How to Fix Lifter Tick or Rod Knocks With Oil Additives
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ต.ค. 2017
- In this video I will go over some of the common causes of lifter tick / knock or upper engine noise in general, but also the causes of a rod or main bearing knock and how you may try to fix them using oil additives. Most people are always looking for a way to quickly fix their lifter noise or engine noise issues and watching this video will surely help you find the fastest solution to your engine noise problem.
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You went waaaaaayyyyy beyond that "extra mile" in this video.
You're awesome.
Because he actually trying to teach as if u were there unlike other TH-camr mechanics lol 😂
hey man this guy is legit he gets technical but easy to understand and straight to the point 👍
You don't fix rod knocks with oil additives
It's for flipping cars like a shyster. It's fixed if you get your asking price for a shitted out engine.
If you think you have a lifter tapping, check for a loose or leaking plug wire first. It can be helpful to look for leaking plug wires in the dark. The 2 can sound very similar.
Good idea.
and if you still cannot find a possible leak then just gently slide your fingertips across the plug wires and surely it will find you :]
Make sure your blinker fluid is full if not it can leak and cause it to tick when you use it to turn 😉
@@surefiremushroomsmicrogreens I always do that when I rotate my muffler bearings and grease the radio.
I’ve accidentally clicked on your videos a week ago, and I become more knowledgeable about vehicles than ever before.. KEEP THE VIDEOS COMING!! THANK YOU!
I’ve never really understood how hydraulic lifters worked and how they received oil until now. Thank you. Great tutorial. 👍🏻. Subscribed.
Nice video. I'm not a mechanic and don't have the knowledge that you or your commenters have, but I was able to follow your clear explanations. I find engines fascinating. If I were younger and had the energy again, I think I'd consider that as an occupation. It looks like hard work, but building and repairing stuff would be rewarding.
Best description of lifters and overall functionality of the internal components of the head of an engine I've seen. Great video.
I like to say thank you for putting time aside to teach us all that you had just spoken about on the engine.
You are very helpful and very knowledgeable, thank you.👍👍👍👍
The most thorough lifter noise video on the tube ... Thanks a million.
Wow, I thought I was watching a high-budget Cable channel; the work that goes into these videos really shows!
Thanks for being so thorough. I love learning more about my car; I think I'll subscribe.
I really appreciate your channel. I drive for a living and this with maybe two other channels have helped me keep my 99 Taurus with over 260 k on the road!
I have a chevy astro van 2000, its been sitting for a week, when I started the engine the knocking noise was there. watching your Videos help to really understand Bro thank you very much.
Thank you so much for posting this video. You are very thorough in going over all of the causes for different engine noises. I own cars and trucks that range in year from 1988 to 2008, both foreign and domestic. They all seem to have some form of these noises. It's nice to have some easy fixes to try before I go to the mechanic and shell out the big bucks for serious repairs. Thumbs up!!
educational, informative, humorous! thanks mate!
3 yrs down the line, but the information is as important as I need it now. Thanks 👍, you have explained it well. And I have learned much.
And the way you explain things is perfect for me to understand. Along with the visual examples. Couldn't be happier
I've found that the best solution for engine noises is turn up the radio volume....;)
Hahaha !!! You are very hilarious but I totally agree with you. Rock & pop music are best.
Ill try that. .lol
Yes
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Good video my friend....I would like to add that some people hear Fuel Injectors popping pintel's and think their engine has an internal problem.....anyway this was one of your best videos, and my sister has never been naked......
Thanks man. Great video. I’ve been building my Miata racecar for like 18 months, and totally freaked out when I started the engine. I just needed a little patience.
your videos are by far the best ones for fixing cars step by step. Keep posting!!! thanks!
Man dude you the man I been waiting for a video like this for a very long time thanks I'm save this video I appreciate it
No lifter issues...but damn, I learned a LOT from this video! Very informative stuff!
By far the best and most informative video on the subject matter that I've come across on TH-cam! Kudos!
good honest points about allowing time to refill empty-flat lifters & empty VARIABLE VALVE TIMING mechanism to get refilled after being empty.
This lubrication lesson stresses the importance of not driving a cold & dry engine.... 🤗
This is the best video I ever watched! And I watch many.
You are very knowledgeable and professional in the issue highlighted. It is very informative and useful for the good maintenance of the engine to operate in good running condition. You did not miss out anything. You are direct and straight to the point. You are awesome !!! Keep up the good work ! I am Leong from Malaysia.
Thanks for putting this video together and for all the valuable information. It was also very exciting to watch all the tools and parts shacking and moving around when you revved up that AUDI. I hope that is just part of the entertainment. But again, thanks!
Thank you for the comment about the heat shield!! Got a truck that makes the noise on and off and I think you solved it for me.
I found it interesting. Thanks for the video. I don't have any engine knocks, but I'm just learning thing's about how engines work. very informative. Thanks
I really liked the practical test of starting your car and seeing how long it took for the lifters to quiet down. Nice work!
That was a good example indeed
@AzraelPercussionNEO so basically if your car sits overnight and it ticks when you start it then that is completely fine?
Was curious about a scab fix until parts arrive, learned some useful things. Subscribed!
Keep up the videos I'm learning so much, thank you for filling the gap in my head
will some lucas oil additive do the same thing for noisy lifter on start up?
1 other question does an engine knock have to become progressive louder and louder before the engine goes or will it go over time with just the same steady low knocking sound? This is a great knowledgeable auto shop class video 👍
Thanks for all the explanation, you are very thorough and go thru lots of useful details . Appreciate your work.
My 1998 328i was sitting for almost a year and when I started the engine it had this ticking sound . After charging the battery I'll start the engine if the ticking doesn't go away I'll try the engine flush
Glad I found your channel. My moms 2007 Yaris check engine light on so I changed spark plugs plus coil packs,then code for o2 sensor so I changed bank . Still runs rough and shakes the whole car. I bought a cheap sensor and changed it. Now it is running on three cylinders with a code p0308. The beginning code before any work was done was 2338.
You can fix rod knock by changing rod bearings if you catch early use assembly lube when replacing I do it all the time jus check crank for damage
That's the best maintenance for worn engines. If the bearings are worn, oil pressure goes down for the rest of the engine.
@@williamriley9226 rebuild
If you can hear the knock, it’s usually too late. I’ve found that periodically adding engine oil is much easier than an engine swap. It took a few engines to understand this concept. Live and learn I guess.
That is not true. You actually can save it when you hear a rod knocking couse your bad con rod bearings.
Best info video on Internet , awe in awe you are the man !
wow! i learned so much from this video, i'm going to make sure oil levels and oil changes stay in schedule. Thanks bud!! This BUD is for you......
Thank you great video i learned alot from this video PLEASE MAKE MORE!!!!
camaro 2013 knocking. like it's loosing out side of Moyer
Good vid, love the fast editing. FYI, rod and main bearing wear or damage can also be caused by sustained heavy load at high rpm and by sustained or ongoing fuel pre-detonation in addition to dirty oil or low oil. Most usually bearing wear and rod knocking will result from a combination of these causes, ie, sustained load at high rpm burning cheap gas that is pre-detonating 12,000 miles since the last oil change while three and a half quarts low on oil, which is usually what somebody does who is too cheap to do oil changes, check oil, uses 87 octane when the car is placarded for 91 or 93 or 102 and drives like a maniac on the freeway. Also, I've heard that repeated engine overheating can cause the oil to break down, causing its viscosity to change, causing bearing problems.
Kelly Trimble + It is so true what you have highlighted can contribute to the problem. Thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge with all of us.
Kelly Trimble this is exactly the problem with my Benz C250. I’ve used 87 fuel for 7 months before realizing it should be 91, now the engine makes a ticking noise. What can I do to fix it?
Cheap gas that really isn't 87 octane will also do it to you. Had this happen to a perfectly good V6 causing it to knock on cold starts (the ECU eventually adjusts the timing). Now I only used brand name premium gas and no more noises.
You obviously know your shit, why would my truck start misfiring, mainly under load over 30 mph, after adding restore.
Excellent. Looks like I'm taking the right first approach to my noisy hydraulic lifters.
Best video on youtube in regards to noise . I am amazed
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I don't. Is there another way I can support?
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dreamrealitysyndrome Sharing the video and the channel helps support him as well.
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As former ASE, when in doubt, ALWAYS go with new.
This guy is delusional. He thinks he's awesome when he couldn't be more wrong.
Great video mate tick tick tick
Great video. Very professional and informative. Thanks for posting.
My first comment. Thanks for your vids well done. I had Ford ranger took it to 280 000. Just replaced clutches, but I didn't know anything about the vehicle. It started cutting out. No clue mech said mass airflow i had to beleive didnt work.You tube is helping me with my vw cabrio. Thanks again. very helpful
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I put Lucas oil additive on my rebuilt engines just as an extra precautions & of course replace the oil when it's due
Hows it going so far ?
You realize Lucas "additive" has zero additives in it, just greasy slop in a $10 bottle. It should be called a "subtractive" instead, since all it does is dilute the motor oil with brightstock, which then sheers into gunk. Even worse is when it flashes off turbo bearings. I suggest you google "los"at a laboratory oriented site like BITOG, and quit pouring ridiculous marketing goo into your engine.
@@bushmaster1740 good to know bush
What do you recommend sir to stop the wear and tear inside the motor?
@@hectorrzepeda2998 I'm gonna try MMO - Marvel Mystery Oil
That information is nice to know, and so far I have not had a problem like those you mentioned in the video on my vehicles, or others I owned.
Engine Restore is amazing it rebuilt my lawnmower and eliminated blowby on my diesel truck all in one $27 can.
Great vid. My 08 impala SS 5.3L picked up a noise recently and I was wondering if it is bad to put Lucas stabilizer oil in it? 50,000 miles on it. What kinda lifters does it have? Thanks
It's more than likely hydrolic lifters
I run Lucas in a fully built civic your good
God Bless...good understandable videos. j
who yue hell gave this a thumbs down? he gives such good info. unbelievable
Wow man that engine sounded great at the end. Great job
Hi always enjoy your videos.
What about cam noises??
Is there a thing to help cam bearing noises??
Thank you again for everything.
God Bless
only thing i've found that helps cams is zddp addative. cams aren't actively lubricated, so they need somethitng soft that sticks. A lot of the time, noise from an overhead cam engine that's cam generated means you need to change your oil, though.
R230Tuner I actually have the same questions however I'm trying to eliminate what I believe to be the start of cam noise/lifter chirp on a 5.3 LS, from what I understand the people who have had it happen to them it starts out intermittent then is there all the time. Not sure if there are any additives that would help?
Tito Jones, someone have asked same question on some other channel. I recommend using better quality oil than what he was using. He switched to quality oil and noise went away. Noise is the result of metal rubbing against metal. High quality Oil eliminates noise because oil provides proper lubrication between metal components.
no i can't hear it as you're constantly talking over it. still a thumbs up
Exactly. Wtf
This is very useful, thank you. I have a 2013 Subaru H6 engine and I thought the lifters make noise on a cold start but it goes away quickly - in about one minute. It is not loud and disappears at idle in about 60 seconds. It appears I probably don't have to do anything right now or perhaps add Liqui Moly 20004 Hydraulic Lifter Additive. I appreciate the advice you gave. The engine has about 138,000 on it.
Very amazing info - on Rod knock versus lifter tick - treatments
Also minimizing the idle time of your engine can prevent premature wear, as oil pressure is lowest during idle.
get a good oil filter with check valve in it to hold oil for next start up...the most wear happens on a restart esp a cold / dry start
Hi, I have a tappet noise when sitting in traffic, not all the time just now and then, I was told to run an engine flush, does this need doing now or at next oil change? The car is a diesel Renault Clio (96,000 miles) and I play on the side of caution and always change my oil every 5k, its a manual as like most in the UK many Thanks Ian
sandydogy diesel us tricky, they are nosie on good day. May be related to fuel issue as well is diesels aren't running right they knock loud as well. Diesel oil geta very dirty and builds Sticktion.. Try a Sticktion reducer next oil change. Hotshots secret works well
Wonderful instruction. Should be required for anyone that has a car.
Great video man... having an engine out of the engine bay and showing what you're talking about. Really helpful explainations as well.
Good info, thanks!
But you shouldn't talk while you give us audio samples about engine noise, let us hear the difference first after that talk over it. #constructivecriticism
Great video. I particularly like how you took the engine apart and showed the various areas where oil circulation is needed. You also highlighted a major point I tell customers, that starts after the engine has sat for a long time or even over night is the time when most wear occurs on an engine. As you stated most oil additives treat the fluid to increase it's viscosity not always a good answer. As a used car salesmen you probably will enjoy this video by Gene Daughtry a veteran BHPH Dealer and consultant sharing his experiences with high mileage vehicles getting ready for sale or coming back from customers.
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Great thanks for the vid and I understnad everything just rewind a couple of times...so you are a good teacher.
Thanks man! Very informative! I learned a lot from your videos!
If fluids are good and oil pump is functioning properly and you have internal noise nothing will fix it but replacing whats broke. Anything you add will be a problem later
i have a question so my 50k mile truck has a small ticking sounds coming from the engine i think it may be a bad lifter but the engine light comes on and goes away. Could i add something to help it?
@@bluedude947 I don't know the exact cause of your ticking but it also can come from using to thin of a oil in a hot climate at this point the viscosity of the oil becomes more like water than oil. A loosing rocker can cause this ticking. I would put a oil pressure gauge on her and check that you are getting the proper pressure without it only the bottom bearings on the crank and pistons will stay lubricated
Seems like your Audi was smoking... I am assuming it's burning off dust / debris from sitting so long?
Hi. Thank you for the great video. Question: If it's a rod bearing failure, will I still hear the noise at high rpm? My engine just started making a noise but it's only at very low rpm (under 1k) when idling, and not always while idling. If I disconnect any spark plug, the extra vibration makes the knock noise evident. Thanks ahead for your reply.
Love your videos man, keep up the good work!
Everytime he said lifter I took a shot... Now I'm drunk.
😂😂😂
Lifter.
!!..lol..!!
People will find all sort of excuses to drink...
Estela Dapper I’ll drink to that. 🥂
my Ford Escape has constant lifter noise it's loud. but in the morning when I first turn it on and it's cold the engine sounds smooth until it warms up then lifter noise starts. any thoughts?
big dogger don't buy a ford
Use thicker oil.
My MGTF is not used much (but regularly started). Thought it had a sticky hydraulic lifter the other day. Put in some Wynns lifter lube and it seemed to fix it. Happy when the tapping went away.
That was an excellent video with a good explanation. Thanks
The main reason you have noise in both the lifters and in the big end bearings is that the oil galleries get clogged and the oil doesn't get to the parts any more (aka lack of lubrication). This typically occurs when the oil changes aren't done regularly or when the oil galleries are a bit too small and start to block with normal use.
The solution is either to fit larger galleries in key areas like the lifters or to improve lubrication to the problem areas.
Lighter oils will work for lifters but can create a problem for bottom ends.
Heavier oils work for bottom ends but can cause problems for lifters.
A flush will clean out the engine... but often it won't remove enough carbon (byproducts of combustion) and other particles (metals and dirt) to fix the problem... or you'll find that the problem comes back because you haven't addressed the cause of the problem (incomplete combustion).
One solution that will solve the problem in both the bottom end and the top end without compromising either is to improve lubrication by treating the metal directly. Then there will always be lubrication even if there is no oil e.g. xcelplus.com.au/
Applying Xcelplus single application super lubrication also cleans the engine and prevents carbon and particles from building up in the engine in the future... because the engine runs much cleaner. wears a lot less and nothing sticks to a treated surface.
:-)
I know your promoting your product no problem with that, just a question what would you recommend as a oil additive for lifters in a ford diesel 6.0?
An oil additive doesn't fix the problem permanently i.e. An oil additive has to be added to each oil change.
Xcelplus is a metal treatment and only needs a single application because it bonds to the metal and remains there even if you change the oil.
An oil additive won't stop the carbon deposits from forming again so the problem will return unless you add it every oil change. This gets very expensive and very few car owners ever consistently add an additive to each oil change?
Conversely, Xcelplus improves lubrication, the engine runs much cleaner which stops deposits from forming... so the problem can't recur.
Problem solved permanently.
🙂
P.S. Xcelplus will eliminate more noises in an engine and provide more protection than an oil additive even one that is added every oil change. It's not just the cleaning but also the lubrication that matters. Xcelplus is much more slippery than any oil additive and it also cleans better i.e. Includes a detergent
If you want additional lubrication you can add an oil additive. XcelPlus is synergistic with oil additives i.e. Both products work better together.
If you want more cleaning run a cleaner through before you add Xcelplus or an oil additive
PPS. Ring Free is an oil additive designed specifically to work with XcelPlus.
Sludge Out is a cleaner specifically designed to complement XcelPlus.
@@Xcelplus so will it fix or help stuck lifters?
Yes 🙂
He said everything about oil additives but he didn't say anything when you will add oil additives and how will affect the lifters
Good video! I hope you don't get many thumbs down!🤣🤣🤣
video was very educative, learnt a lot. thanks man
Best video I have seen in years on engines and it’s presentation 🤠Buddy
The best additive I have ever seen for clearing a lifter tick or a mildly collapsed lifter, is Marvel Mystery Oil. Put about half a quart in your engine. You can run it along with the oil and I've seen it clear liquor noises in less time than it takes to close the hood. I've also seen it take 10 to 15 minutes to clear it. I have never seen one bad enough where it took longer than that. It's a great product, and it has been bottled since 1923. It still works as advertised, if you have a 4.7 L Chrysler V8 with the hydraulic lash adjusters you should be using this religiously. If you have a chain tensioner on your engine you should be using this religiously. It keeps those things from getting plugged up with sludge and it will unplug them if they are plugged.
I'll try this tomorrow and report back.
I've already tried Liqui Moly and that had no affect.
@@MFRiley how’d it work
Do you use the hole bottle that’s 5.99$
@@MFRiley did it work?
@@ihatecandy02 Didn't work. I drive a Mitsubishi Mintero and they are well known to develop lifter tick. I think the only thing that'll solve the noise for me would be replacing the lifters. I might do that at some point, but I'm a broke college student so it's not high on my priority list. It's not detrimental to the engine, just a bit annoying.
Chris Rodnock
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LOL
Lol Ricer Miata
Like a glove
Great information. Kinda vague at the end but great video overall. I will try the Pro-Line Engine Flush.
Another good and informative video from this channel.
You're not fixing rodknock, you're only silencing it where you cant hear it but the rodknock is still there.
:( I learned it the hard way. Used Lucasoil stabilizer and fucked my engine years ago. I thought of suing them but took the blame because, the blame was ultimately mine. Lesson learned. Second lesson,: trial and error is not an acceptable way to learn auto mechanics
@@ghostrider2664 if you waited until you had a rod knock to add Lucas that's your problem. Lubricants are preventative, not corrective maintenance items. Adding a heavier weight oil on a dying engine isn't going to help anything.
Arroyo, he literally goes into detail that a rod knock can't be repaired short of rebuilding it.
Arroyo Gerardo I got this problem
Yeah but if you wanna sell it lol
Audio is a bit desynchronized.
Thanks man very informative and well put together. Professional's !!!!
Great video with lots of good information. Thanks!
MARVEL MYSTERY OIL 4 days in crank and gas.
Keep using it I have 2 test cars also improves compression and mpg 12.4 improvement at 60 mph
Have had great success with Marvel
When I was a kid, my uncle used to have hydraulic valve lifter noise on cold start-up in his Packard! Amazing that it took so long for the lifters to work properly in that Audi no matter how long it was sitting. If that's "normal", it's yet another good reason not to own one of those masterpieces of German "engineering".
I have a 2.5 TDI which I think is very similar to the 2.7 in layout *(V6 DOHC) any thoughts on why I would get ticking after the car warms up but not before? Come the summer I might rebuild the heads and check the lifters, I also have oil retention valves on my to do list (but understand these impact starting more).
I've done some fairly extreme flushing which didnt change anything so interested in your opinion as I know it's an odd one - last thought could be a noisy VP44 IP.
Unbelievably thorough video so thank you!
You had me at engine porn
i'm lmao at the thumbs down stipulations!
Very well explained! Great stuff!
Thanks a lot for the information my 2007 Infiniti m45 has been setting for a while, I have crunk the car and heard a noise from now from looking at this video my lifters thanks I will be replacing the catalytic converters soon & I think I just need to drive the car thank you much you stopped my worries.
Note to self : don’t buy an Audi from this guy
Audi , why should I want one
Bruh
The engine block is from a Subaru.
@@mariagricius8994 what kind of Subaru has V8 🤔
@@mariagricius8994 ahahahaha 🤣
I was tempted to thumbs down 👎this video because of the lack of dancing at the end but if you can assure me it'll be back in the next one I'll thumbs up 👍
I really liked your style and teaching technique it was very good and informative thank you
Do you really recommend the engine flush? I have an e36 bmw and was planning to try the engine flush as a maintenance job.