Redemption arc ? the man i distancing himself from all his previous traumas. To reach godhood where he won't need humans approval. The result will most likely be an unhinged Homelander capable of killing everybody in the planet becausse he won't need nobody else but Ryan.
homelander redemption arc is NEVER happening lmao his backstory is sad and messed up but redeeming him would go against the whole show at this point lol
Not really. Vought is the true villain in this story, Homelander is just the most powerful of the monsters they intentionally created, if they make a worse monster then redeeming Homelander is not even that hard.
@@TriplebrcI'm gonna go out ona limb and say you don't even know what the word "redemption" means. It quite literally would go against the whole show.
Hughie put the V in his jacket then went to get a soda. His mom noticed Hughie being weird. She probably looked in his jacket, saw the V, and took the opportunity. She wants her son to love her, and probably wants to take the weight off his shoulder.
@@jaymenjanssens720 Nah, they make it clear Homie has all of it, if he didn't A train wouldn't take that big a risk if he could just grab it elsewhere.
@@CyberBeep_kenshi I think she is real. I mean if he’s not the one in charge of making the decisions then who is? Also I think Butcher’s hallucinations are from the real V and his tumor.
Ngl after seeing this scene, I can honestly say wholeheartly that Homelander actually earned one of the top 10 spots of greatest villians in the history of television. I told the community that even by The Boys standards, this season will be the darkest one yet and this episode exceeded the expectations by an landslide. Mans had to literally channel his inner crazy Joker to get one of the most twisted, psychotic laughs I ever heard in television. Definitely on par with Ledger's, Phoenix's and Monaghan's own style. Best episode of the Boys yet. The only time I felt chills and such utter tension with this type of crazy in Tv was when Joker told Batman the real plan of Harvey Dent back in TDK and when Walter did an hit and run on two childkillers then shot one of them in the head with no hesitation. Honestly, The Emmys are really moving the goalpost if they don't give Antony Starr the acknowledgement he deserves for playing Homelander. I for one, from Day 1 hated Homelander and I still stand on that along with the rest of the supes and I hope in the end, Butcher goes full Eren Yeager on them but even with that and with all the shit he's done, I still couldn't help but empathize with him regarding how Vought treated him. Vought is the real enemy of The Boys including the man who stood his ground to an psychopath with powers and lived, Stan Edgar. No wonder he become the man we all know him as becuase they made an monster. Even when he said that not one of the scientists stood up to Vought and said that this is wrong, I think in a sense, even with what they did, he was self-consicous with that though of wanting love and compassion and instead of showing that side of what being human means to a kid no less, instead Vought exploited that weakness to control him to be obedient and him realizing that makes me more of a threat. In other words, let the ultimate crashout event begin..... After this ep, Homelander is forever GOATED as one of the best villains of all time. And I hope I see more of Antony in other works of media as well cuz he is a master of acting.
@DrewMack-oj3lh I’m not excusing him: more so just thinking Antony Starr’s acting is incredible enough to make me feel any kind of sympathy for his character. He was basically turned into a monster by what they did to him. Might have turned out completely different otherwise. Who knows…
Hughie's mom doesn't work AT Vought any more than any MLM reseller works at the company. She works FOR them. I think she walked up before she actually spoke and saw the V before he put it in his pocket. V is common knowledge nowadays so could guess what it was. When she went to hug him and he pulled away she realized that he'll never love her like he does his dad and took the opportunity to save the dad's life for Hughie. Hughie had taken off his jacket and left it in the room when he went out so it was easy for her to get to.
Hughie left his outer jacket that had the V in it in the room when he went to get the coffees. More specifically, he takes the outer jacket off after his mom walks on in him deciding not to use the V. She goes to hug him, and he freaks out and leaves the room and his jacket behind. My theory is that she was standing behind him longer than we the audience saw, and made the decision to use the ish when he then left it behind. Whether she's a plant doing it on Vaught's behalf or just trying to win her son back in a crazy way remains to be seen. I do think she intentionally went for a hug to get him out of the room for a bit, though.
The firecracker scene of her being with a 16 yo and the religious forgiven her. Is such a real issue. Glad the boys is bringing light to that. She know, if she hides behind Christ. The sheep will fallow and she dodges accountability. SMH
Hugh put the Compound V into his jacket pocket then he left the room for a moment. Makes sense his Mom, Daphne lifted it and gave it to Hughie Campbell Sr. before he came back into the room, Blake, Cojo, Corey, and Igli.
When I saw Hughie's dad in the hospital, I thought about Compound V right away. It got me excited as Hell given that Simon Pegg is essentially Hughie in the comics. So him joining the group would be awesome. But what if his powers is to eat human flesh to prevent him to die? Like a zombie. In a nice nod to Shaun of the Dead. And Hughie has to kill him like Simon did in Shaun to his mom.
Hughie’s mum took the temp V from his pocket she didn’t have any herself i don’t think, she’s definitely up to something suspicious because she would have had to look through his things but I don’t think she had any V to give him. Home lander isn’t on a path to redemption the point that Barbra was making is that from Hollanders birth he was destructive so it was a necessity for them to install a human need for love and validation otherwise he would just be a complete psychopath even moroe so than he already is so home lander will alway need validation, the point that homlander makes back to here is that even though he knows deep down he cant change that for himself, none of these things have been applied to Ryan yet witch is why home lander wants to mould him so badly in his perfect image and keep everyone away from him, whilst at the same time is so jealous. Also fire cracker is literally an amalgamation of two real life people in far right politics so the real world is crazier than you think Blake.
She didn’t just comment on what happened when he was a baby she spoke about that and then said from then on, if you know the comics and what they include in the show as canon homlander has been psychotic and killed people his whole life so vought instilling neediness in him was a necessity.
Theory: Hughies mom works for home lander to create more sups. Homelander wants more sups so they can rule. His mom could work for Voughtality in order to keep sups around. She knows how to successfully use temp V and turn humans. Could potentially help keep butcher alive as well.
Fun / crazy theory : what if Hughie's mom is actually Homelander's mom too? She agreed to be a surrogate then tried to live a normal life with a husband and son. She left Hughie and his dad because Vought introduce Homelander for the first time to the public and then she freaked out.
@@VanessassaryEvil i mean vought lied about how ryan born too. But after watching the "sentimental" scene with Hughie and his mom on why she left again... She said she had Hughie when she was 22 which pretty much dismantling my theory about her being homelander's mom. Because i think the age difference between homelander and hughie is pretty huge. Hughie probably on his mid 20s and homelander on his late 30s or early 40s. And homelander become "homelander" when he was 16 and the mom left hughie when hughie was 6. The numbers definitely off.
Hughies mom has to be a supe. She works with all this "healing medicine" at Vought. She probably has some healing powers that can conjure up Compound V or something. I don't see how she could of slipped out that V from hughies jacket or get into Homelanders room.
Hughie left his outer jacket with the compound V in the room when he went to get coffee, leaving her in the room with it for several minutes lol. Compound V is common knowledge at this point so I don’t think it’s a stretch that she would see him holding it, see him stash it back in his pocket, see him take off his jacket, and then think to go through with what he couldn’t.
Every reactor I've seen so far assumes that Butcher is sick and will die. I think he's healed since he took the right V. He just thinks that the V hasn't changed anything. However, everything he has felt since then is a consequence of the right V. This parasite that lives in him is his V-superpower. Kind of Venom. Parasates feed on their host. That's why Butcher feels weak and sick. Besides, I think Becca and JDM's character are both not just his pure imagination, but the parasite who talks to him. Another possibility is that Butcher is still sick, but the parasite ultimately keeps him alive. Of course, Becca and JDM can both be conceited. Just his conscience. Becca the angel and JDM the devil on his shoulder. No matter what it looks like at the moment, I think Sage has a huge master plan at the end of which there is the destruction of Vaught and of course Homelander. She wants to take revenge on Vaught for having to live like this. It is not a nice life to be the most intelligent person. To be absolutely isolated and to have to give yourself these lobotomies. She already has power in Vaught. She is now CEO, head of security and marketing. She takes over the place and no one notices. She also wants Homelander gone. I don't know the exact motive yet, but especially the Caesar comparison suggests that she wants to destroy Homelander. As everyone should know, Caesar was stabbed several times in the back by his confidants and died. Hughie's mother has taken the V out of his jacket. Before Hughie left the room, he took off his jacket and laid it over the chair.
here is a question: is the mom real or a hallucination like butcher has? both of them took temp V. and if she is real, how would she even know he had a bottle? very unlikely.
Of all the people homelander killed those are the only group of people i feel absolutely no empathy, for…they happily torture homelander for years, and basically created a fucking monster(don’t get me wrong Homelander is still responsible for all of his bad actions, but the people working at this lab definitely had a big part on why he’s that way)The guy said “I was just doing my job“ but his job was still torturing & mistreating a kid, and like homelander said nobody stopped and said that what they were doing was wrong. All of them were OK with what they were doing until he came back for revenge. And now that I’m thinking about it I’m surprised that none of them were expecting this… like the second Homelander left the lab all of them should’ve ran and hide because if I was them, I would fully expect him to come back and kill me for what I did.
Oh and I DO NOT TRUST Hughies mom AT ALL!! I think she either caused the stroke of daddy or is working as a spy for Vaught or something. She's bad news IMO.
They're trying too hard with the shock value this season and it's kind of lame. I'm already desensitized when it comes to tv debauchery and violence, so the shock value isnt working on me this season. It feels like they just dont have a story yet and this whole season has been filler episodes. Maybe the next 4 episodes will tell us what this seasons story is, but so far its just b-plot after b-plot.
@@NewYorkFloridaMan Oppenheimer? Sorry, I haven’t seen that film. And my point, which you missed, was that they’re not piling on more shock value as you imply. You simply are getting used to it, or rather, focusing too much on it instead of the actual storytelling.
When this episode started, I kept saying "No, you will not make me feel bad for this psycho!" but they got me in the end.
Lol I’ve always felt bad for him
i feel bad for his upbringing and that’s it😂
@@Wolfhunter5607 just want him to be happy
No I want him to suffer. I pity him@@Souphover
I feel bad for the child he was, not the psycho he is.
Redemption arc ? the man i distancing himself from all his previous traumas. To reach godhood where he won't need humans approval. The result will most likely be an unhinged Homelander capable of killing everybody in the planet becausse he won't need nobody else but Ryan.
"homelander redemption arc?" this man is beyond being redeemed
I wouldn't say that, characters like Omniman and Vader got redeemed too
best episode of the season yet. glad the small plotlines are paying off i knew they would cook
This should shut up the whiners for a while
homelander redemption arc is NEVER happening lmao his backstory is sad and messed up but redeeming him would go against the whole show at this point lol
Not really. Vought is the true villain in this story, Homelander is just the most powerful of the monsters they intentionally created, if they make a worse monster then redeeming Homelander is not even that hard.
@@TriplebrcI'm gonna go out ona limb and say you don't even know what the word "redemption" means. It quite literally would go against the whole show.
This was best acting ever from Antony Starr and i dare to say he was acting better than any other actor !
Sage is just SO incredibly cool. She has not physical super powers but she's so interesting and a great add to this season.
20:32 absolutely loved his manic joker laugh 😂😂
Future role? 👀
Hughie put the V in his jacket then went to get a soda. His mom noticed Hughie being weird. She probably looked in his jacket, saw the V, and took the opportunity. She wants her son to love her, and probably wants to take the weight off his shoulder.
AND V is public knowledge too. A bunch of reacters think she brought her own.
@@jaymenjanssens720 Nah, they make it clear Homie has all of it, if he didn't A train wouldn't take that big a risk if he could just grab it elsewhere.
@@jaymenjanssens720 Tbf she does (in a way) work for Vaught so some people just assumed she had it on her
the question is, is his mom real or a hallucination like butcher has? have we seen her talk to doctors?
@@CyberBeep_kenshi I think she is real. I mean if he’s not the one in charge of making the decisions then who is? Also I think Butcher’s hallucinations are from the real V and his tumor.
A redemption arc that begins with a mass killing? Loool
Amazing episode, Antony Starr needs his Emmy win right now.
Ngl after seeing this scene, I can honestly say wholeheartly that Homelander actually earned one of the top 10 spots of greatest villians in the history of television. I told the community that even by The Boys standards, this season will be the darkest one yet and this episode exceeded the expectations by an landslide. Mans had to literally channel his inner crazy Joker to get one of the most twisted, psychotic laughs I ever heard in television. Definitely on par with Ledger's, Phoenix's and Monaghan's own style. Best episode of the Boys yet. The only time I felt chills and such utter tension with this type of crazy in Tv was when Joker told Batman the real plan of Harvey Dent back in TDK and when Walter did an hit and run on two childkillers then shot one of them in the head with no hesitation. Honestly, The Emmys are really moving the goalpost if they don't give Antony Starr the acknowledgement he deserves for playing Homelander. I for one, from Day 1 hated Homelander and I still stand on that along with the rest of the supes and I hope in the end, Butcher goes full Eren Yeager on them but even with that and with all the shit he's done, I still couldn't help but empathize with him regarding how Vought treated him. Vought is the real enemy of The Boys including the man who stood his ground to an psychopath with powers and lived, Stan Edgar. No wonder he become the man we all know him as becuase they made an monster. Even when he said that not one of the scientists stood up to Vought and said that this is wrong, I think in a sense, even with what they did, he was self-consicous with that though of wanting love and compassion and instead of showing that side of what being human means to a kid no less, instead Vought exploited that weakness to control him to be obedient and him realizing that makes me more of a threat. In other words, let the ultimate crashout event begin.....
After this ep, Homelander is forever GOATED as one of the best villains of all time. And I hope I see more of Antony in other works of media as well cuz he is a master of acting.
Antony Starr is just an incredible actor. Yes Homelander is insane but I actually felt bad for him
I mean. Do you really? He gets a sliver of empathy but the guy is evil
@DrewMack-oj3lh I’m not excusing him: more so just thinking Antony Starr’s acting is incredible enough to make me feel any kind of sympathy for his character. He was basically turned into a monster by what they did to him. Might have turned out completely different otherwise. Who knows…
They created a monster
@DrewMack-oj3lh Not nearly at this level because he never had loved ones. Was used a lab rat for most of his life.
this episode, WOW, this season is being a fucking 10
This episode was better than the others but this season is no 10.
@@johnnyskinwalker4095 to me it is
@@johnnyskinwalker4095ouh shut up 🙄 we are halfway through 😂😂😂 dramatic
@@MrWord283 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@tetamale4280 Season 1 was so epic though
Hughie's mom doesn't work AT Vought any more than any MLM reseller works at the company. She works FOR them. I think she walked up before she actually spoke and saw the V before he put it in his pocket. V is common knowledge nowadays so could guess what it was. When she went to hug him and he pulled away she realized that he'll never love her like he does his dad and took the opportunity to save the dad's life for Hughie. Hughie had taken off his jacket and left it in the room when he went out so it was easy for her to get to.
Raggedy house…?, you guys are growing so much and it’s great 30k hear you come.
Butcher is Venom in The Boys universe now. 😆
This show is bonkers! Great react as always 🙏🏼
Hughie left his outer jacket that had the V in it in the room when he went to get the coffees. More specifically, he takes the outer jacket off after his mom walks on in him deciding not to use the V. She goes to hug him, and he freaks out and leaves the room and his jacket behind. My theory is that she was standing behind him longer than we the audience saw, and made the decision to use the ish when he then left it behind. Whether she's a plant doing it on Vaught's behalf or just trying to win her son back in a crazy way remains to be seen. I do think she intentionally went for a hug to get him out of the room for a bit, though.
He left his jacket on the chair, and while gone getting a soda, she took the drug from his jacket.
is she even real though?
The firecracker scene of her being with a 16 yo and the religious forgiven her. Is such a real issue. Glad the boys is bringing light to that. She know, if she hides behind Christ. The sheep will fallow and she dodges accountability. SMH
15yrs old
if you guys haven’t watched the hunger games franchise i definitely would love to see it on the channel! :)
Hugh put the Compound V into his jacket pocket then he left the room for a moment.
Makes sense his Mom, Daphne lifted it and gave it to Hughie Campbell Sr. before he came back into the room, Blake, Cojo, Corey, and Igli.
When I saw Hughie's dad in the hospital, I thought about Compound V right away. It got me excited as Hell given that Simon Pegg is essentially Hughie in the comics. So him joining the group would be awesome. But what if his powers is to eat human flesh to prevent him to die? Like a zombie. In a nice nod to Shaun of the Dead. And Hughie has to kill him like Simon did in Shaun to his mom.
36:30 I thought the mom wasn't real and brought this shape shifter take back to my homies for a laugh but dang, you were more right.
Watch banshee, Antony Starr is amazing in it !
Hughie’s mum took the temp V from his pocket she didn’t have any herself i don’t think, she’s definitely up to something suspicious because she would have had to look through his things but I don’t think she had any V to give him.
Home lander isn’t on a path to redemption the point that Barbra was making is that from Hollanders birth he was destructive so it was a necessity for them to install a human need for love and validation otherwise he would just be a complete psychopath even moroe so than he already is so home lander will alway need validation, the point that homlander makes back to here is that even though he knows deep down he cant change that for himself, none of these things have been applied to Ryan yet witch is why home lander wants to mould him so badly in his perfect image and keep everyone away from him, whilst at the same time is so jealous.
Also fire cracker is literally an amalgamation of two real life people in far right politics so the real world is crazier than you think Blake.
He was a baby, they don't have any control over themselves. It's not as if he intentionally killed the woman.
She didn’t just comment on what happened when he was a baby she spoke about that and then said from then on, if you know the comics and what they include in the show as canon homlander has been psychotic and killed people his whole life so vought instilling neediness in him was a necessity.
Temp V is glowing green. This is real permanent V sups have inside.
#HawkTuak "came" just in time for Blake!😂😂😂
Yeah, she took it from his jacket you can literally see it when they're standing at the bed and she goes to hug him
Theory: Hughies mom works for home lander to create more sups. Homelander wants more sups so they can rule. His mom could work for Voughtality in order to keep sups around. She knows how to successfully use temp V and turn humans. Could potentially help keep butcher alive as well.
You obviously weren't paying g attention lol😊
Fun / crazy theory : what if Hughie's mom is actually Homelander's mom too? She agreed to be a surrogate then tried to live a normal life with a husband and son. She left Hughie and his dad because Vought introduce Homelander for the first time to the public and then she freaked out.
That would be interesting but also would make the story of Homelander’s birth (given by Barbara in this very episode) a straight up lie lol.
@@VanessassaryEvil i mean vought lied about how ryan born too. But after watching the "sentimental" scene with Hughie and his mom on why she left again... She said she had Hughie when she was 22 which pretty much dismantling my theory about her being homelander's mom. Because i think the age difference between homelander and hughie is pretty huge. Hughie probably on his mid 20s and homelander on his late 30s or early 40s. And homelander become "homelander" when he was 16 and the mom left hughie when hughie was 6. The numbers definitely off.
It was compound V not temp (temporary) V. Compound V is blue and the powers don't go away. Temp V was green and is temporary
Hughies mom has to be a supe. She works with all this "healing medicine" at Vought. She probably has some healing powers that can conjure up Compound V or something. I don't see how she could of slipped out that V from hughies jacket or get into Homelanders room.
Hughie left his outer jacket with the compound V in the room when he went to get coffee, leaving her in the room with it for several minutes lol. Compound V is common knowledge at this point so I don’t think it’s a stretch that she would see him holding it, see him stash it back in his pocket, see him take off his jacket, and then think to go through with what he couldn’t.
Blond white boy 3rd from the left had me rolling laughing... at 6:41😂😂😂"Noooooo....she didn't. No, she did not"😂😂😂😂
Redemption arc!? Are we watching the same show?
Notice the parallels in conditioning between homelander and frenchie...childhood abuse shutting down emotion to engage in violence.....
It’s doppleganger lol. And why do so many reactors not think the mom just took the V out of his pocket??
What if Hughie's mom was one of Homelanders psych Dr's and she saw some shit and ran away. She has therapy vibes.
Corey is so smart
the medicine frenchie found, is for milk production.... so take 1 guess where homelander got those bottles from... ewww
Every reactor I've seen so far assumes that Butcher is sick and will die. I think he's healed since he took the right V. He just thinks that the V hasn't changed anything. However, everything he has felt since then is a consequence of the right V. This parasite that lives in him is his V-superpower. Kind of Venom. Parasates feed on their host. That's why Butcher feels weak and sick.
Besides, I think Becca and JDM's character are both not just his pure imagination, but the parasite who talks to him.
Another possibility is that Butcher is still sick, but the parasite ultimately keeps him alive.
Of course, Becca and JDM can both be conceited. Just his conscience. Becca the angel and JDM the devil on his shoulder.
No matter what it looks like at the moment, I think Sage has a huge master plan at the end of which there is the destruction of Vaught and of course Homelander. She wants to take revenge on Vaught for having to live like this. It is not a nice life to be the most intelligent person. To be absolutely isolated and to have to give yourself these lobotomies. She already has power in Vaught. She is now CEO, head of security and marketing. She takes over the place and no one notices. She also wants Homelander gone. I don't know the exact motive yet, but especially the Caesar comparison suggests that she wants to destroy Homelander. As everyone should know, Caesar was stabbed several times in the back by his confidants and died.
Hughie's mother has taken the V out of his jacket. Before Hughie left the room, he took off his jacket and laid it over the chair.
here is a question: is the mom real or a hallucination like butcher has? both of them took temp V.
and if she is real, how would she even know he had a bottle? very unlikely.
Of all the people homelander killed those are the only group of people i feel absolutely no empathy, for…they happily torture homelander for years, and basically created a fucking monster(don’t get me wrong Homelander is still responsible for all of his bad actions, but the people working at this lab definitely had a big part on why he’s that way)The guy said “I was just doing my job“ but his job was still torturing & mistreating a kid, and like homelander said nobody stopped and said that what they were doing was wrong. All of them were OK with what they were doing until he came back for revenge.
And now that I’m thinking about it I’m surprised that none of them were expecting this… like the second Homelander left the lab all of them should’ve ran and hide because if I was them, I would fully expect him to come back and kill me for what I did.
Hughes mom dowsnt work work for vpught she works for their version of Mary Kay she took the v out of Hughes jacket when he left to get coffee
Oh and I DO NOT TRUST Hughies mom AT ALL!! I think she either caused the stroke of daddy or is working as a spy for Vaught or something. She's bad news IMO.
I’ll never feel bad for Homelander
Let's talk about if firecracker was a man tho😅
first!!!
They're trying too hard with the shock value this season and it's kind of lame. I'm already desensitized when it comes to tv debauchery and violence, so the shock value isnt working on me this season. It feels like they just dont have a story yet and this whole season has been filler episodes. Maybe the next 4 episodes will tell us what this seasons story is, but so far its just b-plot after b-plot.
Tell me about it.
What are you talking about? The shock value has always been there. Maybe that’s why you’re desensitized. You’re used to it.
@@KCohere33 That's exactly what I said, Oppenheimer. I'm used to it... aka... it's lame.
@@NewYorkFloridaMan Oppenheimer? Sorry, I haven’t seen that film. And my point, which you missed, was that they’re not piling on more shock value as you imply. You simply are getting used to it, or rather, focusing too much on it instead of the actual storytelling.
That has always been the case. What are you having a problem now?
Am I the only one getting a feeling that Sage trying to give birth to a Black Manta with The Deep.
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What a great episode. Homelander is an awesome villan
also i dont gaf about frenchie and his boyfriend.