How FAST can you beat Pokemon Red/Blue with just a Hypno?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 มิ.ย. 2022
- Psychic Pokemon tend to be overpowered in Generation 1 Pokemon games, but how about one that is slow and with a bad movepool. Surely it will struggle... right?
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Rules and Explanations
Rules: (1) Only use the one Pokémon in Battle, others for HMs are fine. (2) No Items in battle (3) No Glitches* (4) Set Mode (5) No saving in the Elite Four (6) No evasion moves
Badge Boost "Glitch" Explanation: When you collect odd numbered badges the game boosts a stat by 12.5%. Brock gives ATK, Surge DEF, Koga SPE, and Blaine SPC (in game text is wrong). When any of your stats are modified (even by you using a move like Withdraw, or your opponent using Leer) the badge boosts are re-applied. So If you use Swords Dance, you also gain *an additional 12.5% in Speed/Defence/Special (on top of the 12.5% you were supposed to be getting). When you level up, the game corrects this error, and only the non-glitch 12.5% remains. Because of how difficult it is to avoid, I've allowed for it to be exploited, since opponents will spam Leer/Growl anyways, and this way battles are less random. Red/Blue are extremely buggy, so there's always going to be some glitches present, and because of how unavoidable this one is, it is allowed in runs, and considered more like a special Generation 1 mechanic as opposed to a glitch. - เกม
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“I forgot I had Hypnosis.” If only you could have remembered the name of the Pokémon you were doing the run with!
In fairness, Lickitung doesn't get Lick in this game. The name alone doesn't mean much in RBY
That’s fair.
Well tbh brock got like 6full heal so hypnosis wouldn't have helped
@@Laezar1 10. 5 for each of his Pokémon. They were clearly afraid of butterfree.
@@vivecanada1 I remember beating Brock with Butterfree Confusion spam anyway
You know this run is going to go well when he's halfway through the video and _isn't_ at the elite four
Also, the video is not 50 minutes long.
You know this person is going to be cool when their profile pic has an allay
I'd argue the opposite cause that means he struggles at the elite 4 and it's easier to beat the pregame than the elite 4 and champ
@@rubixtheslime fax
@@drew4126 well if you're halfway through the video and he is already at the elite four, it means he struggles harder at the elite four
Would honestly be curious how Aerodactyl would do with its high critical-hit rate yet terrible movepool.
Good point, but high critical hit means that no badge boost glitch
@@fireenergy711 Oh god you're right. No wonder the thing went extinct.
Looking at his moves I think it be pretty much just fly after you get it. Maybe hyper beam if you can hit
Lorelei. Enough said. She makes any Rock and Ground type a nightmare. Especially on Aero without Rock Slide.
Its good in rby. Those games are ass and too easy. Plus normal moves are good on that game
i honestly cannot believe i’ve watched this man run Gen 1 so many times and every time it’s still so entertaining
Waiting patiently for the starmie run, has all the tools we'd expect from a top tier gen 1 run
Jynx and starmie both obliterate the game after misty
@@YOSSARIAN313 Psychic type op op
Doesn't it have a shit move pool without TMs? That'd make brock and misty pretty difficult.
@@cmck362 it starts with water gun, which trivializes Brock. But yeah- no moves to make Misty any less of a chore.
I got an earlier Starmie run on my channel. Water gun seems alright for the start but it makes the route to Bill's and even Misty a little bit of a slog. You also don't really get any moves until you make it past Surge and get to Celadon. It has one of the better mid to late games but that start puts it down on the list. For me personally that does tier lists of my own, Mewtwo, Nidoking, Cloyster, Alakazam, Zapdos, Mew, Gengar have all been faster than it.
“Military gift shop manager surge” just skipped private surge to something even funnier
"You see, Hypno only starts off with Confusion"
*stares at Hypnosis and Disable*
I know you know how broken those moves are Gen 1.
Watch the Jigglypuff run. He explains why those moves aren't helpful vs. Brock.
How is disable broken? I get that gen one sleep is OP but teach me about disable.
@@ghoum56 It's not more broken in Gen 1 than it is in later gens, but it can prevent Geodude and Onix from attacking.
You've forgotten that disable is even less accurate than Hypnosis in gen 1 and only disables a random move, so disabling Geodude's Tackle is even less likely than hitting a OHKO move, and trying to disable Onix's Bide is probably worse than the Agatha lottery.
Also Brock has 5 Full Heal per pokemon, so it's really not worth the time trying to status them.
disable is garbage lol
The luck in this run was like a pendulum, constantly swinging back and forth
I see what you did there....
Baaack and fooorth... baaack and fooorth...
The extra bulk makes it way less of a glass canon so overall its a much easier time. To be able to boost with meditate surely also was a big plus.
Keep this up Jrose, you've been on fire recently.
Don't pressure him 😅
@@StatusQuonald Sorry wasn't trying to, was hoping he would retain the momentum is all.
@@TigerFestival1988 we all are 😄
I love how Lt. Surge has become the punching bag of the run now that Bruno has given him trouble a few times.
Ensign Surge hasn't been fed water types for a while to begin with.
I love Hypno. When I played gen 1 as a kid I usually caught Drowzee instead of Abra. Hypno quickly became a staple in future playthroughs.
The reason I had Hypno was because all the other kids in my class had Alakazam. I wanted to my own person, not the twentieth kid with an Alakazam.
All the kids traded? I can never find anyone. Also, I agree
Agreed. I intentionally stopped using my Kadabra last time I played for partly because everyone uses it and Alakazam. That and it's a little too good in Gen 1.
@@raziyatheseeker Yep. People always chasing whatever is overpowered... Goof balls with no personality
Drowzee is my favourite.
He eats dreams for breakfast.
So much better than dealing with Abra.
Although Abra does let me do that glitch where you can get Mew b4 you fight Misty ...
Abra is harder to catch than drowzee though. The latter all you have to do is get him low health than catch. Abra will teleport after your first move (attack or pokeball). I’m usually not one to follow the crowd but I gotta say they’re all right in this case. Alakazam slaps..
This is gonna be good, the drozee & hypno line is my favorite. Thanks JRose. And and BTW he can learn body slam lol
that why he picks up bodyslam at 4.45
@@jamesworkshop9181 I think he means drowzee can learn it too
We appreciate the increase in videos Jrose, keep up the good job
I always felt like Gen 1 Hypno was nuts. Bulky, great typing, and gets outstanding benefits from the combined Special stat.
Trying facing Tradebacks Hypno
Amensia Hypno is basically Mini-Mewtwo
14:18 - To clarify something about the badge boost from a software developer's perspective, I think when you level up the game won't be realizing the stats are wrong, it would run some code to recalculate your stats as you said, from your base stats and anything else that would apply including the single badge boosts that you're supposed to have.
I guess when the developers implemented the badge boost they would have put it at the point in the code where stats are altered, not realizing this code also runs whenever stats change, or maybe forgetting to put a condition there so that the badge boost only applies at the start of battle or on a level up. Even if the devs were aware of this "bug" before the game was released, it would have been seen as a minor issue and not prioritized. Given how many bugs there are in the game I'd assume they were really up against it to complete the game before release so they would have focused on fixing more serious bugs.
Additionally, green/red classic was the games that started game freak itself, wasn't it?
@@CarissaNomadic As a independent company yes. But many at gamefreak had previous experience with other games. (Most notably Earthbound)
@@DisplayThisOkay Oh! I should've known, but I didn't. Thanks for letting me know. ^^
While Hypno performed exceptionally well, this run is also a great showcase of how screwed over some Pokémon were by the Special stat split, another one being Dewgong (which should receive better stats or an evolution in a future generation IMO － perhaps Ursaluna-style, which doesn't make it so that only a regional variant can evolve). I'm interested in seeing how a run with Seel or Dewgong would go!
You might wanna check out Scott's thoughts run, he did one with Seel.
It also proves that the Seel line was only made for Generation 1 since Seel, despite getting a time comparable to most other unevolved Pokémon, felt like a Tangela time and Dewgong is literally at its best in Gen 1 and it still did not do that great.
The mega-evolution was a nice way for those pokemon to get a bit of love. If they'd stick to it.
Anyway, Hypno would really appreciate it's SA and SD to be switched, and get one of it's talent changed for no guard, making it a dreadfull dream eater with enough bulk to stay on the field and do stuff.
@@iantaakalla8180 they’ve since made better versions of Dewgong
Knowing Nintendo they'll make a regional dewgong variant with dual ice/steel typing so that it's 4 times weak to fire and not any better than the regular
Fun Fact: Hypno is the only pokemon that sees/saw play in RBY Ubers, OU, and UU. The tiers are determined by usage, and by usage Hypno is in UU, however it saw niche but respectable usage in OU and Ubers as a psychic type counter, since psychic is the only good type that can take a hit from psychic types, and Hypno has access to hypnosis with gen 1 OP sleep mechanics. It saw play in OU as a potential counter to Exeggutor and Alakazam, and in Ubers as a potential counter to Mewtwo (for reference: the only real Mewtwo counter in Ubers is another Mewtwo, so this is actually a fairly useful role). In UU it operated as both a standard sweeper and a psychic counter again.
Source: False Swipe Gaming
FSG represent! I love their videos!
its crazy that across three different tiers people were stacking 6 hypnos. really goes to show how fucking powerful it is
@@briarsystem4316 I mean, no, because you can only run one of each Pokémon species, but I could absolutely see people doing that if there was some sort of exception of Hypno or Pokémon from lower tiers
8:51 Actually Tangela has really high Special. What it lacks, is HP. It has rather low to very low HP, depending on how you view it. So that's why it's still easy to knock out. It can take resisted hits like a boss though.
I honestly feel funny about putting Hypno below Gengar. Gengar has Speed, but it's also Psychic weak and has to bend the knee to anything Psychic since its movepool is just Special moves, Hypnosis (which Hypno also has), and... that's about it.
The typing also grants it a damn near immunity to the early-game due to Normal immunity, though, so...
@@CyberchaoX I want to stress something here. Tangela only having Grass and Normal-type attacks isn't necessarily bad or weird for a Grass-type, look at Bellsprout, he did great.
It's bad for Tangela because he has the shittiest moves for both. Constrict until it learns fucking ABSORB at like Lv28? Which despite however weak Absorb is, it's literally over twice as strong as Constrict. WTF.
it also has better movepool in general so that makes it easier for coverage. the only place it really struggles is psychic.
@@acumenium8157 I really don't think the fact the lowest Tangela you can catch is around 36 is a good enough excuse for this.
After letting it go for a few episodes to see how I feel, I wanna offer my opinion on the new intro spot in the video. And personally, I love it. I feel the cold open explaining the run flows great into the intro.
I used a Hypno in my pokemon Yellow playthrough, and I was honestly amazed at how good it was. I mean, sure, it's a psychic type, but its movepool leaves a lot to be desired. I ended up using Psychic/Hypnosis/Dream Eater, with its last slot used for flash. While only have 1 type of move on a pokemon might seem odd, it worked effectively - the Psychic type was very op, and I managed to bully my way past Sabrina using Hypnosis + Dream Eater as well.
The only move psychic-type really needs outside of a challenge playthrough like this is psychic lol.
Psychic type is OP in gen1, only Psychic itself resist it
Hypno is a very good mon in just about every gen ive done runs on. Drowzee sucks but hypno has good defense and average attack. You can definitely start a nuzlocke with it and be very well off. Like just as easy as a starter.
Thanks for the run! Mr. Mime will be extremely good when you get to him.
Any Pokémon that can easily coast through a minimum battles run is gonna be up there.
I've never been a fan of Hypno either, so it was awesome seeing how well it performed in a solo challenge~ Excellent work, as always!
I really hate that creepy thing with a passion. And that it's the antagonist in Mr. Prinz Pokémon Nightfall doesn't help it either.
Love the rival and player names :) great video again! Love seeing some of the less used evolution lines have time to shine!
I played pokemon blue kaizo recently and i really appreciate that bruno lost his spot on the elite 4.
Would love to see a kaizo run from you in the future as well, you've got some of the most impressive gen1 knowledge and strats of any youtuber I've seen and it'd be awesome to see
I unironically love Hypno. It was always my Psychic mon as a kid and I still often play with one, especially when I replay Gen 1.
EDIT: I wasn't expecting the exact brand of demotion for Surge, and I just about lot it at his new title.
Mine was kadabra. But truth be told, I almost always chose pokemon by the cool factor.
Now it's interesting to think how Drowzee and Kadabra would do.
Love these shorter videos at times. Having runs where there isn't like 30 mins at the E4 is good.
Holy crap we are getting blessed with all these videos!! This is awesome
I was not expecting Hypno to be placed where it was looking at the total time for the video. Great job on the video!
Probably below Gengar and Alakazam, but pretty fast given psychic type and good stats
Jrose you are BRINGING IT this past month! It’s like Christmas every couple days seeing a new upload from you!
Hypno did great. You did great too! Such a fun run, you're honestly doing amazing. Thank you for all the awesome videos, I'm always excited when I see the next one to watch.
Just finished rewatching this entire series and now a new episode drops. :)
Barb and Poo reference = man of culture. Great video as always Jrose.
Staryu or Starmie could absolutely clean house on these runs (STAB surf, STAB psychic, recover, harden and a huge move pool. Nuff said)
starmie isn't good until celadon
Slow level up group though
Wow, I can't wait what are the crazy new videos that are coming out soon! Jrose never lets me down.
5:11 “ this time with a crit”
Kadabra crit both times. Love the run by the way
I very much appreciated the names being Barb and GPB. :)
GPB would bit be happy being the crappy rival in real life, way more of a Barb vibe coming from the rival
Glad to see you posting vids back to back, keep it going champ!
These videos being more frequent is amazing! So much love man! Been here since you're forth video! Amazing to see the strata evolving along with your channel!
While you have definitely improved with these runs, it’s the little things like not being quite so stubborn regarding minimum battles, instead taking on easy trainers you can defeat very quickly, and as a result of that, grabbing Body Slam which has been tremendous in the runs you’ve chosen to get it. Thanks for another great video!
*WELP* Looks like I won't be sleeping tonight. Don't want Hypno haunting my dreams.
Yeeeeeeees, my favourite psychic pokemon, and 3rd overall!
I have no idea how this will go, but I know its gonna be interesting, what an awesome thing to wake up to in my feed.
Cheers dude!
really enjoying this new upload schedule. These videos really help get me through the week and satisfy the data-driven part of my brain. Thanks, Jrose!
I liked Hypno because you can't get an Alakazam in a normal playthrough.
My favorite Psychic pokemon, Non-Legendary, was Starmie. Great move coverage.
I remember blitzing the game with a Starmie with Surf, Psychic, Ice Beam and Thunderbolt. Makes me want to replay now
@@bwoooooooooop yep Starmie sweeps practically everything with that moveset
I really like Hypno. I don't know why but I think he is pretty neat. He's always my MVP in Crystal runs.
Keep pumping these out! They are really well done and great entertainment
Oh yeah baby! Hypno's a favorite of mine, ever since my first time playing FireRed and XD it proved to be a great Mixed Attacker.
Thanks for the video JRose, keep it up and looking forward to future runs! ^^
Jrose videos always be comin in clutch
Been catching up...huge fan!
You finally taught me why my double team mewtwo crushed with swift and psychic
Good stuff jrose! So nice to see you consistently uploading again. This run is crazy, you did very well on it. Keep it coming, man
I was so happy seeing you finally talk to that one sleepy guy in Viridian; my favorite move, and the one I leaned so heavily upon in my first ever playthrough of the game, had been waiting in the wings for precisely this moment!
...Okay, no, you're right -- gotta save it for a really dramatic moment. It's gonna be _so rad._
......Ah. Alas.
Didn’t expect a vid from you today yet alone this run and it was incredible. Looking forward to the next !
Even though I like Kadabra more, I still really like Hypno a lot. Awesome run as always, Jrose! I can’t wait to see the Cubone or Marowak run though.
Great to see another video, always makes my day, I was worried for a bit that you might be on hiatus for a long time but 3 great videos back to back to back is great to see.
This is the on I was waiting for!! I wish the video was longer tho. Thanks man, I will enjoy!
I wonder how well starmie will do when you get to it. It's a strong, fast psychic type, and it actually has a good movepool unlike Alakazam. In fact, I'd say it has one of the best movepools in the game with access to Psychic, Thunderbolt, Ice Beam, Surf, and even Harden if you want to try to badge boost your way through some fights. The only potential hurdles will be Misty and Surge, but after that things should be really easy.
And at least Brock will be really easy since it learns water gun at level 1. Sadly, the same won't be true for Staryu, which has to wait all the way until level 17 for water gun...
Starmie was always on my team as a kid due to its amazing type coverage. I'd also love to see his run with it.
It might struggle because it only gets that coverage with tms.
Not really sure. It has a nice speed, and bubblebeam crit may do the work. But let's wait and see ! :)
Definitely a more relaxed run than the last two lol
Don't stop uploading dude, these videos are keeping me sane
Free from work and get this amazing video dropped. Thanks man! Made my night! Absolutely love this series!
Was a bit skeptical when you named your character Barb....and the pokemon you are using is Hypno....but thankfully you named your rival GPB. I couldn't be the only one that thought these references were going that way xD
"Babe, it's 5 AM, time for your Jrose video!"
"Yes Honey"
Bro you always come in clutch with a video. I was having a bad start to my day until I opened TH-cam and saw a new video from you! Thank you for your content
Good vid man, keep up the solo runs, I hope they're as fun to make as they are to watch. Also your commentary is top notch.
Would love to see a Mr Mime run to see how he does
I think he's just slightly worse Gengar honestly. with stab psychic and thunderbolt coverage. also no psychic weakness.
Just in time... I really needed this. Thanks jrose. Long, emotionally heavy day at work. These videos brighten my day, and have great rewatch value to them.
Wow you're pumping the vids out now JRose and we are here for it 💪
Dude I have no idea why I'm so addicted to watching your Pokemon runs lol even when some are like an hour long but I do man great content even half way threw the video I'm still entertained. Dropped a sub and likes on every video I watched so far great work
I used hypno a lot in Blue and Gold playthroughs as a kid. Haven't watched yet but keen to see how well it goes.
Sleep moves have been big in the last videos, just proves how good Sleep is in Gen 1.
Also, to me it feels like you've been super hyped in the last videos and seem even more motivated. Very very excited for the output in the next weeks.
I'm loving all these uploads dude! you got me back into my childhood games :)
I thought the “Yatta” was a little out of the blue and then I noticed the player and rival names. You love to see it
I'm glad to see Hypno did so well, he was on my original team! All I had was psychic types lol.
fun fact, despite the hit hypno's special attack took in generation 2 (down to 73, from 115 after special was separated into two stats), in generation 6, it was alakazam received a small base stat buff to its special defense. hypno still remains untouched since it received its hugely undeserved nerf in generation 2.
Love the content amigo! Keep up the good work and love the rapid fire videos. I know it's a allot of work to put out a video ever 3 or 4 days you're doing awesome
Glad to have you back. Still looking forward to your weedle video :)
I feel like Starmie would be really fast
High speed, good special, broad movepool, only problem is that it's in the slow leveling group
Most of its movepool is locked behind TMS too
having seen a starmie run at normal speed, it was pretty much tied with Machamp. it can get past mistie by badge boosting and then it's basically free for the rest of the game.
So, how about that true solo run with Surf, Strength and Cut Krabby (or Kingler)? 😄 Loving the regular videos Jrose, and if this request is getting annoying, let me know!
Lickitung as well
I'm so glad your old intro song is back haha. Great video!
Awesome run and great result for Hypno! Looking forward to the coming crazy videos!
Pre-watch guess: This is going to be fairly easy. It's a psychic type in gen 1, it has _fantastic_ base special and its other stats aren't awful. It isn't very fast but since you'll be outleveling your opponents that won't matter as much. You start with Confusion so you don't have to grind to beat Brock and won't have trouble with other rock types in Mt. Moon. By the late game you'll have Meditate to take advantage of the badge boost glitch, you'll have psychic, and if you keep Hypnosis long enough you can grab Dream Eater too so that you have a healing move for endurance in longer fights.
I'm not saying there will never be difficult sections, but this seems like a pretty clear-cut "good" pokemon that will speed through the game without much difficulty.
I really like how in your later runs you do consider doing more battles then doing the least amount of training as possible.
Better to waste two minutes on route trainers than two hours on E4 memers eh?
Always happy to see a new Jrose videos.
Knowing that you make up everything on the spot makes some phrases very funny, I'm loving the videos.
EARLY SQUAD WHERE YA AT; LOVE THE VIDS JROSE
Aww yeah guess who is jot going to be at a reasonable hour because he is watching jrose
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Is Rage really worse than Constrict and Focus Energy? There's often some amount of concern on these runs about conserving power points to not have to heal, and rage is also great at conserving power points.
Awesome a JRose video to get my day started to. Hope you have a good day JRose! Hypno is my favorite obscure/underused Pokemon. (:
Always love to see your uploads, improves my night greatly!
Please tell me you are at least familiar with Jake Mcaulay’s weedle only runs
5:10 'Thankfully not confused'
I thought in Gen 1 a pokemon can't receive a status as a side effect from a damage dealing move of the same type?
Confusion isn't a "true" status condition, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was left out of this rule.
Oh JRose, the cruelty. Releasing a video at 11 o'clock at night knowing darn well I'm gonna stay up to watch it, despite having to be up early 😅 love the videos man, keep up the good work.
Another upload! The past month has been great
FINALLY! I've been waiting for Hypno.
Such an underrated character, I'm excited for this
Damn Jose you disappeared for forever and then just started pumping out these videos like a production line. Loving the videos and keep up the good work man.
J really knows color composition. Always these nice complimentary colors to go with the main choices for his runs. It's a great touch!
Perfect timing for this just before bed
Love these videos
Thank you for all these videos lately Jrose!!
Man you just killing it right now. One Video After another.
Oh how you spoil us.
You're the best when it comes to pokemon.. funny and scientific
Very much appreciated
That surprised me! Awesome vid Jrose
"Military gift shop manager" had me chuckling. 😄
Also, I like the new format of an intro, then the opening theme once you've set the stage, then into the gameplay. Feels really polished.