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In Paul's fight with Jamis, there's something you guys don't mention that I think has to be a huge factor. Paul's visions depict Jamis as a mentor and friend, but here he is in a duel with him. Not only has he never taken a life before but he tries to force him to surrender because that's what he feels he's supposed to do, in order to fulfill the vision. I can't imagine the conflicting emotions going on with him during that fight, before realizing that vision was just another false possibility
Dune it's an amazing saga, taking you on a journey through thousands of years (if you include all the books). I read Dune for the first time when I was 14 years old - Paul was always my fave character, his evolution, understanding of Arrakis as he was a native to the sand planet, the connection of spice to the sand worms...so well done. This really reminds me our Earthly issues with oil - oil is life, oil must flow, lol
53:02 Sand vibrating becomes like liquid, it's called liquefaction. Earthquakes can cause a similar effect that is a serious issue for buildings built on sand like Tokyo. Read Dune in the '70s. Awesome movie Parts 1 & now 2.
Just a slight correction, the Sardaukar aren't the criminals sent to Salusa Secundus, they're actually descendants of tribes native to the planet, the actual prisoners are the people being bled out for the ritual. the concept of the prison planet is partially because people there are trapped and rarely escape, the sardaukar themselves are survivors of conditions which kill 6 out of every 13 children of the native tribes before the age of 11, whilst the mortality rate of new prisoners is over 60%.
The Fremen are natives of Arrakis. They were the first humans on the planet and the first people born there. That is literally the definition of native/indigenous. Native: a person born in a specified place or associated with a place by birth, whether subsequently resident there or not.
@@raidersofthelostpodcast_ The Fremen would strongly disagree. As their oral traditions clearly state they are Zensunni WANDERERS from the below quoted seven planets…and prior to those, an obvious origin being Earth. The “wanderers” part being basically the CORE of their cultural and religious beliefs, they don’t consider themselves natives of Arrakis. Again, from the DUNE WIKI (but based on Brian Herbert’s statements on the issue). Note he final sentence. According to Fremen legend, the migration of the Zensunnis saw them move through the following planets: Nilotic al-Ourouba Poritrin Salusa Secundus Bela Tegeuse Rossak Harmonthep Arrakis It is clear that their migration is more complicated than their tradition states. The actual route was probably diverse and non-sequential, and was often unique to an individual or group of individuals. The only certainty is that the Wandering Zensunni have originated on Earth (with Nilotic al-Ourouba more likely than not being the Nile Valley in Africa), like all other humans.
@@raidersofthelostpodcast_ “The novel Paul of Dune (2008) by Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson establishes that the first known inhabitants of Arrakis had been the Muadru, who introduced the sandworms to the planet. They had settlements all over the galaxy which suddenly disappeared; the Zensunni Wanderers came later, ultimately becoming the Fremen. In the novel Paul notes, "There appears to be a linguistic connection between the Fremen and the Muadru."[13” That reminds me…since the entire culture of the Fremen are s based on their past enslavement…they we’re BROUGHT to Arrakis BY SLAVERS … Meaning, you guessed it, they were NOT the original humans on Arrakis…
Finally finished this episode, great work fellas!! Never heard of Dune before starting y'all's pod at the end of 2020, and can't thank you guys enough for the fantastic content and turning me on to Dune! 👏👏👏
How can a movie get nominated for 10 awards and the person who brings all these elements together not get nominated for best director? Anyway denis is probably my favourite director, all he’s movies are just amazing
Stillsuits are definitely described as gray, the phrase "gray slickness" is often used. But Frank is very sparse with such things. I think they blend into the rocks and night, which is when the Fremen usually move.
I think Denni was scared to make it too nerdy, kinda obvious a lot of the actors didn't understand the severity of their role. Tbh he made the right choice, just sucks that it comes down to pleasing the masses
Thanks for briefing the lore of Dune; makes much more sense even after five times viewing the movie. Makes me wanna read the books because I love these kinds of world building materials. Can’t wait for Dune Part 2.
Don’t know where you’re getting your information and data… but it’s well established (from turning Herbert’s ARAKIS MAP that he drew himself, into a globe) that Arakis is about the size of Earth’s MOON… NOT anywhere near the size of the Earth. Only 1/4 that size. Despite this, Arakis has 90% the Earth’s gravity. This means Arakis has a very heavy core, unlike our Moon.
And from ATLAS OF THE IMPERIUM: ARRAKIS. Arrakis is the third planet of the star Canopus, located 313.74 ly from the Imperial Capital on Kaitain (310 ly from Old Earth). Canopus is an ancient star, a white giant, having already completed its hydrogen burning phase. It is possible to likely that Canopus once had more than the planets currently visible, but the rest were swallowed up by the star’s previous expansion phases and effectively destroyed. Arrakis may have been a satellite of a larger body before being catapulted into its current orbit by the same expansion event. Arrakis is an unusually small planet, matching almost exactly in size the dimensions of Old Earth’s moon, Luna (diameter: 3,474.2 km, circumference: 10,921 km). The planet’s density is considerable, however, meaning that its mass is greater than is normal for a body of its size, giving it a gravitational field only slightly weaker than Galactic Standard at 0.9g.
Mentats came about because of a war against tech, the result of which came human specialization. "Know a Mentat from the red stained lips from the saphjuice ..." which is drunk to enable the trance of computation.
I have to confess that I was one of those that complained that it was boring. I watched it at the cinema the day it came out and I slept in between..lol. But with the hype and reviews, I decided to rent it on amazon when it became available and boy was I wrong!! I love it and it is my best movie of 2021. I think for people who do not know anything about Dune, watching it the first time especially at the cinema is a bad idea. I have seen it three times now and plan to watch it again because it gets better each time.
If all those people who claimed the movie was a drag and didn't like it because of the slow place and lenght had given the movie a second chance and watched it 2/3 times, i'm sure they would have changed their mind about it and appreciate it. It's a kind of movie that needs multiple viewings. But no...they thought one viewing was enough and totally misjudged it.
Does Avatar take inspiration from Dune? It seems like they share a similar theme of a guy who is part of the oppressors of an indigenous planet chooses their side and eventually falls in love with a girl/the culture
Frank Herbert refers to an intergalactic empire in Dune but I do agree that it makes more sense that it's interstellar. In 1965 when it was written, few people realized how big the universe actually is. The closest galaxy to the Milky Way is Andromeda and it's over 2.0mil light years away. The size of the universe is mind-boggling and most everyone agrees it's expanding at an incredible rate.
I love the review but I just can’t get past the way he says “Mo-Jayv” desert at about the 24:40 mark. As a Spanish word, the J (edit: in Mojave) is pronounced as an H, and the E is not silent, making it the “Mo-Hah-Vey” desert. It’s a beautiful place well worth visiting. (Edit: Three places worth mentioning are: 1: Red Rock Canyon National Conservation Area, just a half hour away from the Las Vegas Strip, 2: Ash Meadows National Wildlife Refuge, the largest oasis in the Mojave Desert, home to endemic flora and fauna found here, and nowhere else on earth, and 3: Death Valley National Park, a 3 hour drive from Las Vegas, home to the lowest place in the Western Hemisphere and the hottest place on Earth. I’ve been to all 3 places, and they are magical!)
This definitely cleared up a lot of things I missed in the book! It is a difficult read but worth it. The movie is so well done. Who are your favourite characters besides Paul?
Missed this at the cinema, but wow 🤩 flipping wow watched this at home, lights down and full sound up. Absolutely brilliant. Now to listen to you great guys pod 👍🥂
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In Paul's fight with Jamis, there's something you guys don't mention that I think has to be a huge factor. Paul's visions depict Jamis as a mentor and friend, but here he is in a duel with him. Not only has he never taken a life before but he tries to force him to surrender because that's what he feels he's supposed to do, in order to fulfill the vision. I can't imagine the conflicting emotions going on with him during that fight, before realizing that vision was just another false possibility
Yea! We explained it more in our Dune 2 episodes
Am I at work right now? Yes. Will I play the video on my second screen? Yes.
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Me too lol
Hell yes
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Dune it's an amazing saga, taking you on a journey through thousands of years (if you include all the books). I read Dune for the first time when I was 14 years old - Paul was always my fave character, his evolution, understanding of Arrakis as he was a native to the sand planet, the connection of spice to the sand worms...so well done.
This really reminds me our Earthly issues with oil - oil is life, oil must flow, lol
Thank you for making all of our mondays that much better. I read the book in a month because of you guys 😉
Thanks!! Glad you read it!
53:02 Sand vibrating becomes like liquid, it's called liquefaction.
Earthquakes can cause a similar effect that is a serious issue for buildings built on sand like Tokyo.
Read Dune in the '70s. Awesome movie Parts 1 & now 2.
Just a slight correction, the Sardaukar aren't the criminals sent to Salusa Secundus, they're actually descendants of tribes native to the planet, the actual prisoners are the people being bled out for the ritual. the concept of the prison planet is partially because people there are trapped and rarely escape, the sardaukar themselves are survivors of conditions which kill 6 out of every 13 children of the native tribes before the age of 11, whilst the mortality rate of new prisoners is over 60%.
Ohhh amazing thanks for the info 🙌
Careful of the use of the word “native.” They did not evolve on that planet. Humans are ONLY native to Earth.
The Fremen are natives of Arrakis. They were the first humans on the planet and the first people born there. That is literally the definition of native/indigenous. Native: a person born in a specified place or associated with a place by birth, whether subsequently resident there or not.
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The Fremen would strongly disagree. As their oral traditions clearly state they are Zensunni WANDERERS from the below quoted seven planets…and prior to those, an obvious origin being Earth. The “wanderers” part being basically the CORE of their cultural and religious beliefs, they don’t consider themselves natives of Arrakis.
Again, from the DUNE WIKI (but based on Brian Herbert’s statements on the issue). Note he final sentence.
According to Fremen legend, the migration of the Zensunnis saw them move through the following planets:
Nilotic al-Ourouba
Poritrin
Salusa Secundus
Bela Tegeuse
Rossak
Harmonthep
Arrakis
It is clear that their migration is more complicated than their tradition states. The actual route was probably diverse and non-sequential, and was often unique to an individual or group of individuals. The only certainty is that the Wandering Zensunni have originated on Earth (with Nilotic al-Ourouba more likely than not being the Nile Valley in Africa), like all other humans.
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“The novel Paul of Dune (2008) by Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson establishes that the first known inhabitants of Arrakis had been the Muadru, who introduced the sandworms to the planet. They had settlements all over the galaxy which suddenly disappeared; the Zensunni Wanderers came later, ultimately becoming the Fremen. In the novel Paul notes, "There appears to be a linguistic connection between the Fremen and the Muadru."[13”
That reminds me…since the entire culture of the Fremen are s based on their past enslavement…they we’re BROUGHT to Arrakis BY SLAVERS … Meaning, you guessed it, they were NOT the original humans on Arrakis…
Finally finished this episode, great work fellas!! Never heard of Dune before starting y'all's pod at the end of 2020, and can't thank you guys enough for the fantastic content and turning me on to Dune! 👏👏👏
Thanks Cale!! 🙌🙌🪐🪐
Thank you guys for the tickets to watch this movie; can't wait for Part 2, and funny enough it's my birthday.
Amazing! 🙌🙌
How can a movie get nominated for 10 awards and the person who brings all these elements together not get nominated for best director? Anyway denis is probably my favourite director, all he’s movies are just amazing
Beyond shocked honestly
Stillsuits are definitely described as gray, the phrase "gray slickness" is often used. But Frank is very sparse with such things. I think they blend into the rocks and night, which is when the Fremen usually move.
For sure
I'm excited to see how they do Alia and Feyd-Routha
Same!
They smashed it out of the fucking park
The most underrated movie of the last decade. It's amazing. Stunning. Powerful. Other-wordly. Mind-blowing. Most people are blind...
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Excellent work!
Thank you!!!
I think Denni was scared to make it too nerdy, kinda obvious a lot of the actors didn't understand the severity of their role. Tbh he made the right choice, just sucks that it comes down to pleasing the masses
Good point
I’ve been waiting for this
I love dune best movie of 2021 for sure
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It’s official ! I have now seen all of your guys videos ! … one love homies 🖤 PEACE
YOU ARE AMAZING!!
Your intro just made me realize that the flash light is just a mini-worm
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Thanks for briefing the lore of Dune; makes much more sense even after five times viewing the movie. Makes me wanna read the books because I love these kinds of world building materials. Can’t wait for Dune Part 2.
Happy to help!
The 90's toy is called a Skip-It hahah
THANK YOU!!!!
Don’t know where you’re getting your information and data… but it’s well established (from turning Herbert’s ARAKIS MAP that he drew himself, into a globe) that Arakis is about the size of Earth’s MOON… NOT anywhere near the size of the Earth. Only 1/4 that size. Despite this, Arakis has 90% the Earth’s gravity. This means Arakis has a very heavy core, unlike our Moon.
Stop putting a second R in Thufir’s name…there’s only one.
And from ATLAS OF THE IMPERIUM: ARRAKIS.
Arrakis is the third planet of the star Canopus, located 313.74 ly from the Imperial Capital on Kaitain (310 ly from Old Earth). Canopus is an ancient star, a white giant, having already completed its hydrogen burning phase. It is possible to likely that Canopus once had more than the planets currently visible, but the rest were swallowed up by the star’s previous expansion phases and effectively destroyed. Arrakis may have been a satellite of a larger body before being catapulted into its current orbit by the same expansion event.
Arrakis is an unusually small planet, matching almost exactly in size the dimensions of Old Earth’s moon, Luna (diameter: 3,474.2 km, circumference: 10,921 km). The planet’s density is considerable, however, meaning that its mass is greater than is normal for a body of its size, giving it a gravitational field only slightly weaker than Galactic Standard at 0.9g.
Mentats came about because of a war against tech, the result of which came human specialization. "Know a Mentat from the red stained lips from the saphjuice ..." which is drunk to enable the trance of computation.
More than 2 hours long!
Lets go!!!
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I said that it was called ”raiders or there lost” because on that episode the title was spelled incorrectly 😂
😂😂 oh snap didn’t even notice that
I have to confess that I was one of those that complained that it was boring. I watched it at the cinema the day it came out and I slept in between..lol. But with the hype and reviews, I decided to rent it on amazon when it became available and boy was I wrong!! I love it and it is my best movie of 2021. I think for people who do not know anything about Dune, watching it the first time especially at the cinema is a bad idea. I have seen it three times now and plan to watch it again because it gets better each time.
If all those people who claimed the movie was a drag and didn't like it because of the slow place and lenght had given the movie a second chance and watched it 2/3 times, i'm sure they would have changed their mind about it and appreciate it. It's a kind of movie that needs multiple viewings. But no...they thought one viewing was enough and totally misjudged it.
Does Avatar take inspiration from Dune? It seems like they share a similar theme of a guy who is part of the oppressors of an indigenous planet chooses their side and eventually falls in love with a girl/the culture
Oh absolutely!
One point about the Baron and his weight is he got that that way cause he wronged That Reverend Mother and she did that to him.
Great point
16:00 everytime I hear it I just get more excited. Oppenheimer is probably one of my most excited movies
For real!
The interstellar empire of Dune is located in our Milky Way, in our future (and not in a galaxy far away, a long time ago...).
Got it thanks!
Frank Herbert refers to an intergalactic empire in Dune but I do agree that it makes more sense that it's interstellar. In 1965 when it was written, few people realized how big the universe actually is. The closest galaxy to the Milky Way is Andromeda and it's over 2.0mil light years away. The size of the universe is mind-boggling and most everyone agrees it's expanding at an incredible rate.
@@bernbsy great point 🪐🪐
I love the review but I just can’t get past the way he says “Mo-Jayv” desert at about the 24:40 mark. As a Spanish word, the J (edit: in Mojave) is pronounced as an H, and the E is not silent, making it the “Mo-Hah-Vey” desert. It’s a beautiful place well worth visiting. (Edit: Three places worth mentioning are: 1: Red Rock Canyon National Conservation Area, just a half hour away from the Las Vegas Strip, 2: Ash Meadows National Wildlife Refuge, the largest oasis in the Mojave Desert, home to endemic flora and fauna found here, and nowhere else on earth, and 3: Death Valley National Park, a 3 hour drive from Las Vegas, home to the lowest place in the Western Hemisphere and the hottest place on Earth. I’ve been to all 3 places, and they are magical!)
Desert Power !!!
Been waiting on this one 🔥🔥
This definitely cleared up a lot of things I missed in the book! It is a difficult read but worth it. The movie is so well done. Who are your favourite characters besides Paul?
Glad it helped Olivia! Besides Paul, I really like Stilgar and Duncan. I can’t wait for Stilgar in part 2, he’ll be a main character 👏🏻👏🏻
For me it's Lady Jessica for sure, especially in the movie. I like a lot Ferguson's performance.
@@natzbarney4504 she was the best actor for sure
Duncan, Dr Kynes & Stilgar…..Heck they’re all amazing and should have had more screen time…..Bring out a 10 hour edition 😂
@@PsyCygnet YES
Since when you announced that you were going to do a deep dive into dune I’ve been waiting for this video for like forever
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Waiting for Dune episode like 👨 👴 💀. 👍🏻
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Just rented Dune from Red Box! Now I have to read the book sometime.
Are the other books worth reading?
Awesome! Princess Of Mars is another great sci-fi book
no ,.....,.no...your not right
Missed this at the cinema, but wow 🤩 flipping wow watched this at home, lights down and full sound up. Absolutely brilliant. Now to listen to you great guys pod 👍🥂
Hell yeah!! Appreciate it 🤝
Who do you guys fancast fot part 2?
Gary Oldman as the Emperor
That was great.Thank you
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I guess this episode was inevitable!! 😆
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It's Dune 'o clock
That’s what we’re Dune
Finally!
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Best director working easy. Tarantino will always be my favorite but the two aren’t really comparable.
Very different filmmakers for sure
why did paul take the sleepimg pills tho?
Because he trusted his family doctor’s opinion
LFG
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2 hours WHAAAAATT 🥳🥳🥳🥳🙌🏻🙌🏻
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You guys are twins? 😳
Identical!
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Hell nah
I just came to comment, no it isn't.
At 24:45, is that really how you pronounce Mojave or is it an inside joke? (Finger hovering over unsubscribe)
Probably a mistake, same with emirates. Calm down.
@@analbiff5000 level up your joke detection and take your own advice ma dude
Garbage 1/2 film
4/10 on IMDb , or it would be if the 10/10 shilling were removed.
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