‘Completely predictable’: Vandals targeting EV charging stations for copper
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 พ.ค. 2024
- Sky News host Rita Panahi says it is “completely predictable” that vandals in the US are cutting cables from EV charging stations to steal the copper inside.
“We know that has happened with public transport, with train lines, copper gets stolen,” Ms Panahi said.
“In the eagerness to thrust this crap on us, they don’t worry about the consequences.”
Instead of trying to save the planet, try saving human values first!
Won't happen any time soon because there's far too much money to be made out of the whole 'Green' grift.
Prices on the slave market falling? 🤔
Time to EXECUTE anybody involved with drugs
Notice how Bowen is no longer trumpeting how good EV's are. The net zero backlash is working.
Bowen aint Facebook friends with Elon Musk anymore
😂😂😂
Even an idiot can see the writing on the wall. Or maybe not this idiot.
I live in California, the criminals here will steal your leftover burrito if you leave it in your car, oh, and your dirty laundry too. Nothing is off limits here in California, where criminals have more rights than the victims.
They would likely steal an overflowing diaper.
Just leave. California is doomed.
One thing is certain no one will steal your EV .
EVs will make the weather gooder and stop racism and covid.
😂😂😂😂😂😂 good one.
FUC& yeah!
It would be funny if it wasn’t so damn poorly planned , expensive and ineffective !
@@hotchihuahua1546 Fun fact : MORE effort went into grampianswillauracottage's joke than into the entire forced switch to EV campaign.
Which is great of course but don’t forget that EV’s are already finding solutions to the Middle East crisis.
Bowen obviously didnt take into account criminals stealing the copper.
Labor voters love copper.
Like he could care less!?
Bowen predictably doesn’t take anything of any kind into account - you need at least a partially functioning brain for that.
Ideology, meet reality. Hurts, don't it?
Don't you mean "Hertz"?
@@bradwilliams1691 I see what you did there, nice!
@@AximandTheCursed Cheers from Melbourne, Australia 🇦🇺
The truth Hertz
Don't kid yourselves...they want you to have a charging station at home so that they can shut you down whenever they want to!
With your 300 dollar rebate vote.
Utter BS, intelligent charging is an obvious very easy, cheap approach for grid stabilization. Usually we have plenty of power, but nasty peaks that may last for seconds or minutes, that endanger grid stability, this happens a few times a week. Now imagine you have thousends of cars charging on wallboxes, If your wallbox can be externally controlled by a signal that tells your wallbox the grid situation, , you can completely avoid such situations without doing harm to anyone, it does not affect you or your car if charging speed is reduced or increased for a few seconds or minutes, but it saves HUGE powerplant capacity and preserves grid stability.
The totalitarian takeover from overreaching governments are a reality that is definitely there, but it is complete nonsense to draw some "EVs are for controlling the people" conclusions.
It's the opposite, you are COMPLETELY dependant on others for refueling your car, while it is very easy to produce power independently, you can have extremely cheap solar, wind or biomass power, which would even work perfectly if you are not even connected to the grid.
This is where the argument for swappable batteries falls down; the opportunity of easy access to $20000 battery packs will make catalytic converter thieves salivate. Couple of guys with cordless wrenches and a suitably rigged trolley-jack in the back of a panel van will neuter EVs faster than an F1 pit stop.
If they are going to be swappable they will have to be easily removed.
There are technical solutions, such as embedding authentication chips in battery cells to render them useless when stolen
@@Mjbeswick The batteries need to work on a wide range of vehicles with an automated exchange system at recharge points. Any practical security system will be compromised as the method will be exposed (similar to the Range Rover thefts). It also assumes the thieves want a working battery, and not the scrap value. Most likely scenario is ripping batteries apart and reassembling the individual cells in other goods such as scooters and power tools.
As in the UK, this is the kind of thing that happens when you have been far too easy on criminals for decades.
They need to get a copper and have them charged !
😂😂😂😂😂
"Oh, ha ha ha ha, ha ha - nice one Centurion. Like it, like it" Monty Python's Life of Brian
Charged in a chair??
Nice
When you arrive at an Australian airport, the hire company will gleefully tell you you’ve been ‘upgraded’ to an EV. It like a hotel telling you you’ve been upgraded to the basement. You have to try and explain that you don’t want an EV because you are travelling into country areas. When they look at you with a blank expression, you have to explain the area you are visiting, in this case, is outside Canberra in a country area, where there are only 3 chargers within an area 200 sq Kms. Usually only 2 of those chargers actual work. If you are silly enough to own an EV in my town of 5000, you have to drive a round trip of 60 kms to charge you electric cart before you can even begin your journey. Of course, you just get a blank look from the representative whom, having lived in a city all their lives, cannot comprehend the point you are trying to make. Rental companies have massively over-invested in these things and can’t get anyone with any sense to use them if they are going into the regions or a country area.
they just try to rent out existing asset, nothing more. EVs are already bought, now they have to push it to customers to repay the cost. Even the customer does not want it.
Writing...while waiting...😂
Why are politicians so fkn clueless ?
Because they’re getting paid
Ideology rules the few brain pips. Having to think and reason takes to much brain power
Scrapping metals never ends
Here in South Africa we have a cable theft problem daily. They even dig up the underground cables to steal them. The will be back every couple of weeks to steal them again. You have to enact laws that prevents scrap dealers from buying copper. This problem is caused by your migrants problem (which we do have here too) and it will never stop.
Nope, we have enough true indigenous population to steal copper. Migrants are not so poor to aim for $50 loot.
1) When you drive a campervan or caravan to a powered caravan park you take your own cord and plug it into their socket. There is no cable to steal left lying around the caravan park.
2) When you drive your car to fill up with petrol each bowser has a rubber fuel line and nozzle which goes into a socket in your car. The rubber fuel line has no scrap value.
Q. Why was it decided that EV's were to copy model 2 instead of model 1 when it comes to charging an EV? Was it to make it look more like a normal car? Did the elite not think about the risk of theft?
because its high-current high-voltage cables, not just 20A cord, and leave it to driver, ie without any control and repair, is VERY dangerous.
@@antontsau I see what you mean. Some drivers might store the cord along with a wet towel.
@@davidvanderklauw some lower power chargers you do need to supply a cable
"The elite" didn't think, full stop. They just want total control over YOU.
they aren’t vandals. they’re thieves
Same is happening with signalling cables next to railroads over here in Germany btw. Keep driving ICEs everyone.
I read an auto translated Bulgarian article some years ago with headline 'Bulgaria laments out of metal detectors'. They went beyond copper and were taking manhole covers from the street and crash barriers from the roads. One chap with a horse and cart had reportedly taken a jet fighter piece by piece to the scrap yard.
I prefer stealing them from EV stations, if you want the truth.
I want an EV as much as I want a dose of crabs 🦀 😂😂😂
You sound like me. 😂😂😂
Easier to get rid of a dose…..
Couldn't stop laughing at your comment
EVs, tramps, and thieves
We'd hear it from the people of the town
They'd call us EVs, tramps, and thieves
But every night all the men would come around
And cut our cables down
😂😂😂😂😂
As little time as I have for the whole EV madness this level of theft is disgusting.
As EVs have now been around long enough to show, the life expectancy of EV batteries is approx 8 to 10 years with an incremental decline in charge/output efficiency during that period. I drive a 19 year old Ford Falcon. The fuel tank is the same size as it was when new. Slight age related decline in fuel consumption efficiency but that's it. You want an EV? Go for it. I don't so leave me alone.
They left a lot of Copper behind...
They must have been in a hurry.
How do you DOUBLE the resale value of your EV ...?
Charge it up !!!
Not paying 20k for a battery, when car is worth 20k.
Reminds me of the time before mobiles when we depended on public phones and many were vandalised..
There is a ceiling to the number of virtue signalling EV buyers … I’d say we are close to the ceiling now
Brilliant, thank you.
I've noticed a lot of EV's in my area have vote yes stickers on them.
There are a hundred reasons people get EVs. Why do simpletons think there is just one?
@@davidwall8954 Enlighten us.
@@davidwall8954 so what sort of EV have you got?
I wonder if the thieves showed up when someone was charging their EV? They would have gotten mugged as well.
What does it take to make a foolish politician LISTEN.
Nobody would have predicted that… 🤦🏻♂️😂😂😂
No interest in gasoline being siphoned from internal combustion vehicles for decades? Or catalytic converter thefts? Nope, just EVs bad, OIL GOOD!
They should tow all Chinese electric cars to scrap metal stations.
We won’t even let them into America!
The cost of just the EV battery is the same as an entire brand new I.C.E. car.
Easy fix. Have the cars carry their own charging cable, and have the charging station just have a plug.
Sure then rapid chargers would be non existent & people would need to wait many hours just to charge these ridiculous things
The problem here isn't EV's.
It's crime. Simple as that. Crime is the problem.
When politicians stop buying beach side mansions
, I'll consider the possibility of potentially believing global warming has a tiny piece of truth to it
And ban private jets, Economy class or they can shove their climate change BS where the sun really doesn't shine!
Also when manufactured goods are made to last, there is no fashion industry, no tourism, the lights in the cities are turned down to 10% or less, over population is addressed, all advertising banned, consumerism drive is stiffled, the rich are held accountable for their disproportionate resource use, the disparity between have and have not is fixed, the war mongers and their industries destroyed and science stops being activism perhaps I will reconsider.
If there's no one around to catch the thieves there's no one around when they mug - or do worse for someone charging there. It's certainly happening and it's certain it will never be reported by most news companies. I used to think Australian was a straightforward and honest country.
Vandals and thieves is that a cher song 😂😂😂
Isn’t it, Gypsy’s Tramps and Thieves? 😂😂😂
While I usually like and agree with much of what you say, blaming the chargers existence for crime is not an argument.
Anyway,EV cars are environmentally worse than normal cars.Stupid and malevolent idea.Stop buying that sh.t.
Only a clueless moron would say such BS. Why are you that dumb? It would be obvious in one hour of serious reserach, that this is utter crap BS, as EVs do not only save 70% primary energy compared to ICE, but are even in worst power production conditions (coal power) much cleaner and environmentally friendly.
That's not universally true, as portal vehicles are better for some situations, while electric are better for others. Electric vehicles are great for cities in heavy traffic. Synthetic hydrocarbons would be an idea solution if the cost of production can be reduced.
The biggest flaw with current EVs is that they have big heavy batteries, which are dead weight for most journeys. It would be better to build EVs with small batteries, while being able to put a long range battery in the boot which you can hire.
In Eastern Europe they stop have trolly buses in the cities, which are great as they run of the grid and diesel out of town.
@@Mjbeswick "Science" say there was 8000 CO2 in the time of dinosaurs and life thrived.Now they say it is 400+ and it is a threat to all life on Earth.It is a big lie.There is no climate crisis,overheating and other bull.... And we do not need EV at all.
@@Mjbeswick Battery technology has developed that fast, and contiues to improve about 15% per year in cycle resistence and range, while costs going down, that there is no need for hybrids these days. EV range at same car costs has doubled within a few years, driving 1000km with a midsize EV takes 10 hours including charging stops, and as charging infrastructure improves this will be even faster in a few years.
The production cost of a 80kWh Tesla Model S battery 10 years ago was roughly 90k, today it is 8k, this reality is not known to many people.
We now have electric buses with a range of 800km, we have a Tesla Semi electric 40 ton truck with 700km range, that recharges in 30 minutes to 70 percent, being able to go another 500km, ICE cars and trucks will be completely replaced, it does not make sense to put a combustion engine in anymore.
Current EV batteries in midsize cars have an energy density of 250 Wh/kg, expensive but already available is 500 Wh/kg, these will be used in electric aircraft and drones right now, but will get very cheap in a few years as mass production get's optimized, so we will see huge improvements.
Weight is not such a big issue, midsize cars are around 10percent heavier right now, which will change with better batteries, but weight is in general a small factor in EVs as it almost does zero to range and performance, contrary to an ICE car you get about 70% of the energy back wenn braking/going downhill. Thats the reason why EVs almost do not change their range when going on mountain roads, as average speed is slower than highwigh, which compensates for uphill/downhill losses, and thats the reason they are so crazy efficient in inner city traffic where they increase their advantage from 3:1 efficiency compared to an ICE car to 4:1 or even 5:1
All we need is a decent charging infrastructure, and knowledge to the people to understand why it is pretty terrible idea to burn valuable fossile ressources in combustion engines with such a terrible efficiency. Real life efficiency of an ICE car is 20%, EVs are above 70%, Tesla Model 3 is 84%, so we are saving tons and tons of primary energy in this transition, besides the obvious environmental improvements.
Chargers are an eyesore, seen them ruin many a vista and environment, seen them put in front of ocean views and spoil some towns.
Unlike those beautiful petrol stations
The EV owners want something to look at for a few hours.
The flaw is unattended chargepoints. The Tesla model is a humanless car experience:
You buy online in an eBay/Amazon.
You finance through an online bank (Musk is 1st amd foremost an internet banker)
You take delivery by cargo folk
You charge at home or you use humanless 'pumps' through your phone app.
You order service via online app.
You get electronic repairs and upgrades by online app.
LABOR IS FINNISHED ....
Not quick enough
@@jesstill7833 👍👍
Heck I used to work in a Maccies and the copper piping got stolen regularly, in the UK
I mean they are practically a gold mine sitting around.
When you are so scared of EV’s you celebrate vandalism. 🤔
Did you suffer from Koolaid withdrawals when you put your drink down long enough to write that ? I hope you at least took a breath.😂
😂 you only had to look at places like LA, New York, to see that will happen here. In LA, less than 20% of chargers are operative.
Think about it !
A brand new gas engine for a car is far cheaper than a battery pack for an EV !
The old gas motor you removed can be sent off to be rebuilt !
The amount of jobs it provides plus the ability to recycle makes more sense !
Some people in NZ already repair or repurpose car batteries.
Don’t you really mean to say “gasoline “ ?, the word “gas “ means something different ,not a liquid a gas literally as in CO2, ,oxygen , methane etc.
@@kenlydon1395It’s short for gasoline .
@@user-hd3pc6pn3gI would never buy a used battery !
@@hotchihuahua1546 Sometimes one or two batteries are stopping the whole battery pack. If the defective batteries are replaced with new ones, the whole pack works again. This is a bit like replacing piston rings, rather than the whole engine. I presume your concerns are about fire risk. I have no expert opinion to offer on this.
This is common in South Africa.
I remember driving through Oregon down to California to visit family. I was in the mountains on I-5 in the left lane hoping to pass a truck in the right lane. Unfortunately, an Earth Saver in a Prius pulled in front of me with no aspiration of passing the truck. Instead of getting angry, I got sly. I dropped back as if I also had no interest in passing the truck. Eventually, the truck pulled ahead of the Prius just enough to form a gap that provided an opportunity on an uphill slope. I gunned it... moved to the right lane and slipped by the Prius and back to the left lane to pass the truck. The Earth Savior expressed his anger by loudly honking. The road soon straightened out as we exited the mountains. I could see the Prius matching the speed of the truck far behind me.... making sure not to make the same mistake again. ;-)
Bwaahahahaha 🤡 hilarious.
Nope didn't see that coming
I would be more worried if they went to steal a EV, only a desperate hardened criminal would do that. 😂😂
Resale value 0,
Yet when challenged about where all these cheap second hand EVs are by someone who wants to buy one, it turns out the people making the claim are more dishonest than a second hand car salesman.
@@davidwall8954 Who, in their right mind would by a second hand EV?
@g8ymw I know lots of people with second hand EVs. The most popular carcin our local supermarket car park are old Nissan Leafs over a decade old, mainly bought second hand for $5-$15k. Anybody who has had one for a few years has saved more in fuel than the car cost them. It's a lot easier to find out the condition of an EV battery than the condition of a petrol engine.
Good!😂🤣
"‘Completely predictable’: Vandals *targeting* EV charging stations *for copper* "
...a little more "south africa" everyday....
Is this really a surprise.Railway cables have been pinched for years, EV cables are a gift.
Copper is attractive but Silver and oil is the Achilles heel of the whole modern civilization.
'Petrol is Blood' Panzer Colonel Kessler
The copper to the street lights in my street was stolen twice. They are quite new. A short piece of rope would substantially reduce public expense.
Tesla's are very convenient, especially for city dwellers, who can charge at home. If the panels are already on the roof charging is free.
Even Chinese despise BYD. The extra E.V.s are mostly in China due to ridiculous government subsidies.
Bring it on!!
I'm laughing (crying) with you! As is said, no one has a patent on stupidity.
I said that will happen. Imagine copper on every corner.
My 2010 Chrysler came with a 72 litre fuel tank. 14 years later, it still holds 72 litres and doesn’t need replacing!
A criminal copper commanding criminals?!? What will he be charged with?
🤔 "Solar panels?"
If you wondered how those Chinese fires that STARTED countrywide everywhere was from EVs.. 🤔🤣🤣
No, EV fires are very rare, about 50 times less frequently than ICE car fires. Hybrids burn even more often than ICE cars, but pure EV fires are extremely rare. 99% of reports are propaganda or BS that shows burning hybrids and sell them to the clueless as "EV fire"
Without government subsidies and companies getting lovely tax kickbacks these things would hardly sell. After all, there is only a certain number of hair dressers in the world.
Isn’t recycling *GREEN*
GOOD TO SEE RECYCLE AND LIVE
EVs are very expensive.
Not only are EVs backed up at ports but Chinas windturbines are stacked up by the thousand at Newcastle port with the logistics of moving them down the highway stopped by a lack of capacity of the roads to actually fit them onto them
Most of these stations have video surveillance. These criminals will be caught and prosecuted as they should be.
When you go soft on crime and hard on oil it does not end well
This left out the copper in air conditioner compressors.
the government should add a strict regulation to EV battery safety, performance and replacement fee
Where is my free petrol bowser
Crummy cars have people forgotten Holden already?
If European cars are so good why don't people buy them in Australia?
EV owners must provide their own charging cable to solve the problem.
If that copper is worth less than $900 US then the State of California won't prosecute.
Not going to end well 😆
Never ever buy an EV, only ever lease them.
The technology is simply not there yet. Until these things can charge themselves, it's a no-no. Which hybrids do anyhow. And you keep the option of long-distance travelling without dependency on charging stations.
I've heard that we will have to find 150% of all the copper that has ever been mined just to build all the E-Cars they want. Better hope we find a huge asteroid of copper in space.
And who are those two old fellows of anything?
Hybrids are the future for city vehicles. Country vehicles diesel.
Why? For all my Australian life, 15 years, I drive diesels in cities and its good.
Unlike the USA we are lucky in Australia, as our manufacturing industry was destroyed years ago.
Union's destroyed manufacturing in Australia
So far in malaysia, we put the station inside malls.
Copper hit $10.5k per tonne...record high EVER.
IF EVERY CAR IS CHARGING IMAGINE how much copper is lying around for criminals
Hilarious
Buying an EV is an ideological decision.
No, it is a question of intelligence, there might be some restrictions for people who cannot afford the usually higher initial price, but every sane person who looks into the topic can see why it does make sense, and why it would be insane to buy another new ICE car.
@@chriswilliams8607He am big right. Me by EV car am am big smarter then you! ICE car is poopy I am smartest men in that world. I drived me a Elektrik car.
@@chriswilliams8607You are assuming you're smarter than other people who would never buy one?
Yet you don't even know why some people never will, regardless of whether they end up being better vehicles eventually.
@@RogueElementMkII Yes i am definitely smarter than people who say they would never buy one, as only an idiot would say such a thing.
We do not have any technology on the horizon that can seriously compete with EVs, and thats clear for about 20 years now. Prices were too high, so it took a while untel they went down, but for several years now EVs are there and are working perfectly, that does not mean that everybody should drop his ICE car, it's perfectly ok to keep driving it, but nobody should be that dumb to buy another new ICE car.
@@chriswilliams8607Yet you still do not understand why most people will never buy one.
Danger.
They should replace the copper on those charging units with fibre optic leads initially.
If the fibre optic leads get stolen then move to the Nikola Tesla method (for contactless) charging of your EV's through the ether.
All you need to do is have a tower close by (they could use cellphone towers), then just "pull" your charge out of thin air.
You won't even have to park at a charging station. Just be close to a Tesla equipped tower and order your top up via an app on your smarty phone by on-account or by prepay.
By the time you emerge from lunch at your favourite cafe, the clothing store, the shoe store or supermarket, the top up should be complete.
Brains trust commenting from the cheap seats.
Even without copper theft….what about demand on electricity? Can we charge when there’s a blackout or storm or bushfire 😂😂😂😂
What is so funny about vandals stealing the copper whether from an EV station or whatever? I guess sky news has a different sense of humour.
Hahahahahaha Hahahahahaha Hahahahahaha
They left half the cable there lol
So if thieves steal copper pipes from building sites should running water in new houses be banned?
If rapists do terrible things to women should they stay at home?
How much is a pound of copper wire worth for scrap?
Tesla is worth buying. Battery warranty 7 years. Not many people keep their gas cars longer than 7 years
Kia advertises on my local radio telling people they have an EV event in their showrooms, I wonder how many sales they make. I will not be a buyer, that's for sure.
Sounds like South Africa 🇿🇦 😂😂😂😂
selling the wire .. also you can sell the adapter on the end ,,, hahahahahhagahaahhahahag OMG insanity ahahahagahahaah the gas pump has no worries
The only thing wrong with EVs are the batteries