Gaming translator here. Big companies like Nintendo translate as they develop, so sometimes things are scrapped from the game in later development. They make you sign that long of an NDA in case they use those ideas in other games. Small titles like indies usually ask if you want to be in the credits. I've translated games for 3 years now and I only appear in Bread & Fred's credits.
I'm sorry that's so bogus. Can you explain the reason? Is it really out of fear for work or ideas being stolen? Or is there more to it that I don't understand?
@@GU__NIit’s not even about reading. A lot of big companies do this to varying degrees. Can’t really get it off it. Some fortunately don’t, but you can’t always choose what job you get in the creative industry
The COD poll shows just how much Spawn Wave viewers differ from the "mainstream". If anything, it should be a reminder that the "internet's" opinion is far from "everyone's" opinion.
The second you watch a gaming podcast or TH-camr you’re no longer part of the “mainstream” They don’t participate in anything beyond just gaming. They don’t follow news outside of social media. The mainstream owns 1 console and buys the same 1-3 gamers per year. (CoD, Madden, Just Dance, Assassins Creed)
@@jarde1989I feel like mainstream now just means Fortnite (This is coming from a person who hasn’t played Fortnite and hasn’t bought a COD since world at war so take this with a grain of salt I guess)
tbh, im surprised cod is still "popular" i dont know anyone who plays cod, or has in recent years. I thought most people realized it was just another AAA scam, minimal effort, maximum monetization. i always call it the FIFA of shooters (thats not a compliment)
@@M_CFVmw3 was the top selling game last month and for the year so yes they're all staying on the ship... everyone crying about cod being garbage has had literally no effect whatsoever
DO people skip game credits? These days, there’s often something interesting going on during the credits, whether new music and art, or the ability to control your character or a camera in some way. Plus, if you skip, you may miss something after them. Maybe I’m in the minority.
I do it out of habit. When I went to the movies as a kid, we would sit through the end credits of every film. This was back when no one had anything to show during the credits. The trailer for Back to the Future 3 showing up at the end of the second movie was a huge deal.
@@Fidelis1776 Yeah, good point. I mean, I don't actually 'read' the credits to a game, but I definitely sit through them. I've just accomplished something, and I want to get everything out of it that the game has to offer after winning.
I always watch the game credits. I often like the swell of music during it. I tend to think it's rude to skip it because I was a game bug tester for a brief period and with that.. I feel it's odd to not at least sit and see the names that helped contribute to a game.
That sucks about crediting is still a problem. The first video game Easter egg was a credit. I work as a Sign Language Interpreter. When doing Virtual Relay Service (VRS) our names are often hidden for our protection. But regardless our faces are there. By the nature of Sign Language our faces are there. I am sorry this happens to Verbal Language.
When your flagship series is almost being forgotten.... that's a problem. Halo from people who made Fusion Frenzy and thought Master Chief wasn't that important for the series.... Yeah...
Buddy of mine left Rockstar before Read Dead 1 released. He did not get a credit. Years later he worked for Double Eleven and got his name in the credits of the port, despite leaving Double Eleven a few months before that version of the game came out
I usually won't bother with a game without achievements, I really like seeing that my time went towards something so that I don't feel like I wasted my time. There are a few exceptions, but it definitely is a factor on if I care about a game or not
I don't think you will play as link at all. The way that rating discription read was 'in the past you played as link using swords and arrows, in this one you play as Zelda using etc.'
bad move from Nintendo. localizers should be credited so the consumers who care will know who are the bad apples if the localizations end up being terrible
as a dedicated .hack fan. im glad to see spawn wave covering this news about this. Unfortunately CC2 has stated and told us many times in magazines and interviews about upcoming .hack games/ remasters and its exactly like he's said before which is you have to tell Bandai Namco that we want this game by voicing this decision. Now how do we do this when the most recent game was a remaster from recent 10 years is and its always on sale for like 5-10$ is hard to do. .Hack paved the way for isekai into games genre. it does supersede even the SAO website and comics that came around 2001 with a manga being first shown at mangacon back in the late 90's. .Hack is the Pioneer we deserve a .Hack remaster or new entry.
60-80 hours of work for 40 hours of pay, sexual harassment, toxic work environment, relationship/marital problems, depression, stress beyond stress, no recognition, etc.... Why do people want to be game programmers again?
The reason movie credits are so long is because they probably have union contracts that insist they get credit for their work. Since it’s a comparable industry (many diverse technical workers ), the game industry needs to form a Union or Guild to negotiate standard contracts that cover this and many other industry abuses. Ownership will never do the right thing they need to be pressured / forced.
The Call of Duty Franchise isn’t the same anymore. I miss how the game was on PS3 and 360, when you actually had your best good at the game vs just swiping your credit card to get the best weapons
It is the same, you're just glazing over nostalgia bias as does everybody when it comes to long running series. "The old game was better" "the first season was better" "the original toys were better" it's the same you're just bored of the same which is making you hate but your bias is based off when it was "new" to you.
@@byronbarrientos8471 No. Some of my fondest CoD MP memories was grinding out things like the red tigerstripe skins for my guns. Each skin meant something, it was an accomplishment much like armor in Halo 3. Now they mean nothing but that you pulled out your credit card and are bad with money.
@@byronbarrientos8471 You know, just cause something is new doesn't mean it's better. Things get worse or better, that's life. COD use to be games, now it's a service. If your ok with that it's cool.
I am so confused at why Nintendo still refuses to port the Wii version of Punch Out to the switch. It would be the perfect platform for that game and I would buy a physical copy in an instant.
@@adammcdonald3385 lol, I am just curious to see why he/she thinks it's confusing? Unless maybe it is because I made a random comment about the game and the video has nothing to do with Punch Out. But it involves Nintendo so I dunno lol.
Wonder if the original didn’t sell well enough for them to easily justify even a simple port. But Nintendo will also sit on games that would definitely sell well so who knows. 😅 sometimes I think they care more about the cadence of releases a little too much and will drag out the release of certain titles just to make sure they have a consistent release schedule.
Seems to me Nintendo doesn’t want you to build your portfolio or expand your horizons so that you’re always just there waiting for when they need you for the next project
I’m tired of Nintendo when they flopped with the wii u they were nice to everyone and practically begging for attention from everyone. Now they think they won’t fail again… but they already have.
Have been working in translation/localization for almost two decades and that is exactly how it works as an independent. You get no credit and you get hit with NDAs and you can bet your ass that there are some companies like Nintendo and others that I would never dare break an NDA.
I love achievements and do wish there was an achievement thing on Switch at times... but then I recall a bygone era where they didn't exist and enjoy the purity of just enjoying the game for what it is. But main reason I like achievements is sometimes they point you towards Easter eggs and other things you might have otherwise not ran across or experienced in the game. And other times it's just nice to get acknowledged for beating or collecting hard to get to things.
Spawn Wave, I’m surprised you haven’t talked about EA College Football 25. It’s been 11 years since NCAA 14 and there was a lot of hype for this game. It wasn’t just considered a Madden reskin… Anyways great content as always.
John is glossing over the single good part of the current Amazon Fire Stick. The Wifi 6E means that at relatively close distance to a standard wifi router(~40 ft) it can get the same speed as LAN cables. In my personal case, its an average of 55 MBps.
Credits are weird because, as an example I finished SMT VV yesterday, and people like accountants and such are credited? And twice because also includes the staff of the OG game, but is 95% the same people, and then you have credits where people who are more directly involve in the game are not? Again is so weird.
without accountants those team will just run their budget to the ground and fail to finish making the game because of not having money anymore, when all you have are programmers, vanillaware and their constant running out of money and the president having to fork over personal money is what you get
I’ve been saying for a long while now Square should just sell Xenogears to Nintendo so Monolith Soft can remake it. Instead they’re taking the “that’s my IP to sit on and do nothing with!” route.
It’s great that people start talking about how these big companies outright refuse to put translators’ names in credits. I work as a video game translator, and it’s ridiculous how many high profile games from major publishers just completely omit our entire team’s names from the credits after spending months or even years on these projects.
@@alpsyo608 the issue is that getting in the credits is how you get more work, and it doesn’t cost anything to the company to credit people who give months of their life to these projects. Especially considering how many other people ARE getting credited in those rolls who had minimal to no involvement in the actual game.
@@ArtemiyNizovtsevit’s the localization company your working for is the problem pretty sure they don’t want their employees to leave working for some other company
Ndas, piracy, lack of ownership, drm, there is so so much wrong with the entertainment industry, be sure to get copies of things you want and don't be afraid to emulate the things these big companies refuse to support
Funny how not long ago, people were hating on achievements. Nobody goes for them, nobody wants em. Now, "Achievements " are in soo many platforms, and no one cares about trophies. Lol
Well it sucks. But the most annoying part this is normal and known in the industry. And game media waited to make a story about this until one of the big guy is exposed. Looks like BG3 also miscredited translator and no one made a news. Because big name like Nintendo brings engagement and clicks. Honestly game media is not qualified for this job. All they care is engagement.
I remember watching the credits for Star Wars Episode 8 and was surprised to see that they even credited the guy that holds the ladder. Ever since, I always make it a point to watch credits in games to see if anything I wouldn't expect stands out.
I don't get the idea behind not crediting the work someone did on the game. Credits get longer and longer with special thanks sections, sections for higher-ups at the publisher who probably didn't do much with the particular game, and even sections for all the babies born to devs while it the game was made. Yet someone has a 10 year NDA on a released game?
I personally am thankful for the translators even if they do get some things wrong sometimes. I always explore all dialogue options and talk to everyone in games.
I try my best to ignore them but I hate the popups. I'm glad on Switch there aren't any achievements built into the experience and I only need to worry about if the game has them.
@@QKlilx yeap the pop ups make it even worse. 😆 There are many things Nintendo don't have on their systems I wish they did, achievements is not one of them.
A .hack remake would be amazing! Especially since the main plot revolves around an AI and actually says something very meaningful and surprisingly even more relevant today with the boom in machine learning and AI.
"They have done a lot of damage" no, what are you smoking, Johnathan ??? Halo infinite's story is great, multiplayer is amazing and the gameplay is the best it's ever been in the series !
I understand the use of a long term NDA, for reasons like the game didn't get published/cancelled or was delayed, as to mitigate the potential reputational damage to the company in the event that someone is now talking publicly about work on an incomplete product. But, and this is a huge but, THE NDA SHOULD BE VOIDED WHEN THE PRODUCT IS RELEASED! To do anything other than this feels intentionally malicious. There is no, ABSOLUTELY no justifiable reason to hold the NDA in effect and not credit the work of people after the product was completed and released.
I imagine the 10yr NDA is nintendos attempt to make sure any and all games that arent released yet will never be leaked early through a resume before their launch, at the detriment of the (temporary) employees.
Crediting can also help to expose certain bad actors within Treehouse, since some Twitter/X users who claim to be part of Treehouse have gleefully admitted to trying to push agendas in localizations.
What Nintendo is doing is very scummy. What’s the point of working for a game company when you know you’re not gonna get credited for the work and contribution you do for them?
Do you get credited for your work? I don't. I just get paid. Don't see why gaming companies should be any different. If I want credit, I do my own private work.
I ordered a portable monitor portable battery and a tablet stand all for about 68 bucks. Don’t usually jump on Prime deals but there’s lots of good ones.
I am one of those who actually watch credits the first time and hearing this action from Nintendo is really disgusting. These people worked hard helping out and they don't even get the respect they deserve.
I worked for a youtube channel for about a year and had to quit because I wasn't getting paid well and not being credited. I can't imagine putting my blood, sweat, and tears into a game for no inkling of my work to be credited simply because it wasn't enough to beat standards
I’m not sure what timeline I’ve found myself in to be somewhat in anticipation for a Call of Duty game after Ghosts, but I feel like I got the bad ending.
What did you think of Cold War? Because Black Ops 6 is going to be made by all the same people, except with less features and an always-online campaign, lol.
@@BetweenTheLyons - Since the original MW3, I’ve only bought Infinite Warfare [only played Zombies with my wife and daughter], Modern Warfare 2019 [still have yet to play it at all], and Cold War [played maybe three rounds of Zombies]. I didn’t play enough of it to have an opinion really ‘cause I got into other games right away, but I haven’t really been into COD since MW3.
19:01 It would be awesome if you beat the new Zelda game and there is a second quest where you can play the entire game over as Link instead. They haven't had a 2nd quest in Zelda/new game+ in a long time that I can remember.
Probably the one time I will criticise Nintendo but unfortunately translators going uncredited is normal within the game industry but I feel people like to highlight Nintendo doing it because it’s on trend right now to highlight everything Nintendo does that is controversial.
Rebooting Halo is not the answer. Infinite has an 87 on metacritic for a reason, it had a great story and great gameplay. The problem was that it launched with not much content. 343i just needs more devs, like a permanent support studio like Certain Affinity.
I've been saying for years that Microsoft should have IW make a game called Call of Duty: ODST. It'd be a good crossover for COD and Halo. Maybe it can get fans of both IPs on board.
Thank you!!! Bioshock 1 Is also the best one for me, most people keep saying that Infinite is the best but to me it was kinda meh, and 2 was quite boring for me 😅
This whole NDA disclaimer reminds of back in the day, when developers forced workers to use pen names when developing games, so they wouldn’t be poached by other developers. As rotten of a practice it is, it’s not anything new 😕.
They won’t do an OG collection of infection mutation outbreak and quarantine their game play loop hasn’t aged well at all they would have to redo combat system in the game
I feel like we should leave master chief be. I love MC and all, but after 3 his story was really wrapped up in a meaningful way. We can maybe revisit him later down the line, but there is such an expansive universe in the halo story with a lot of people and things that would be way more interesting that MC at this point. I actually liked Halo 5 (controversial, Ik) and then trying to pivot again like they did in 2.
@@seththebeth lost me with "I actually liked Halo 5". The writing was objectively bad. I do agree with your line of thinking, but getting away from MC is insanely hard to do right and 343i can't even tie their own shoes.
.hack fans have been asking bumco for years now. They are a publisher who only focus on mainstream trash like one piece and sword art online. What cc2 ought to do is make a spiritual successor to .hack.
Wassup Jon(SW). I'm not really into the .Hack Games but for the Fans, it would be cool seeing more .Hack Games being Announced. I am not surprised the RetroAchievements Site Crashed. I'll probably Pass on the Black Ops 6 Open Beta, I am not much of an Online Shooter. I think whoever Worked on a Game should be Credited regardless, this is something Nintendo has too sort out. I hope people got some really cool Amazon Prime Deals. A New Bioshock getting Fully Revealed at some point soon would be fantastic, it's hard too capture the magic of the First Game but as long as it's a solid Bioshock Game, Fans I am sure will be very happy Overall. If the Next Halo Game is a dud from 343, then it'll be time for them too take a backseat or the Halo Franchise will have too take a backseat instead. Nice Poll, I'll check out BO6 on Game Pass, more for the Single Player tho. Great Comment, never thought of that, Link being Summoned for certain Puzzles n Bosses, I thinking we would Play as Link at the Start and maybe at the End against the Final Boss.
Everyone likes to pick on nintendo but forget that they were almost bankrupt back in the day for not protecting their IPs. On top of that, they are strictly gaming. They shouldn't leave folks out from the credits, but i understand the NDA. I had to sign a 10 year NDA on glass techniques i was taught to protect my artists technique and style while he taught the next generation. Not defending them on not giving credit, but i understand why they are so protective. Plus, japan has a whole other culture completely different from the west, the west also forgets that...
I could see a situation where 343 and Raven make the next Halo's multiplayer suite, while maybe id and 343 work together with the campaign and someone else makes a battle royale / extraction mode. I think that would be best instead of depending on 343 to do it all. Maybe that is what this guy is getting hints about and they think it means 343 won't do development, who knows.
Back in the day I did buy the first .hack game. At that time I was not into RPGs at that time. I’m a little more into them now so having a collection of the original series from the PS2 would be great. I may have to find the G.U. collection and pick that up.
I really don’t think Zelda will defeat Ganon. It’s always been said that only Link with the Master Sword can truly beat him. I’ve thought since this game was announced that Link will be the one to finish off the game. Zelda can pretty much only deal Ganon as seen in BOTW.
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Gaming translator here. Big companies like Nintendo translate as they develop, so sometimes things are scrapped from the game in later development. They make you sign that long of an NDA in case they use those ideas in other games. Small titles like indies usually ask if you want to be in the credits. I've translated games for 3 years now and I only appear in Bread & Fred's credits.
"tell me what you did at your last job"
"Sorry, i signed an NDA.*
lmao/ Oh I worked for Nin...Ninas come out of the wall with the Nintendo logo.
10 year NDAs are BS. I did an internship for an animation company and I can't even show my work for at least 5 years.
I'm sorry that's so bogus. Can you explain the reason? Is it really out of fear for work or ideas being stolen? Or is there more to it that I don't understand?
@@chrisjohnson9542 I imagine part of the reason is because he was an intern, and they’re not given the same privileges or rights as payed employee
But you knew of it beforehand though right, with the NDA, or are people getting annoyed because they didn't read all the terms at the start?
@@GU__NI probably didn't read
@@GU__NIit’s not even about reading. A lot of big companies do this to varying degrees. Can’t really get it off it. Some fortunately don’t, but you can’t always choose what job you get in the creative industry
The COD poll shows just how much Spawn Wave viewers differ from the "mainstream". If anything, it should be a reminder that the "internet's" opinion is far from "everyone's" opinion.
The second you watch a gaming podcast or TH-camr you’re no longer part of the “mainstream”
They don’t participate in anything beyond just gaming. They don’t follow news outside of social media.
The mainstream owns 1 console and buys the same 1-3 gamers per year. (CoD, Madden, Just Dance, Assassins Creed)
@@jarde1989I feel like mainstream now just means Fortnite
(This is coming from a person who hasn’t played Fortnite and hasn’t bought a COD since world at war so take this with a grain of salt I guess)
tbh, im surprised cod is still "popular" i dont know anyone who plays cod, or has in recent years. I thought most people realized it was just another AAA scam, minimal effort, maximum monetization. i always call it the FIFA of shooters (thats not a compliment)
Really, though? Even COD fanboys know MW3 was UNFINISHED GARBAGE. You really think ALL of them are gonna stay on the ship?
@@M_CFVmw3 was the top selling game last month and for the year so yes they're all staying on the ship... everyone crying about cod being garbage has had literally no effect whatsoever
The credits in Mortal Kombat are so long, You get a trophies for watching the entire credit reel
That's the only time I don't skip the credits. I'm not a trophy hunter at all but if Its an easy one to get I'll do it
Mk is so bad the credits have the best gameplay of the whole thing!
Kredit*
@@LeeJoRo Watkhing*
Ubisoft games got crazy long credits too. I think AC Valhalla's credits were about an hour long. It definitely felt like an hour.
DO people skip game credits? These days, there’s often something interesting going on during the credits, whether new music and art, or the ability to control your character or a camera in some way. Plus, if you skip, you may miss something after them. Maybe I’m in the minority.
I do it out of habit. When I went to the movies as a kid, we would sit through the end credits of every film. This was back when no one had anything to show during the credits. The trailer for Back to the Future 3 showing up at the end of the second movie was a huge deal.
@@Fidelis1776 Yeah, good point. I mean, I don't actually 'read' the credits to a game, but I definitely sit through them. I've just accomplished something, and I want to get everything out of it that the game has to offer after winning.
@@AlienFrequency I play a silly game where I try to find names of people I actually know.
@@Fidelis1776 haha that's cool. Have you ever found any you actually knew?
I always watch the game credits. I often like the swell of music during it. I tend to think it's rude to skip it because I was a game bug tester for a brief period and with that.. I feel it's odd to not at least sit and see the names that helped contribute to a game.
That sucks about crediting is still a problem. The first video game Easter egg was a credit.
I work as a Sign Language Interpreter. When doing Virtual Relay Service (VRS) our names are often hidden for our protection. But regardless our faces are there. By the nature of Sign Language our faces are there. I am sorry this happens to Verbal Language.
When your flagship series is almost being forgotten.... that's a problem. Halo from people who made Fusion Frenzy and thought Master Chief wasn't that important for the series.... Yeah...
Buddy of mine left Rockstar before Read Dead 1 released. He did not get a credit. Years later he worked for Double Eleven and got his name in the credits of the port, despite leaving Double Eleven a few months before that version of the game came out
I usually won't bother with a game without achievements, I really like seeing that my time went towards something so that I don't feel like I wasted my time. There are a few exceptions, but it definitely is a factor on if I care about a game or not
I don't think you will play as link at all. The way that rating discription read was 'in the past you played as link using swords and arrows, in this one you play as Zelda using etc.'
bad move from Nintendo.
localizers should be credited so the consumers who care will know who are the bad apples if the localizations end up being terrible
as a dedicated .hack fan. im glad to see spawn wave covering this news about this. Unfortunately CC2 has stated and told us many times in magazines and interviews about upcoming .hack games/ remasters and its exactly like he's said before which is you have to tell Bandai Namco that we want this game by voicing this decision. Now how do we do this when the most recent game was a remaster from recent 10 years is and its always on sale for like 5-10$ is hard to do. .Hack paved the way for isekai into games genre. it does supersede even the SAO website and comics that came around 2001 with a manga being first shown at mangacon back in the late 90's. .Hack is the Pioneer we deserve a .Hack remaster or new entry.
Careful buying sandisks on Amazon, I've already bought 2 counterfeits from them already.
60-80 hours of work for 40 hours of pay, sexual harassment, toxic work environment, relationship/marital problems, depression, stress beyond stress, no recognition, etc....
Why do people want to be game programmers again?
Dot Hack, hack yeah! I really want more Dot Hack baby!
I think we are the only ones excited for it
@@billymerritt420 Maybe remaster of the older games would bring more new fans but yeah it is a very niche series after all.
Looks like playstation portal is selling well and we also have a playstation portal subreddit 😂😂😂
As for Bioshock 4 I would like to continue with an aftermath of infinite from opening portals😎
The reason movie credits are so long is because they probably have union contracts that insist they get credit for their work.
Since it’s a comparable industry (many diverse technical workers ), the game industry needs to form a Union or Guild to negotiate standard contracts that cover this and many other industry abuses.
Ownership will never do the right thing they need to be pressured / forced.
The reason why movies credit so many people is because of the unions. Is the gaming industry wants to resolve this, they need to unionize.
Unions are a scam
No
the localizer union lol
How bout no
@@jrtalkin5558 well articulated response
Bandai Namco re-releasing obscure older games, that's a hilarious joke
The Call of Duty Franchise isn’t the same anymore. I miss how the game was on PS3 and 360, when you actually had your best good at the game vs just swiping your credit card to get the best weapons
It is the same, you're just glazing over nostalgia bias as does everybody when it comes to long running series. "The old game was better" "the first season was better" "the original toys were better" it's the same you're just bored of the same which is making you hate but your bias is based off when it was "new" to you.
@@byronbarrientos8471 No. Some of my fondest CoD MP memories was grinding out things like the red tigerstripe skins for my guns. Each skin meant something, it was an accomplishment much like armor in Halo 3. Now they mean nothing but that you pulled out your credit card and are bad with money.
@@byronbarrientos8471 You know, just cause something is new doesn't mean it's better. Things get worse or better, that's life. COD use to be games, now it's a service. If your ok with that it's cool.
.hack! Let's get those peer pressure emails going
I am so confused at why Nintendo still refuses to port the Wii version of Punch Out to the switch. It would be the perfect platform for that game and I would buy a physical copy in an instant.
If anything, comments like these are confusing.
@@NuiYabuko Why would this comment confuse you?
Its his comment thats confusing. Lol
@@adammcdonald3385 lol, I am just curious to see why he/she thinks it's confusing? Unless maybe it is because I made a random comment about the game and the video has nothing to do with Punch Out. But it involves Nintendo so I dunno lol.
Wonder if the original didn’t sell well enough for them to easily justify even a simple port. But Nintendo will also sit on games that would definitely sell well so who knows. 😅 sometimes I think they care more about the cadence of releases a little too much and will drag out the release of certain titles just to make sure they have a consistent release schedule.
Seems to me Nintendo doesn’t want you to build your portfolio or expand your horizons so that you’re always just there waiting for when they need you for the next project
This is about external translators, though. If anything, those might fear good translators getting a job at Nintendo.
That’s a good point👍🏾
I’m tired of Nintendo when they flopped with the wii u they were nice to everyone and practically begging for attention from everyone. Now they think they won’t fail again… but they already have.
@@agc2801success has gone back to their heads
That's the thing people are forgetting to mention that this is about people that are working through a agency.
Have been working in translation/localization for almost two decades and that is exactly how it works as an independent.
You get no credit and you get hit with NDAs and you can bet your ass that there are some companies like Nintendo and others that I would never dare break an NDA.
I love achievements and do wish there was an achievement thing on Switch at times... but then I recall a bygone era where they didn't exist and enjoy the purity of just enjoying the game for what it is.
But main reason I like achievements is sometimes they point you towards Easter eggs and other things you might have otherwise not ran across or experienced in the game. And other times it's just nice to get acknowledged for beating or collecting hard to get to things.
Also being older I don't have the time to flush out the games via online researching fun things like I did in the school days era
Spawn Wave, I’m surprised you haven’t talked about EA College Football 25. It’s been 11 years since NCAA 14 and there was a lot of hype for this game. It wasn’t just considered a Madden reskin… Anyways great content as always.
In tech, you cant talk about anything, just the process and high level user problems you solved.
The first four original dot hack games remastered or remade?! Hope so PS4,PS5,Steam
John is glossing over the single good part of the current Amazon Fire Stick. The Wifi 6E means that at relatively close distance to a standard wifi router(~40 ft) it can get the same speed as LAN cables. In my personal case, its an average of 55 MBps.
Credits are weird because, as an example I finished SMT VV yesterday, and people like accountants and such are credited? And twice because also includes the staff of the OG game, but is 95% the same people, and then you have credits where people who are more directly involve in the game are not? Again is so weird.
without accountants those team will just run their budget to the ground and fail to finish making the game because of not having money anymore, when all you have are programmers, vanillaware and their constant running out of money and the president having to fork over personal money is what you get
.hack, digital devil, cocoon, xenogear😉 all need remasters
Also legend of legaia!
Is that short for Jade Cocoon?
Digital Devil Saga 1 & 2
EVERYONE should watch the opening intro for DDS 2 at least once. It still holds up, and it was a PS2 game.
I’ve been saying for a long while now Square should just sell Xenogears to Nintendo so Monolith Soft can remake it. Instead they’re taking the “that’s my IP to sit on and do nothing with!” route.
It’s great that people start talking about how these big companies outright refuse to put translators’ names in credits. I work as a video game translator, and it’s ridiculous how many high profile games from major publishers just completely omit our entire team’s names from the credits after spending months or even years on these projects.
As long as you get paid, I don't see the issue.
If you feel like you need to be credited for it, then don't sign the NDA. Or wait for a decade.
@@alpsyo608 the issue is that getting in the credits is how you get more work, and it doesn’t cost anything to the company to credit people who give months of their life to these projects. Especially considering how many other people ARE getting credited in those rolls who had minimal to no involvement in the actual game.
@@ArtemiyNizovtsev Who gets credited that had minimal to no involvement in the actual game?
@@ArtemiyNizovtsevit’s the localization company your working for is the problem pretty sure they don’t want their employees to leave working for some other company
I may be a little late, but the Zelda and Link situation could mean a co-op in Echoes of Wisdom.
Gotta love the experience of being a plumber every 5 seconds in BioShock.
Worked for Mario.
Bill McDonaugh (Rapture's Plumber General) has more than ONE Audio Diary on the subject and most of them don't paint his duties in rosy light...
Ndas, piracy, lack of ownership, drm, there is so so much wrong with the entertainment industry, be sure to get copies of things you want and don't be afraid to emulate the things these big companies refuse to support
Funny how not long ago, people were hating on achievements. Nobody goes for them, nobody wants em. Now, "Achievements " are in soo many platforms, and no one cares about trophies. Lol
Was that "not long ago" 15 years ago or something? ^^;
Well it sucks. But the most annoying part this is normal and known in the industry. And game media waited to make a story about this until one of the big guy is exposed. Looks like BG3 also miscredited translator and no one made a news. Because big name like Nintendo brings engagement and clicks. Honestly game media is not qualified for this job. All they care is engagement.
I mean, welcome to capitalism ?
Suicide Squad: Killed the Justice League is now free with Amazon Prime Gaming. Also Rise of the Tomb Raider. Both EGS, but it’s free, so 🤷♀️.
I remember watching the credits for Star Wars Episode 8 and was surprised to see that they even credited the guy that holds the ladder. Ever since, I always make it a point to watch credits in games to see if anything I wouldn't expect stands out.
I don't get the idea behind not crediting the work someone did on the game. Credits get longer and longer with special thanks sections, sections for higher-ups at the publisher who probably didn't do much with the particular game, and even sections for all the babies born to devs while it the game was made. Yet someone has a 10 year NDA on a released game?
Good point, actually. 😊 The moment babies are mentioned, developers have no excuse not to put anyone and everyone involved.
I personally am thankful for the translators even if they do get some things wrong sometimes. I always explore all dialogue options and talk to everyone in games.
I don't like achievements. As a completionist I feel the need to do them, and I hate how they end up guiding how you should engage with the game.
I try my best to ignore them but I hate the popups. I'm glad on Switch there aren't any achievements built into the experience and I only need to worry about if the game has them.
@@QKlilx yeap the pop ups make it even worse. 😆
There are many things Nintendo don't have on their systems I wish they did, achievements is not one of them.
@QKlilx you do know you can turn that off right? Well with trophies anyway, not sure with achievements but assume it is possible
@@solid_justice5855 I play games exclusively on my Switch so I wouldn't know.
Yesterday, I just ordered an AM4 Ryzen 9 5900X, with a 61% discount. Early discounts are real!
A .hack remake would be amazing! Especially since the main plot revolves around an AI and actually says something very meaningful and surprisingly even more relevant today with the boom in machine learning and AI.
I been begging for the first 4 .hack games to get remastered or a new game but we keep getting SAO. CC2 always say its in BanCo hands
Bioshock 1 and 2 are still worth playing to this day. Hoping for a return to form with Bioshock 4.
"They have done a lot of damage" no, what are you smoking, Johnathan ??? Halo infinite's story is great, multiplayer is amazing and the gameplay is the best it's ever been in the series !
Anxious for spawnwave to show the gamecube flippydrive when it releases. Should be soon.
Make sure you pick it up
In that article you read saying even Microsoft says they are not confident in 343 made me laugh 😂
Thank you Jon for saying the USD price of these games on sale instead of just the percentages this time 😁
I understand the use of a long term NDA, for reasons like the game didn't get published/cancelled or was delayed, as to mitigate the potential reputational damage to the company in the event that someone is now talking publicly about work on an incomplete product. But, and this is a huge but, THE NDA SHOULD BE VOIDED WHEN THE PRODUCT IS RELEASED! To do anything other than this feels intentionally malicious. There is no, ABSOLUTELY no justifiable reason to hold the NDA in effect and not credit the work of people after the product was completed and released.
I imagine the 10yr NDA is nintendos attempt to make sure any and all games that arent released yet will never be leaked early through a resume before their launch, at the detriment of the (temporary) employees.
For cod early access isn't this exactly what Phil said they wouldn't do while in court and under oath lol
Elgato wave 3 mic is on a big sale since you mentioned listing em, so are the arms but oddly only certain color arms
I was able to scoop the star wars heritage pack for the switch at 33% off! Great deal for that bundle of 7 games.
Crediting can also help to expose certain bad actors within Treehouse, since some Twitter/X users who claim to be part of Treehouse have gleefully admitted to trying to push agendas in localizations.
What Nintendo is doing is very scummy. What’s the point of working for a game company when you know you’re not gonna get credited for the work and contribution you do for them?
Probably has something to do with the paycheck you get? How many software companies credit devs or translators or UI artists at all?
Do you get credited for your work? I don't. I just get paid. Don't see why gaming companies should be any different. If I want credit, I do my own private work.
Bro, this is not just an Nintendo problem. It happens everywhere. Welcome to adulthood.
@@Vyz3r if it happens everywhere, then this shouldn’t be mentioned in the news AT ALL.
And taking credit is the least of adulthood problems thank you very much.
I ordered a portable monitor portable battery and a tablet stand all for about 68 bucks. Don’t usually jump on Prime deals but there’s lots of good ones.
I am one of those who actually watch credits the first time and hearing this action from Nintendo is really disgusting.
These people worked hard helping out and they don't even get the respect they deserve.
I worked for a youtube channel for about a year and had to quit because I wasn't getting paid well and not being credited. I can't imagine putting my blood, sweat, and tears into a game for no inkling of my work to be credited simply because it wasn't enough to beat standards
I really hope new Devs of Halo actually care about the franchise
If 343 is only doing halo then why does halo infinite still have the same bugs now that it had at launch?
Kinda sad people were excited over the addition of pointless achievements, most unnecessary addition to gaming over the years.
You gotta cover MigFlash. How MigSwitch is rebranding to MigFlash to avoid legal woes. This has to make the news!
Grandma fixes the servers?
18:10 I'm glad most of the people here don't have mush for brains.
Nintendo hates emulation but won't give their own employees credit. I am not sure if that makes sense but I am trying here.
That's so crazy. It's video games for crying out loud not the secret service. They aren't hiring hitmen but translators. Lol.
Bioshock 2/Minerva's Den is the best of the series
I’m not sure what timeline I’ve found myself in to be somewhat in anticipation for a Call of Duty game after Ghosts, but I feel like I got the bad ending.
What did you think of Cold War? Because Black Ops 6 is going to be made by all the same people, except with less features and an always-online campaign, lol.
@@BetweenTheLyons - Since the original MW3, I’ve only bought Infinite Warfare [only played Zombies with my wife and daughter], Modern Warfare 2019 [still have yet to play it at all], and Cold War [played maybe three rounds of Zombies]. I didn’t play enough of it to have an opinion really ‘cause I got into other games right away, but I haven’t really been into COD since MW3.
Retro Achievements is nothin more than “head cannon” for achievement hunting try hards that have nothing better to do with retro games.
Could be a way for Nintendo to try to make sure people are available for future projects.
John, why don't you do multiple comments of the day? I'd love to see your opinion on a few of the top comments every vid!
19:01 It would be awesome if you beat the new Zelda game and there is a second quest where you can play the entire game over as Link instead. They haven't had a 2nd quest in Zelda/new game+ in a long time that I can remember.
RGT 85 You need to have him on more
Probably the one time I will criticise Nintendo but unfortunately translators going uncredited is normal within the game industry but I feel people like to highlight Nintendo doing it because it’s on trend right now to highlight everything Nintendo does that is controversial.
.hack, Digital Devil Saga and the Devil Summoner Raidou Kuzunoha games need remasters.
Jedi Survivor credits run for over 30 minutes. I wish they credited less people 😅
Rebooting Halo is not the answer. Infinite has an 87 on metacritic for a reason, it had a great story and great gameplay. The problem was that it launched with not much content. 343i just needs more devs, like a permanent support studio like Certain Affinity.
Sonic superstar isn't discounted on Amazon Canada. I was waiting for it to go down in price before i picked it up. I guess i'll keep waiting...Later
Infinity ward presents halo
I've been saying for years that Microsoft should have IW make a game called Call of Duty: ODST. It'd be a good crossover for COD and Halo. Maybe it can get fans of both IPs on board.
8:33 and sometimes you beat dark souls 2 scholar, and then you have to watch THOSE credits.
Thank you!!! Bioshock 1 Is also the best one for me, most people keep saying that Infinite is the best but to me it was kinda meh, and 2 was quite boring for me 😅
This whole NDA disclaimer reminds of back in the day, when developers forced workers to use pen names when developing games, so they wouldn’t be poached by other developers. As rotten of a practice it is, it’s not anything new 😕.
What I want the most out of a new Bioshock is that it would be a new System Shock instead.
They won’t do an OG collection of infection mutation outbreak and quarantine their game play loop hasn’t aged well at all they would have to redo combat system in the game
Look you know it, I know it, we all know that it’s time for Halo to rest easy and be let go of. It’s good for 343 to close.
Big oof moment for Nintendo
Halo deserves better.
I feel like we should leave master chief be. I love MC and all, but after 3 his story was really wrapped up in a meaningful way. We can maybe revisit him later down the line, but there is such an expansive universe in the halo story with a lot of people and things that would be way more interesting that MC at this point. I actually liked Halo 5 (controversial, Ik) and then trying to pivot again like they did in 2.
@@seththebeth lost me with "I actually liked Halo 5". The writing was objectively bad.
I do agree with your line of thinking, but getting away from MC is insanely hard to do right and 343i can't even tie their own shoes.
It's not "odd" or "strange", it's shitty.....period.
The Xbox tax is real.
.hack fans have been asking bumco for years now. They are a publisher who only focus on mainstream trash like one piece and sword art online. What cc2 ought to do is make a spiritual successor to .hack.
Wassup Jon(SW).
I'm not really into the .Hack Games but for the Fans, it would be cool seeing more .Hack Games being Announced.
I am not surprised the RetroAchievements Site Crashed.
I'll probably Pass on the Black Ops 6 Open Beta, I am not much of an Online Shooter.
I think whoever Worked on a Game should be Credited regardless, this is something Nintendo has too sort out.
I hope people got some really cool Amazon Prime Deals.
A New Bioshock getting Fully Revealed at some point soon would be fantastic, it's hard too capture the magic of the First Game but as long as it's a solid Bioshock Game, Fans I am sure will be very happy Overall.
If the Next Halo Game is a dud from 343, then it'll be time for them too take a backseat or the Halo Franchise will have too take a backseat instead.
Nice Poll, I'll check out BO6 on Game Pass, more for the Single Player tho.
Great Comment, never thought of that, Link being Summoned for certain Puzzles n Bosses, I thinking we would Play as Link at the Start and maybe at the End against the Final Boss.
You must not be paying attention to Halo or 343 because it seems that every other day there is some kind of controversy that pops up.
I just love how the Tweeter logo is still on the credits
Everyone likes to pick on nintendo but forget that they were almost bankrupt back in the day for not protecting their IPs. On top of that, they are strictly gaming. They shouldn't leave folks out from the credits, but i understand the NDA. I had to sign a 10 year NDA on glass techniques i was taught to protect my artists technique and style while he taught the next generation. Not defending them on not giving credit, but i understand why they are so protective. Plus, japan has a whole other culture completely different from the west, the west also forgets that...
I could see a situation where 343 and Raven make the next Halo's multiplayer suite, while maybe id and 343 work together with the campaign and someone else makes a battle royale / extraction mode. I think that would be best instead of depending on 343 to do it all. Maybe that is what this guy is getting hints about and they think it means 343 won't do development, who knows.
Back in the day I did buy the first .hack game. At that time I was not into RPGs at that time. I’m a little more into them now so having a collection of the original series from the PS2 would be great. I may have to find the G.U. collection and pick that up.
I really don’t think Zelda will defeat Ganon. It’s always been said that only Link with the Master Sword can truly beat him. I’ve thought since this game was announced that Link will be the one to finish off the game. Zelda can pretty much only deal Ganon as seen in BOTW.