraton!
Every rc will break. All depending on weather , driver skill, and knowledge of what is a "safe" jump. Ofcourse you got maniacs launching rc,s to the moon.. leave that up to chance. Rolling the dice at that point. Great video. Maybe your kids will like rc s more now. 👍
Your right, like their trying to break it.
My Kraton 6s is a wheelie monster right out of the box
That’s cool they closed down are hobby town in Las Vegas 👍👍
Got to the exact same hobby shop
It's cool watching an RC tire blow. I blew one on an 8th scale Ofna touring car. It did 360's for ever.
It doesn't matter - if one says they prefer the sledge, it is like saying they prefer the kraton since it's a copy of the kraton's main design cues. If they they say they prefer the kraton, it becomes a slap to traxxas since they made a worse kraton.
So the consumer wins by having 2 companies trying to make products that are a little better then the other guy. Just means they will be trying to one up each other! I am totally ok with that.
Enjoy the week cool review
Are the sledgehammers heavier than the copperheads?
My son is broke too 😂
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Been waiting for this!
Cool comparison!
That's happened to me before when comparing two RC vehicles. One of them breaks a dumb part and the comparison is over quickly 🤣. Good stuff as usual man. Yeah, both trucks are nice. I don't have either and will not be buying anything else. Too many toys! Hehe. Meh Traxxas tires suck TBH.
My Kraton EXB is around $900 or so not including the large amounts of parts that have broken and been replaced. And I don’t do big jumps or flips or anything.
I think I’m getting the Sledge, I’m done with the cheap HOSIM junk. Great video! My 6 yo son and I love playing with our RC trucks.
First of all the smiles and laughter is what it's all about. And obviously both are fun if you have 2 not into that can't really make up their mind which is better. They just had fun. Kinda, ok they had fun breaking dads stuff. Lol Ask any child, ok which of the dinner plates was more fun to smash?? Equally but have a hard time with remembering the name of the othe brand. Lmbo!!! Thx
The one thing I do see wrong and I know you said this in a different way the price on the exb the msrp is right but the motor and esc and other electronics could be done way way cheaper for just the same or better preformance
I know how nerve wrecking that was for you Mark hahaha
Are you selling your pre-owned rc?1/8scale.tnx
Haha Evan didn’t have his crocs on 4x4 😂😭 for him not liking rc, dudes quick in the racing!!! 🔥
He probably just dont like bashing :D
@@P.Trick93 you're right! He doesn't like it as much as Ethan!!!!
Damn both of them boys are good drivers
How do kids not like rc cars
Pretty good kids, gotta say. Rad vid, I’m a new fan of the chan. I’d give one of my balls to have had a dad that was that into RC. Like that’s an automatic 50k dad points by default. Legendary
“Fixing my Kraton” is something I’ve gotten SO tired of saying 😂
Love driving it. But I keep a large stockpile of parts for it because it breaks. A lot. Again though, I live driving it. EXB with MAX6 1650kv combo. I’ve spent WAY too much time fixing it though.
I'm so sick of the whiny babies that defend one brand or the other. It's a toy! Yes I love them too, but holy cow! This is getting stupid. Just Like camaro vs mustang people. I think the same way Mark does, having the choice to have either is pretty cool. We should all be happy it isnt the fragile breaking cars from the 80's and super long charge times vs just a few minutes of run time.
Yea. Kraton and sledge is closest comparison . But if you buy both ready to run I’d rather buy the sledge , no one can argue Traxxas radio . Reciever and servo is better and don’t have to be changed right out the box like a armma. Every armma I have I’ve had to do this to . And I own 40 rc cars . Armma and Traxxas
What's "better," Pepsi or Coke?
Nice video cool cars great channel
Also The T-bone bumper is the best way better then exb bumper
Arrma Talion FTW