Is this supposed to be one of the harder missions? When I played through El Cid I felt this was one of the easier ones, and I'm quite bad at the game as I struggled with a few of the other ones.
this particular mission is kinda weird when it comes to difficulty. The AI is kinda ... not that clever so I feel that this mission is easier than it feels. Also, Conqs are a thing :D
There were no glitches in particular. The archers pathway on the cliff might be, but it seems to be just an aoe pathfinding thing. :-) You are supposed to flee from the first village. After they destroyed it, they always go on attacking your main base, but that is only true for their first attack group. As soon as you've taken controll of the main base, they will attack it form their main base with bombard cannons etc as well. Sometimes they go directly for the wonder, if you're unlucky. In your case it seems that they headed towards your second towncenter.
Viper doing it right again. Epilogue tells about Count Berenguer locked away in Valencia's Dungeons. And theViper wiped his "impenetrable" fortress off the map. How fitting.
As I recall, the Ai wants to destroy green, then the first army moves down and attacks orange. That is why the AI is bugging I think. Its trying to kill orange and running into your second TC
Thank you viper! you helped me win this in DE. I was having so much trouble trying to do this the way you are supposed to. but if you save the first town you have so much more map control. and they want to attack you in multiple places rather than just at the wonder location.
Na Viper, it was that Spanish vil taking down a cavalier 11. I do think it might have been glitched as I played it on Moderate the other day and they attacked me soon after I had started making army in the main base you get. I did this mission by spamming monks and converting their paladins from inside my walls, then using the paladins to fight their siege.
The army that attacks your first village is also the one the ai uses for its first attack. If you defeat it at the village you get a long time to build up.
im happy he didnt flee, unless if it glitched, better if it didnt, but i enjoy watching things that arent just mainstream, otherwise i might aswell just watch a recorded game of someone silently playing it as '' normal ''
I think the purple army that attacked you in the beggining was supposed to kill all of the green and orange stuff and attack your town afterwards (they had so many siege weapons after all). That's why it seemed like you didn't get attacked for such a long time and when the next waves came, green and orange building were their priority target (there is probably a trigger for the purple army to give you a little bit of time to build up your defences), otherwise they would have gone straight for the wonder.
The initial army they sent to the first town ends up going to Valencia, as well as those archers that were glitched out on that cliff near the other town. Then there are continued waves of Cavalier/Paladin followed by siege. I lost when a treb razed the wonder very early in it's construction because I went straight to Valencia and all the starting units and waves went straight there like they're supposed to. Still not a terribly difficult mission, but it is indeed slightly tougher when you're not The Viper.
Okay, this confirms it. AoE HD campaign is definitely easier than disc version. Even with Viper's skills this mission was easier than it should've been.
Viper: "I hope I haven't broken the game doing this." Me: "Oh I wonder if I can break the game this way?" Can confirm the game still breaks in DE if you save the first town.
Pretty sure its glitched because normally this scenario is actually a bit difficult, you get attacked non-stop at your main base. The first city was supposed to die.
I keep getting destroyed in this mission, so I thought I checked TH-cam to see how it's supposed to be played. Realised as soon as you defeated the army in the first town, the one I fled away from like a chicken, that this is probably not how the developers meant it to be played :P :P
When AI came to take down my temple, I walled all of them in and then continued to wall myself in further and created a bunch of conquistadors. Worked haha
I usually place a farm before the second the wonder spawns to play this campaign like a build and destroy, and yes defending that town is very possible and it has a lot of wood around it. orange markets for gold and then get to post imperial age and make a lot of units and start bringing down their towers castles stables and all other of their buildings.
I think you glitched it a bit, because purple still tried to get to the first city. And the army was standing next to the cliff, because it couldn't be produced where purple's initial forces were spawned, forest and river blocked the access to the buildings you later deleted. But from then it all went as it should. AI is just too easy for you to beat.
I think they fixed it, tried it, saved the town, but the archers bugged over the wall into the town and the green gate (has some importance) was deleted after i got the new to the new town. purple then sent 4 cavs and a swordsman to green through the top of greens base but i converted those and purple attacked the wonder like normal........ maybe needs further testing to see if maybe its the donkey monk discovery? maybe if I walled against purples cavs so they would neither die or destroy? idk, i'll try and re-create your outcome it for a speed run/cheese strat
I guess u just boomed quicker and defeated starting army so ai did not spammed units correctly, it was pretty same for me but harder cause I’m much slower under pressure, great job tho!
I failed this mission like 7 times in a row because they kept going straight for the wonder with a ton of trebs and bombards and I couldn't attack them since they were under their towers
Making a monk and converting the knights from the initial army.. No wonder he had that many knights to defend his city at the first attack. I got stuck on gold sooo hard
Would be great to see how you manage the proper campaign AI. These campaigns are meant to be hard. WIth AI not attacking most of the time, the fun is gone. E.g. there is no way the knights would not attack your vills at 8:24
yea it was clitched, they will desroy those 2 towns and attack before you will get your eco fully rolling, they should trebucket your walls. But this is HD so maybe it's clitched anyway also
I like when the scenario gets beat by Viper, but it would be nice to see it again the way it's supposed to play out. @Viper, please don't worry about how long it takes. These are very enjoyable regardless of time.
You may have glitched those archers at the beginning, but when i played, they completely destroyed that town and then didnt attack me at all after, so maybe its just the campaign.
I think all the original campaigns have glitched AI. They should be sending stream of units on you, but now they just send few units at start and even those units are bugged as they are attacting only their preset target and have problems to change to new one.
Yeah I had such problems with The Forgotten campaigns. At some point AI spams lots of units, I'm about to lose and suddenly they just stop producing, I mean they still do some but just a fraction of what they did previously. It was long time ago though, perhaps they have fixed it by now.
These scenarios were not made for his level. That seems about right honestly. It's just that I cower in the city and weather the increasing attacks, he is out Fighting them in route. Oh and converting a small army of knights to start for free that I didn't have.
dont you all guys agree its the hardest mission from all AOK+conquerors campaign? but i see from HD its easier a bit, on normal conquerors original they destroy my city with trebs and cannons and i cant do nothing
Viper managed to defeat the initial Count Berenguer army...
What normal ppl read: "Defend the base"
What Viper reads: "Attack enemy base" grassViper
Offense is the best defense. ^^
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"Do not attack count Berg.... his area is virtually impenetrable"...... Viper is like "virtually impenetrable!! my ass"
These campaigns should have a Viper mode where the voice-over uses reverse psychology.
"yeah go fight them you can win they just scrubs anyway 11"
but the army is like 100 fully upgraded cataphracts or something
Typical Viper, beating the purpose of the instruction.
Also Viper, if it is true that the scenario bugged, can you redo it and follow the instruction ...
Cant you just flee like all normal people did in this mission?!
Never! 11
I used their mongonels to kill all their knights and rams and killed them all with just the cid running around.
Never! because he's Batman!
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Is this supposed to be one of the harder missions? When I played through El Cid I felt this was one of the easier ones, and I'm quite bad at the game as I struggled with a few of the other ones.
"Virtually Impenetrable" #clearly
Keyword being "virtually".
"We have heard of the Cid's piety and will join his service"
I don't know if they have heard the extent of this Cid's... piety
we are but pilgrims in an unholy land my boy lenny face
"I felt like this campaign was quite easy" I honestly HATED this mission! the non-stop onslaught of troops, barely scraping by with my resources.
this particular mission is kinda weird when it comes to difficulty. The AI is kinda ... not that clever so I feel that this mission is easier than it feels. Also, Conqs are a thing :D
he defeated the initial enemy army which made the rest easy
There were no glitches in particular. The archers pathway on the cliff might be, but it seems to be just an aoe pathfinding thing. :-) You are supposed to flee from the first village. After they destroyed it, they always go on attacking your main base, but that is only true for their first attack group. As soon as you've taken controll of the main base, they will attack it form their main base with bombard cannons etc as well. Sometimes they go directly for the wonder, if you're unlucky. In your case it seems that they headed towards your second towncenter.
He destroyed more of his buildings than Berenguer could.
I've been waiting for this video 46 years.
Have you ever noticed that every time Viper wants to do something crazy he says lets do it for science.
TheViper has heard our prayers once again. All hail da Snake King
Can't wait for the Quetzalcoatl jokes in the Montezuma campaign.
forgingiron123 I am playing that right now, but can't really see those jokes. Could you enlighten me on that?
Well I assume that it has something to do with Quetzalcoatl being basicaly a flying serpent god?
*snek
El Cid turn this town red
lol I love how Viper breaks the game all the time, by doing the exact opposite of what the developers thought you should do
Passed down to you by Biper, king of AoE2
Viper doing it right again. Epilogue tells about Count Berenguer locked away in Valencia's Dungeons. And theViper wiped his "impenetrable" fortress off the map. How fitting.
As I recall, the Ai wants to destroy green, then the first army moves down and attacks orange. That is why the AI is bugging I think. Its trying to kill orange and running into your second TC
Thank you viper! you helped me win this in DE. I was having so much trouble trying to do this the way you are supposed to. but if you save the first town you have so much more map control. and they want to attack you in multiple places rather than just at the wonder location.
Only TheViper can take on that army attacking Denia
i am so gald its back, missed it so much
Viper: "I should do this (hand cart) long time ago"........doesn't do it. Ever!
Na Viper, it was that Spanish vil taking down a cavalier 11. I do think it might have been glitched as I played it on Moderate the other day and they attacked me soon after I had started making army in the main base you get. I did this mission by spamming monks and converting their paladins from inside my walls, then using the paladins to fight their siege.
a hold out mission have just turned into a wipe everything map
AW YISS. MUTHA. FUCKIN. CAMPAIGNS.
They would have just attacked you earlier,if you hadn't defend it. :)
"Know when to run away"
Viper: takes every fight
The army that attacks your first village is also the one the ai uses for its first attack. If you defeat it at the village you get a long time to build up.
I WAITED FOR THIS SO LONG
weee missed you Viperrrr 💕
oh hell yes
im happy he didnt flee, unless if it glitched, better if it didnt, but i enjoy watching things that arent just mainstream, otherwise i might aswell just watch a recorded game of someone silently playing it as '' normal ''
I think the purple army that attacked you in the beggining was supposed to kill all of the green and orange stuff and attack your town afterwards (they had so many siege weapons after all). That's why it seemed like you didn't get attacked for such a long time and when the next waves came, green and orange building were their priority target (there is probably a trigger for the purple army to give you a little bit of time to build up your defences), otherwise they would have gone straight for the wonder.
14:40 path finding hack #clearly
27:08 wth man you had two gates and even then you delete your wall 11
this is mutch tougher actually. they attack right after you find valencia
The initial army they sent to the first town ends up going to Valencia, as well as those archers that were glitched out on that cliff near the other town. Then there are continued waves of Cavalier/Paladin followed by siege. I lost when a treb razed the wonder very early in it's construction because I went straight to Valencia and all the starting units and waves went straight there like they're supposed to. Still not a terribly difficult mission, but it is indeed slightly tougher when you're not The Viper.
Okay, this confirms it. AoE HD campaign is definitely easier than disc version. Even with Viper's skills this mission was easier than it should've been.
Viper: "I hope I haven't broken the game doing this."
Me: "Oh I wonder if I can break the game this way?"
Can confirm the game still breaks in DE if you save the first town.
30:35 the purple trebuchet shot that killed the poor woman :O Cracking shot though :D
I love the way you play! you are one stubborn age of empires general, but very damn good
19:55 supreme spanish viliger
Pretty sure its glitched because normally this scenario is actually a bit difficult, you get attacked non-stop at your main base. The first city was supposed to die.
That was beautifully played
man I can't even describe how I've missed these episodes :)
5:19 that moment when you go "OH SHIT"
Viper is like : "bitch im el cid the conqueror Ima take your town Count Berenguer and then let you suffer 10 minutes while I finish my wonder xD"
The first wave of attack when building the wonder was supposed to go to the wonders...
I keep getting destroyed in this mission, so I thought I checked TH-cam to see how it's supposed to be played.
Realised as soon as you defeated the army in the first town, the one I fled away from like a chicken, that this is probably not how the developers meant it to be played :P :P
Yes! El Cid campaign!
HE'S BACK
sooooo that list... are ALL the campaigns on that it?
When AI came to take down my temple, I walled all of them in and then continued to wall myself in further and created a bunch of conquistadors. Worked haha
could not click fast enough
Ahh~~ Conquistadors~~ Praise the lord~~
Damn I laughed so hard I even spewed out my dinner LOL
This is like Christmas!
welcome back viper, hope your trip was a peasant one, now get busy...lol
13:33 you can convert with monks the cannon towers using 4 monks per tower and El Cid to keep them bussy shooting up and down.
I usually place a farm before the second the wonder spawns to play this campaign like a build and destroy, and yes defending that town is very possible and it has a lot of wood around it. orange markets for gold and then get to post imperial age and make a lot of units and start bringing down their towers castles stables and all other of their buildings.
When you do the Battles of the Conquerors, what order will you do them in?
I think you glitched it a bit, because purple still tried to get to the first city. And the army was standing next to the cliff, because it couldn't be produced where purple's initial forces were spawned, forest and river blocked the access to the buildings you later deleted. But from then it all went as it should. AI is just too easy for you to beat.
I don't remember much about this campaign but the next one is hard. At least for me when I was a kid
I think they fixed it, tried it, saved the town, but the archers bugged over the wall into the town and the green gate (has some importance) was deleted after i got the new to the new town. purple then sent 4 cavs and a swordsman to green through the top of greens base but i converted those and purple attacked the wonder like normal........ maybe needs further testing to see if maybe its the donkey monk discovery? maybe if I walled against purples cavs so they would neither die or destroy? idk, i'll try and re-create your outcome it for a speed run/cheese strat
No glitches, but I believe your castles and TCs distracted the enemy from attacking the Wonder
Al fin weon! Ya era hora xd
never clicked away from porn so fast Kappa
Vipergasm @14:39 lollllll
The objective was to Defend from Berenguer not Defeat Berenguer, but then again Snek don't read.
I defended the town too, but had a hard time later with resources and stuff
It's been 84 years...
34:20 Viva El Cid!
I guess u just boomed quicker and defeated starting army so ai did not spammed units correctly, it was pretty same for me but harder cause I’m much slower under pressure, great job tho!
11:50 who new Valencia was inhabited by Italians 11
they were going for your second TC
I failed this mission like 7 times in a row because they kept going straight for the wonder with a ton of trebs and bombards and I couldn't attack them since they were under their towers
Making a monk and converting the knights from the initial army.. No wonder he had that many knights to defend his city at the first attack. I got stuck on gold sooo hard
5:25 Vaaat??
Finally back from your holidays and the trip to germany? :D Welcome back
Would be great to see how you manage the proper campaign AI. These campaigns are meant to be hard. WIth AI not attacking most of the time, the fun is gone. E.g. there is no way the knights would not attack your vills at 8:24
I would have taken down his mountain fortress just to make a point
Yeah when I played this on CD I got f-ing wrecked.
the answer to did u glich is yes cause u meant to flee the first bace and no if u kill them that woks too
I'm Batman!
yea it was clitched, they will desroy those 2 towns and attack before you will get your eco fully rolling, they should trebucket your walls. But this is HD so maybe it's clitched anyway also
Never got pass this campaign, this is one of the hardest I have played :D
Nice!
I like when the scenario gets beat by Viper, but it would be nice to see it again the way it's supposed to play out. @Viper, please don't worry about how long it takes. These are very enjoyable regardless of time.
It was about fucking time, :D
You may have glitched those archers at the beginning, but when i played, they completely destroyed that town and then didnt attack me at all after, so maybe its just the campaign.
it's the game version, only here that bug happens where the AI moves it's units in a weird way and doesn't attack you
Oh shit, it's Batman!
I think all the original campaigns have glitched AI. They should be sending stream of units on you, but now they just send few units at start and even those units are bugged as they are attacting only their preset target and have problems to change to new one.
Yeah I had such problems with The Forgotten campaigns. At some point AI spams lots of units, I'm about to lose and suddenly they just stop producing, I mean they still do some but just a fraction of what they did previously. It was long time ago though, perhaps they have fixed it by now.
These scenarios were not made for his level. That seems about right honestly. It's just that I cower in the city and weather the increasing attacks, he is out Fighting them in route. Oh and converting a small army of knights to start for free that I didn't have.
Best comment ever 5:19
OOOOOH
FINALLY !!
Finally! Ohhh, have i been waiting! less than 3
how do u speed up ?
dont you all guys agree its the hardest mission from all AOK+conquerors campaign? but i see from HD its easier a bit, on normal conquerors original they destroy my city with trebs and cannons and i cant do nothing
U gliched it buddy
omg finally! liked already but can only watch later
Finally!!!!! miss this series
PogChamp
you should replay them in the original game HD is bugged