Is the hobby dead?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 พ.ค. 2024
- We haven’t had much new from home arcade companies lately. Mostly re-skins or “use your own tv” hookup boxes.
#walmart #target & others stopped carrying them in my area.
#arcade1up either can’t get licenses, can’t figure out what to do, or just doesn’t care.
Maybe it didn’t go as planned so other competitors saw the lack of market & bailed.
#homearcade #gameroom #atgames #terminator2 #terminator #arnoldschwarzenegger #mvsx #pacman
When a week's groceries costs as much as Arcade 1Up, that's the reason they're dying. We don't have the disposable income to buy $300-$700 arcade machines with maybe only 1 or 2 games on them. It was already a niche item and just not economically viable anymore.
Wait doesn't that mean that they're cheaper than ever? Because a machine used to cost a rent and car payment
Great video and topic. Home arcade is only dead if you looked to only one company to be the be all end all answer to playing arcade games. You raise many good points in your video. It IS changing and will continue to evolve. The people that love arcade games will always be into it though. I do not see that changing ever. I subscribed.
I don't think arcade hobby is dead. I do how ever think in today with inflation is causing prices to go up it's very hard to purchase a arcade cab when you get done paying the mortgage, groceries, car payments and other expenses and have money for entertainment. I do think you will see new arcade cabs coming out from Arcade 1Up next year. When there is a presidential election year things kind of slow down people tend hold back on spending. Thanks for the great review that other people are feeling the same pain.
I didn’t think about election year causing issues. Good point!
The "Partycade" is my absolute favorite form factor. Fits anywhere with some awesome games lists on each one.
And you can even upgrade them and mod them to run emulators and a ton more games
An 8 degree rotation stick would be good, like Xybots, Ikari Warriors, and Forgotten Worlds... the arcade games that are difficult to emulate with standard sticks.
But what's nostalgic for you may not being nostalgic for me. I feel nostalgic for Pac-Man in space Invaders and centipede and defender.
That's why a multi-cade type cabinet running an emulation front end with all the games you want on one machine makes much more sense IMO.
A huge factor is that the generation that remembers those days are either just ageing alot, I'm 1980, but the 70s crowd are gone past nostalgia baiting
I wish we had more 70s titles.
yea pretty much. There's a few more titles i think that could be profitable to tap into, but they've kind of already done most of the heavy hitters. I downsized and just converted an a1up machine to a multicade with an extended 3rd party control panel and 20" monitor upgrade.
Honestly, just gut one and put a PC with an arcade front-end like BigBox, or a Raspberry Pi 5 with RetroPie in there and they'll play anything up to Playstation 2/N64/Wii/Sega Dreamcast, and Arcades up to the early 2000's pretty easily, with online connectivity etc.
$700 is reasonable considering original arcade cabs cost in the thousands. Arcade 1 Up has made mistakes.
Yeah but they were much more expensive to produce back then and were made much better. They're only 3/4 the size too. $700 is not at all reasonable for some particle board and $30 worth of electronics.
700 is NOT reasonable for these things, haha.
I'm glad I bought my REAL games back in the 90s when they were next to free. Missile Command, Pac-Man, Defender, Asteroids Deluxe and Mr. Do! Less than $100 invested per game. The butchered up 60-1 or 1Up knock-offs may be dying out, but not nice condition survivors from back in the day.
Same. I sold them on though. I bought Star Wars vector stand-up for £50 in perfect working order, Pacman, Astro Blaster, Missile Command, and a LOT of JAMMA based cabs and games for almost nothing at the time as arcades just wanted to clear them out to replace them. I just have one customised cab now, with a PC inside and BigBox front-end with tens of thousands of games, and a big monitor hidden behind black perspex with shaders to emulate scanlines. Also a big sound system in there so it kicks ass with the base :)
MAME on a laptop running to a CRT with a USB fightstick is all you need.
Yeah I'm not really sure that this guy is buying arcade machines because he needs to feel those buttery analogue controls only a board can give you. These Boutique companies just build a box run m a m e and then just download whatever ROMs the customer wants and they can charge thousands because it's" customized". You could screen mirror a whole network of any of these games on a $20 cell phone
Try a PC, all the emulators available including MAME, buy a couple of different controller boards (Some are exactly like the arcade versions), and play whatever you want on a nice big monitor. (Make sure to get a monitor you can rotate 90 degrees for games like Centipede or Tempest). That is what I did. I refuse to pay hundreds for games I can get for free.
I heard back in the day that an original Ms Pac Man could cost up to 6K due to demand. Some others were perhaps half as much. Yes, it was ONLY MS Pac Man for that price, or whatever price you paid for a machine. Get us some Zaxxon already.
Cost isn't to bad on some. My first 1Up was the original Galaga cab. Only 2 games. (Galaga and Galaxian... Complete with wrong colors on the second). The cab and the riser came out to about $240 I think. My Midway Legacy cab was a little over $300 and it has 12 games on it. There are other cabs that interest me because of the unique controls. (Star Wars, Tron). The problem is places like Wal-Mart don't carry 1Ups anymore at most locations and Best Buy never had the titles I was looking for. Star Wars you needed to go to some online store you never heard of. I'm not throwing my card numbers out there and I'm not having someone deliver my cab outside in some "drop and run" style like Amazon for something so expensive. Space is also getting to be an issue. I'm up to 6 Arcade 1Ups. Pac-Man may be done to death but most of the staple games people would be looking for have been done. Other games... Would there be enough demand for them to sell? Crazy Climber, Star Castle, Zaxxon, Space Fury, Eliminator, Astro Blaster, Enduro Racer... all good games but would there be enough demand for it? Also some are available in other forms (CD compilations) so would a 3/4 scale cabinet be worth it? Unique control schemes might sell for some. Most of the heavy hitters have been done. Q*Bert might stand a chance if they include Q*Bert's Qubes and Faster Harder More Challenging Q*Bert. (And would have to have the knocker! That made the game.) Donkey Kong and Donkey Kong Jr. would sell like hotcakes but that will never happen. (Yeah, a Donkey Kong, Donkey Kong Jr., Donkey Kong 3, Mario Bros., Super Mario Bros. cabinet... Tell me that wouldn't sell out!) The licensing would never happen or the cost for it would kill that project.
That Enduro Racer lever would be difficult to emulate and too expensive to implement without it being flimsy. I have never seen it on MAME so I'm not sure how the controls would work.
I know it exists on MAME. At least a couple revisions. I think the original wasn't working but a bootleg one was way way back. Had imperfect sound but it ran. Should have been figured out by now. Only problem with a home version would be some kid hanging on the handlebars pulling it back potentially tipping it over. Otherwise a pretty cool line up could be done. Hang On, Super Hang On, Enduro Racer.... Yeah, I would probably be in on that one. I used to be able to finish Enduro Racer constantly with time left over... Until they changed the difficulty settling. Nope, now you can have it.
This is why people mod the arcaden1ups just to get all those games like donkey king and dk Jr dk 3 arcade games. I would absolutely buy a donkey kong arcade
@@ryeweskey they do sell them on Etsy. I have one with a jamma 60
I just want a Galaga partycade, picked up the super pac-man partycade for 200 on sale. Love it.
I might even buy an Evercade arcade too and buy the carts to run games.
Arcade1up seems to be dying a slow death. Only 2 new cabs this year so far: X-Men 97 and yet another Golden Tee. With John D their head of licensing gone his replacement the inexperienced 20-something Cyrus has no generational connection to our nostalgia it seems they won’t be getting new licenses for games we want. Hopefully a new company like John D’s Media1up will give them some much needed competition.
Yet to see what John D’s company brings but the others just aren’t what I’m looking for. New Wave Toys has a golden tee box you have to connect to your tv & Evercade Alpha just 1 control countercade. Meh
I'd love if they did an Area 51/Maximum Force cabinet.
Yes!
Yeah homie the people of the comments have decided that if you have a kid that's old enough have him show you how to download m a m e you could run it from a cell phone and wirelessly send it to any TV in the house or garage, you can also hook up any type of controller and it will work well for most games like die hard X-Men Ghouls and ghosts✌️😬👍
The fad is over. None of their machines are manufactured beyond 10,000 units. That is a VERY small market.
I hope not, but you may be right.
i am not a robot ... hahahahhahahahaha
home arcades? NOPE. terminator 2 requires a 100inch screen to get the full effect LMFAO. then a VR mode needs to be modded HAHAHA
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I thought the first gen Pacman was only Pacman or was that just a UK thing? Didn't they have an issue with the control panel scratching around the stick on 1st gen or was that the bar top version that came with Galga? I'm sure I saw people saying they quickly sent out plexiglass covers and then started using that on all new builds?
The paint would wear off the control panels on the really early 1Ups. First thing I did when I got my Galaga machine was to put on laminating sheets on the control panel to protect the artwork. Plastic deck protectors came out shortly after. Makes no sense to dump big bucks on a cab to have the paint rub off.
@@domeshtan1677 That's a good idea to use laminate sheet, I will keep that in mind. Yeah, the long term look of the machine is just as important as playing it.
I honestly never understood the appeal of the arcade one-up machines. I guess if you have a bunch of extra space in your home that you're looking to fill up with arcade cabinets they are the least expensive option. I find the multi-cade type of setup to be much more appealing. I built my own two player pedestal but you can buy flat pack versions from companies like game room solutions for a pretty reasonable price. Stick a PC in there running something like Retrobat or Batocera and to me you have a much better bargain and much more potential for the kind of nostalgia you're looking for. I have every single game I remember from my arcade days back in the late '70s and '80s and pretty much all the consoles covered as well. Sure you can't have all different control types on one cabinet. But you could pretty easily whittle it down to three. Say maybe one for driving games one for gun games and another for everything else. I managed to fit two player controls, a trackball, a spinner, a flight stick and two retro shooter guns all into one pedestal. That's a lot of mileage out of just one machine. Just my two cents worth.
Nice! Multicades are an option for those with limited space that just wanna play. The full arcade setup gives that nostalgia of walking into an arcade as a youth; remembering the sights & sounds; thinking of the lines to play the latest game. And the cabinet artwork that so far A1Up being the best at recreating.
EXACTLY! Screw this over-priced nonsense. $500 for a sheet of particle board, a $50 computer board, and a $50 cheap-o monitor with sub-par controllers to make it worse. Have they ever heard of leaf-switch controls like REAL arcade machines have. I think not. All microswitch garbage.
T2 was a good game. Always love to kill robots besides Robocop of course.
it was always going to hit a wall of what people could want/do. If its not the ridiculous prices A1up charges on launch, then they may have hit the limit of what common folk would want a 3/4 size arcade for their office/mancave/etc. And the die-hards either mod cabinets for multicade PC setups, or create machines out of a specific game that'll likely never get an official release.
Arcade 1 up are over priced its better to get the Legends Ultimate arcade.....at least u can download most of the games to a usb and at alot of games.....
If prices go up much more, you will be able to buy a used, actual arcade cabinet instead. At $700, they have already priced themselves out of the diy market. I couldn't see spending that much on a smaller machine when I could build one any size or any game I wanted from scratch for MUCH less, using faster processing and better controls.
A Quest headset is way better
iiRcade killed themselves with piss poor management and A1UP seems to be following suit. Atgames has gotten too expensive for me. NWT is absolutely useless overpriced trinkets. Home arcade definitely seems to be on life support. Another company needs to rise up and hit that 300-500 price point with solid quality. Tall task but thats whats needed to re energize the hobby. My rooms full so if its done ill be ok but rather this wasn't done. It was a hell of a lot of fun making the garage an arcade.
AtGames has really put all their eggs into the pinball basket since a1up has abandoned their pinball plans. Though, i modded a used a1Up pinball machine for a PC build. I love their cabs form factor.
I miss the old plug and plays.
Some company needs to get the licensing to ALL pac-man games, including Ms, Jr. and Baby and put them all on one machine.
never going to happen. they won't get the licensing, and who's going to mix pinball (virtual) in there.
just emulate it yourself. been doing it for ages.
@@negative1723
A man can wish
If you were really paying attention this shit died 2 years ago.