On November 5, 1944, during the Battle of Manila Bay in World War 2, a Grumman TBF Avenger torpedo bomber of Torpedo Group VT-15 assigned to the aircraft carrier USS Essex (CV-9) came under heavy enemy 40 mm shell fire. The Grumman pilot, Lieutenant Robert Cosgrove, survived and managed to land the badly damaged aircraft on the carrier. The radio operator, Seaman Digby Denzek, also survived, and the Aviation Machinist Mate 2nd Class Loyce Edward Deen, was killed. The aircraft was so badly damaged that it was decided not to restore it. Loyce Deen was buried at sea in the aircraft in which he died. He is the only known US Navy sailor to be purposely buried with his plane. The order not to strip the plane for parts was an unusual tribute at the time, as aircraft parts were rare and in demand. Before burial, fingerprints were taken and dog tags were cut off, as per the protocol. Captain Carlos W. Wieber, commanding officer of the Essex, and his crew, as well as Rear Admiral Frederick C. Sherman, commander of Task Force 38.3, attended the funeral. The story of these events was depicted in the award-winning documentary series "Victory at Sea."
This was in the midst of a heated battled between the U.S. and Japan. The plane was so mangled that it was impossible to remove the body in a reasonable time manner and the plane could not be placed on a lower deck. So the decision was made to have a spur of the moment memorial and the plane released over the side. To be honset, I'd almost say being buried with your bird is a higher honor than without her.
25% of naval pilots in the Pacific campaign did not survive the war. War is tragedy and sacrifice. And their average age was 22. Not many buried in Arlington National Cemetery. Most lost at sea. RIP Heroes ❤❤
Whoever shot this film footage did an amazing job. Let’s remember this man and all the other service men and women in world war 2. My father in law served in the 442. Honor to you all
Loyce Deen was from our town, Altus, Oklahoma. There is a marker at his family plot in the cemetery. There is also a WWII memorial at the cemetery with his name and others that gave it all for us inscribed on it. Well respected area. I heard about Loyce Deen from my brother and decided to do some research and found the marker. Thanks Loyce.
This is touching. Do yourself a favor. Pause this at 2:57. The plane is sinking, most of the crew is departing the service to get back to their jobs on the ship. There’s a war to be fought after all. There is a lone sailor on the extreme left ran near the fan tail who lingers, standing at attention, watching the plane and his shipmate, sink into the sea. Its powerful. You wonder, was this his best friend on the ship? Is he the guy who helped him get ready for that last mission? Did they fly it together and he watched as his buddy was killed in action? The cost of war is high. It’s higher for some like this man. Still higher for the sailor who was killed.
''I cannot bend beside his grave; For he sleeps in a secret sea. And not one gentle whispering wave, Will tell the place to me. But though unseen by human eyes, And mortals know it not, His Father knoweth where he lies, And angels guard the spot.''
I am married to a Filipina, and I have been particularly horrified and angered by what Japanese soldiers did to Filipinos during the Japanese occupation of the Philippines. But both the perpetrators and the victims of those atrocities are long dead now. It is in the best interest of everyone concerned to forgive and allow the past to only be a source of lessons learned. All is forgiven, as far as I am concerned. Thank you for your kind words, my friend.
I was a fervent democrat in the late 70's and joined the navy. I came home on leave in 79 or 80 and went to a pizza place my high school buddy was managing. He set me up with a couple of slices and all the wine I could drink. A really pretty young girl sat down across form me, she was an employee there. She looked me square in the face and told me I represented everything she hated about our country. I was flabbergasted. A couple of other young kids came over, a girl and a guy, and they kind of agreed with her and I tried to defend myself. My buddy eventually saw what was happening and kind of told her off. It stuck with me and from that incident I questioned my roots as a democrat. I had a hard time voting that year and reluctantly pulled the lever for Reagan. I never looked back. Best decision I ever made. If i knew where that girl was now, I'd thank her.
@@gtc1961. First, I thank you for your service. Second. I’ll have to disagree with you on your latter part of your comment. Just because someone disagreed with you, doesn’t mean that person stood for everyone and everything that others may or may not believed. As far as that goes. Any political party has its part in corruption and malfeasance. We as People, we must choose the lesser evil one and hope that our choices are the correct one. Nobody could ever guarantee any political party is an absolute best. This is where our brain and eyes come in to its best functionality. We have to look and search for what each political party has and is doing for the majority mass of the country and people. We cannot based our judgement just from some woman or kids that disagreed and lumps everyone and everything into that ill-belief view. As for which party currently to be considered lesser of the evil? I’ll have to say Republican.
@@yf222000 Look...I lived through Vietnam, conservatives never burned flags, never spit on returning soldiers, they were always the ones to hang a flag out every day, I can't tell you how many countless arguments I get into with democrats on why this country isn't the Satan they claim it to be and why we aren't the cause of every bad thing in the world. I'm not stupid and I don't have my head buried in the ground democrats HATE this country the way it is and want to fundamentally change it into something it was never intended to be. Obama said that many, many times...did you think he was kidding???? Every country has problems, but to FUNDEMNTALLY change it? It's like buying a preowned hose and seeing some nail pops in the sheet rick....so you tear the entire house down. Another thing...I served with a LOT of guys...a LOT... There wasn't ONE liberal in the batch, not a single one.
There is a small country right now fighting like hell to preserve a democracy. How many people over there have made this same sacrifice for the same reason?
One of the most respectful acts of honouring a fallen comrade I’ve ever seen. God Rest his Soul. My father was a RAF pilot during WW2. Its a miracle he survived to lead a long life. Many of his friends did not. These men, like all men and women who serve their country in the fight for freedom, shall always be remembered.
They didn't. That's why the 50's HAD to be perfect. Two kids, dog and picket fence. The wives were on prescribed downers, the husband's usually had anger management issues. It was as far from normal as possible.
@@Yeetin_Boomer_Actual Absolutely correct. It disgusts me to no end when people try to portray the 50's as some idyllic period where America was at it's best and all good things laid ahead. That generation was suffering horribly while trying to keep it all together. The toll on my family was great and of my dad's brothers who fought in WWII, two of them drank themselves to death, and another two were stark raving loons to the kids. That war went on until their deaths. The protests of the Vietnam war were largely from the kids who saw what war did to their fathers, and they wanted no part of it.
@@Yeetin_Boomer_Actual I am well aware of the societal struggle faced by returning veterans as well as the rampant alcoholism. You are correct in describing how the societal norms of the 50’s were very much an attempt to create a hyper structured ‘normal’ for those who suffered during the war years. I have long wondered as to whether the cultural norms of the 50’s contributed to the iconoclastic response of the 60’s.
As the son of a combat Veteran I can tell you they fake it well i picked up we were soldiers and saving pvt. Ryan. Let's just say the trauma it brought up scared me to death and the theory of pull yourself up by the bootstraps stupid
Different people effected in different ways. Everyone who fought and killed was effected in some way. Almost none of them ever got completely over it. I knew a man who went through DDay and the Battle of France. He was the driver for a General who liked to scout close to the front lines. One day the driver was too ill to drive that day so a replacement was found for him. The jeep didn't come back that day. He could never shake the idea that if he had not been sick the general would have lived. Outwardly he lived a normal life but he was always torn up inside. My dad joined the army while underage. He was scheduled to hit the beach in mainland Japan. The casualty rates were estimated at 80% where he was assigned to land. I'll always be grateful to the people who built the atomic bombs and to the men who decided to use them.
I am a Scot born in 1954, i never knew what the war was like at the time.... this film brought a lump to my throat... a very moving image, which showed the respect that we all had at one time. You guys who went through that hell...HAVE MY DEEP RESPECT .... for all those brave souls, who gave their all to give us older ones a life to enjoy. I know a lot of you guys would do it all again, as i would now at 70...i despise anyone who disrespects their homeland. Keep the faith, keep America American... and kick the shit out of any who try to change it.
We don’t have internal enemies, we have dummies who have more in common with ww2 Japan than with those who fell in the struggle against it, its called maga
Indeed. Many free nations do and we must all guard against the dangers. Let us fervently hope that The Orange Clown does not succeed in his quest for mayhem. 🙏
My late dad (born 10/1924) served in the US Naval Air early 1943 - 12/1945. He was with a squadron of Martin Mariner “flying boats” in the South Pacific & South China Sea. These planes had 9- man crews, performing reconnaissance, radar jamming, search & sea rescue, and submarine hunting. His squadron was part of the Liberation of The Philippines (10/1944 - 8/1945). This included the Battles of Leyte Gulf (the largest naval battle in history), Mindoro, and Luzon. He was awarded the Purple Heart, and lived the rest of his life (to age 86) with shrapnel from a Japanese fighter plane imbedded in his skull. He lived a good and hardworking life, was a devoted family man and extremely religious. He was extremely patriotic and proud of his service. But clearly he had been profoundly affected for the rest of his life by his experience. It was 60 years before he got on a plane again. He spoke often of his extensive Naval training (aerial gunnery at Corpus Christi; radio & radar training at both Wright Jr College, Chicago and Texas A& M; and classified training in radar jamming at San Clementine Island, CA) and activities while on leave, but very little about times during action. He occasionally spoke about the various atrocities committed by the Japanese. He expressed Survivor’s Remorse a few days before he passed. Like most of his fellow WW2 service members, he did not consider himself special. They simply did what they had to do for the preservation of the USA for their families back home. I doubt there will ever be another US generation as dedicated and self-sacrificing as that Greatest Generation.
@@のりなが-y7vYou are entitled to your opinion, but you must have heard of Pearl Harbor and the Bataan Death March. Also, I’m sure any Chinese person would agree with me. Peace.
@@AwesomeAngryBiker Not bragging. Simply informing about a lesser known aspect of Naval Air, and honoring a good man, his mates and his generation on the 100th anniversary of his birth. God Bless America 🇺🇸
Americans were the good guys and the Japanese the evil? You threw 2 atomic bombs on elderly people, women and children in Nagasaki and Hiroshima. That’s evil too.
This poor guy must’ve have had some gruesome injuries for the decision to be made not to get him out, but to bury him in his airplane at sea. Thanks for you sacrifice and service, sir. RIP
Yes. An AA shell (possibly more than one) passed through the plane and Deen was decapitated. His head and parts of his upper torso were blown off. The decision was quickly made to bury him at sea rather than remove his mangled body from the aircraft. Rest in peace.
@@NealB123 Yes, that is true. My Uncle was on that ship when this happened. He said it was horrendous and the decision was made to bury him at sea in his plane. May he forever rest in peace.
I hope we're still sensitive enough to grieve a fallen defender: "We therefore commit his body to the deep, ... in sure and certain hope of the resurrection of the body, when the Sea shall give up her dead."
Excellent presentation. Chilling when the aircraft falls, lies inverted in the water. The crowd begins to disperse. One man on the far right continues to watch.
2:35 Wow. Just wow. What a moment caught on camera. Every sailor still as a statue, probably all quiet on deck for a moment of silence with just TAPS playing. Wow. Deepest respect for these men. Absolute Giants
Having decided in my teenage years to not serve in the military does not change the fact that I have the deepest admiration and reverence towards those from the 1776 until today and beyond. I do my best to contribute to wounded warriors and I pray we can do a better job of helping those who were willing to give everything. Bless you all who have (and still do) served
Oh, be quiet and troll somewhere else!! We, most of us, are here to pay our respects to Fallen Heroes. Maybe pick up a bit more knowledge of our history and you want to make derogatory remarks about our government? In this place? Go find yourself a loud, obnoxious political channel and start as much sh!t as you wish. Just don't do it here.
I agree. The world laughed through four years of Trump and they're still laughing. It's deeply embarrassing. No honor, no character, no empathy. God, help us to recover from this nightmare.
@@smokeykitty6023 Boy do you have that wrong. Trump = secure border, food/gas affordable, energy independent, thousands of children caught in sex trafficking rescued (which Biden cancelled on day 1), lowest unemployment of people of color since the great depression, first president ever to start talks with North Korea, etc. So many more I could put. What has Biden done but destroy the economy and Harris would literally be the first prostitute in the White House. What has she done besides be catastrophically terrible at interviews?
My mothers cousin was a rear gunner on a dive bomber. They said his plane ditched close to the carrier after the mission and they rescued the pilot but the gunner was already dead, they left him go. I believe his name was Marion Wilcox
A couple of times I didn't think I would make it back. Aviation, particularly Naval Aviation can be terribly unforgiving. God bless his brave soul. USN Aviator, retired.
NOT an aviator. The Aviation Machinist Mate - aircrew/machine gunner. We enlisted aircrew are proud of our rates and our work. From a retired Aviation Structural Mechanic / Flight Mech.
Heh. Reminds me of how a civilian news will show a locomotive smashing a M109 stuck on the tracks .. and they call it a tank ... and all the tankers quickly point out that .. "Ain't so!"
Semantics. Sounds like you have a chip on your shoulder. Aviator means more than just a military pilot. The man was in the Navy and flying. Figure it out.
@@dcpack Aviator is defined in various online dictionary as a pilot. Send the names of aviator include airman Birdman flier flyer pilot copilot test pilot fly boy ace caper bush pilot barnstormer and captain. Look it up if you don’t believe me
@@michaeltaylor8835 He's NOT an aviator, I was an enlisted photographer in the navy, and in an aviation rating, but I was never designated as an aviator.
When I was a little boy, my mother and father brought me to New York to see this Aircraft Carrier. Years later, I discovered that my favorite teacher from Northport High School (Dr Richard Streb) Served on board and wrote a book about this military ship. He was a very popular social studies teacher. I became a social studies teacher. My son became a social studies teacher. He influenced so many people. I’m so grateful that there were people like this that were in my life. Thank you mom and dad. Thank you Dr Streb For the effective leadership. May you all rest and peace.
It's what you do. No time to spend wishing it were different, and no amount of wishing it were different will make any difference. War doesn't stop for the fallen.
That was so moving. I’m in tears. How awful for his colleagues to have to do that. You could see how affected they were standing on the deck in the service for this man. God they must have seen some horrible sights. No wonder they never talked about their time in the war. There is one man who stands towards the left at the end of the deck and watches until the plane totally sinks. I can’t help but think he must have been a friend. His sadness at watching that is almost palpable.
Very moving. My dad was also in the USN, AMM 2nd Class, like Mr. Deen, flew in PBY crews, VP 205. Was stationed in Okinawa when the war ended. He was always grateful that President Truman dropped the bombs that gave reason for Japan to finally surrender.
I'm certain that the honorable patriot that made the ultimate sacrifice on our behalf would wholeheartedly agree with his laying to rest in his beloved aircraft. Unorthodox, yes, but truly unique and highly honorable. May he rest in eternal peace and I sincerely hope his family were able to hold their heads high with pride at his act of valor and may we never forget him and cherish his memory forever.🇺🇸
May he rest eternally, as a young child of the late 50's I recall sadly too often seeing dad quietly sitting in front of the TV silently tearing having never making a sound. It was while watching Victory at Sea. Dad was a Marine who was onle of the lucky ones to return. May the souls of every US and allied servicemembers be patrolling gods oceans and guarding the halls of his mansions
Tenente Loyce Edward Deen, artilheiro, atingido no ataque aos Japoneses, na Indonésia. Assim como muitos Heróis Norte Americanos, ofereceu sua vida lutando pela paz do mundo, contra a ditadura nazista/japonesa. Deus os abençoe. Deus abençoe os EUA.
I saw a lot of comments on here about Deen and what his rating was. The description uses small letters " naval aviator" , Naval Aviator with caps is a rating given to those awarded Navy pilot wings due to having qualified through training. Those pointing out that his rating was Aviation Machinist Mate 2nd Class are honoring him as such. Deen himself would no doubt have said forcefully "I am an AM and proud of it and a gunner to boot!"
I met a WW2 Naval Aviator that disregarded a wave off and hit and killed the gunner on the plane he ran into. I have pictures of the burial at sea. He was man enough to own it. Heat of battle decisions are often life or death.
A 40mm shell would have made most of the brave warrior's body unrecognizable. Apparently there was no head remaining. Fortunately a hand could be found, so fingerprints could be taken. Those, along with the dog tags they found, enabled the unfortunate warrior to be identified & relatives to be informed. RIP
@@crazygame2724 Do not make comments on subjects you clearly know nothing about And tarnish the navy's reasons for doing what needed to be done. #1 rigor does not take effect for about 2 hours after death starting with the muscles in the face Then progresses to the limbs over the next few hours And 6 to 8 for full body #2 The Japanese heavy cruiser Nachi was the target of this mission. Held in Manila bay. While the USS Essex was 157miles away While the TBF has a max speed of 275mph It is safe to say They were at cruise And climbing speed to the target. However the death happen at the location over Manila bay Returning would of taken no more than a hour. #3 The reason the forces do fingerprint identification is When dogtags are no longer on the body Or damaged And when a persons face is no longer visible to men that could ID him as that person, The 40mm round had pushed metal into the body cavity This man had no identifiable remains in order to extract the man They would have to cut the plane up And remove framing out of the man Flight deck operations Seen this as a waste As the man could not be sent back home And the plane would not be recoverable
Thank you for this story. On a side note that is unrelated to the story but related more to the editing of the video. What happened to the sound through the video? There seems to be a portion where the soundtrack seemed to be tripping over itself. Like it was doubled up badly.
On November 5, 1944, during the Battle of Manila Bay in World War 2, a Grumman TBF Avenger torpedo bomber of Torpedo Group VT-15 assigned to the aircraft carrier USS Essex (CV-9) came under heavy enemy 40 mm shell fire. The Grumman pilot, Lieutenant Robert Cosgrove, survived and managed to land the badly damaged aircraft on the carrier. The radio operator, Seaman Digby Denzek, also survived, and the Aviation Machinist Mate 2nd Class Loyce Edward Deen, was killed.
The aircraft was so badly damaged that it was decided not to restore it.
Loyce Deen was buried at sea in the aircraft in which he died. He is the only known US Navy sailor to be purposely buried with his plane.
The order not to strip the plane for parts was an unusual tribute at the time, as aircraft parts were rare and in demand. Before burial, fingerprints were taken and dog tags were cut off, as per the protocol.
Captain Carlos W. Wieber, commanding officer of the Essex, and his crew, as well as Rear Admiral Frederick C. Sherman, commander of Task Force 38.3, attended the funeral.
The story of these events was depicted in the award-winning documentary series "Victory at Sea."
A stunning tribute to this Naval aviator who died heroically at his battle station; May GOD rest his soul.
Wow
@@Horsepower-717 Thank you for explaining. South Africa 🇿🇦
Stunning 🇨🇦
Can I ask why they didn't remove him from the plane for a standard burial at sea?
This was in the midst of a heated battled between the U.S. and Japan. The plane was so mangled that it was impossible to remove the body in a reasonable time manner and the plane could not be placed on a lower deck. So the decision was made to have a spur of the moment memorial and the plane released over the side. To be honset, I'd almost say being buried with your bird is a higher honor than without her.
Looked like it was some type of collision, probably from a wheel under a Zero, bless his heart,
@@BillBitchin it was hit by enemy fire. That sailor lost his head in the attack.
That guy suffered a direct hit with a 40mm AA shell which contained 71grams of HE.
He was in pieces.
RIP.
25% of naval pilots in the Pacific campaign did not survive the war. War is tragedy and sacrifice. And their average age was 22. Not many buried in Arlington National Cemetery. Most lost at sea. RIP Heroes ❤❤
As touching a scene as you will find.
Whoever shot this film footage did an amazing job. Let’s remember this man and all the other service men and women in world war 2. My father in law served in the 442. Honor to you all
DC ............superbly covered and edited , done with deep respect and honor .
Loyce Deen was from our town, Altus, Oklahoma. There is a marker at his family plot in the cemetery. There is also a WWII memorial at the cemetery with his name and others that gave it all for us inscribed on it. Well respected area. I heard about Loyce Deen from my brother and decided to do some research and found the marker. Thanks Loyce.
I graduated Altus high class of 77
Thanks...
I’m originally from Blair but never knew this story. Now I want to go see this the next time I’m over that way.
I just read about him, what an extraordinary man. He was a very caring man and did a lot in his short life time.
May he rest in peace.
This is touching. Do yourself a favor. Pause this at 2:57. The plane is sinking, most of the crew is departing the service to get back to their jobs on the ship. There’s a war to be fought after all. There is a lone sailor on the extreme left ran near the fan tail who lingers, standing at attention, watching the plane and his shipmate, sink into the sea. Its powerful. You wonder, was this his best friend on the ship? Is he the guy who helped him get ready for that last mission? Did they fly it together and he watched as his buddy was killed in action? The cost of war is high. It’s higher for some like this man. Still higher for the sailor who was killed.
I saw the loan sailor standing there as well.
I can only surmise that it is his best friend and shipmate.
"I cannot bend over his grave,
For he lies in a secret sea.
And not one gentle whispered wave
Can tell that place to me."
Robert Pickeriing's poem 1869
A Sailors Epitaph
WOW, beautiful,thanks.
I've heard it different. Just replace Can with Will. Still makes me cry.
''I cannot bend beside his grave;
For he sleeps in a secret sea.
And not one gentle whispering wave,
Will tell the place to me.
But though unseen by human eyes,
And mortals know it not,
His Father knoweth where he lies,
And angels guard the spot.''
@@andyphillips7435Thank you
私は日本人です。
先祖がフィリピン戦線に陸軍兵として従軍していました。
こんな出来事があったとは感慨深いです。
なくなった後部機銃手のご冥福を祈ります。
Thank you kind brother.
Thanks from a U.S. marine.
I am married to a Filipina, and I have been particularly horrified and angered by what Japanese soldiers did to Filipinos during the Japanese occupation of the Philippines. But both the perpetrators and the victims of those atrocities are long dead now. It is in the best interest of everyone concerned to forgive and allow the past to only be a source of lessons learned. All is forgiven, as far as I am concerned. Thank you for your kind words, my friend.
彼の家族もあなたの気持ちに感謝してくれると確信しています。
Thank you.
This made a grown ass man cried. 😢. Also the reason why I despise anyone who disrespected our military servicemen and women.
I was a fervent democrat in the late 70's and joined the navy. I came home on leave in 79 or 80 and went to a pizza place my high school buddy was managing. He set me up with a couple of slices and all the wine I could drink. A really pretty young girl sat down across form me, she was an employee there. She looked me square in the face and told me I represented everything she hated about our country. I was flabbergasted. A couple of other young kids came over, a girl and a guy, and they kind of agreed with her and I tried to defend myself. My buddy eventually saw what was happening and kind of told her off. It stuck with me and from that incident I questioned my roots as a democrat. I had a hard time voting that year and reluctantly pulled the lever for Reagan. I never looked back. Best decision I ever made. If i knew where that girl was now, I'd thank her.
@@gtc1961 2 1/2 combat tours as a LRRP from 66 - 69. You're about to make your next big mistake.
@@gtc1961. First, I thank you for your service. Second. I’ll have to disagree with you on your latter part of your comment. Just because someone disagreed with you, doesn’t mean that person stood for everyone and everything that others may or may not believed. As far as that goes. Any political party has its part in corruption and malfeasance. We as People, we must choose the lesser evil one and hope that our choices are the correct one. Nobody could ever guarantee any political party is an absolute best. This is where our brain and eyes come in to its best functionality. We have to look and search for what each political party has and is doing for the majority mass of the country and people. We cannot based our judgement just from some woman or kids that disagreed and lumps everyone and everything into that ill-belief view. As for which party currently to be considered lesser of the evil? I’ll have to say Republican.
@@thomasbeatty9496. Thank you for your service.
@@yf222000 Look...I lived through Vietnam, conservatives never burned flags, never spit on returning soldiers, they were always the ones to hang a flag out every day, I can't tell you how many countless arguments I get into with democrats on why this country isn't the Satan they claim it to be and why we aren't the cause of every bad thing in the world. I'm not stupid and I don't have my head buried in the ground democrats HATE this country the way it is and want to fundamentally change it into something it was never intended to be. Obama said that many, many times...did you think he was kidding???? Every country has problems, but to FUNDEMNTALLY change it? It's like buying a preowned hose and seeing some nail pops in the sheet rick....so you tear the entire house down. Another thing...I served with a LOT of guys...a LOT... There wasn't ONE liberal in the batch, not a single one.
And to think where society is now, we sure have lost our way. The greatest generation to ever have lived and died. Respect
because of Marxism
How right you are.
amen
Why can we not peacefully disagree with one another. It is embarrassing.
There is a small country right now fighting like hell to preserve a democracy. How many people over there have made this same sacrifice for the same reason?
When a generation had great respect to it's fellow fallen shipmates. God rest his soul.
The entire crew’s somber demeanor really got to me.
One of the most respectful acts of honouring a fallen comrade I’ve ever seen. God Rest his Soul.
My father was a RAF pilot during WW2. Its a miracle he survived to lead a long life. Many of his friends did not. These men, like all men and women who serve their country in the fight for freedom, shall always be remembered.
Someone`s brother, someone`s father, someone`s son, someone`s friend.....
The fact that any of these men found it possible to lead ‘normal’ lives in the post-war era is a miracle.
They didn't. That's why the 50's HAD to be perfect. Two kids, dog and picket fence. The wives were on prescribed downers, the husband's usually had anger management issues. It was as far from normal as possible.
@@Yeetin_Boomer_Actual Absolutely correct. It disgusts me to no end when people try to portray the 50's as some idyllic period where America was at it's best and all good things laid ahead. That generation was suffering horribly while trying to keep it all together. The toll on my family was great and of my dad's brothers who fought in WWII, two of them drank themselves to death, and another two were stark raving loons to the kids. That war went on until their deaths. The protests of the Vietnam war were largely from the kids who saw what war did to their fathers, and they wanted no part of it.
@@Yeetin_Boomer_Actual I am well aware of the societal struggle faced by returning veterans as well as the rampant alcoholism. You are correct in describing how the societal norms of the 50’s were very much an attempt to create a hyper structured ‘normal’ for those who suffered during the war years. I have long wondered as to whether the cultural norms of the 50’s contributed to the iconoclastic response of the 60’s.
As the son of a combat Veteran I can tell you they fake it well i picked up we were soldiers and saving pvt. Ryan. Let's just say the trauma it brought up scared me to death and the theory of pull yourself up by the bootstraps stupid
Different people effected in different ways. Everyone who fought and killed was effected in some way. Almost none of them ever got completely over it. I knew a man who went through DDay and the Battle of France. He was the driver for a General who liked to scout close to the front lines. One day the driver was too ill to drive that day so a replacement was found for him. The jeep didn't come back that day. He could never shake the idea that if he had not been sick the general would have lived. Outwardly he lived a normal life but he was always torn up inside.
My dad joined the army while underage. He was scheduled to hit the beach in mainland Japan. The casualty rates were estimated at 80% where he was assigned to land. I'll always be grateful to the people who built the atomic bombs and to the men who decided to use them.
I am a Scot born in 1954, i never knew what the war was like at the time.... this film brought a lump to my throat... a very moving image, which showed the respect that we all had at one time. You guys who went through that hell...HAVE MY DEEP RESPECT .... for all those brave souls, who gave their all to give us older ones a life to enjoy. I know a lot of you guys would do it all again, as i would now at 70...i despise anyone who disrespects their homeland. Keep the faith, keep America American... and kick the shit out of any who try to change it.
We are trying, sir. We have internal enemies.
We don’t have internal enemies, we have dummies who have more in common with ww2 Japan than with those who fell in the struggle against it, its called maga
Indeed.
Many free nations do and we must all guard against the dangers.
Let us fervently hope that The Orange Clown does not succeed in his quest for mayhem. 🙏
My late dad (born 10/1924) served in the US Naval Air early 1943 - 12/1945. He was with a squadron of Martin Mariner “flying boats” in the South Pacific & South China Sea. These planes had 9- man crews, performing reconnaissance, radar jamming, search & sea rescue, and submarine hunting. His squadron was part of the Liberation of The Philippines (10/1944 - 8/1945). This included the Battles of Leyte Gulf (the largest naval battle in history), Mindoro, and Luzon. He was awarded the Purple Heart, and lived the rest of his life (to age 86) with shrapnel from a Japanese fighter plane imbedded in his skull. He lived a good and hardworking life, was a devoted family man and extremely religious. He was extremely patriotic and proud of his service. But clearly he had been profoundly affected for the rest of his life by his experience. It was 60 years before he got on a plane again. He spoke often of his extensive Naval training (aerial gunnery at Corpus Christi; radio & radar training at both Wright Jr College, Chicago and Texas A& M; and classified training in radar jamming at San Clementine Island, CA) and activities while on leave, but very little about times during action. He occasionally spoke about the various atrocities committed by the Japanese. He expressed Survivor’s Remorse a few days before he passed.
Like most of his fellow WW2 service members, he did not consider himself special. They simply did what they had to do for the preservation of the USA for their families back home. I doubt there will ever be another US generation as dedicated and self-sacrificing as that Greatest Generation.
桁違いの残虐行為をしたのはお前らだろう。
@@のりなが-y7vYou are entitled to your opinion, but you must have heard of Pearl Harbor and the Bataan Death March. Also, I’m sure any Chinese person would agree with me. Peace.
@@のりなが-y7v You are terribly misinformed.
Stop bragging 🙄🙄
@@AwesomeAngryBiker Not bragging. Simply informing about a lesser known aspect of Naval Air, and honoring a good man, his mates and his generation on the 100th anniversary of his birth.
God Bless America 🇺🇸
I hope these videos on YT can help keep the memory of those that gave their lives in the fight to defeat the evil of yesterday.
The only “evil” at work here was the traitors who lied to these men and sent them to their deaths to make the world safe for Communism.
Americans were the good guys and the Japanese the evil? You threw 2 atomic bombs on elderly people, women and children in Nagasaki and Hiroshima. That’s evil too.
They weren't called the greatest generation for nothing.
I wish that American citizens in 2024 even knew about the massive sacrifices that were made. We are so ignorant.
@@smokeykitty6023 sacrifices for nothing.
This poor guy must’ve have had some gruesome injuries for the decision to be made not to get him out, but to bury him in his airplane at sea. Thanks for you sacrifice and service, sir. RIP
Yes. An AA shell (possibly more than one) passed through the plane and Deen was decapitated. His head and parts of his upper torso were blown off. The decision was quickly made to bury him at sea rather than remove his mangled body from the aircraft. Rest in peace.
I am sure the body received many wounds. I believe they thought the body may have had issues with coming out in one piece.
@@NealB123 Yes, that is true. My Uncle was on that ship when this happened. He said it was horrendous and the decision was made to bury him at sea in his plane. May he forever rest in peace.
o7
I hope we're still sensitive enough to grieve a fallen defender: "We therefore commit his body to the deep, ... in sure and certain hope of the resurrection of the body, when the Sea shall give up her dead."
Amén 🙏🏼
Excellent presentation. Chilling when the aircraft falls, lies inverted in the water. The crowd begins to disperse. One man on the far right continues to watch.
When I watch this it makes me want to cry. I definitely tear up. No doubt, the Greatest Generation. God blessed him, I’m sure.
The Greatest Generation . End of Story!
Those patriots that defeated the British Empire and the Confederates preserved a nation for the WWII generation.
Save the fact they raised the baby boomers.....
Navy Vet here. Hand Salute, sailor. Two!
2:35
Wow. Just wow. What a moment caught on camera. Every sailor still as a statue, probably all quiet on deck for a moment of silence with just TAPS playing. Wow. Deepest respect for these men. Absolute Giants
Having decided in my teenage years to not serve in the military does not change the fact that I have the deepest admiration and reverence towards those from the 1776 until today and beyond. I do my best to contribute to wounded warriors and I pray we can do a better job of helping those who were willing to give everything. Bless you all who have (and still do) served
R.I.P. PO2 Dean⚓️✈️!!! Thankya for your service & sacrifice to this counntry🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲!
Notice how they aren't given each other hugs and pats on the back. Personal space in those days.
The Captain gave a shipwide announcement that anyone who personally knew Loyce was relieved of duty and ordered to the deck for the funeral
Compare this group of heroes with the laughingstock that our country has become today.
because of the growth of Marxism
Speak for yourself !
Oh, be quiet and troll somewhere else!! We, most of us, are here to pay our respects to Fallen Heroes. Maybe pick up a bit more knowledge of our history and you want to make derogatory remarks about our government? In this place?
Go find yourself a loud, obnoxious political channel and start as much sh!t as you wish. Just don't do it here.
I agree. The world laughed through four years of Trump and they're still laughing. It's deeply embarrassing. No honor, no character, no empathy. God, help us to recover from this nightmare.
@@smokeykitty6023 Boy do you have that wrong. Trump = secure border, food/gas affordable, energy independent, thousands of children caught in sex trafficking rescued (which Biden cancelled on day 1), lowest unemployment of people of color since the great depression, first president ever to start talks with North Korea, etc. So many more I could put. What has Biden done but destroy the economy and Harris would literally be the first prostitute in the White House. What has she done besides be catastrophically terrible at interviews?
What I find so amazing is the fact that these brave souls were so young. We owe them so much.
As Churchill said of the Battle of Britain, "Never have so many owed so much to so few".
My mothers cousin was a rear gunner on a dive bomber. They said his plane ditched close to the carrier after the mission and they rescued the pilot but the gunner was already dead, they left him go. I believe his name was Marion Wilcox
I'm ex Brit squaddie, I'm shedding tears, The Honour shown to their Comrade, that day, they Shall be remembered,
A couple of times I didn't think I would make it back. Aviation, particularly Naval Aviation can be terribly unforgiving. God bless his brave soul. USN Aviator, retired.
Amazing story! I had never heard this before. Thanks for sharing. Thanks to all who served
That was a Hospital Corpsman who took his prints and tags always grim work for the Docs
Wow! This is a very sobering video to watch. RIP Mr Deen.
Never ,ever forget..! We are close to this today..
FLY HIGH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. RIP. 🙏
NOT an aviator. The Aviation Machinist Mate - aircrew/machine gunner. We enlisted aircrew are proud of our rates and our work. From a retired Aviation Structural Mechanic / Flight Mech.
Heh. Reminds me of how a civilian news will show a locomotive smashing a M109 stuck on the tracks .. and they call it a tank ... and all the tankers quickly point out that .. "Ain't so!"
Semantics. Sounds like you have a chip on your shoulder. Aviator means more than just a military pilot. The man was in the Navy and flying. Figure it out.
He flew he's an aviator
@@dcpack Aviator is defined in various online dictionary as a pilot. Send the names of aviator include airman Birdman flier flyer pilot copilot test pilot fly boy ace caper bush pilot barnstormer and captain. Look it up if you don’t believe me
@@michaeltaylor8835 He's NOT an aviator, I was an enlisted photographer in the navy, and in an aviation rating, but I was never designated as an aviator.
With God and his family now,no more pain , no more sorrow...God speed...❤
When I was a little boy, my mother and father brought me to New York to see this Aircraft Carrier.
Years later, I discovered that my favorite teacher from Northport High School (Dr Richard Streb)
Served on board and wrote a book about this military ship. He was a very popular social studies teacher.
I became a social studies teacher. My son became a social studies teacher. He influenced so many people.
I’m so grateful that there were people like this that were in my life.
Thank you mom and dad. Thank you Dr Streb For the effective leadership. May you all rest and peace.
Its a miracle the pilot made it back
There is also a video on YT of a Japanese Kamikaze pilot being given burial honors after he crashed his plane on to a US Navy ship.
Those men could do that for an enemy soldier and yet we can't civilly disagree without name calling and degradation.
The Missouri.
So sad, but beautiful.
It was in fact the USS Essex. Look up Lloyce Edward Deen.
The Greatest Generation will never be forgotten.
A moment of silence, then they went back to work in the business of war
It's what you do. No time to spend wishing it were different, and no amount of wishing it were different will make any difference. War doesn't stop for the fallen.
Today's Americans could never appreciate something this honorable.
sadly I agree
@ronpennington7508 👍
WOW , my dad was a Naval Commander Atlantic and Med never talked about the war except with men he served with.
That's common with combat vets. They seldom talk about what they had to do. And when they do you can often see the pain in their words.
This is so emotional.
Rest in Peace sailor . Thank You.
RIP ❤🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
RIP. And to all the men and women who made the ultimate sacrifice, we thank you
Imagine the PTSD of the men who pushed that plane overboard...... 😔
My dad flew those, that is the rear gunner that is being interred.
The radio guy was the gunner as well. 3 crew members.
May his god be with him.😢✌️👋🇬🇧
If there is a God, it will be One!
Un héroe caído en combate y el homenaje de un gran Capitán. Gloria a los héroes que combatieron por la libertad 🗽. Dios bendiga a los Estados Unidos.
Amazing. 80 years ago today.
That was so moving. I’m in tears. How awful for his colleagues to have to do that. You could see how affected they were standing on the deck in the service for this man. God they must have seen some horrible sights. No wonder they never talked about their time in the war. There is one man who stands towards the left at the end of the deck and watches until the plane totally sinks. I can’t help but think he must have been a friend. His sadness at watching that is almost palpable.
Very moving indeed, was not aware of this incident, thanks.
Very moving. My dad was also in the USN, AMM 2nd Class, like Mr. Deen, flew in PBY crews, VP 205. Was stationed in Okinawa when the war ended. He was always grateful that President Truman dropped the bombs that gave reason for Japan to finally surrender.
There should be a navy ship called the USS Deen.
I'm certain that the honorable patriot that made the ultimate sacrifice on our behalf would wholeheartedly agree with his laying to rest in his beloved aircraft. Unorthodox, yes, but truly unique and highly honorable. May he rest in eternal peace and I sincerely hope his family were able to hold their heads high with pride at his act of valor and may we never forget him and cherish his memory forever.🇺🇸
To be buried at sea makes me so sad. To see this was heartbreaking😢
May he rest eternally, as a young child of the late 50's I recall sadly too often seeing dad quietly sitting in front of the TV silently tearing having never making a sound.
It was while watching Victory at Sea.
Dad was a Marine who was onle of the lucky ones to return.
May the souls of every US and allied servicemembers be patrolling gods oceans and guarding the halls of his mansions
Thank you and God rest
Thank yiu for sharing
Tenente Loyce Edward Deen, artilheiro, atingido no ataque aos Japoneses, na Indonésia.
Assim como muitos Heróis Norte Americanos, ofereceu sua vida lutando pela paz do mundo, contra a ditadura nazista/japonesa.
Deus os abençoe.
Deus abençoe os EUA.
I saw a lot of comments on here about Deen and what his rating was. The description uses small letters " naval aviator" , Naval Aviator with caps is a rating given to those awarded Navy pilot wings due to having qualified through training. Those pointing out that his rating was Aviation Machinist Mate 2nd Class are honoring him as such. Deen himself would no doubt have said forcefully "I am an AM and proud of it and a gunner to boot!"
I met a WW2 Naval Aviator that disregarded a wave off and hit and killed the gunner on the plane he ran into. I have pictures of the burial at sea. He was man enough to own it. Heat of battle decisions are often life or death.
Strong
and resilient generation. People today get despair and suffer heart attacks even when the electricity or internet signal goes out.
In fact they were not able to extricate the body from the plane....
A 40mm shell would have made most of the brave warrior's body unrecognizable. Apparently there was no head remaining. Fortunately a hand could be found, so fingerprints could be taken. Those, along with the dog tags they found, enabled the unfortunate warrior to be identified & relatives to be informed. RIP
@@derekbaker3279I'm pretty sure they knew who was crewing which aircraft and could have identified him that way just the same.
Rigor mortis had set in and removing the body in a timely matter would have taken too much time in a combat zone operation.
RIP Loyce Deen.
Makes you wonder how they extricated bodies from tanks in WWII.
@@crazygame2724 Do not make comments on subjects you clearly know nothing about And tarnish the navy's reasons for doing what needed to be done.
#1 rigor does not take effect for about 2 hours after death starting with the muscles in the face Then progresses to the limbs over the next few hours And 6 to 8 for full body
#2 The Japanese heavy cruiser Nachi was the target of this mission. Held in Manila bay. While the USS Essex was 157miles away While the TBF has a max speed of 275mph It is safe to say They were at cruise And climbing speed to the target. However the death happen at the location over Manila bay Returning would of taken no more than a hour.
#3 The reason the forces do fingerprint identification is When dogtags are no longer on the body Or damaged And when a persons face is no longer visible to men that could ID him as that person, The 40mm round had pushed metal into the body cavity This man had no identifiable remains in order to extract the man They would have to cut the plane up And remove framing out of the man Flight deck operations Seen this as a waste As the man could not be sent back home And the plane would not be recoverable
There is also psychological concerns, for the guys who have to remove a horrific tragedy like this.
My father in France,Germany and Italy. 26 yrs 9 months of service. Honor to them all
Very sad.. salute and respect 😔.. our RNZAF operated Avenger planes in WW2 🇳🇿
Ein junger Mensch der das Leben noch vor sich hatte. Eine Familie die trauert. Krieg ist einfach nur widerlich.
Very fitting and touching...
It looks like 1 lone sailor (probably a personal friend) stands alone watching to the very end. RIP ….
Never ever forget.
RIP brother
Thank you for this story. On a side note that is unrelated to the story but related more to the editing of the video. What happened to the sound through the video? There seems to be a portion where the soundtrack seemed to be tripping over itself. Like it was doubled up badly.
Brave to the end, RIP Airman 😢
Respect🇺🇸
The appalling face of War! Still mankind hasn't learnt
Deeply Moving.
This made me weep. Lest we forget.
Very sad even after all these years 😢.
And the sea shall claim all.
"And the sea shall give her dead " !!
RIP Sir, RIP!
Very Slow Right Hand SALUTE. And Very Heart Wrenching😢
we hear the word patriot all the time these days , its what you sacrifice that makes you a patriot this man was a true patriot
RIP Loyce Edward Deen.
I cannot even imagine being in a situation like that where it is literally do or die.
Rest in Peace 🕊️
The greatest generation..
Salute
Rest in peace 😢
"Semper-Fi"
So so very sad.
When the sea gives up it's dead, one of them is going to return in a WW 2 Navy fighter.😢