How to start a Lanz Bulldog
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ค. 2023
- This is a step by step instructional video on starting a Lanz D8516 "N-Model" Bulldog. There are lots of videos on-line of people starting their Puppies but no actual instructions on how to start one. It is quite a process to start these tractors. There are also several places that you can get hurt, or damage your machine if you do it wrong.
I hope this helps new Doggy owners to avoid the pitfalls and get their machine running. - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
australia is the last place i would expect a lanz bulldog starting tutorial to come from.
great video
Actually they were very popular in Australia. There is a wonderful book written by an Australian Lanz dealer. Tractors, Kalashnikovs, and Green Tea. By Ian Johnson. Very interesting look at early tractor years.
@@jamesgresham2030 i didnt know that
@@xy_iron And there is at east one MASSIVE Bulldog that used to appear at Casino NSW 'horsepower' (?) field days. Didnt see him get beaten by anything modern in the tractor pull comp. It made the ground shake!
By the time you get the thing started, growing season is over...
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Agree well almost, they were built simple to be run and repaired cheaply, all when Germany was struggling financially, plus these tractors were a big improvement on doing so much by hand or by horse. One thing I do like is that fact the Lanz is still able to do some work and runs like clock unlike the modern stuff in 60 or 70 years from now.
LMAO? But ain't it cool! 😎
Takes a fraction of the time needed to harness a team.
Having run draft horses, I do have to agree.
You are indeed blessed to have this vintage machine. There is beauty in simplicity as well as dependability.
Greetings from the UK. I have two on steel spade lugs. My late father farmed with Bulldogs in the 1950's, 60's and into the early 70's. They were solid and very cheap to buy after the war as no one wanted to buy anything German. Have yet to start one myself and get it out the barn hence looking at your video for inspiration. Great video.
Hi Mate. Glad you liked the video. As it happens I am on the Isle of Wight at the moment. Great to hear that you have a Puppy stored away. Let me know if I can help you get it going. If it is free and has any compression, we should be able to get it running. There is not much to go wrong.
A great video. I live in the UK am 77 years old and as a child was able to watch this procedure live many times. Unfortunately the tractor was scrapped before I was old enough to start it myself. However a few years later I purchased a 1902 Hornsby Akroyd 4 nhp blowlamp start that required bouncing the flywheel to start it. Only Stauffer greasers and an oilcan for lubrication. A possible help to start in the right direction. Make sure to put the most effort into turning the flywheel backwards as you alternate the energy input then hopefully it will fire to run predominantly in the right direction. Cheers Andy Ag Eng retired.
Hi Andy. Yep. I've tried bouncing it hard in the reverse direction. But it seems to fire much more strongly in reverse than in forward. I suspect that the governor eccentric is worn in the forward direction and therefore the fuel delivery is retarded when running forward. Some day I will have an expert look at it.
I also operate a Rumely oil-pull for our local museum. Now that is interesting o start!!
Beautifully explained and filmed video from a time when men were men and machines didn't take prisoners.
One of the best videos to starrt a Bulldog! Regardins from Germay!
In Germany we sad" Wer gut schmiert, der gut fährt!"
as my germay friend sad starrting lanz bulldog is hard
This makes lighting up a steam engine look simple by comparison. What a procedure! Excellent video by the way.
I start to discover this fascinating world of old machines not long ago. I´m astonished how durable they are and they are working till this day (some are incredible old) and sometimes literally man eating if you are not carefull enough (that flywheel section was very disturbing what can happen!). It must be quite costly to have such tractor for a farmer - not to mention new parts, but also all the "resources" required for daily use and starting.
I´m not that handy with mechanics, but your explanation was very clear and I understood it perfectly! Impressive and thank you :)
Thanks mate. The truth is, these things are actually very simple and easy to keep running. They are built for farmers who only know horses, have very limited tools, and very limited knowledge. They are very very simple machines. But you do need some patience.
@@jamesgresham2030 Haha, that explains why that was easy to understand for me :D Still, those are amazing machines!
The best video about "How to start a Lanz Bulldog".
Love it Blokes..... I remember my childhood in the deep south of Chile, seated on the fender, working the fields.... thanks!
Hi Mate. Glad you liked the clip. Some tractors actually had a nice little seat with hand rail on the fender. Some even had a bench for two people. Very cosy . Chile hey? I must visit South America some day.
Great video James thank you for showing a procrastinating Doggy owner how simple it really is to start one.
That is one beautiful machine, and such an interesting way of getting it fired up.
As my father owns a Field Marshall, I’m used to tractors having a somewhat odd firing procedure, but I’d like to thank you very much for not only showing, but also explaining the startup procedure of this magnificent piece of engineering. Thank you!!
You’re very welcome. Thanks. Glad you liked the video.
I Agree 👍
@@jamesgresham2030thank you so much! I love ole tractors of all kinds, I had the privilege of my engineer father born in 44 enjoying his dad's tractors down home in millville Cincinnati Ohio area and I was fortunate enough that my dad restored several old tractors and when he passed away they're still next door in the barn and I keep them running because I paid enough attention and them ever learning about them. I love taking them for a stroll. But honestly must admit I never knew they did two stroke engines in tractors so cool. I don't claim to have researched every thing about all.
Thanks for this ! I remember sitting on the front steps of my aunt and uncle’s house in Western Canada watching their son start a Lanz. I was 3 years old an now 68. I remember the steering wheel start but I thought they used a shot shell to fire it. It may have been a newer modern version 😅. Still sticks with me in my mind and is a great memory. I must have been impressed!
The Field Marshall tractor used a 12ga blank shotgun shell. Coffman starter system.
@@danburch9989 it was definitely a blue and orange Lanz so I must be mistaken about the shot . It is a few years ago!
What size engine it is?
@@Maketsu_81 4.8L & 10.3L were the most common, probably this was a 10.3, the largest.
@@danburch9989 Thanks👍👍❤️❤️
Nice one James
Not too many TH-camrs can make a complete video out of starting a tractor
I’m rather stunned by how popular it has been.
My uncle had a Lanz here in South Africa in the middle 1950's. Of course, it was not the steering wheel starting model. That tractor fascinated me. Thanks for the memories.
Greetings from America, great job Mate. James, this is one of the best videos that I have seen for starting instruction of a Lanz Bulldog. Thanx for sharing.😃
Thanks Kevin Glad you liked it. There are a few things I missed but it covers the high points I think.
I would never ever been able to start this antique tractor without seeing this video !!!
Thanks for sharing
Me either! Thx.
very welcome. Glad you liked it.
The sheer genius of this engine makes me want one for my own!
No cam shaft.s, No push rods, rockers, valves, spark plugs, magnetos, water pumps, carburetors, or even injection pumps. Will run on just about anything oily and produces remarkable torque.
The head Lanz engineer used to insist that a tractor cannot be single cylinder-ed enough. Who knows what this tech would be like today if it had been pursued.
Great video. I live in Ballan, we have machine club out at the old racecourse with a few Lanz Bulldogs.
I really like the old Bulldogs, wish I could see one in person, I think they were available in Canada but never made it to the US. I've watched several starts on TH-cam and seems they most time roll it forward bouncing off the compression and really pull it hard to the reverse and it starts in the correct direction most of the time It is quite the ordeal, but beats harnessing and hooking up the horses.
Wow that was super cool..imagine someone that wanted to steal it...😂😂😂
Hi James, this was great to watch! I don’t live on or near a farm but I have a soft spot for anything related to older technology. I bought a die-cast model of a Bulldog when I was a kid, great to see a real one actually running on TH-cam. My mom is a farmers’ daughter. My grandparents must have had something similar back in the day. Thanks for this!
When I was a child, my parent bought a little property with a dead Bulldog in the shed. I loved it at the time and spend many hours sitting on it making brummm noises. Dad gave it to a neighbor who got it going and I got a chance to ride on it and watch it blow smoke rings!
Awesome. Sounds like great childhood memories!
These things will run forever. Take care of her and she will be around for generations.
An interesting and pleasant journey back in time. Thanks for the trip.
Very informative and nice video, thank You for sharing! As a German I have to say that You are truly the Master of your machine, which is the way it has to be.
Still remember the times when LANZ and HANOMAG were drivin' around in our lil' village, together with many DEUTZ-tractors. Today I own my Dad's FENDT Farmer 1Z from 1961, still works like a charm.
Thanks Mate. Glad you liked the video.
Most complete demonstration seen to date! Thanks for all the info. Happy Holidays from Atlanta, GA, USA.
Thanks mate. Glad you liked the video.
Atlanta hey? Believe it or not I used to work out of ATL flying CRJs for ASA. A subsidiary of Delta.
One of my former lives.
Love them startet to help a friend of mine to fix his old lanz tractors we alredy get 2 running love them
And all you said was true much respect too your knowlage lets keep them old girls alive
GREAT video thank you
I don't know why but I've been fascinated with both the tractor and the stationery engine since I first see one
But what fascinated me the most was watching it sit there just running and backwards.... AMAZING BIT OF KIT
I would love one !!
They can run at zero RPM too. Calmly sitting there bouncing back and forth. I did demonstrate it for the video but the clip was getting to long and I had to cut it out.
@@jamesgresham2030 , does this one also have the dial on the "dash" showing "direction of running" ?
Damn, this man knows his machine, well done.
I like how the Fiat S76 basically has 4 of those massive cylinders in an inline engine and set the new land speed record at the time.
Thank you Sir. I have seen lots of similar videos and personal experiences at shows,
but never the whole process so clear in almost lecture fashion.😎😎
It is a wonderful beast with a fantastically distinct sound.❤
In really cold weather, you would drain the radiator over night and then bring the water to the boil before pouring it back in. Then you poured a spoon full of petrol down a special fitting and that ran onto the piston and sleeve to free up the cold sticky oil. Then it swung into life very easily. Done correctly, it took some time, but they always started even in the most brutal weather.
Very good video, thank you. Yes, I've heard stories of old diesel engines sometimes starting backwards.
That's really neat alot of steps but. Things sure worked well back then nothing like old big boy toys
“Hang on bro I gotta pre heat my torch”
*pulls out a series of progressively smaller torches until one can be warmed up with a single match*
Amazing tractor bet she's got lots of torque . Why cat we build things like this that will run forever and just keep going years an years. Love the lanz tractors.
My Rc Airplane 2 Stroke Engines useca " Glow Wand", to Heat a " Glow Plug". Once Glow Engines warms, it Runs itself.
When I Realized that, the Tech of Your Tractor " "Clicked", in my head.
Amazing and very interesting. I had a good chuckle over that steering wheel. Nothing could have surprised me more. Thanks for posting.
Good lord, that’s a beast. Really nice explanation.
Thanks mate. It is a handful to drive compared to modern tractors. One has to take his hat off to the old timers.
@@jamesgresham2030 Looks like fun! grew up with a Ford 9N. Much simpler to get going.
What a GREAT video, you sure do know your tractor. Thanks , stay well.
Love the sound of it redlining!
These old workhorses might not go very fast in terms of speed, but they are torque monsters and seem to haul arse when you see them going down the road, easily able to roll alongside modern cars! Lanz Bulldog as daily driver!
Love looking at these hot bulb machines at the Great Dorset Steam Fair in the UK, Great Vid
Hi James, great video and great to see a fellow Aussie on a video, best regards, Bruce
Thanks mate. No worries.
Well done sir. Excellent video!
Thank you very much for explaining how to manually start the Lanz Bulldog modle 8516. Very well shown on video.
Gotta love it....need to start plowing at 8 a.m..... start starting procedure at 6:45 or 7 if you are fast.
VERY cool presentation of starting the bulldog - good show.
I had contact daily with similar tractor URSUS in 1950 th and 60 th. Lots of fun and noise.
looks like the secret to starting it is to make your first crank in the opposite direction. or make the hard crank backwards and then let it ride forwards
Superb old school farm tractor 👍🚜
Wow, better have breakfast before you start that thing. Thanks for the video.
Nice old school equipment !
Thanks for showing that. Very interesting
I just got a 1936 McCormick Deering 10-20 and a 1936 Farmall F12 and thought they took a bit to get going. That's until I saw this video! Pretty cool video and tractor!
I actually did a video of a McCormick 10-20 the other day. It is owned by our local museum and I wanted to give them something to reference so that they could start their tractor. I also did a similar one of how to start their Blackstone crawler. The one and only one known in the world to still be running. If you check my channel you should find both. They are really reference videos, not really for general entertainment.
I love semidiesel's sound. It has a funnel like a motorship! Displacement 15.000 cc for 50 hp at 700 rpm? All very fascinating.
This one is 10.3 litre and 35 hp at 540 rpm.
But they always surprise people with how hard they will pull. There are lots of you tube clips of these things pulling. Check them out.
@@jamesgresham2030 👍
That's a great , clear demonstration , beautiful piece of kit . As one hat wearer to another , I reckon your hats just got comfortable 👍🇬🇧
Thanks mate. I should point out the the white on my hat is not bird poop (mostly). It is probably cattle drench or paint.
good job .... greetings from Germany❤
Technically the oil pump should lubricate in either direction. But when 'running' it at zero RPM for a long time it may not lubricate all points properly. The older ones were designed to run backwards and forwards as they did not have reverse gears.
Always fascinated by these, best video on them I've seem. Thank you for sharing.
Lovely! Thanks for showing how this machine works.
As a young bloke I remember one of my uncle s had a lanz ! It took a month of Sundays to get it running ! But when it started it would not stop !
Also remember a few of his mates would say get a new tractor Duncan !
He'd always reply but when yours stops who's going to rescue you ?
Merry Christmas 🎄🙏
Remember the reason..,
@@jamesgresham2030 yes
Love the old tractors
And I thought my old 9N with the 6 volt electric system in the winter was difficult! Wow!
Actually, with a bit of patience, the tractor starts really very easily. Sometimes on the first bounce.
@@jamesgresham2030 and also,it will start easily at every temperature, the hotbulb just need to be hot enough !
Thanks for the explanations! Farmers have to be very good mechanics. It will probably be difficult to extend in a similar way the lifetime of new generation computerized tractors, due to obsolescence of computers devices, softwares and the business model of manufacturers who wish to keep hold on diagnosis and maintenance.
Most of our modern environmentally "friendly " gear is designed to be thrown away and replaced every few years. Have you ever tried to put a new battery in a Tesla? Can't be done.
amazing how the man can reverse the direction of engine rotation :-)
What an awesome machine 😍 thx for upload man 😇
Very good instruction on how to start a Bulldog. You may not know that you have to remove the "compression screw" from the head as the air pressure may prevent the oil from oiling the piston and gudgeon when you prime it.
As you wind the fly wheel around to the correct spot for pre piling the engine does start to come up on compression. Perhaps because this engine is old and worn, I can get to the right spot without having to pull the plug. A new tight engine might be harder though.
The manual does suggest that you might have to pull the plug if I remember correctly.
Thanks for you comment though. Glad you liked the video. All done in one take, hence the occasional slightly incorrect commentary.
This is new to me but very interesting thanks for the video
All new respect for the older farmers.
From another era :-)
In the town where i grew up there used to be a fair where some people brought their old Landinis "testa calda", the italian cousin of the Bulldog. The starting procedure is mostly the same but the ones i saw you had to grab the flywheel directly to start it. I used to run on the street to see the arrive every year as soon as i heard them (hard not to)
This was an awesome video. Thanks!
So...if you were to be pulling an implement, and the tractor bogged down enough, it could potentially switch itself to running in reverse, right?
yep. It is a known challenge. Running over you own plough. Competition tractor pulling guys will let it stall and take off backwards then they jump on the clutch select, reverse and drive away forward. It gets really confusing.
The engine is much weaker running backwards, I suspect the injection timing is in the wrong place in reverse, also in reverse the governor weights are leading rather than trailing and would be tending to work against bringing the eccentric into maximum stroke I think.
About 2:19 can be seen the circular governor housing bolted to the inside of the flywheel. The two springs for the two weights are visible. Just above his hand is the adjusting bolt for the high idle weight with its two locknuts.
I worked these tractors for years plowing, sowing, harvesting, pushing up logs and mallee scrub and tank sinking, the engine running backwards and hence the tractor is a novelty or party trick rather than a preferred practice.
Thanks for a great video, most interesting.
Great video , thanks for posting
Great Video and How To!!!!
Hi, it's great to these machines work. None of the new generation machines won't last beyond 15- 20 years
To be fair, as soon as something came along that started with a push of a button or turn of a key, and didn't shake like a dog defecating razor blades, these got parked in a fence row.
This is fantastic! What a great presentation! Thank you very much for sharing this!
Thanks mate
Remarkable and fascinating, thanks for sharing !
Engineering at its finest. It'd take this over any modern junk everyday of the week.
Amazing .I now want one😅
I didn"t know this technology exist. Thank god it's gone before I start to learn to drive😂😂
Pretty cool video
Fantastic to watch!!
Very good guide sir!
Awesome. How we take things for granted.👍
Such an advanced design for the 1920's!
That about covers it. The amazing thing is that they were still selling in the 50s. just.
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I'd like to have one of these. I wonder if any of these have made it to America?
Gracias por el trabajo. Bien hecho.
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Yep. Good on ya mate. I agree. I think.
Hi James nice video but i think the book says 180 cranks of the oil pump at roughly 1 every second
160 to 180 slow cranks according to my book. I’m not sure if pre-oiling or purging is the limiting factor. Modern oil has much better oil clinging than old oils so preoiling is probably not that big an issue. But scavenging the sump very important. Particularly if someone left the fuel on for any length of time. There was lots of extra things I wanted to say but the video was getting very long.
Thanks for the proper explanation, Do you have to go through the whole hot bulb procedure every time, say if you stopped for lunch?
Depending on how hot the tractor is you can shut down for about 10 minutes and then restart instantly. It is handy if you stalled it.
Excellent! Thank you.
That's insane and dangerous , thanks never seen anything like it .
The one I used on the farm started on petrol/diesel with a spark plug and once it was going swapped over to straight diesel.
Hi James , was told by a Bulldog expert many years ago not to run modern day multi grade oil as it will only spit out the exhaust , he said to only use a mineral oil from 30,40 or 50 grade , also very strange how they changed the no of priming revolutions from 180 for per war to 160-180 for post war? thanks Colin
My theory on oil is that any modern oil must be much better than the stuff they had in the 1940's. Modern oil has much better tackiness and film tenacity so the bearings do not drip-dry overnight. It also has better film strength which is good for high compression machines (which a Bulldog is not). Multi-grade oils just flow better at low temperatures which can only be a good thing. It should make the engine easier to swing in cold weather, and oil will pump to the bearings faster. I'm sure it does puke some out the exhaust, but the machine actually burns remarkably cleanly. At least until you really load it up.
For fuel I am running a 50:50 mix of sump oil and diesel. It is the same oil, just used. Valvoline 15W40 CL I think. (Not 10W40 as I said in the video.). It seems to burn it fine. I have been told that ATF works very well too.
Bulldogs are extremely low tech, low compression, slow revving, low stress machines. As long as there is something oily in there, I suspect it will be fine.
There is however, a very real issue with running modern oils in old engines that have not been rebuilt. Old engines are very likely to have a lot of sludge in them and the detergents in modern oil can free up the old sludge which then blocks pick-up screens and passages and you get oil starvation issues. If the engine internals are clean, it should not be an issue.
Who knows why they changed the manual instructions to 160-180 cranks? One of life's mysteries.
Just my two bits worth on oil.
We mix some STP sticky stuff with the oil. it reduces the spitting. One of the main problems is that the horizontal piston wears the bore slightly oval. the rings as well. If you take the piston out and don't put it back exactly as they come out then there will be more spitting. New rings is easy to put in but may actually cause more oil to spit past till the rings seat properly. However the tractor is not likely to run enough hours for that to happen.@@jamesgresham2030