Syphon Filter 2 Retrospective
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ม.ค. 2024
- Syphon Filter 2 is back! It took a year to make, just like this video @_@ Let's explore the full game, including all the levels, boss battles, gadgets, music, gameplay, story, and how Syphon Filter 2 has aged, more than 20 years later. Inspired by josh strife plays was it good series and I Finished A Video Game, let's check out Syphon Filter 2! cough
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Correction: 35:50, is supposed to be Teresa, not Lian. I messed up the meme!
fun fact : The parachute sectiopn at the start of the game can be used to land ontop of the big rock you're team is huddled around where you can find a early weapon if my childhood memory serves correctly!!
You are correct! It actually might have been one of those you otherwise only get quite far down the line.
Yeah if you manage to get ontop of the rocks the H11's up there
I remember
H11!
I'm surprised he didn't figure that out
the real reason the parachute is in the game is that if you guide gabe quick enough to the ledge above the soldiers you can get the H11 from a box, its one of two H11's hidden in the first level, the other is in a cave beneath the waterfall where u meet chance for the first time, grabbing that one will unlock content for the multiplayer. the H11 is actually the H&K G11 in real life a prototype weapon that actually uses caseless ammunition and a complex internal system. it never entered full production due to the political changes of German reunification and lack of procurement contract. Only 1000 units were ever produced, some of which made their way into the hands of the Bundeswehr. Ultimately, the German armed forces replaced the G3 with the G36. in game it boasts one of the fastest firerates of any gun in the game alongside the G18.
I remember playing Ghost Recon 2 and playing around with all these crazy future games...that never really happened :(
Whenever I hear SF2 mentioned, the thing, or rather quote that instantly pops to mind is "GET THIS DOOR OPEN, NOW!"
Yeah, that level kind of left an impression.
Richard Ham is off his rocker... Maybe that's what it takes to make a masterpiece like Syphon Filter
I should've mentioned it, but he didn't come up with the premise he was talking about. It was made up by some producer I couldn't find the name of, before Garvin, Ross, and Ham joined.
They scrapped it but kept the name. And changed the game to be an action spy shooter. Then made some levels, and then Garvin had to write a script that justified the levels.
Dude, Teresa said, "that's bad." It wasn't Lian. Lian was sick and dying, fully incapacitated at this point in the plot.
After playing through the trilogy in 2023, Syphon Filter 2 is my favorite of the franchise. The 1st one had a few more open missions, but I enjoy a well done linear game.
Man I miss the Sony that made games like this. It's already been a decade since the last Killzone. More so for games like Syphon Filter, Socom US Navy Seals, Resistance, etc.
@@PItheoneeyedguyKillzone 2 is absolutely awesome. The most astounding war shooter I've ever played.
Dude same here!! PlayStation nowadays is not anywhere near the one we grew up with. Started to think I was alone
"Logan still has the exaggerated swagger of a super spy" - Top-tier allusion 😆
Lol. It's a spiderman miles morales review reference!
@@Tunuh I know! Allusion = non-direct or passing reference to something else.
@therayldeal6683 sry, I wasn't implying you didn't know. I was saying the implication out loud. I didn't know there was a specific word for it lol. Ik allude. Never heard allusion before. Makes sense.
3:12 - You can parachute on top of the rock where your guys are laying next to in order to start the mission with a full H11
this is how you win at it
'That's bad' lmaoooooooo
You do such a great job with these retrospectives. Your hard work shows and I appreciate you shining a light on this underappreciated franchise
This is the nicest comment I've gotten 🥺. Thanks! Lemme know if you ever have feedback or particularly like or dislike parts of a video. Working on SF3 atm.
Yes! I love this game! Great retrospective, now I can't wait for the SF3 retrospective
Thanks! I finished the game and am writing the script and editing now. It's a pretty big tonal shift because of some controversies and stuff about the game itself. I hope it's not too much of a downer, but I also want to be honest with my thoughts. It should be interesting either way, so I hope you'll let me know what you think once it's out!
There's a hidden rifle on a rock I the parachute section. I think it's the only one on the map
Lian is the GOAT, actually. She saves Logan's ass multiple times and goes out in the field even though she's sick from a biological weapon. Badass.
Great video.
By the way. Playing through SF2 again, I discovered something from the bridge section. First, disarm all the bombs without taking out all the guards. After disarming and you get spotted by guards, one will radio command saying to detonate the bridge. Command responses by saying they can’t.
It’s always cool to find little touches like that.
Taking the time to program and voice record that in is so cool.
There's so many of those moments too! Teresa has some fun lines if she gets to shoot Stevens at the end and when you get gregorov out of prison there's a hidden enemy on a cargo truck that you don't see unless you sneak past the wall 😄
Easily my favourite Syphon Filter, and in my top games of all time. Great level design, story, and soundtrack.
I prefer 1 because of the levels and nostalgia, but I get why people would prefer 2. What'd you time of 3?
@@Tunuh I felt three was good, but definitely the weakest of the main trilogy. Some of the levels were very forgettable, nowhere near as many high points as the previous games, but a lot more low points.
Bad and wrong? Badrong... or Badong... Yes The bad guys are Badong. Im glad Logan is the opposite... Gonahdab!
kung pow. funny movie
Revive Syphon filter! Sf2 one of the best games ever made.
I can remember my mum buying this for me in the shop GAME after playing that train level on the demo disc in playstation magazine. I played this before metal gear solid love it so much
Was GAME a UK-based chain?
35:54 - that was Teresa not Lian.
Excellent game. And excellent review/retrospective. This is one of my favourites. I played it recently and it's still awesome.
The Syphonfilter saga is the best from Eidetic/Bend Studio. Even the PSP games were awesome.
They worked on Resistance Retribution too, which is one of the best games from that saga (maybe the best one)
Another thing on the SF games that were revolutionary for the time is the ammount of diversity in the cast of main characters. You've got an american and a chinese woman as playable but you've also got Teresa (She's from native american ancestry i guess) and Lawrence Mujari (an african freedom fighter)
The games were made years before all those topics were on the front row.
Days gone was fine... I mean, it's not great, the story is meh and the characters were insufferable, but the core game it's fun. The game is really bad structured, since the best feature (the horde combat system) is relegated to the final parts of the game.
The departure of John Garvin from Bend Studio was... weird.
He's now in some kind of studio called Liithos which never released a game and launched some NFT bullshit... Red Flag.
I'd love to cover the Resistance series but no PS3 or easy way to play those games. You're right about the diverse cast. Every John Garvin interview I've seen, he'll usually mention it, but it really seems like it was unintentional. He grew up around a lot of different people, so I think it's just him writing what he knew. The game and marketing never called attention to anyone's race or gender. Lian Xing not being a damsel in distress is also something I really liked in this 2nd game. The game's story resolves around saving her, but you still play as her for half of it, and she fights until she literally can't anymore. Another writer would've made weak and someone to pity.
I didn't care for Days Gone, then I loved it, then I hated it lol. The story flubbed the landing so hard. You can tell the game was butchered during development and ran out of money. I was so tempted to make a video about it because I had strong feelings and so much to say, but I really want this channel to focus on Retro Sony games.
Yeah I saw that. I get the sense he doesn't really know what NFTs are. I hope so anyway. It seems dead anyway. Haven't heard anything since the "announcement". I think John Garvin would be best placed working in a small/medium sized team making a new IP. He's a self-admitted asshole if he's the boss, and like Kojima, I think he needs strong people around to tell him no and help steer his writing power where it should go, which is probably what Jeff Ross provided when they were together at Eidetic. Meanwhile Richard Ham just seems like the nicest, chillest dude ever lol. Every interview I've seen him in, he just seems like he's having so much fun. Now he's just doing his own thing with youtube and board games which seems wildly successful and popular. I hope they all get back into games eventually though. I'd be so curious to see what they want to make. I've been tempted to email those three to ask questions about Syphon Filter, but really I have no burning questions. They've all done pretty indepth interviews, sometimes multiple times. And I don't wanna bug them just to do a dumb video cameo.
Sf2 has always been one of my fav ps1 games! It has that gritty real world atmosphere and jamee bond level of actionhero vibes that go super well together.
I hope we get something from bend with the series again someday, either a reboot or a remake like the tomb raider games ^^
Syphon filter is my childhood. Love these games. Thanks for the retrospective.
I cant believe that my parents convinced me the game ended after the first disk. Didnt even know that the rest of the game exists.
Hahaha oh no. Did they lose the disc? They were trying to save you from disappointment I think.
10:23 no Snake will just backflip onto the active missile to get a clear shot on the helicopter and take it out like in Twin Snakes lol
Yaaaassssssssss
slay...slaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
9:45 The Military Police officer showing clemency to Lian is a narrative beat that shows the player that despite Lian and Gabe being on the lam from the US government, there are a lot of potentially deadly enemies gunning for them who should not be harmed. Its important to keep this in mind on the airbase, where most of the people you're sneaking past are MPs who are not involved in the Agency conspiracy and must be spared.
If one MP helps the player, it prejudices the player to show their friends mercy in subsequent levels.
Hey! Just want to say I am loving this retrospective, always happy to see Syphon Filter get its due. I want to flex a little bit and share that I've gotten Morgan with a hand taser. Took me hundreds of tries as a kid, but I did it. Also did it again recently as an adult lol. Excellent work.
Great video! Looking forward to the next one. Will you be doing more Resident Evil Outbreak videos?
Thanks! Yes actually. @ps2ordie and I just finished it. I'm unsure if I want to do the two games together, and make it a retrospective or what. I have a lot to say about it, but unsure how to format it.
Love your humor dude, especially the Kung Pow reference!
Love these games
Am I the only person who enjoys the occasional stealth level?
@3:15 You can land on top of that rock next to the NPCs. There is a crate up there iirc. Can't remember what's in it, weapon or flak jacket, I think.
Yes...great game.
Excellent commentary, bud. Looking forward to your video on #3
Appreciate it! I'm working hard on it. Gotta finish voice recording the last 15 mins, then edit it all together. I work full time and study when not at work, so it's tough to also work on TH-cam, but it's a lot of fun.
Any other games you wanna see?
Thanks for uploading this! Just found your channel and really dig your format. This game sure brings back memories.
Thanks! I really appreciate it. What other PS2 games are you nostalgic for?
@@Tunuh i’d say a big one for me is Hitman Contracts & Hitman Blood Money. Played those games for hours. And you already even covered both red factions!
This video needs more views man, This is such a great video! Keep up the great work!
I feel as if I just watched one of the best action movies that never existed!
Syphon Filter was THE game series that, as an 11-year-old - I was obsessed with! I loved the series - I even like the half-baked Omega Strain. Believe it or not, I was able to hack my PS2 back about a decade ago and emulate the online servers so I would play with people online to experience it all and get through the missions to unlock stuff. A lot of special moments were tied to this, and when 3 came out I'd expected the Multiplayer to be a lot better. Me and my brother were going to have our friends come over and we even scraped snacks together, got it first day and - it only supported two players! No bots either. We were expecting something like Perfect Dark or Golden Eye's MP. We did kill each other as old bag ladies though, that was something.
Syphon Filter is one of those series that I wish I played
If you have a Playstation 4 or 5, you can play the re-releases of Syphon Filter 1-3! They added widescreen support and trophies. It's free on PSN Premium too.
@Tunuh the first two are free. Third one isn't
Hoping to see more longform like this from you, your scripting and editing is so well done, tight and funny.
Love your admiration for Best Gen gems and oddities and the development/developer deep cuts in this video.
These are the best comments because they highlight what you like and what you're looking for more of. When I make videos, I don't get feedback on if this works or this joke lands or whatnot, so comments like this are super helpful. I appreciate it!
childhood favorite of mine, hahah cracked up at the SF as no one calls it
Does anyone call it SF? lol. I just didn't wanna keep using the full title while writing the script.
I love your content. Please continue :)
I appreciate it! So I better know what type of content to make, can you be more specific on why you like it? E.g. You like long and in-depth vids about retro games? You like comedy reviews? You like slower paced or faster paced vids? Etc.
@@Tunuh I like long retrospectives and shorts reviews . I'm here for PS2 content in general !
I love PS2 hidden gems guide too.
Do a retrospective on Syphon Filter 3 also, it's way different from SF 2 in alot of ways but adds a new type of storyline of some sort...
Oh, thought I'd also show my love for the best taser ever. Got to love it.
I loved this! Growing up I honestly didn't know anyone who played syphon filter 1-2 at all. So there I was, a wee lil laddy with these awesome games no one I knew, knew anything about and couldn't talk with me about them. Fast forward a couple decades and I find awesome TH-camrs like yourself and fans in the comments showing me a whole world I didn't know existed 🤣
I appreciate it! Any other series you'd like retrospectives for?
Yeah, pre-internet, we were all in our little bubbles. So games like this we'd just have to show our friends. I miss that discovery.
@@Tunuh I was always into stealth thanks to these games and metal gear but I was huge with survival horror so Silent Hill and Resident evil 1-3 were my edgy lil niche and can never get too perspectives on those imo, especially Silent Hill cuz they always hit people differently i find fascinating even more so if they played more than the second one lol
10:17 this is one of the times when I have laugh the loudest watching a youtube video. Thank you, sir.
lmao I forgot about that joke.
@@Tunuh top tier material. Liked and sub, by the way. Love your PS1 videos.
out of the syphon filter this one is my favorite. the music, the set pieces just reminds me of when i was in 3rd grade. i loved this game for the arcadey stealth action gameplay.
The music is so fuckin' good. Music and especially sound design, are often overlooked. I think people just don't notice them as much as graphics or story, but they're the lifeblood of entertainment. HellDivers2 is a great example.
15:42 WHAT!?!? I never knew you could hang off the side of the truck!!!
Being a damsel in distress wouldn't diminish her as a character.
Theresa that's bad
lol great review, very funny and entertaining
I appreciate it! Any other games on PSX/2 you're interested in seeing retrospectives for?
@@Tunuh Oh, for sure. There are a couple of games that I think are pretty underrated and don't get nearly enough attention.
- Brave Fencer Musahi (PSX)
- Silent Bomber
- Ehrgeiz
- Parasite Eve
- Fear Effect 1 (PSX)
Just to name a few ideas for you.
you can find a widescreen fix online to get the target cursor/fire effects. its a common issue on emulators for most ps1 games. or you can disable widescreen outright to fix it as well.
Something between bad wrong, badong. Killing is badong.
KUNG POW!
I have been called bad before. Many have said I do things that are not correct to do. I don't believe in talk such as this. I am nice man, with happy feelings. All of the time. First, a joke. What do you get when you cross an owl with a bungee cord?
@@Tunuh my ass niaaaaa
@@Tunuh …….. my ass! *betty laugh*
Fun fact: This takes place in the same universe as Days Gone, so logan failed his mission
There are a few Easter eggs, but I can't find anything definitive. I thought I remembered an interview or tweet where Garvin said it's not the same universe, just an Easter egg, but can't find it. I should ask him on Twitter. If you have any proof, I'd like to see it. I can't find much info either way.
Dodge roll, taser. Dodge roll taser.
imagine playing this game that ends on a cliffhanger and then not playing the 3rd game until 6 years later like i did.🤣🤣
You're talking to a Halo 2 vet! Lol (I actually didn't mind the cliffhanger cause I loved the MP so much).
SF2 and SF3 should have been released on PS2 because these games could have been further developed thanks to the console's capabilities. I don't know why the developers decided to release it only on PSX
It's simply: to cut costs and maintain the surreal (for today standards) low budget and 1 year development cicle
Maybe, but thank heavens they gave us this amazing Trilogy to enjoy in our Ps1
From what I remember in interviews, Sf3 was originally going to be released on PS2 and an online only game like omega strain, but Sony wanted them to make another single player game and they were likely stuck on a 3 game deal on PS1 still
tbh i realy liked SF3. didn't knew people didn't like that game back in the day. i played SF2 and it was awesome and played 3 and it felt as awesome as 2!
I think people liked 3, but not as much as 2. Especially since it came out when the PS2 was already out and it just seemed like more of the same.
I'm actually pretty harsh on it because I think it's not only more of the same, but worse in several ways. I'll talk about it in the upcoming vid tho. Which SF is your favorite?
@@Tunuh i remember most of the criticism is because the game became less stealth and more action, but nothing more than that.
killing is badong😂
is this emulation?? why is the aiming cursor to the left a bit??
Yes. 2D elements can sometimes be iffy in games.
@@Tunuh fair enough
I failed 9th grade and got my family banned from movie gallery over this game. All worth it 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I loved the first two games, and the third was even OK. The parachuting scene at the beginning of the first mission was, I think, just for the wow factor. Like you said it didn't really serve any purpose but I think they just did it because they could and because at the time it looked pretty cool
Agreed. 1 and 2 are goated. 3 is meh but a decent action game. Yeah, I feel like the first 2 games made you think "damn, the PSX can do this?"
Lol snake would one shot gabe x]
Your aim doesn't match the target. That triggers me so hard
Lol. It's due to the emulator. Widescreen can mess up 2D assets.
Diet metal gear solid
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metal gear solid?
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You're dead wrong if you really believe that.
Time for some blasphemy lol
SF2 is easily my least favourite PS1 SF game. It had too much stealth for me and I hated all headshot lock on making you have to roll around all over the place.
Do you have a twitter