halfway through the video, you might mention it later, but it's critical PPE to have properly rated laser goggles when using high power lasers. A stray beam reflection can instantly blind you if you aren't careful. Shit's scary, likewise minimizing the effects of potentially blinding someone else would be advantageous. much like you mentioned with it potentially melting through it's own lense. Your eye is a lense, that is essentially made out of gelatin and meat particles however. Much less resistant. I'm unsure off the top of my head of the safety of these lasers in specific, but i believe both styropyro and backyard scientist have videos on these, which are likely to include some form of related information. Styro in particular.
Hi, I am a laser cleaning salesperson. Warm reminder: You need to wear protective glasses when using the laser cleaning machine to prevent laser radiation from causing damage to your eyes.😄
@@suburbanbiology Thank you for your approval. Wearing protective glasses is very important. If you have any questions about laser cleaning, you are welcome to contact me at any time and I will be happy to discuss it with you.😄
I have an IPL aesthetic laser business. Hair removal, sunspots, acne, etc. I just had a handpiece repaired and a service technician is coming Monday to clean the system. I would love to learn the basics and keep up on maintenance and prevention. what is a laser cleaning sales person? Do you both clean and sell lasers?
@@angierox6964 Thank you for your reply. Our laser cleaning machine is not suitable for the medical beauty industry, but is mainly used for metal rust removal, paint removal, etc.
I guess at $14-15k for a machine like that, if you are in the business of earning a living doing work like that in a shop, or on the field, then it's worth it over time. But not for the DYI guy going these types of projects. For the DYI person, a small Harbor Freight sand and media parts blaster is the way to go if you have lots to do. For a few small jobs on a budget, a wire wheel on a bench grinder (or for portability, a fast portable drill) with proper eye wear, welding gloves and a bib is really all you need.
No shit. When I saw this video I thought “Great! This guy bought one for home use. Maybe they’ve gone down in price since I saw them about a year ago.” Umm… not so much. Very cool tool, and I’d love to have one, but way more than I can justify spending.
I thought the same too. But then I saw they are around $14k and it curbed my enthusiasm straight away lol. I did see some cheaper packs by other brands but not sure how reliable or how effective they are as some were priced at $400 to $1800… seems a bit suspicious if you know what I mean.
I love that he's showing how to build a fence on the cheap but spends 14k on a tool! Sounds like something I'd do! But I'd have to use the tool often for that price.
@@michaelknotts6244you gotta learn to live cheaply so you can afford to spend big. Always been very stingy and efficient with my money for the most part, it allows me to buy fun weird shit that interests me without a second thought 😂
This is a totally off base comment so I apologize for it in advance. I feel like your look, with your backyard and your hat and glasses, is pretty unique. At least, when I see you I think "Oh yeah! That's the really cool guy who did the earthen rocket mass heater and the incredible rainwater collection system and the GOAT. But when I saw this thumbnail, I didn't recognize that. I think if you potentially had a picture of yourself in your iconic outfit, (either on your profile pic or the thumbnail), I might have a better chance of recognizing it! I am kicking myself for not realizing this video that popped up in my feed was you until 2 days had past! Anyways, I'm by no means an expert, just giving you my two cents. I love your projects, and the way you record them! Thanks for being so inspirational!
That’s good to know. It hadn’t really occurred to me. I’ll see if I can think of a different version for a thumbnail. Thanks for the feedback and for your support!
Obviously, a decent tool, but at 15 grand, way out of my price range. I'll stick to my wire and wafer wheels to prep metal for welding. Thanks for introducing it to us all.
I like your more laid-back but detailed "real world practicality" take on this over the usual "OMG!!!!!!! LAZORZ CAN DO THIS????" clickbait. Incidentally, your particular machine seems to use the same galvanometer scanners used in laser show projectors, in theory they could be hacked so that the "freedom" preset actually engraves the stars and stripes into items 😄
I have an upright piano that I want to refinish so but scare of how long it would take to use the normal chemical stripper. I found the laser method a few months ago, so I was excited to see a longer video on how they work. Even if this one isn't able to remove stain.
I attempted to remove some stain from some old cabinet doors. My particular doors had been coated with polyurethane. I found that the polyurethane wound up kind of burning. I have seen other videos of laser, cleaners removing wood stain. I did not take the time to research how to do this. I’m not sure if I had the wrong settings punched in or if the polyurethane just made it impossible. From videos online though it seems like some units can do it. Perhaps a bit of research would lead to me realize that this machine is actually more capable of it than I realize??? Thank you for commenting and for subscribing.
The pulsed model laser cleaner can clean rust paint graffiti oxidized layers of oil welds etc. on both metallic and non-metallic materials without damaging the substrate.
If ASMR were to translate into laser cleaning..........I love the music you choose to play in the background while we watch the laser cleaning going on. It's almost hypnotic. Relaxing.
Is this the same laser they're using to trim trees ?? How much do they cost ?? AliExpress has this one for under $300 . Is that one real or junk ? And where can I get the right safety glasses for it ??
If you have a painted car part (for instance, an engine block or wiper motor housing) and want to remove oil/grease, can settings be adjusted to remove just the surface grime without affecting the paint or does the laser clean down to bare metal every time?
Hi. Really, thank you. I am an older man (65) and in my prime before a serious injury, I would build from scrap and reclaim and re-purpose anything for the sheer creative joy of it. Now through like minded people like you, I can still enjoy my old life, with a "New Tech Twist". So again, Thank You.@@suburbanbiology
Hi. Really, thank you. I am an older man (65) and in my prime before a serious injury, I would build from scrap and reclaim and re-purpose anything for the sheer creative joy of it. Now through like minded people like you, I can still enjoy my old life, with a "New Tech Twist". So again, Thank You.@@suburbanbiology
I've been a coded welder for 40 years, and I don't think even I could get value from a machine like that. I'm not saying that it wouldn't occasionally have been useful, but it would never have been 10 grand useful.
I must admit that the 10k price tag is still high which is why I got a ding/dent version. The prices seem to be falling rapidly which is part of why I didn’t mention price in the video. I’m betting it will be like many technologies where in 5 years it will 90% off. Just curious do you think this thing would be 1k useful or not even that?
@@suburbanbiology Personally, not for me. I can do 99% of what that machine can do with a 4 inch grinder and a flap disk, faster, way cheaper and lighter. I notice it has a 1 year guarantee (except for misuse) on everything except the laser source, so I wouldn't expect it to last much longer than that if used in an industrial setting, and even at $1k, that's still not good value for my use case.
If you work on cars or some other things where you deal with lots of rust then this would be great. As a car mechanic that struggles with LOTS OF RUST this would be amazing. I usually use a pneumatic needle descaler then sanding or a small wire wheel on an pipe to reach hard spots, have made my own with copperpipe and steel wires and then soldered for a pin wire wheel, it's slow but the only functional tool sometimes and a laser would be soo much faster and better than solvents, knife blades, sand paper and wire wheel for so many things and do less damage to the base metal
I’ve never been a welder and I disagree I think it would pay for itself rich people don’t like to wait and would be awed by the technology. Restoring old car parts etc / boats / tools / toys/ antiques/ tools
It is interesting. I wonder how you could use it under tight spaces safely, like a frame of a trailer. With car oil and all it would not be safe to use around a vehicle but maybe work trailers and camper frames to remove rust.
With thick enough oil coated on anything you’re correct. This would definitely ignite thick layers of grease and oil. It would be a good idea to have a lot of ventilation and a fire extinguisher very close by before you attempt anything like that. Thanks for commenting and for subscribing!
completely unrelated question - do you think the metal fabrication/machining industries would be a sustainable career change choice for someone in their 30's with 4 kids?
I have a hard time, imagining the future of such an industry right now. I follow the development of the robotic space fairly closely. Even though most people don’t seem to be aware of it, at this time, it seems likely that humanoid robots may be on a tipping point toward becoming very “helpful” in the next five years. if humanoid robots, do indeed, become actually useful in the next several years, I could see that disrupting industries where things are welded on a massive scale. Assembly lines, especially. If you are talking about an industry of metal fabrication, where items are made at low volume, I think there’s a better chance that this industry may remain stable. I think, assembly lines in general, are going to be very disrupted in the next decade. I would certainly encourage everyone to pursue metal fabrication as a hobby to some degree. It is an incredibly powerful skill set. I just don’t know as far as being a new career. If you are considering changing to this career, I would advise having a diverse skill set where you would have the option to produce low-volume products. I hope that makes sense. Thank you for your thought-provoking question.
@alexanderkonczal3908 The other concern is about competition/existing users or businesses. There are companies who have other means : Acid, media blasting. I can imagine machine shops buying this, not to mention the other shops that process rust. You may ask the local machine shops and auto restoration shops if they have one and if you provided that as a service, how much time per month they would need your service. Best wishes! :)
Looks like attaching this thing to a CNC Gantry would make a lot of sense if you had a lot of material to clean. That way you could both optimize the Z axis and reduce the need to manually carry, hold and move the darn thing.
I should do that. I heard from the company recently that they discontinued that particular model to focus on a higher powered unit. Thanks for the feedback!
This is the second comment that seems concerned about me not wearing a respirator. I am confused why folks are asking. unless I missed something I wore a respirator with an organic vapor cartridge in every scene that I was using the laser. Which scene are you referring to? Thanks for commenting!
Not sure if your iPhone app store can download camera apps where you can use a custom shutter speed for video but on my Android i just randomly found one app where i can do that and it's amazing to get a more human like video where the shutter speed can be locked to 60, 50, 40, 30 and many more then i can take the ISO way down and get much better quality and have just perfect motion blur and no light flickering
Seems great for removing rust from hard to reach area's like the vise and table, but I was concerned it may have a lead base paint and your breathing the fumes. For the big flat surfaces a palm sander would be way faster. Cool video I seen someone else use a similar device on YT.
I had on a carbon respirator but I must admit I could smell a bit of the smoke. My silly beard out to get me. I would normally turn a fan on to blow the smoke away but the air shook the camera. Sacrificing health for a good shot 😂
homie the lead base paint is the least of the concerns when using a strong laser. That shit will blind you faster than you can make a joke about going blind without proper safety attire.
I did not see what laser source this machine is using other than it is a 100watt laser. I have a 100watt JPT. I set the Pulse to 500ns and the frequency to 68khz for max power output. With that I can cut through 16gauge steel with about 200 passes going 1000 mm/sec and a 160mm lens. Did this machine come with any recommended settings?
The settings are largely adjustable. This laser has a gun the sweeps the beam around. If yours is able to cut I would imagine it doesn’t sweep the beam? The link in the description will have more details.
@@suburbanbiology Yes, the beam sweeps across the material with a galvo head. That is 2 mirrors attached to 2 motors that rapidly moves the beam around.
Technically yes. The very surface is slightly removed. But it’s so superficial that you can barely even tell. If you leave the gun still for too long you can see a slight depression where the laser repeatedly scoured into the metal. Thanks for commenting and for subscribing!
About subscribing… I love your channel for DIY projects, steel work, and welding. Keep it up! In my past life I learned how to MiG weld but today I don’t know where to start concerning purchasing, safety, and if MIG is the way to go? Could you possibly post a video on where to start or what you use?
There were links in the description but I just found out last week they discontinued this model for a more powerful (and more expensive) one. I’m sorry. Thanks for watching!!!
@@dheerajsharma5297 Yes of course. I watched enough to know it was worth a comment :) Now that I'm done watching it I'm even more certain about my original take.
I think I would very quickly rig up a system with a linear actuator/rail system so that it could run on its own. Sure it looks fun for a while but I think for large objects and for best results I would think that would be the way to go!
Cool tool but the dangerous, boring, low effort, and low cost method you shown with brake fluid seems better. The laser does seem ideal for the fence posts although a wire wheel on the pipe ends after cutting might be good. I bought a low end plasma cutter.
Brilliant video, I thought these machines were a gimmick, but you demonstrated a real-world situation. Wonderful editing and camera work, and I am subscribing to see more of your channel.
1 Hr on the battery option is okay. my solar is 48 volt and setting up a 48v portable LIFEPO4 on a dolly combined with this seems like a doable solution if the investment is worth it. definitely amazing for odd shaped surfaces, beats having to soak metal items in acid or solutions to clean them. can get inside all those nooks and crannies for general metal maintenance.
Unfortunately no it was not 1,000. I don’t think I said that anywhere. Maybe the title?? Thousands was spelled with a dollar sign instead of s. It was meant to grab attention not to mislead. I got it about half priced due to slight damage to the machine. Prices are still high. My guess is that prices will come down rather rapidly over time. Thanks for commenting!
Forgive my ignorence on this subject, but I am curious about something. Obviously, this device is faster than a sand blaster/media blaster, but is it cheeper to operate?
Cheaper to operate, yes. Cheaper to purchase maybe not. I guess it depends if you buy a sand blasting cabinet or not. Thanks for commenting and for subscribing!
Do yourself a favor. You should have received a bendable plastic line that threads into the top of the laser body. That is for air to be blown onto the lens or you can aim it at what you are cleaning. It helps keep the lens clean. I have this machine as well as a 1500w cw
Thanks for the tip! I didn’t hook it up because it obscured the shots of the cleaning but unless I’m in windy conditions I plan on using that tube and hooking up to a compressor. Thanks for commenting!
Yes it should be able to handle that just fine. It may slightly mar the tile finish though since it technically scours into the surface just a tiny bit. If you could stick to just the grout though it would probably work fine. Thanks for commenting.
I had the same thought. I’m sure it would be possible to attach to a CNC. I don’t have room for one so I probably won’t be able to try it but I definitely think it’s possible. Thanks for commenting twice!!!
I didn’t get the battery for this machine. If you check the link in the description I think they go into more detail on battery life. It was at least a few hours. The laser will clean multiple surfaces including stone. I found it works best on metal though.
I bought a weaker cheaper model in used condition so it was a lot cheaper. But yeah they aren’t all that affordable (yet) unfortunately. Hopefully soon though
well I can see u have done no time with ur Uncle Sam. The fled load for a soldier is about 120lb with some going with as much as 150lb. This u wear with a little break every now and then when u can take some of it off for up to 20 hr a day 20lb ani,t shit even when I am 75. By the way English major still say ani.t is only used by less eded ppl. sorry English majors but those of us with Master in other fields use ani't all the time. We do this in the presents of English Majors just to fu'k the up. Yes i do not like English majors b/c they think they know it all when all they really know is one language and use their knowledge of it to put down others that saw no need to take any more English after HS then that required by our degrees. For me that was 2 hr of technical writing something English majors hate b/c here we are taught to write in as few words as u can and dont worry if u dont have a completed sentence in the lot Technical writing is to inform others in ur field of what u are doing and so proper English is not needed.
I worked with Laser from 82-89. Stop the job b/c i had saved enough to by me a farm the thing I really wanted What u have there is an engraving laser with all it innards made small and a focal point that is much further away then the ones I used. Yes this lasers I used were bought in 81. U could blast something of the medal or etch in the medal. I would love to have one of those but 10K is just to much And did u actually pay 10K for that thing.
I’m pretty sure the primer on those steel beams is oil-based paint. If you are asking if I have tried metal that is coated in grease and oil. Yes I have. This laser works well on both. Like I said in the video it takes a little bit of time, but for small, very irregular surfaces it works incredibly well
lol. It would take a while. Maybe a tiny hot dog could get heated. I saw tech ingredients do a steak but that was with a HUGE laser diode. Thanks for commenting!
@@suburbanbiology oh yeah he did. Thanks for the video. You never went into the prices of these machines. Used or new. Also are you concerned about the laser's lifespan?
This machine actually comes with a little bendable straw that you can hook up to an air compressor to blow the smoke away from the work Peace. For the sake of this video, I thought that that obstructed the view of the workpiece too much though. By the end of the video I had already slightly damaged one of the protective lenses. I probably should’ve mentioned that in the video body. Maybe I will add that to the description right now just for the sake of clarity. Thank you for commenting, and for subscribing.
@@suburbanbiologyThe use of a fan (even worse a blower) is always a bad idea with airborne contaminants (you just spread them and/or put them back into the air for several minutes/hours depending on the aerodynamical diameters). It's better to suck the smoke near the surface with an industrial (fireproof) vaccuum that has an HEPA filter.
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halfway through the video, you might mention it later, but it's critical PPE to have properly rated laser goggles when using high power lasers. A stray beam reflection can instantly blind you if you aren't careful. Shit's scary, likewise minimizing the effects of potentially blinding someone else would be advantageous.
much like you mentioned with it potentially melting through it's own lense. Your eye is a lense, that is essentially made out of gelatin and meat particles however. Much less resistant.
I'm unsure off the top of my head of the safety of these lasers in specific, but i believe both styropyro and backyard scientist have videos on these, which are likely to include some form of related information. Styro in particular.
Totally agree as a college EH&S teacher and safety officer
Good points. I mention safety glasses in my other laser video about the manifold but I totally forgot to do that in this one.
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Hi, I am a laser cleaning salesperson. Warm reminder: You need to wear protective glasses when using the laser cleaning machine to prevent laser radiation from causing damage to your eyes.😄
I included that disclaimer in my first laser video but totally forgot to include it in this one. You are absolutely correct. Thanks for commenting!!!
@@suburbanbiology Thank you for your approval. Wearing protective glasses is very important. If you have any questions about laser cleaning, you are welcome to contact me at any time and I will be happy to discuss it with you.😄
What is the upkeep for this backpack? How long does the charge last?
I have an IPL aesthetic laser business. Hair removal, sunspots, acne, etc. I just had a handpiece repaired and a service technician is coming Monday to clean the system. I would love to learn the basics and keep up on maintenance and prevention. what is a laser cleaning sales person? Do you both clean and sell lasers?
@@angierox6964 Thank you for your reply. Our laser cleaning machine is not suitable for the medical beauty industry, but is mainly used for metal rust removal, paint removal, etc.
I guess at $14-15k for a machine like that, if you are in the business of earning a living doing work like that in a shop, or on the field, then it's worth it over time. But not for the DYI guy going these types of projects. For the DYI person, a small Harbor Freight sand and media parts blaster is the way to go if you have lots to do. For a few small jobs on a budget, a wire wheel on a bench grinder (or for portability, a fast portable drill) with proper eye wear, welding gloves and a bib is really all you need.
At only $14k, I can buy one of these every couple weeks! Fabulous!
No shit. When I saw this video I thought “Great! This guy bought one for home use. Maybe they’ve gone down in price since I saw them about a year ago.” Umm… not so much. Very cool tool, and I’d love to have one, but way more than I can justify spending.
I thought the same too. But then I saw they are around $14k and it curbed my enthusiasm straight away lol. I did see some cheaper packs by other brands but not sure how reliable or how effective they are as some were priced at $400 to $1800… seems a bit suspicious if you know what I mean.
these can also clean underwater ---> hull work. you can't use rust kutter underwater.
I love that he's showing how to build a fence on the cheap but spends 14k on a tool! Sounds like something I'd do! But I'd have to use the tool often for that price.
@@michaelknotts6244you gotta learn to live cheaply so you can afford to spend big. Always been very stingy and efficient with my money for the most part, it allows me to buy fun weird shit that interests me without a second thought 😂
Its crazy that such a useful machine now fits into a backpack. I think I saw one of these on TheBackyardScientist but his machine was way bigger.
Yup. His was the video that I saw about two months ago that first made me aware this stuff even existed. He did a great job. Thanks for commenting!!
The larger ones are water cooled.
This is a totally off base comment so I apologize for it in advance.
I feel like your look, with your backyard and your hat and glasses, is pretty unique. At least, when I see you I think "Oh yeah! That's the really cool guy who did the earthen rocket mass heater and the incredible rainwater collection system and the GOAT.
But when I saw this thumbnail, I didn't recognize that. I think if you potentially had a picture of yourself in your iconic outfit, (either on your profile pic or the thumbnail), I might have a better chance of recognizing it! I am kicking myself for not realizing this video that popped up in my feed was you until 2 days had past!
Anyways, I'm by no means an expert, just giving you my two cents. I love your projects, and the way you record them! Thanks for being so inspirational!
That’s good to know. It hadn’t really occurred to me. I’ll see if I can think of a different version for a thumbnail. Thanks for the feedback and for your support!
When there's something strange, in the neighborhood. Who ya gonna call!? SuburbanBiology 😂😂???
Don’t cross the lasers…..
Nice to have the lay out of different laser examples..Thanks for sharing.👍
Obviously, a decent tool, but at 15 grand, way out of my price range.
I'll stick to my wire and wafer wheels to prep metal for welding.
Thanks for introducing it to us all.
Yeah I got mine I’m beat up condition for cheaper than the 15 they sell for today. They are not cheap unfortunately. Thanks!
I like your more laid-back but detailed "real world practicality" take on this over the usual "OMG!!!!!!! LAZORZ CAN DO THIS????" clickbait. Incidentally, your particular machine seems to use the same galvanometer scanners used in laser show projectors, in theory they could be hacked so that the "freedom" preset actually engraves the stars and stripes into items 😄
Cool idea. Thanks for commenting! Glad you enjoyed!
I have an upright piano that I want to refinish so but scare of how long it would take to use the normal chemical stripper. I found the laser method a few months ago, so I was excited to see a longer video on how they work. Even if this one isn't able to remove stain.
I attempted to remove some stain from some old cabinet doors. My particular doors had been coated with polyurethane. I found that the polyurethane wound up kind of burning. I have seen other videos of laser, cleaners removing wood stain. I did not take the time to research how to do this. I’m not sure if I had the wrong settings punched in or if the polyurethane just made it impossible. From videos online though it seems like some units can do it. Perhaps a bit of research would lead to me realize that this machine is actually more capable of it than I realize??? Thank you for commenting and for subscribing.
The pulsed model laser cleaner can clean rust paint graffiti oxidized layers of oil welds etc. on both metallic and non-metallic materials without damaging the substrate.
If ASMR were to translate into laser cleaning..........I love the music you choose to play in the background while we watch the laser cleaning going on. It's almost hypnotic. Relaxing.
I’m glad you enjoyed it. I had the same idea 😂
Is this the same laser they're using to trim trees ??
How much do they cost ?? AliExpress has this one for under $300 .
Is that one real or junk ? And where can I get the right safety glasses for it ??
this machine is absolutely incredible!!
thank you for the explanation btw, very thorough :)
I’m glad you enjoyed it.!Thanks for commenting!
What camera did you buy and what frame rates were effective for showing the laser?
Where are your laser safety glasses for IR Mayne OD7+? 1064-`1070nm?
It’s very cheap, only $15,200 in September 2024
so when will I be able to get my 40k Imperial guard lasgun?
If you have a painted car part (for instance, an engine block or wiper motor housing) and want to remove oil/grease, can settings be adjusted to remove just the surface grime without affecting the paint or does the laser clean down to bare metal every time?
It’s a portable laser welder that I want. Cool tech tho, had no idea people were doing this. Good video.
Do not let me buy one.
I cannot be trusted!
lol. Fun but expensive……but fun
The Sistine Chapel is cleaned with a laser. No harsh chemicals or human touch.
Lmao you don't have to explain why you fast forward it. We , i appreciate it.
I just didn’t want to be accused of over-reporting the machine’s abilities. Thanks for commenting!
How the hell do you afford a 14K laser tool? Teach me your ways!
Intrestin whats the price
Links in description. This model was discontinued. Newer more powerful model is more expensive 😔
Like a mini crop circle.
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Exceptional Video, Thank You.
Thank YOU for watching and commenting! 🙏🏼
Hi. Really, thank you. I am an older man (65) and in my prime before a serious injury, I would build from scrap and reclaim and re-purpose anything for the sheer creative joy of it. Now through like minded people like you, I can still enjoy my old life, with a "New Tech Twist". So again, Thank You.@@suburbanbiology
Hi. Really, thank you. I am an older man (65) and in my prime before a serious injury, I would build from scrap and reclaim and re-purpose anything for the sheer creative joy of it. Now through like minded people like you, I can still enjoy my old life, with a "New Tech Twist". So again, Thank You.@@suburbanbiology
I've been a coded welder for 40 years, and I don't think even I could get value from a machine like that. I'm not saying that it wouldn't occasionally have been useful, but it would never have been 10 grand useful.
I must admit that the 10k price tag is still high which is why I got a ding/dent version. The prices seem to be falling rapidly which is part of why I didn’t mention price in the video. I’m betting it will be like many technologies where in 5 years it will 90% off. Just curious do you think this thing would be 1k useful or not even that?
@@suburbanbiology Personally, not for me. I can do 99% of what that machine can do with a 4 inch grinder and a flap disk, faster, way cheaper and lighter. I notice it has a 1 year guarantee (except for misuse) on everything except the laser source, so I wouldn't expect it to last much longer than that if used in an industrial setting, and even at $1k, that's still not good value for my use case.
If you work on cars or some other things where you deal with lots of rust then this would be great.
As a car mechanic that struggles with LOTS OF RUST this would be amazing.
I usually use a pneumatic needle descaler then sanding or a small wire wheel on an pipe to reach hard spots, have made my own with copperpipe and steel wires and then soldered for a pin wire wheel, it's slow but the only functional tool sometimes and a laser would be soo much faster and better than solvents, knife blades, sand paper and wire wheel for so many things and do less damage to the base metal
I’ve never been a welder and I disagree I think it would pay for itself rich people don’t like to wait and would be awed by the technology. Restoring old car parts etc / boats / tools / toys/ antiques/ tools
It is interesting. I wonder how you could use it under tight spaces safely, like a frame of a trailer. With car oil and all it would not be safe to use around a vehicle but maybe work trailers and camper frames to remove rust.
With thick enough oil coated on anything you’re correct. This would definitely ignite thick layers of grease and oil. It would be a good idea to have a lot of ventilation and a fire extinguisher very close by before you attempt anything like that. Thanks for commenting and for subscribing!
completely unrelated question - do you think the metal fabrication/machining industries would be a sustainable career change choice for someone in their 30's with 4 kids?
I have a hard time, imagining the future of such an industry right now. I follow the development of the robotic space fairly closely. Even though most people don’t seem to be aware of it, at this time, it seems likely that humanoid robots may be on a tipping point toward becoming very “helpful” in the next five years. if humanoid robots, do indeed, become actually useful in the next several years, I could see that disrupting industries where things are welded on a massive scale. Assembly lines, especially. If you are talking about an industry of metal fabrication, where items are made at low volume, I think there’s a better chance that this industry may remain stable. I think, assembly lines in general, are going to be very disrupted in the next decade. I would certainly encourage everyone to pursue metal fabrication as a hobby to some degree. It is an incredibly powerful skill set. I just don’t know as far as being a new career. If you are considering changing to this career, I would advise having a diverse skill set where you would have the option to produce low-volume products. I hope that makes sense. Thank you for your thought-provoking question.
@alexanderkonczal3908 The other concern is about competition/existing users or businesses. There are companies who have other means : Acid, media blasting. I can imagine machine shops buying this, not to mention the other shops that process rust. You may ask the local machine shops and auto restoration shops if they have one and if you provided that as a service, how much time per month they would need your service. Best wishes! :)
We'll have to wait a few years for the aliexpress version..
They used a laser to clean the Sistine chapel.
Amazing video as always. Quite funny that you start whilstling "So fresh and so Clean" by Outkast at exactly 4:20 😂
Thanks for noticing! It was crazy to think how “old” that song is now. Still feels new in my head.
Looks like attaching this thing to a CNC Gantry would make a lot of sense if you had a lot of material to clean. That way you could both optimize the Z axis and reduce the need to manually carry, hold and move the darn thing.
Sure for odd 3D shaped objects this wouldn't work great, but, for mostly 2D surfaces like beams and other materials it would make sense.
That would be awesome. Maybe someday. I need a bigger workshop 😂
Your Amazon link is to an unavailable item, but the item is merely moved to another link. You could update it.
I should do that. I heard from the company recently that they discontinued that particular model to focus on a higher powered unit. Thanks for the feedback!
Would an exhaust fan help? Even outside that vaporised surface drifts upward toward you and the lens.
Yes a portable Makita fan is helpful. Would have altered the video and audio though so I avoided it here.
Very cool Mate. Been looking to get 1 of these for a while now
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Glad you enjoyed it. Links in description if you want to check out this particular model. Thanks for watching and commenting!
What does it taste like breathing in the fumes from that without a face mask? :)
This is the second comment that seems concerned about me not wearing a respirator. I am confused why folks are asking. unless I missed something I wore a respirator with an organic vapor cartridge in every scene that I was using the laser. Which scene are you referring to? Thanks for commenting!
@suburbanbiology ...with a beard and probably without a proper and valid fit test and instructions, might I ask ?
Not sure if your iPhone app store can download camera apps where you can use a custom shutter speed for video but on my Android i just randomly found one app where i can do that and it's amazing to get a more human like video where the shutter speed can be locked to 60, 50, 40, 30 and many more then i can take the ISO way down and get much better quality and have just perfect motion blur and no light flickering
Seems great for removing rust from hard to reach area's like the vise and table, but I was concerned it may have a lead base paint and your breathing the fumes. For the big flat surfaces a palm sander would be way faster. Cool video I seen someone else use a similar device on YT.
I had on a carbon respirator but I must admit I could smell a bit of the smoke. My silly beard out to get me. I would normally turn a fan on to blow the smoke away but the air shook the camera. Sacrificing health for a good shot 😂
homie the lead base paint is the least of the concerns when using a strong laser. That shit will blind you faster than you can make a joke about going blind without proper safety attire.
I did not see what laser source this machine is using other than it is a 100watt laser. I have a 100watt JPT. I set the Pulse to 500ns and the frequency to 68khz for max power output. With that I can cut through 16gauge steel with about 200 passes going 1000 mm/sec and a 160mm lens. Did this machine come with any recommended settings?
The settings are largely adjustable. This laser has a gun the sweeps the beam around. If yours is able to cut I would imagine it doesn’t sweep the beam? The link in the description will have more details.
@@suburbanbiology Yes, the beam sweeps across the material with a galvo head. That is 2 mirrors attached to 2 motors that rapidly moves the beam around.
where to buy this machine in Europe ? please send links :)
I put links in the description. I’m not sure if they will work in Europe. Worth a shot though. Thanks!
Any issue with toxic fumes from the material that is being burnt off?
I wear a respirator when I use this. Yes there is risk from the fumes that burn off. Thanks for commenting!
Does a laser take any metal off like sand blasting?
Technically yes. The very surface is slightly removed. But it’s so superficial that you can barely even tell. If you leave the gun still for too long you can see a slight depression where the laser repeatedly scoured into the metal. Thanks for commenting and for subscribing!
About subscribing… I love your channel for DIY projects, steel work, and welding. Keep it up! In my past life I learned how to MiG weld but today I don’t know where to start concerning purchasing, safety, and if MIG is the way to go? Could you possibly post a video on where to start or what you use?
Where can I get one? I have been a fabricator for a while that looks a whole lot easier and less time ❤
There were links in the description but I just found out last week they discontinued this model for a more powerful (and more expensive) one. I’m sorry. Thanks for watching!!!
nice video! I really appreciate the effort you put into it! :D
At least watch it first
I appreciate the comment. The first minute of film always winds up being the bulk of my tedious effort to edit. Thanks for your support!
😂 I appreciate BOTH of you commenting!!!
@@dheerajsharma5297 Yes of course. I watched enough to know it was worth a comment :) Now that I'm done watching it I'm even more certain about my original take.
@@Flameb0yant fair
$10,000. no thanks
I wanted one. Then saw the price tag. 15k is too much for the few times that I need it I guess i'll stick to the sand and compressor one.
I think I would very quickly rig up a system with a linear actuator/rail system so that it could run on its own. Sure it looks fun for a while but I think for large objects and for best results I would think that would be the way to go!
I use Rust Kutter from tractor supply $12.99 its not for lazy people because after you spray it on you also have to brush it off.
I’ll look into it. Thanks!
@@suburbanbiology NP should make a good video.
Good tool I will purchase one I do frame repair on car's and trucks in Maine
Hope you enjoy it! Thanks for your support!
Dude, maybe we can talk about this awesome laser cleaning machine😊
But can you create a jig to turn this into a lawnmower?
😂 could do
Cool tool but the dangerous, boring, low effort, and low cost method you shown with brake fluid seems better. The laser does seem ideal for the fence posts although a wire wheel on the pipe ends after cutting might be good. I bought a low end plasma cutter.
Good points, all. Thanks for watching both videos and for commenting!
Very slow process 😂😂😂
RustBusters -- Who you Gonna Call?
HI would like to see how its works on wood surface if possible?Thank you
It burns it 😂 even if I wet the wood I could not get it to clean it without burning it. Maybe operator error?? 🤷
Ah ok i think that its possible without correct settings that it burns the wood for sure😊
Brilliant project Congratulations CAN BE USE FOR CUTTING TREE I THE FOREST???
Technically a stronger version of this laser could be. A channel called backyard scientist showed that. Thanks for commenting and for subscribing!
Brilliant video, I thought these machines were a gimmick, but you demonstrated a real-world situation. Wonderful editing and camera work, and I am subscribing to see more of your channel.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you and welcome aboard!
I never seen anything like that . Pretty cool machine . Thanks
Thank YOU for watching! And for subscribing!
WOAH!!! 😮
WOAH!!! 😮
1 Hr on the battery option is okay. my solar is 48 volt and setting up a 48v portable LIFEPO4 on a dolly combined with this seems like a doable solution if the investment is worth it.
definitely amazing for odd shaped surfaces, beats having to soak metal items in acid or solutions to clean them. can get inside all those nooks and crannies for general metal maintenance.
Yeah it’s pretty nice for detailed work. Thanks for commenting!
I’m not sure if I misheard something, but I thought the laser cleaner was ≈ $1,000 but the one you linked to is $10,000
Unfortunately no it was not 1,000. I don’t think I said that anywhere. Maybe the title?? Thousands was spelled with a dollar sign instead of s. It was meant to grab attention not to mislead. I got it about half priced due to slight damage to the machine. Prices are still high. My guess is that prices will come down rather rapidly over time. Thanks for commenting!
Forgive my ignorence on this subject, but I am curious about something. Obviously, this device is faster than a sand blaster/media blaster, but is it cheeper to operate?
Cheaper to operate, yes. Cheaper to purchase maybe not. I guess it depends if you buy a sand blasting cabinet or not. Thanks for commenting and for subscribing!
I was all set to buy the 15k laser pack but it wasn’t offered as prime 2 day delivery. Deal breaker
😂 Amazon needs to get on that!
Great technical knowledge!! Thanks!!!
I’m glad you enjoyed it!
Super cool tool, but if you're filming in real time, seems like a grinder could do the job nearly the same speed for a fraction of the cost.
Yeah I think that’s a fair summary. The more expensive ones are faster but this model was already at the ceiling of what I was willing to pay.
So did cost thousands ?
Indeed. I got it around half priced since it was a bit banged up. Still works great though.
Do yourself a favor. You should have received a bendable plastic line that threads into the top of the laser body. That is for air to be blown onto the lens or you can aim it at what you are cleaning. It helps keep the lens clean. I have this machine as well as a 1500w cw
Thanks for the tip! I didn’t hook it up because it obscured the shots of the cleaning but unless I’m in windy conditions I plan on using that tube and hooking up to a compressor. Thanks for commenting!
Would this clean tile and grout? If so, it would be awesome for cleaning nasty tile showers.
Yes it should be able to handle that just fine. It may slightly mar the tile finish though since it technically scours into the surface just a tiny bit. If you could stick to just the grout though it would probably work fine. Thanks for commenting.
Amazing technology!
Could you hook the device up to a cnc machine? Obviously it would be better to have a dedicated machine, but it might make it useful?
I had the same thought. I’m sure it would be possible to attach to a CNC. I don’t have room for one so I probably won’t be able to try it but I definitely think it’s possible. Thanks for commenting twice!!!
What length of time did you get from the battery? Can this unit be used on other materials? Wood , stone that kinda of thing?
Great video by rhe way
I didn’t get the battery for this machine. If you check the link in the description I think they go into more detail on battery life. It was at least a few hours. The laser will clean multiple surfaces including stone. I found it works best on metal though.
Holy 💩!!! That suckers expensive.
Yes it is 😞 I got mine discounted for scratch and dent. But it still wasn’t cheap. It’s fun though!
It’s 10 grand for that machine you must be loaded
I got a scratch and dent version without a battery so it was marked down significantly.
Use specialized glasses when using it and do not use it around others. See what Styropyro wears.
I included them in my other laser video but forgot to mention safety gear in this one. I do indeed use special glasses. Thanks for commenting!!
What is the effect on rust?
Super effective at removing rust.
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Hahaha that's like $20k
I bought a weaker cheaper model in used condition so it was a lot cheaper. But yeah they aren’t all that affordable (yet) unfortunately. Hopefully soon though
Can you cross the steams?
Only once 😂
well I can see u have done no time with ur Uncle Sam. The fled load for a soldier is about 120lb with some going with as much as 150lb. This u wear with a little break every now and then when u can take some of it off for up to 20 hr a day
20lb ani,t shit even when I am 75.
By the way English major still say ani.t is only used by less eded ppl.
sorry English majors but those of us with Master in other fields use ani't all the time. We do this in the presents of English Majors just to fu'k the up.
Yes i do not like English majors b/c they think they know it all when all they really know is one language and use their knowledge of it to put down others that saw no need to take any more English after HS then that required by our degrees. For me that was 2 hr of technical writing something English majors hate b/c here we are taught to write in as few words as u can and dont worry if u dont have a completed sentence in the lot
Technical writing is to inform others in ur field of what u are doing and so proper English is not needed.
Thank you for your service. I assume from your knowledge here that you served. Thank you and cheers 🍻
My man, what's the point of your comment and how is it related to this video ?! 😂
Im amazed at your patience to clean this whole beam!
Yeah it certainly isn’t the fastest machine 😂 the vise was super fun though!
I worked with Laser from 82-89. Stop the job b/c i had saved enough to by me a farm the thing I really wanted
What u have there is an engraving laser with all it innards made small and a focal point that is much further away then the ones I used. Yes this lasers I used were bought in 81. U could blast something of the medal or etch in the medal.
I would love to have one of those but 10K is just to much
And did u actually pay 10K for that thing.
It was about half price due to dings and scratches etc. thanks for commenting!!!
Can you provide the approximate cost of the machine?
Link in description. The price fluctuates but full price last I checked was near 10k.
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Be great to weld on where the laser has cleaned that area
That’s the main reason I wanted it. To prep irregular surfaces before I weld them. Sometimes a grinder can’t get into nooks etc.
Hi there sorry but I've already subscribed but I have hit the lick button
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"lick" button 😝😂
$15k....
I got scratch and dent price on a recently discontinued model. It was much cheaper than that. I’m sorry things changed since I published the video.
Can you start a fire in your fire pit with it
Yes I could 😂 thanks for commenting!
Looks like a cool tool for artists as well
Agreed. Pricey but awesome!
Can it cut threw steel ?????
Only if you hold it REALLY still for a very long time 😂
ive you tired metal that was oil painted?
I’m pretty sure the primer on those steel beams is oil-based paint. If you are asking if I have tried metal that is coated in grease and oil. Yes I have. This laser works well on both. Like I said in the video it takes a little bit of time, but for small, very irregular surfaces it works incredibly well
@@suburbanbiology i mean like metal fences with oil paint
Ghostbusters ASMR. 😊
lol. I should have named the channel THAT! 😂 thanks for commenting!
Cook a steak or a hot dog next please.
lol. It would take a while. Maybe a tiny hot dog could get heated. I saw tech ingredients do a steak but that was with a HUGE laser diode. Thanks for commenting!
@@suburbanbiology oh yeah he did. Thanks for the video. You never went into the prices of these machines. Used or new.
Also are you concerned about the laser's lifespan?
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Love it! I want one too.
They aren’t cheap…..but they ARE fun! Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@suburbanbiology love your videos. It’s my pleasure. Keep making more.
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Concerning the smoke getting to the lens. I think the use of a fan could prevent that when using in doors.
This machine actually comes with a little bendable straw that you can hook up to an air compressor to blow the smoke away from the work Peace. For the sake of this video, I thought that that obstructed the view of the workpiece too much though. By the end of the video I had already slightly damaged one of the protective lenses. I probably should’ve mentioned that in the video body. Maybe I will add that to the description right now just for the sake of clarity. Thank you for commenting, and for subscribing.
@@suburbanbiologyThe use of a fan (even worse a blower) is always a bad idea with airborne contaminants (you just spread them and/or put them back into the air for several minutes/hours depending on the aerodynamical diameters). It's better to suck the smoke near the surface with an industrial (fireproof) vaccuum that has an HEPA filter.
Unfortunately that table was ruined, patina was pretty.
I see your point. I can always just remove the paint with the laser 😂
If I have to look it up to get a price then this is nothing more than clickbait and you get an F
Left a link for you in the description.