GBO2 GM Sniper II: Comically underpowered?!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ก.ย. 2024
- This video is an old quick match I had with the GM Sniper II on Gundam Battle Operation 2. It is back from when my alt was only A+ so please forgive the old gameplay with poor accuracy. It is a 400 support that suffers from lack of MA break, poor damage and mediocre boosting speed. I am playing it in 500 here merely as a showcase of its loadout but I wouldn't recommend you use it outside of 400.
The Sniper II can choose from 3 primary weapons, the 75mm Sniper Rifle, Command Beam Gun or the Bullpup Machine Gun. The beam gun and machine gun offers higher damage than the sniper but comes at the cost of losing practically all of your stunning ability so it is recommended to use the sniper rifle. The sniper rifle has 1600 power, 6 ammo, 800m range, 4 seconds cooldown, 15 seconds reload and 0% stagger value. The sniper rifle has 1.5x leg damage modifier but this doesn't really make up for the complete lack of MA break ability and very low damage. The projectile from this rifle also has insanely tiny size so there is absolutely no margin for error unlike other support MS.
Its primary melee is the same as found on GM Command. It has 1850 power, 2.5 seconds cooldown, 0.77 seconds swap time and standard melee modifiers. Sniper II has balancers so it is possible to use this after a rifle shot at close range or very rarely to pull off a stunlock on targets without MA.
Its first and only sub weapon are enhanced hand grenades with 1100 power, 2.5 seconds cooldown, 3 ammo, 13 seconds reload and 50% stagger value. These have decent damage when considering type advantage and so you will be relying on them a lot to make your damage anywhere close to decent. This means that abusing the long range of the rifle is unoptimal for damage unfortunately.
Its stats and skills are a mixed bag. It has 120 walking speed which is quite high for a support but on the other hand has only 155 boosting speed which is quite low for a 400 native support. The GM Sniper Custom which starts at 300 cost has 120 walking and 160 boosting for a reference. It has access to High Performance Balancers which allows it to counter tackle more easily and enter melee more easily but this is of course quite risky for a support which prefers to keep at midrange. Unlike the much lower cost Zaku 1 Sniper, it lacks Stabilization Device and Precision Shelling which means it is easy to interrupt when crouched down and means that it is rewarded less for crouching in terms of damage.
Overall I would have to say that Sniper II is frustratingly mediocre and weak. It has a stunning rifle with fast 4 seconds cooldown and high leg damage modifier that is let down a ton by poor damage and no staggering value. It is ideally played at midrange right alongside the team for optimal damage with throwing grenades, shooting rifle and swinging the saber but other 400 supports such as Gelgoog Ground Type utterly obsolete the Sniper II in this role. I believe that it should get the same buffs which the Zaku 1 Sniper Type got. These would be buffing sniper rifle base damage (preferrably to 1900 or 2000 with +200 per level), adding precision shelling and adding stabilization device. Changing the bullpup from a primary weapon into a sub weapon similar to what the GM Dominance has would also improve its ability to do sustained damage at midrange after rifle shots. I can't really recommend you use the Sniper II if you want to play seriously but there are certainly weaker options at 400 cost which is the sad part. I hope that it gets a buff someday but with so many other suits equally deserving I wouldn't hold my breath.
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Devil May Cry 2, Cursed Giant
Dynasty Warriors Gundam 2, A Good Thing is Possible
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GBO Disrespects this boy's stats almost as hard as 0080.
Supposed to be on par or better than the RX-78 but it ends up like this in GBO2 smh
@@avenger1_gbo260 bruh it's supposed to be faster than the Gundam too.
Though there's no excuse for it in GBO2, with regards to 0080, it experienced the same issue as the standard GM during the OYW: solid specs, botched and fast-tracked pilot training.
@@Will_NegsThe GM sniper II was something of a mass produced Gundam spec unit, but there was no way it was just being handed to non-aces
They should give the Sniper II’s rifle rounds the ability to pierce like the Efreet Jaeger
This suit with just the bullpup machine gun used to mow generals down. It was my go to at both 400 and 450. Now I don't even want to use it ever since the red rider dropped. I'm glad to see some people can still use it so successfully
Now even the often criticized Eyezack does the machine gun support thing better. It seems like at every turn there is a 400 support doing the same niche but better which is really sad to see.
@@avenger1_gbo260 the majority of machine guns need to be buffed for either damage or stun build up. They're basically useless now that most people use insta stun suits.
I think ASL needs reworked or have an option to toggle it off as well. I was playing Hizack Custom the other day and trying to shoot the machine gun at someone boosting straight to the left. Every single shot missed them because the ASL was targeting where they used to be rather than where they are going to be. It makes it so you can't lead shots and be accurate even if you want to...
@@avenger1_gbo260 anything to make machine guns viable again.
This thing with a beam gun can be quite decent at times especially on smaller maps. Just pray that your frontline is covering you most of the time! Everything else about its kit is super lackluster sadly :(
(Your outro music really makes me feel nostalgic, great video 💜)
Thanks for watching!
The beam gun has pretty good damage output but its a shame that it can't really stun. A tossed grenade into a beam gun shot isn't enough to stun. The beam gun is 5% stun value short to stun after a grenade.
Best way to improve is if it goes faster, but that's likely never going to happen, and I find it funny lore wise it has a high performance backpack and yet is slower than the gundam
Ive been using this suit with the bullpup machinegun and parts to reduce ballictic reloading for the 2 weapons and ive been doing quite decent at most matches
Yeah, one of its other primary options being converted to a subweapon is the absolute least this MS deserves. About all I can say for it is that it just barely beats out the Gunner gundam in most combat scenarios. While the Gunner has better damage when it's left alone with a great line of sight, the GMII can at least use balancers to defend itself at close range
That was really fun and satisfying to watch
Thank you!
God I really love this suit but I always feel like im straight up sandbagging as a support when I play it.
Same here. I really love the playstyle and look of it but it feels hard to justify actually using it.
Thankfully we have the white dingo variant to redeem its rep.
Also in gundam evolution a good sniper can be an absolute menace.
Haven’t played in 3 years, but from my experience I’ve always dominated in the gm sniper II. Maybe it’s because of power creep, but I’ve always liked and played better in this than the gunner gundam and personally I like balancers for some good old stun locking.
Poor thing is a result of year 1 design before we have a clear and concise gameplay meta now. Even if it does get buffs its gameplay feels out of place in GBO2. Such is the GM Sniper II curse, where it's supposedly on par with Gundam types but it sucks in just about any game it's in. Good video, though. Good times.
This thing *needs* the bullpup as a subweapon.
Imagine if BB rolled out a Sniper II that had both this, the LRBR, and a Bullpup.... Great vid and handles on something that might need a revision from the devs!
Thanks for watching!
And yeah a rework or buff of some kind is definitely needed. It is sad to see already strong supports like Gelgoog Ground Type be buffed before weak ones like GM Sniper II and Gunner Gundam.
The way you just beamsabered that pilot bro 💀
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Love being ballsy and using this suit at 500 but the issue has always been at any level the limited weapons and skills it uses in a match. I would love to see the GM Sniper 3 from advance of Zeta in GBO2.
Sniper III would be really cool. It has multiple loadout options depending on what they wanna do. There is a version with the same cannon from Hizack Cannon and another with the same beam launcher as Hizack Custom.
Oh boy your in luck!
Breaking legs is my all time favorite thing to do in the gm sniper
TBH its the best strategy to use if you actually do play it. Its leg damage is equal to supports like Gelgoog Ground Type so it definitely can break them.
im excited for this game to be ported to PC, but am sad to see GM sniper ii is lack luster as my friend im dragging into getting it too loves this suit
Well there have been leaks of a new weapon for Sniper II in the game files for the PC test, so it is possible that the suit will be reworked/buffed. Decent chance your friend will be playing with a buffed version of the suit by the time the PC version actually releases.
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Every time this match ques for 400 I think about this suit but like you said I end up in gelgoog if I’m sniper support. The hit box on this thing is atrocious and you can’t do anything while sniper is down for fear of being demolished
This suit really helped me perfect my aim
That is one benefit of it I guess. The rifle projectile is so small that you really have to be dead on every single time.
@@avenger1_gbo260 yeah other than that suit is no good even though it was supposed to be an Ace pilots suit
I love the GM Sniper II, but other supports just do its job better. The Gunner Gundam, another native 400 cost support, has a beam sniper that can chunk for nearly 5k against generals and has vulcans instead of grenades. That said, the Sniper II wins in the style department in my opinion!
Gunner I am a bit disappointed with as well. 2500 damage charged shot with piercing is really nice but I wish the heat rate was a little better.
Not for long! The leaks saw the new gun for the sniper 2.
I wonder though. Will it be a new sniper II variant or a new gun for the old sniper II?
Gib it JN's sniper skill.
It would be a neat idea to give it some sort of niche
1. Get JN sniper skill
2. Equip bullpup and scope in with it
3. ?????
4. Profit?
I feel like we need Lydo Wolf’s version with that snail beam rifle as a raid version to even them out, give us a raid general and support of the suit
Me this whole video: takethepointtakethepointtakethepoint
SO WE JUS GON IGNORE #4 YASU PHASING IN AND OUT OF EXISTENCE??
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personally for me, if they add the bull pup machine gun as a second weapon instead of either sniper or machine gun, the gm sniper ii would be much better.
GM sniper custom and efreet jaeger make this thing entirely superfluous
I think the 300 cost zaku sniper from Code Fairy actually has a better sniper rifle
@@avenger1_gbo260 Yep and it has 2 of em. sniper and a burst fire mode.
One of the best spec GM designs and it feels so weak
I don't think people like the GM Sniper 2, last time try to play with it, people from my own team voluntarily kept attacking me. just down meleeing me all the time they could.
GM Sniper II is weak but often I see people just leave before the match starts rather than sticking around and griefing. You should report them if they do that to you, since they will eventually get banned for it.
Holy lag surfer 🏄♂️
Having bad lag also really hampers this Suit since your rounds just go through the opponent's legs without damaging them which always sucks
I think the projectile is so tiny that it can actually fit in the space between a suits legs. The size of the projectile might be increased in a buff like they did with Zudah F.
This thing got angry and now its the most broken suit in the game
I heard from someone that this thing on ground is good for only 2 things, snapping legs and helps building my aim
Problem with it is the Sniper Rifle.
The bullets are slow, the cooldown is slow, the reload is very slow, and the damage could be a bit better. Not a whole lot, but a smol bit.
If the bullet was as fast as Cannon shots from the Xamel or so, then it would really help with long distance gunning. But as it is now, its not that good in battle.
Still fun tho. I play with it from time to time myself. Mostly in Trenches.
honestly now days with lag it gets harder and harder to break MA. for me the best supports are either A high damage or B stun lock gods.
I find decent success with it but i agree that with its projectile size its super underpowered. Im a bigger fan of white dingo sniper and the zaku 1 sniper simply for the seemingly lower margin for error
Zaku 1 Sniper is way better in my opinion. At 400 cost the beam sniper has 2150 power so when you crouch and scope you can hit for 4000+ damage at 400 cost lol. Not to mention having a sturmfaust backup that combos directly into sniper/magella.
@@avenger1_gbo260 absolutely! I do think the gm sniper II is a “smoother” shooter but usefulness is way down
Still waiting for gm sniper 3
It would be really cool. I wonder what version of it they would add.
IT'S OUT :D
This is why I don't like the Sniper II in the game. You basically have a walking target which can only use a water gun. Horrible stats and that damage by the ballistic rifle is atrocious.
that g04 lol
For something that outperformed the Gundam on paper, the Sniper II (both versions) really aren't that good. If they gave the White Dingo version the meme rifle then it would at least be fun, but it would still fall short.
Maybe if they make a Lydo Wolf version we'll finally have a competitive Sniper II, but who knows.
Well at least Sniper II WD got a decent niche with Observational Data Link (can see enemy HP and share with team) on a general. Still could be better but its not super egregious.
I am not sure what they would do with the support version. It just seems kinda mediocre in every area so there is a lot that needs improving on to bring it up to par with others. If they do nothing else then they at least need to buff the damage on the rifle.
@@avenger1_gbo260 a rifle buff alone would make it way more playable for me at least. Maybe not as strong as the anti-ship rifle the Camouf has, but still high up there.
im using PC how to turn into sniper mode?
It is explained in the tutorial
A shame given it's by the stats full Gundam tier.
It really is unfortunate yeah. Some sources say its actually supposed to be overall superior to even the Gundam yet its slower than the 300 cost GM Sniper Custom ingame.