Protip: if your Gen 1 moveset is rocking two or more boosting moves, remember that they each reset their affected stat's badge boost to the normal +12.5%. In other words, using Swords Dance will cancel the extra ATK badge boost from all prior uses of Agility, and vice versa. Don't alternate if you can help it, and boost the stat you want to be the absolute highest first.
@@atc_wro Yeah Tauros has never had good boosting moves even to this day. It being Male only with no pre-evolution also completely killed is egg move potential.
“Strong Pokémon. Weak Pokémon. That is only the selfish perception of people. Truly skilled trainers should try to win with their favorites. I like your style. You understand what’s important.”
@@shane8039 i mean, since i like playing with my gbc or sp, especially in japanese, i literally play alone, so no competitive play😂 buuut i still enjoy having pysduck and slowpoke in my gen 1 parties. Use the pokemon you like, dat it
"It's one thing to enjoy leisurely battles, but real battles can be a severe trial. Truly strong Trainers sometimes must be prepared to choose Pokemon that can win rather than their favorite Pokemon."
I was 11 years old when Pokémon came out in 1999 and even then there was only one rule: The strongest Pokémon will be on the team. Oak's words in the end were a joke when I read them. I was the better Gary.
Arcanine is based on the mythical Chinese lion-dogs. You can see their statues guarding temples. That's why Arcanine is called the "legendary" pokemon.
@@RollingCalf Eh, a lot are directly based on yokai, but many more aren't. Unless you mean a lot of pokemon serve as "modern yokai" which I agree with. Drifloon as a balloon that tries to kidnap children but fails cause it can't actually pick them up is top tier joke yokai.
I love to see DUX sweep through the whole game with some simple setup. It's ironic that crits were the lose condition here considering what game freak would go on to make Farfetch'd focus on right after by introducing the Stick.
@ pokemon perfect, an alternative to smogon, has a different tiering system, where 1U 2U and 3U are analogous to OU UU NU (there's no RU in RBY), but it goes down all the way to 7U. The top threat of 7U is Meowth (who also clicks slash).
i used Farfetch'd back when the game came out and quickly learned how insanely powerful it can get thanks to SD and Agility. Used it again in Gen 2 and swept most of the E4 with SD and Fury Cutter. I love this little duck so much.
The Japanese word for "roar" ほえる actually signifies just a loud animal sound and would also include things such as barking or howling. In fact, the most commonly used kanji is 吠える which, features the character for "mouth" next to the character for "dog". This is just something lost in translation.
This run reminds of back when I used to do Pokemon Emerald solo runs, as Zangoose is great for the same reason that Farfetch'd is. Like Farfetch'd, it gets Swords Dance early, except imagine Farfetch'd with Physical Ghost and Fighting coverage and much better Attack and Speed. Seriously, Zangoose is a beast.
I don't think you've been using Zangoose in emerald runs, seeing as I distinctly remember it being the last pokemon to fill my dex, seeing as nobody I knew had a ruby edition. Minus trade and glitches, I don't think it's obtainable in emerald.
@@Alice_Fumo I always thought it was stupid that Zangoose was removed from Emerald anyway, yet Seviper was always in the game. Then again, third versions of older Pokemon games have always had weird Pokemon removals, like no Mareep in Crystal.
Given farfetch'd is based on the old Japanese story of a hungry person being lost and coming across a "duck bearing Leeks" which of course the joke being that that duck is carrying food the guy is going to eat along with it it's understandable that farfetch'd is meant to be a joke Pokemon, given it's based on a joke and all. But it still kind of sucks that it's stats realy are that awful, nevermind that he was supposed to get an evolution in Gen2 that was cut.. So it's nice to see this tasty duck getting some love
But they both raise your stats by two stages meaning you can only use them three times. So stat boost wise they are equal to a 1-stage boosting move that you can use six times.
But they cancel each other's badge boost, i.e., upon using swords dance you lose (glitched) badge boost in atk and upon using agility you lose (glitched) badge boosts in speed. So the only thing really benefiting twice are the defenses.
It's crazy how as a kid playing this game I always went for slash as my primary attack because it always _seemed_ to be the strongest. Now, knowing the mechanics of the game, I don't know why I ever played the game with Farfetch'd the way I did. I'm pretty sure I rarely used Swords Dance, and never put Body Slam on it.
Well, you're already superior to most kids, including myself, who always went for stuff like Fire Blast, Solar Beam and Hyper Beam, because of course they're the strongest move! :')
So Lorelei not only has "good AI", which is the coloquial name for one of 3 AI routines NPCs can have, she actually has all 3. The first is to prevent the AI from using a status move on a pokemon which already has a non-volatile status condition. The 3rd is the famous and buggy "good AI" which favors super effective moves. And the 2nd is the one that was responsible for Lorelei's Dewgong using Growl against Farfetch'd. It is also quite buggy, my guess is that it was intended to encourage the AI to use stat boosting moves on itself or stat reducing moves on the opponent at the start of the fight, but what it actually does is favor a specific set of move effects, but only on the *second* turn of battle of each of its pokemon. The moves favored by this routine are the following : all stat boosting moves, all stat reducing moves, Pay day, Swift, Conversion, Haze, Reflect, Light screen, Transform, and all healing moves Since Growl is a stat reducing move, it is favored by this routine, making it as likely to be picked as super effective moves, but since this routine works only on the second turn, that's why you will never see Lorelei's Dewgong use Growl on any other turn when Aurora Beam is super effective, because Aurora Beam is favored on every turn. This is also true of Rest. So in conclusion, Lorelei's pokemon can all have their "good AI" derailed on their second turn by this other AI routine if they have eligible moves. Slowbro has 3, so it is very prone to it for example. This AI routine isn't very common, the only trainer classes that have it are : Super Nerd, Pokemaniac, Psychic, Scientist and Lorelei.
Juggler and Gentleman have it too (if the speedrun wiki is correct). Lorelei and Pokemaniac are the only trainers that have both Good AI and the turn 2 routine. I had a feeling something weird might happen to stop Dewgong using an Ice move, but then I thought that's just Yellow. I had no idea the turn 2 routine could override super effective moves until now.
@@impossibledream3973 You're right about Gentleman, I saw it in the code but forgot to list it! Juggler is a bit of a special case, the class that has routine 2 is not used by any trainer, all the jugglers actually use another class, also called Juggler, but which has only the 1st routine. Fun fact : the duplicate Juggler class is one of two unused classes, the other being the Chief class. It doesn't contain any trainer data, and is listed in the "Evil trainer" category (which is used to choose the pre-fight music). Make of that what you will. My guess is Chief was a beta Giovanni.
Just so you know accuracy decreases are easier to understand than you'd think, they're always less effective after the first because of how it works. -1 stage = 3/4 accuracy -2 stage = 3/5 accuracy -3 stage = 3/6 accuracy(1/2) -4 stage = 3/7 accuracy -5 stage = 3/8 accuracy -6 stage = 3/9 accuracy(1/3) It's not that there's a decline in effectiveness after 3 uses, each one just increases the divisor by 1 which results in the gradually reducing effect(3/8 to 3/9 is obviously a smaller effect than 3/3 to 3/4 or 3/4 to 3/5)
According to bulbapedia in gen 1 they used slightly different multipliers, namely 66/100, 50/100, 40/100, 33/100, 28/100 and 25/100. I think you misunderstood what jrose was hinting at. Imagine you know your mon can knock out the geodude with exactly 6 hits. You could either attack 6 times and get hit 5 times in the worst case ( assuming you outspeed ). Or you decide to set up one sand attack. Though you give geodude one more turn to attack, the expected value of received hits (assuming he always tries to attack) until you knock him out is now 66/100 * 6 ≈ 4. Going for two sand attacks geodudes expected connected hit count goes down to 66/100 + 50/00 * 6 ≈ 3.67 so 3 or more likely four hits. For the next sand attack this number is 3.5 and for the fourth it goes up to ~3.507 again. Remember that the whole point of setting up sand-attack is to get hit as little as possible.
@@Vigaberno You are correct! 2/3, 2/4, 2/5, 2/6, 2/7, and 2/8 are used in Gen 1, which mirrors all other stat stage modifications. These ratios are used in all future generations for every stat except accuracy/evasion. For battles as long as the one against Geodude (26±3 turns), it actually makes sense to go for more than 3 Sand Attacks. If you're going to be attacked 8 or more times, then every Sand Attack is an improvement, even the weakest sixth. The accuracy of the incoming attack doesn't affect that 8-attack threshold, but we'll use the 95% accurate Tackle as an example: Attacked 8 times: 7.6 hits. Attacked 9 times, but one Sand Attack was set up before the first attack: 5.7 hits. Attacked 10 times, but a second Sand Attack was set up before the second attack: 4.91 hits. Attacked 11 times, but a third Sand Attack was set up before the third attack: 4.53 hits. Attacked 12 times, but a fourth Sand Attack was set up before the fourth attack: 4.34 hits. Attacked 13 times, but a fifth Sand Attack was set up before the fifth attack: 4.25 hits. Attacked 14 times, but a sixth Sand Attack was set up before the sixth attack: 4.21 hits. In Gen 1, you can subtract 2 from the number of times you'd expect to be attacked in a battle without accuracy/evasion setup, and that's how many accuracy/evasion modifications it's worth setting up ON AVERAGE. Of course, the "expected" number of hits might be more appropriately considered as the MODAL result and not the average, but that's a piecewise function I can't summarize in text.
I always remember it as "normal is 2/2", then raising stats ups the numerator (3/2, 4/2, etc) while decreasing stats ups the denominator (2/3, 2/4, etc)
The reason Lorelei's Dewgong uses Growl sometimes here is because Lorelei has the relatively uncommon AI Modification 2. This causes her to prioritize status moves on the second turn each of her Pokémon is in battle, apparently to the same extent that AI Modification 3 (aka "Good AI") prioritizes super effective moves. (For the record, AI Modification 1 strongly deprioritizes moves that inflict non-volatile status conditions, such as Toxic or Sleep Powder, when your active Pokémon already has a non-volatile status condition. Most trainer classes in the game have this.)
The AI isn't programmed to use Growl just because you used Swords Dance. Lorelei uses AI Routine Modification #2, which on the second turn prioritizes any move that does something other than just deal damage. But that applies to all four of Dewgong's moves.
Thanks for all the frequent content as of late, JRose and SimplyAJ!! (I want to make sure you get credit too!! You help make these frequent uploads possible!) Edit: OMG I just noticed the Rival and MC's names. 10/10
Pikasprey already did RBY Ditto with your ruleset, and while it's possible, due to how Struggle interactions with Mirror Move and Disable it can softlock/freeze your game with the only way out to turn the Game Boy off and on.
Farfetch'd is so good in Fire Red and Leaf Green too, as the traded one comes with a stick and a adamant nature. I did a ingame trade only playthrough of fire red awhile ago and Farfetch'd hard carried.
I'm super glad with all the videos you're uploading, now that you mention it, it would be cool to see a Ditto Solo Run as a part of the Impossible Challenge series.
@@Matrix3000plusIt was that exact bug. During the Koga fight, he was suddenly stuck with Transform at 0 PP, but the game refusing to let him Struggle - but this was *not* the case for any other battle, iirc.
@@somegalnamedseelpit3713wasn't it the exact opposite? he had to do the rest of the run transform only it also didn't happen during koga because the bug is caused by using mirror move when transformed
If you want to see gen 1 ditto run there is the Pikasprey video. I personally am not interested in seeing Jrose do that run, I'd be more interested in seeing how it fares in the more recent generations, especially since struggle mechanics have been changed
Lt. Surge got demoted SO MANY TIMES that his rank had an integer underflow, making him instantly the highest rank possible. So the US army was like "Dude, we can't have this guy be an Elite General Space Ranger. Let's just hard-code him to lieutenant""
At the start you were saying you still need to do a ditto run, there is a game-breaking bug attached to transform you might want to keep in mind when doing the video: If you use transform and the enemy has metronome or mirror move, don't ever use it. It will make it so you will never ever be able to use struggle with it again. There is some bs increment/decrement of move PP going on in the background when using those moves, and in short it makes the game think you have more than zero pp on an empty move slot.
Shouldn't be a problem Pidgeot's mirror move in the final battle is likely the time it ever should ever come up. I don't think Jrose ever takes the lavender town path to Fuchsia and that's the path with the million Mirror Move Spearow using BirdKeepers plus that one lass with a Clefairy.
@@DisplayThisOkay yeah he's got no reason to use Fisherman Bridge for a few reasons: 1. not getting Water Pokemon to Stone evolve 2. Bike path faster for Speedrun 3. Also Bird Fences and Fisher Bridge slower than a basic route to walk through, bit like Viridian Forest. 4. he often saves trainers away to level up if he needs to, i think this is his hunting ground for leveling against Rival Fival 5. so he doesn't use it to get to Koga and Blaine, but once he's grinding at chokepoint trainers then he'll double back and clear everything he has access to if he really needs to. 6. but even then, Victory Road is usually more efficient and the Sea Route trainers south of Pallet Town toward Cinnabar are less time wasted than the farthest possible away corner from the Indigo Plateau on the map that's not the Power Plant.
Glad to see some justice done on Farfetch'd's name! The traded DUX is even better and would've been about six levels higher before the Elite Four, which would've gone a long way in hitting those speed and damage thresholds. I've seen it argued in tiering discussions that its main utility is as an HM bot, but if you let it ride its bonus exp. points to be a few levels higher than the rest of the team, it is very legit as a fighter
Hey Jrose, first of all this was a fun video, I recently installed the GBA Emulator for Gen-2 (Crystal) since I was feeling nostalgic. Here's a funny little detail that just happened to me while I was watching your video. I'm south of Ecruteak City, right below on the route where the three acorn tree's are at. Mind you, I was just grinding and training a little Dratini. After probably fifteen minutes, I deal with several Stantler, random ass spiders and Hoot hoots. Wait for it... All of a sudden random ass Legendary Electric Dog shows up. Raikou, or whatever...so yeah, I guess mass slaughter (battling) draws the dog in. I laughed a bit, I just figured to relive my childhood when I shit my pants hearing the 'different' battle theme. Already got one Dog, time to catch the other two and find the legendary birds after I deal with Lance's goon squad. I might as well grind for the Dragonite for the fun of it. Sometimes I miss being able to play these games, it brings me back to days when things were simple yet fun when your imagination puts you in the shoes in a decently designed game.
I always figured Arcanine is a mix between a dog and a tiger, hence the black stripes on red/orange base color. Therefore I thought it made sense to me that it can roar x3
to be fair, around the same time as your original majikarp video pikasprey also made a ditto r/b challenge that both you and him inspired the whole pokemon solo challenge run thing on youtube to begin with, but that was soooo long ago that I can't wait to see your take on it since so much new info has come out since those old videos.
Another JRose video. Let’s go!!! Man I love your content and dedication to this series. I always love putting it the background and hearing the adventure you gave everytime. Thank you for the great videos
About the roaring thing - it's because the japanese name is hoeru, which is barking/roaring. Hence why so many dog pokémon learn it since the japanese word is way more associated with dogs.
I've been watching these runs for a few months now, and I'm always super impressed. I attempted a no capture run a little bit ago, inspired by the minimum battles run you did in red. But I played FireRed, and I think I hit a few unnecessary battles accidentally, so I just kept with my fallback of no capturing. I completed that a couple weeks ago, and it was super cool, now I'm thinking about what the next challenge I want to do is. Your videos in emerald kinda tell me that I'm NOT ready to min battles that yet lol!
I love Farfetch'd, I've tried to make him work on a team for years, never could though. Wish he was a little faster, that thing in later gens when he gets the leek item and can crit more often is pretty neat.
The Stick was a Gen2 introduction. But actually getting it, like many the held items, was ridiculously silly. Like Twisted Spoon needed trade an Kadabra from gen1, the Pikas Light Ball needed a Gen1 Yellow Pikachu traded. Iirc Silver powder was a butterfree. I think Scope Lens even was one of those odd trade items?
Hell yes!!!! 6 videos in the month of October?? Did I miss a Month of JRoss11 announcement or something??? Not that I'm complaining or anything like that...any time JRose11 drops a video is a GREAT day to me!!!!
One thing this series is incredible at is teaching mainly metagame battlers like me how seemingly rubbish pokémon are actually super well thought-out and useful in the closed ecosystem of their own games. -Especially gen 1. Farfetch is not meant to be a game-ender by itself, but its early set-up and terrible stats teaches the player how to use said set-up moves to improve an otherwise inferior-looking Fearow clone into a monster. All of this I just realised. This is amazing.
@@franslair2199not true, just look at onix. plenty of people have explained that onix is bad on purpose as a first boss for the player. it's extremely bulky but not very strong to teach the player about regular defense and special and super effective moves. if you try to ko onix with tackle it isn't going to be easy. but even if you use ember from charmander it does more damage even if it's not effective bc of stats.
2:45 has me puzzled. If sand attack doesn't affect bide, that should mean it bypasses accuracy checks. That should also make it immune to gen 1 misses though? What am i missing here?
@@justinmadrid8712 but it can't really Be. Gen 1 miss comes from erroneus coding of the accuracy check. No check, no gen 1 miss. I think Jrose is remembering wrong or there was something else going on.
@@otsokarhu9695 Swift and Bide are just handled differently in the game's code. Swift skips the final 0-256 roll, and Bide does not skip it. Presumably, Bide also ignores accuracy reduction in the 'Accuracy' part of the formula, which is calculated before the 0-256 roll. Other moves like Haze and Transform also ignore accuracy reductions. I am not sure if they can get a Gen 1 miss though. Basically, Swift is a special move that is programmed to never miss, even if the target is using Fly or Dig.
So happy. Farfetch'd has been my favorite Pokémon since i was a kid and got a cheap toy of him at a gas station...the 90's were weird. Always loved his attitude
Farfetch'd legit rolled the Kanto region...I thought there was NO WAY this would work, but it did. Farfetch'd, man... ...btw, JRose, how do you feel about Farfetch'd getting BOTH a Galar form AND the Galar form getting an evolution?
So that's why I loved playing with Farfetch'd in my very first playthrough as a child. I just loved that there was a bird holding a reek and smacking people with it. But now I know he was actually awesome!
Idea for a future challenge, if it can be done: doing these challenges with beta/cut pokemon. I know there's at least one full gen2 hack that has all the Spaceworld beta mons in it and I wouldn't be surprised if there's something similar for gen1.
I had a level 97 Farfetch’d in my first play through of Pokémon when I was 7 years old. It was my only strong Pokémon. Since I got it in a trade it (it was the DUX pokemon) it wouldn’t listen to me half the time until I got the last badge. It took me a LONG time to finally beat the Elite 4. I didn’t know any better so I skipped moves like Swords dance and just Slashed and Fury Attacked my way through everything until I ran out of PP. I was in the first grade and thought the game was just naturally that difficult. I’m happy to see Farfetch’d get some recognition.
I want you to know: I’ve been watching your content for years, but never gave you my sub or likes. But you finally did Farfetch’d. Take my sub and my like
Farfetch'd did good considering its stats. My question when I was younger was why it carried a leak. It wasnt until much later in later gens that I understood. Kudos to you, Farfetch'd. Awesome job!
That's so cool that Farfetch'd was so highly ranked. I've always liked him. But I never used him because I had a Pidgeotto or Fearow by this time. I found out in XY that he was actually quite strong early on, when none of the pokemon are evolved. I think I might give DUX a chance next time I play Red and Blue.
Protip: if your Gen 1 moveset is rocking two or more boosting moves, remember that they each reset their affected stat's badge boost to the normal +12.5%. In other words, using Swords Dance will cancel the extra ATK badge boost from all prior uses of Agility, and vice versa. Don't alternate if you can help it, and boost the stat you want to be the absolute highest first.
Thanks! I was just wondering how swords dance would interact with Badge boost 😊
My Gpd what does gen 1 do right?
@@mlpfanboy1701 Everything.
A gen 1 Farfetch'd not named Dux is the most unbelievable aspect of this run
Was that even possible without cheats, before breeding in Gen2?
@DanielHarveyDyer yes, they were available in the wild in yellow
True lol
Whatever developer decided that back in Red/Blue had a sick sense of humor.
@@keithmcguffey5850I didn't know this lol. Could u get 150 in yellow?
Moltres waiting in Victory Road calling itself a legendary bird when the real legendary bird was waiting in Vermilion City the whole time.
Fanfics make the trio into Lugia's she-dogs for the stuff in the 2nd movie.
@@MasterKnightDH?
Farfetch'd beating Tauros is something else, really shows you what a pokemon can achieve with good moves
And just below Dragonite
But Tauros HAS good moves. It's just that Sword Dance + Badge Boost is insane.
@@EwMatiasShould've said good boosting options
@@atc_wro Yeah Tauros has never had good boosting moves even to this day. It being Male only with no pre-evolution also completely killed is egg move potential.
@@DisplayThisOkayuntil at least gen 9.
“Strong Pokémon. Weak Pokémon. That is only the selfish perception of people. Truly skilled trainers should try to win with their favorites. I like your style. You understand what’s important.”
10/10 bruv
Facts, people care more about meta than actually developing strats anymore,its why competitive gameplay gets dull and boring,atleast in my opinion.
@@shane8039 i mean, since i like playing with my gbc or sp, especially in japanese, i literally play alone, so no competitive play😂 buuut i still enjoy having pysduck and slowpoke in my gen 1 parties. Use the pokemon you like, dat it
"It's one thing to enjoy leisurely battles, but real battles can be a severe trial. Truly strong Trainers sometimes must be prepared to choose Pokemon that can win rather than their favorite Pokemon."
I was 11 years old when Pokémon came out in 1999 and even then there was only one rule:
The strongest Pokémon will be on the team.
Oak's words in the end were a joke when I read them.
I was the better Gary.
Arcanine is based on the mythical Chinese lion-dogs. You can see their statues guarding temples. That's why Arcanine is called the "legendary" pokemon.
And also why it has a Rock type variant.
@@Accrovideogames And why it roars, I forgot to say that was why I was sharing that.
They are called Shishi (or Jishi).
Fun fact.. they're all Yokai/ayakashi/mononoke
@@RollingCalf Eh, a lot are directly based on yokai, but many more aren't. Unless you mean a lot of pokemon serve as "modern yokai" which I agree with. Drifloon as a balloon that tries to kidnap children but fails cause it can't actually pick them up is top tier joke yokai.
Hey, how’s my old FarFetch’d doing?
The funny thing is that farfetch'ds low base speed actually helps it not crit as often to benefit more from swords dance in gen 1 lol
I love to see DUX sweep through the whole game with some simple setup. It's ironic that crits were the lose condition here considering what game freak would go on to make Farfetch'd focus on right after by introducing the Stick.
clicking slash is Farfetch'd's niche in 7U too
@@franslair2199what is 7U?
@ Lowest possible tier in competitive Red and Blue. Legal Pokémon are Beedrill, Charmeleon, Clefairy, Cubone, Ditto, Doduo, Eevee, Ekans, Farfetch'd, Geodude, Gloom, Golbat, Goldeen, Grimer, Growlithe, Hitmonchan, Ivysaur, Jigglypuff, Kabuto, Koffing, Krabby, Machop, Magikarp, Magnemite, Mankey, Meowth, Nidorina, Nidorino, Paras, Pidgeotto, Psyduck, Rattata, Rhyhorn, Shellder, Spearow, Squirtle, Tentacool, Venonat, Voltorb, Vulpix
@ pokemon perfect, an alternative to smogon, has a different tiering system, where 1U 2U and 3U are analogous to OU UU NU (there's no RU in RBY), but it goes down all the way to 7U. The top threat of 7U is Meowth (who also clicks slash).
@@franslair2199Having "an alternative" to Smogon instead of just making another metagame on Smogon is stupid
i used Farfetch'd back when the game came out and quickly learned how insanely powerful it can get thanks to SD and Agility. Used it again in Gen 2 and swept most of the E4 with SD and Fury Cutter. I love this little duck so much.
The Japanese word for "roar" ほえる actually signifies just a loud animal sound and would also include things such as barking or howling. In fact, the most commonly used kanji is 吠える which, features the character for "mouth" next to the character for "dog". This is just something lost in translation.
So you're saying we could get a screaming Goat Pokemon with roar?
@@spindash64 a screaming goat with dogmouth, apparently
I was not expecting this to be one of the best runs ever. Probably my favourite run ever, due to you Body Slamming it right to the end
I always liked Farfetch'd's look and wanted to use it. After watching this, I'll use it on my next gen 1 run
I've never clicked one of your videos so fast! This is my favorite Pokemon! So happy to see the title and thumbnail!!
Based farfetch'd enjoyer
i've had a very complicated relationship with farfetch'd over the years but came to love it eventually. this video is right up my alley.
"I don't like sand (attack), it's coarse and irritating. And gets everywhere in my attack slot menu."
- Jrose Skywalker 😂
This run reminds of back when I used to do Pokemon Emerald solo runs, as Zangoose is great for the same reason that Farfetch'd is. Like Farfetch'd, it gets Swords Dance early, except imagine Farfetch'd with Physical Ghost and Fighting coverage and much better Attack and Speed. Seriously, Zangoose is a beast.
I just used a zangoose for the first time (doing a mammal run) and it thrashed norman. I was very surprised that it smacked him around so well
I don't think you've been using Zangoose in emerald runs, seeing as I distinctly remember it being the last pokemon to fill my dex, seeing as nobody I knew had a ruby edition.
Minus trade and glitches, I don't think it's obtainable in emerald.
@@Alice_Fumo No, I did. I just used cheats to hack it in early.
@@Yuzrnaime ah, I see
Meanwhile it took me months to hunt down anyone at school who could trade me one hahah
@@Alice_Fumo I always thought it was stupid that Zangoose was removed from Emerald anyway, yet Seviper was always in the game. Then again, third versions of older Pokemon games have always had weird Pokemon removals, like no Mareep in Crystal.
Just the fact that your back uploading these videos makes me smile JRose! You helped a lot of us keep going at one point or the other..
A true testament to how good boosting moves are.
Just imagine this run without swords dance and agility.
No boosting moves will be what the spearow run will be
Given farfetch'd is based on the old Japanese story of a hungry person being lost and coming across a "duck bearing Leeks" which of course the joke being that that duck is carrying food the guy is going to eat along with it it's understandable that farfetch'd is meant to be a joke Pokemon, given it's based on a joke and all. But it still kind of sucks that it's stats realy are that awful, nevermind that he was supposed to get an evolution in Gen2 that was cut.. So it's nice to see this tasty duck getting some love
It have finally a evolution in Gen8 called Sirfetch'd
By using Swords Dance and Agility you technically get two moves that contribute to the badge boost glitch.
But they both raise your stats by two stages meaning you can only use them three times. So stat boost wise they are equal to a 1-stage boosting move that you can use six times.
That's true but it still makes it insanely OP. @@jmdefault
But they cancel each other's badge boost, i.e., upon using swords dance you lose (glitched) badge boost in atk and upon using agility you lose (glitched) badge boosts in speed. So the only thing really benefiting twice are the defenses.
@patrickwienhoft7987 true, but you don't lose that insane amount from atk or spd when you level up
It's crazy how as a kid playing this game I always went for slash as my primary attack because it always _seemed_ to be the strongest. Now, knowing the mechanics of the game, I don't know why I ever played the game with Farfetch'd the way I did. I'm pretty sure I rarely used Swords Dance, and never put Body Slam on it.
Well, you only have access to one Body Slam TM, and there were likely more alluring candidates for that.
Autocrit slash isn't terrible, it's just not solo run material.
If you keep it in back to ignore defensive boosts, that's a niche
As kids we enjoyed the game and didn't think of it as a buggy mess.
Well, you're already superior to most kids, including myself, who always went for stuff like Fire Blast, Solar Beam and Hyper Beam, because of course they're the strongest move! :')
@@DaikoruArtwin Fire Blast isn't ever really a bad pick on something that gets it to be fair.
I mean outside of gen 1.
I love the color scheme this time around, the dark green for the overworld sprites with the yellow looks so amazing!
It looks awful in the title screen but then works so nicely in the game!
@@blastoiseddrIt works in both, the dark green works so well there too.
I don’t know what I love more: how non-clickbait your title was or the song reference in the trainer + rival names
So Lorelei not only has "good AI", which is the coloquial name for one of 3 AI routines NPCs can have, she actually has all 3.
The first is to prevent the AI from using a status move on a pokemon which already has a non-volatile status condition.
The 3rd is the famous and buggy "good AI" which favors super effective moves.
And the 2nd is the one that was responsible for Lorelei's Dewgong using Growl against Farfetch'd.
It is also quite buggy, my guess is that it was intended to encourage the AI to use stat boosting moves on itself or stat reducing moves on the opponent at the start of the fight, but what it actually does is favor a specific set of move effects, but only on the *second* turn of battle of each of its pokemon.
The moves favored by this routine are the following :
all stat boosting moves, all stat reducing moves, Pay day, Swift, Conversion, Haze, Reflect, Light screen, Transform, and all healing moves
Since Growl is a stat reducing move, it is favored by this routine, making it as likely to be picked as super effective moves, but since this routine works only on the second turn, that's why you will never see Lorelei's Dewgong use Growl on any other turn when Aurora Beam is super effective, because Aurora Beam is favored on every turn. This is also true of Rest.
So in conclusion, Lorelei's pokemon can all have their "good AI" derailed on their second turn by this other AI routine if they have eligible moves. Slowbro has 3, so it is very prone to it for example. This AI routine isn't very common, the only trainer classes that have it are : Super Nerd, Pokemaniac, Psychic, Scientist and Lorelei.
sounds like it was specifically designed and intended to nerf Slowpoke to make it an easier Pokemon to battle wherever you see it.
Juggler and Gentleman have it too (if the speedrun wiki is correct).
Lorelei and Pokemaniac are the only trainers that have both Good AI and the turn 2 routine.
I had a feeling something weird might happen to stop Dewgong using an Ice move, but then I thought that's just Yellow. I had no idea the turn 2 routine could override super effective moves until now.
This was super informative, and it goes to show how ridiculously well understood this horrifically buggy game is
@@impossibledream3973 You're right about Gentleman, I saw it in the code but forgot to list it!
Juggler is a bit of a special case, the class that has routine 2 is not used by any trainer, all the jugglers actually use another class, also called Juggler, but which has only the 1st routine.
Fun fact : the duplicate Juggler class is one of two unused classes, the other being the Chief class. It doesn't contain any trainer data, and is listed in the "Evil trainer" category (which is used to choose the pre-fight music). Make of that what you will. My guess is Chief was a beta Giovanni.
Love to see it! Farfetch'd is one of my favorite pokemon, Sirfetch'd my all time fave. Glad to see the lil quack succeed at something!
Just so you know accuracy decreases are easier to understand than you'd think, they're always less effective after the first because of how it works.
-1 stage = 3/4 accuracy
-2 stage = 3/5 accuracy
-3 stage = 3/6 accuracy(1/2)
-4 stage = 3/7 accuracy
-5 stage = 3/8 accuracy
-6 stage = 3/9 accuracy(1/3)
It's not that there's a decline in effectiveness after 3 uses, each one just increases the divisor by 1 which results in the gradually reducing effect(3/8 to 3/9 is obviously a smaller effect than 3/3 to 3/4 or 3/4 to 3/5)
is it aways like that or only gen 1?
According to bulbapedia in gen 1 they used slightly different multipliers, namely 66/100, 50/100, 40/100, 33/100, 28/100 and 25/100. I think you misunderstood what jrose was hinting at.
Imagine you know your mon can knock out the geodude with exactly 6 hits. You could either attack 6 times and get hit 5 times in the worst case ( assuming you outspeed ). Or you decide to set up one sand attack. Though you give geodude one more turn to attack, the expected value of received hits (assuming he always tries to attack) until you knock him out is now 66/100 * 6 ≈ 4.
Going for two sand attacks geodudes expected connected hit count goes down to 66/100 + 50/00 * 6 ≈ 3.67 so 3 or more likely four hits. For the next sand attack this number is 3.5 and for the fourth it goes up to ~3.507 again. Remember that the whole point of setting up sand-attack is to get hit as little as possible.
@@Vigaberno You are correct! 2/3, 2/4, 2/5, 2/6, 2/7, and 2/8 are used in Gen 1, which mirrors all other stat stage modifications. These ratios are used in all future generations for every stat except accuracy/evasion.
For battles as long as the one against Geodude (26±3 turns), it actually makes sense to go for more than 3 Sand Attacks. If you're going to be attacked 8 or more times, then every Sand Attack is an improvement, even the weakest sixth. The accuracy of the incoming attack doesn't affect that 8-attack threshold, but we'll use the 95% accurate Tackle as an example:
Attacked 8 times: 7.6 hits.
Attacked 9 times, but one Sand Attack was set up before the first attack: 5.7 hits.
Attacked 10 times, but a second Sand Attack was set up before the second attack: 4.91 hits.
Attacked 11 times, but a third Sand Attack was set up before the third attack: 4.53 hits.
Attacked 12 times, but a fourth Sand Attack was set up before the fourth attack: 4.34 hits.
Attacked 13 times, but a fifth Sand Attack was set up before the fifth attack: 4.25 hits.
Attacked 14 times, but a sixth Sand Attack was set up before the sixth attack: 4.21 hits.
In Gen 1, you can subtract 2 from the number of times you'd expect to be attacked in a battle without accuracy/evasion setup, and that's how many accuracy/evasion modifications it's worth setting up ON AVERAGE. Of course, the "expected" number of hits might be more appropriately considered as the MODAL result and not the average, but that's a piecewise function I can't summarize in text.
I always remember it as "normal is 2/2", then raising stats ups the numerator (3/2, 4/2, etc) while decreasing stats ups the denominator (2/3, 2/4, etc)
@@VullVullthat's true for attack, defense, speed, and special. But accuracy and evasion are special
The reason Lorelei's Dewgong uses Growl sometimes here is because Lorelei has the relatively uncommon AI Modification 2. This causes her to prioritize status moves on the second turn each of her Pokémon is in battle, apparently to the same extent that AI Modification 3 (aka "Good AI") prioritizes super effective moves. (For the record, AI Modification 1 strongly deprioritizes moves that inflict non-volatile status conditions, such as Toxic or Sleep Powder, when your active Pokémon already has a non-volatile status condition. Most trainer classes in the game have this.)
Love this!! Farfetch'd is my absolute favorite Pokemon. I'm so happy it did so good 💜
Farfetch'd, the Pokemon that stole our hearts.
This Pokemon does not get the respekt it deserves.
One of the few times you don't talk about the color scheme, and this is my favorite one you've done so far. Spot on!
The AI isn't programmed to use Growl just because you used Swords Dance. Lorelei uses AI Routine Modification #2, which on the second turn prioritizes any move that does something other than just deal damage. But that applies to all four of Dewgong's moves.
Interesting, I always thought her AI was specifically boosting Rest only
Thanks for all the frequent content as of late, JRose and SimplyAJ!! (I want to make sure you get credit too!! You help make these frequent uploads possible!)
Edit: OMG I just noticed the Rival and MC's names. 10/10
Pikasprey already did RBY Ditto with your ruleset, and while it's possible, due to how Struggle interactions with Mirror Move and Disable it can softlock/freeze your game with the only way out to turn the Game Boy off and on.
I need to go back and watch those videos but didnt Pikasprey save between Elite Four members?
@@coryfusting9294That wouldn't really affect it being possible or not, it would just make it more consistent.
Farfetch'd is so good in Fire Red and Leaf Green too, as the traded one comes with a stick and a adamant nature. I did a ingame trade only playthrough of fire red awhile ago and Farfetch'd hard carried.
I saw this. I immediately think this idea is far fetched but who knows.
I wish Pokémon were real so I could have sex with them.
😂😂😂
Boooo 😂
You’re so punny
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I'm super glad with all the videos you're uploading, now that you mention it, it would be cool to see a Ditto Solo Run as a part of the Impossible Challenge series.
Pikasprey did one and it was such a gen 1 run it revealed a bug.
@@arciks11what Kind of bug it Shows? You can‘t use struggle taktic, but everything Else should be Fine.
@@Matrix3000plusIt was that exact bug. During the Koga fight, he was suddenly stuck with Transform at 0 PP, but the game refusing to let him Struggle - but this was *not* the case for any other battle, iirc.
@@somegalnamedseelpit3713wasn't it the exact opposite? he had to do the rest of the run transform only
it also didn't happen during koga because the bug is caused by using mirror move when transformed
If you want to see gen 1 ditto run there is the Pikasprey video. I personally am not interested in seeing Jrose do that run, I'd be more interested in seeing how it fares in the more recent generations, especially since struggle mechanics have been changed
Lt. Surge got demoted SO MANY TIMES that his rank had an integer underflow, making him instantly the highest rank possible.
So the US army was like "Dude, we can't have this guy be an Elite General Space Ranger. Let's just hard-code him to lieutenant""
I’m loving the more frequent releases! Thank you Jrose for making this content digestible as well as overall DANK.
BABY BOY FARFETCH’D
My favorite Pokémon, been waiting for this for a long time.
Any jrose video is always a treat.
At the start you were saying you still need to do a ditto run, there is a game-breaking bug attached to transform you might want to keep in mind when doing the video:
If you use transform and the enemy has metronome or mirror move, don't ever use it. It will make it so you will never ever be able to use struggle with it again.
There is some bs increment/decrement of move PP going on in the background when using those moves, and in short it makes the game think you have more than zero pp on an empty move slot.
I remember watching Pikasprey's solo run of RBY with Ditto where he had this glitch happen, blowing my mind that someone figured out the cause of it!
@@dogdog53 that's where i got the explaination from
@@hellboy19991 In the comments? I thought Pikasprey didn't know why that happened in the video.
Shouldn't be a problem Pidgeot's mirror move in the final battle is likely the time it ever should ever come up. I don't think Jrose ever takes the lavender town path to Fuchsia and that's the path with the million Mirror Move Spearow using BirdKeepers plus that one lass with a Clefairy.
@@DisplayThisOkay yeah he's got no reason to use Fisherman Bridge for a few reasons:
1. not getting Water Pokemon to Stone evolve
2. Bike path faster for Speedrun
3. Also Bird Fences and Fisher Bridge slower than a basic route to walk through, bit like Viridian Forest.
4. he often saves trainers away to level up if he needs to, i think this is his hunting ground for leveling against Rival Fival
5. so he doesn't use it to get to Koga and Blaine, but once he's grinding at chokepoint trainers then he'll double back and clear everything he has access to if he really needs to.
6. but even then, Victory Road is usually more efficient and the Sea Route trainers south of Pallet Town toward Cinnabar are less time wasted than the farthest possible away corner from the Indigo Plateau on the map that's not the Power Plant.
Farfetch’d is my favorite Pokémon! Thanks so much for the upload
I was secretly hoping to see Farfetch'd for a long time. I'm so excited to see the run.
I was wondering what the heck WRVR UR meant. Then I thought to check your Trainer name.
Safe to say, I know that my heart will go out to your videos.
Glad to see some justice done on Farfetch'd's name! The traded DUX is even better and would've been about six levels higher before the Elite Four, which would've gone a long way in hitting those speed and damage thresholds. I've seen it argued in tiering discussions that its main utility is as an HM bot, but if you let it ride its bonus exp. points to be a few levels higher than the rest of the team, it is very legit as a fighter
Great run for Dux! Good job as always JRose!
Jrose is popping off with this upload frequency and i am here for it
Hey Jrose, first of all this was a fun video, I recently installed the GBA Emulator for Gen-2 (Crystal) since I was feeling nostalgic. Here's a funny little detail that just happened to me while I was watching your video. I'm south of Ecruteak City, right below on the route where the three acorn tree's are at. Mind you, I was just grinding and training a little Dratini. After probably fifteen minutes, I deal with several Stantler, random ass spiders and Hoot hoots.
Wait for it...
All of a sudden random ass Legendary Electric Dog shows up. Raikou, or whatever...so yeah, I guess mass slaughter (battling) draws the dog in. I laughed a bit, I just figured to relive my childhood when I shit my pants hearing the 'different' battle theme. Already got one Dog, time to catch the other two and find the legendary birds after I deal with Lance's goon squad. I might as well grind for the Dragonite for the fun of it. Sometimes I miss being able to play these games, it brings me back to days when things were simple yet fun when your imagination puts you in the shoes in a decently designed game.
Farfetch'd above Tauros will make gen 1 competitive players extremely salty.
"Farfetch'd can learn Body Slam?!" I exclaim over my morning coffee
I always figured Arcanine is a mix between a dog and a tiger, hence the black stripes on red/orange base color. Therefore I thought it made sense to me that it can roar x3
Based on the Chinese mythical Lion Dog.
to be fair, around the same time as your original majikarp video pikasprey also made a ditto r/b challenge that both you and him inspired the whole pokemon solo challenge run thing on youtube to begin with, but that was soooo long ago that I can't wait to see your take on it since so much new info has come out since those old videos.
Haven't seen it yet but this run about to put Mewtwo to SHAME 😎👏👏👏
Another JRose video. Let’s go!!!
Man I love your content and dedication to this series. I always love putting it the background and hearing the adventure you gave everytime. Thank you for the great videos
That was a great Farfetch’d run
About the roaring thing - it's because the japanese name is hoeru, which is barking/roaring. Hence why so many dog pokémon learn it since the japanese word is way more associated with dogs.
Fargetch'd seems like a double edged sword. It's built for badge boost, but it levels up so fast he keeps losing it.
Whoa, fantastic to see another video! Thank you so much!
My boy! Love farfetch'd. These days i always swap my starter for it.
I've been watching these runs for a few months now, and I'm always super impressed. I attempted a no capture run a little bit ago, inspired by the minimum battles run you did in red. But I played FireRed, and I think I hit a few unnecessary battles accidentally, so I just kept with my fallback of no capturing. I completed that a couple weeks ago, and it was super cool, now I'm thinking about what the next challenge I want to do is. Your videos in emerald kinda tell me that I'm NOT ready to min battles that yet lol!
YES! I've been waiting years to see you do a solo run of my favorite Pokemon. 🎉
Love your videos, so happy to see you upload that much! And farfetch is so few played it's double interesting to see you playing it
I love Farfetch'd, I've tried to make him work on a team for years, never could though. Wish he was a little faster, that thing in later gens when he gets the leek item and can crit more often is pretty neat.
He gets his signature Leek item in Gen 3 at the earliest. It's just at a 5% chance if you trade for it in Fire Red/Leaf Green
The Stick was a Gen2 introduction. But actually getting it, like many the held items, was ridiculously silly. Like Twisted Spoon needed trade an Kadabra from gen1, the Pikas Light Ball needed a Gen1 Yellow Pikachu traded. Iirc Silver powder was a butterfree. I think Scope Lens even was one of those odd trade items?
Hell yes!!!! 6 videos in the month of October?? Did I miss a Month of JRoss11 announcement or something??? Not that I'm complaining or anything like that...any time JRose11 drops a video is a GREAT day to me!!!!
One thing this series is incredible at is teaching mainly metagame battlers like me how seemingly rubbish pokémon are actually super well thought-out and useful in the closed ecosystem of their own games. -Especially gen 1. Farfetch is not meant to be a game-ender by itself, but its early set-up and terrible stats teaches the player how to use said set-up moves to improve an otherwise inferior-looking Fearow clone into a monster.
All of this I just realised. This is amazing.
You've made that up actually, an enormous amount of rubbish pokemon are rubbish because they are not well thought out at all.
@@franslair2199not true, just look at onix. plenty of people have explained that onix is bad on purpose as a first boss for the player. it's extremely bulky but not very strong to teach the player about regular defense and special and super effective moves. if you try to ko onix with tackle it isn't going to be easy. but even if you use ember from charmander it does more damage even if it's not effective bc of stats.
Instant Like, just add showcasing how debuffs help VS Brock well before you get things like Swords Dance.
2:45 has me puzzled. If sand attack doesn't affect bide, that should mean it bypasses accuracy checks. That should also make it immune to gen 1 misses though? What am i missing here?
Well obviously the formula is different than swift.
@@justinmadrid8712 but it can't really Be. Gen 1 miss comes from erroneus coding of the accuracy check. No check, no gen 1 miss. I think Jrose is remembering wrong or there was something else going on.
@@otsokarhu9695 Swift and Bide are just handled differently in the game's code. Swift skips the final 0-256 roll, and Bide does not skip it. Presumably, Bide also ignores accuracy reduction in the 'Accuracy' part of the formula, which is calculated before the 0-256 roll.
Other moves like Haze and Transform also ignore accuracy reductions. I am not sure if they can get a Gen 1 miss though.
Basically, Swift is a special move that is programmed to never miss, even if the target is using Fly or Dig.
Jrose11: This pokemon is AMAZING
Me: That sounds... Farfetch'd
When a kid with a cap and a backpack decides to go on a walk with his cracked out duck...
So happy. Farfetch'd has been my favorite Pokémon since i was a kid and got a cheap toy of him at a gas station...the 90's were weird. Always loved his attitude
Farfetch'd legit rolled the Kanto region...I thought there was NO WAY this would work, but it did. Farfetch'd, man...
...btw, JRose, how do you feel about Farfetch'd getting BOTH a Galar form AND the Galar form getting an evolution?
So that's why I loved playing with Farfetch'd in my very first playthrough as a child. I just loved that there was a bird holding a reek and smacking people with it. But now I know he was actually awesome!
Intriguing, excited to see how Farfetch’d does
You're on fire with putting out the videos. Keep it up man, I love it.
EVERYBODY STOP WHAT YOU'RE DOING JROSE HAS A NEW VIDEO
Great job Jrose and I’m very surprised to see that far fetched did well and keep up the amazing work
Idea for a future challenge, if it can be done: doing these challenges with beta/cut pokemon. I know there's at least one full gen2 hack that has all the Spaceworld beta mons in it and I wouldn't be surprised if there's something similar for gen1.
If you wanna play the game with fake Pokemon, go for it, but there isn't really enough information to go on besides one fan's imagination.
So glad to see Farfetched do this well! I wouldn't mind seeing a Ditto run at some point as well.
I really like seeing mons people dismiss actually excel in niche situations like these so I'm even more excited for this one than usual
Loving the frequency of uploads this week! Go Farfetch'd!! ❤
First
Got ya by 3 seconds :p
I had a level 97 Farfetch’d in my first play through of Pokémon when I was 7 years old. It was my only strong Pokémon. Since I got it in a trade it (it was the DUX pokemon) it wouldn’t listen to me half the time until I got the last badge. It took me a LONG time to finally beat the Elite 4. I didn’t know any better so I skipped moves like Swords dance and just Slashed and Fury Attacked my way through everything until I ran out of PP. I was in the first grade and thought the game was just naturally that difficult. I’m happy to see Farfetch’d get some recognition.
Found your channel a week ago. Currently watching all your runs!!!
Alright, that was awesome. Always had a healthy respect for Farfetch'd, so it was really cool to see it do so well here.
been wating for my boy farfetch'd for so long. thanks jrose!
Loving the frequent uploads!
I love how much you have been posting recently King👑
omg jrose youre insane. thank you for all the vids!
This duck holds a weapon but runs around body slamming everything.
Wow, it seems my request has been answered immediately. thank you, love this series
I want you to know: I’ve been watching your content for years, but never gave you my sub or likes. But you finally did Farfetch’d. Take my sub and my like
Love what you did with the player and rival names for this run 😂 Let the puns go on and on
Looking forward to that ditto run! Ive seen a few others do it but you always have a good take on it! Good Luck!
Farfetch'd did good considering its stats. My question when I was younger was why it carried a leak. It wasnt until much later in later gens that I understood. Kudos to you, Farfetch'd. Awesome job!
Leek. If it carried a leak that would be dreadful. But mmmm Beijing BBQ. (And it's really just a pun on how it's name is pronounced in Japanese. )
No way theres ANOTHER Jrose video.
I feel blessed
You're really tapping into the algorithm blessing you
Man you don't know how happy I am to see jrose uploading as much as he has been!
I was thinking about Farfetch'd a few days ago and went to check if you'd done one of these yet, so glad that the very next one you upload is it!
3:29 "In fact, according to a math person I know..."
Idk why this just sent me laughing like crazy lol, great video as always
That's so cool that Farfetch'd was so highly ranked. I've always liked him. But I never used him because I had a Pidgeotto or Fearow by this time. I found out in XY that he was actually quite strong early on, when none of the pokemon are evolved. I think I might give DUX a chance next time I play Red and Blue.