I can’t understand why the viewer metrics for this channel are still so criminally low. I’m not smart enough to understand how YT algorithms work but common sense tells me this guy should be killing it. I’ll keep watching and liking and I hope a bunch more people discover this gem.
Another vote for a Department of Boost manifold kit and your choice of positive displacement blower. The combination of such a fat torque curve and AWD will be amazing.
Looking good Tim! Check out Cleetus Mcfarland's supercharged Cuyote pickup on his channel. Thing pulled like 860 HP on E85. I think like 650 HP on street gas. Supercharger might be the way to go!
I'm ROOTING for you. I don't have the time or money to invest in a project like yours, but if I did, I'd be doing what you're doing. I've always wanted to have an AWD mustang. It'd put the GT-R to shame AND cut the price in half!
Depending on how and when you want the power coming on, take some time looking at the boost curves between centrifical and rotary screws. Also the centrifical can be routed to an inter cooler much easier and I would definitely recommend as big an inter cooler as you can fit. Also find much bigger injectors and a tuning map to match the much different airflow. These recommendations are based on hard learned lessons! Also I’m talking about doubling power at the least. I have little experience with low boost applications. Rod
Go supercharger and get a Department of Boost manifold and a Titanic heat exchanger! You will have much better clearance around everywhere! I had a turbo on my Mustang and fitting all the pipes in was a pain in the ***. The DOB manifold will also allow you to use all sorts of superchargers so you just swap that and you can bump power in no time.
Thanks, yes, it is trying to save the clutch. But what is activating it? It must think the clutch is slipping, when it is not. Something to do with the gear ratios, engine speed, etc?
@@npvgIs this an actual side effect of the front ABS count per revolution making it think the clutch is slipping? I presume something is hitting functions meant to save the clutch when it is slipping.
Amazing project and talent! Love the sharing of all the painful learning too. However my reason for commenting was because I have to rely on the subtitles provided by TH-cam as I am hard or hearing. And, as I was reading what you were saying about the need to calibrate the flywheel I kept seeing that you had never tried a "foreskin" and repeated references to you using (your) "foreskin". Once I could breathe again, from fits of laughter, I realised you were in fact saying "Forescan"! Just love it when these websites get it wrong as they add whole new level of entertainment. Suggest you do a review on Forscan just for our entertaiment. 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Loving the project! Found your 331 XR4 years ago on the Merkur club forums while I was buying my own 87 XR and now I'm very excited to see how your new Mustang is going to turn out. I'm a huge fan of AWD and Mustangs, so this is a small slice of heaven. Now if only they still made inline six 'stangs... Speaking of the XR4ti, any chance you could do an overview and driving video of it?
I’ve been waiting for this upload excellent work. I’ve been following since the beginning. I would say a whipple will definitely benefit from your build.
Personally I wouldn’t boost it, but it’s your project not mine! Loving the progression and all the explanations for every detail and solutions for each issue. Can’t wait to see the “finished“ product next year! Merry Christmas!
I have a theory about the torque limiting function for clutch protection. The engine software may be looking at parameters like vehicle speed, engine rpm, driveshaft rpm, calculated crank torque, gear ratio, etc. to determine whether or not there is a possibility of driving through the stock clutch and damaging the friction material. I had a 2013 GT500 and if you were in the wrong gear and floored it on the highway around peak torque rpm it would "drive thru the clutch" and if you did it too long/often you could smell it. The trinity motor was a beast and the stock clutch was undersized in my opinion. Maybe the software has been improved since 2013 to err on the side of reliability?
It could be, there are values for maximum torque in each gear, etc in the tune. I am sure it can be fixed beside just turning it off. Thanks for the feedback.
Centri or turbo raise the redline to 8k. If you decide to get it tuned I use Lund Racing and the Ngauge. I can help you with getting a good Ngauge. They're not manufactured anymore. Power by the Hour would be very interested in your build. I get a lot of parts through them and buy my Lund Racing tune through them. Christian Papa is my sales guy.
That is what I am working on now. First spindles, then motor mounts, then diff last. I had the diff mocked up last year, see episodes 1 and 2 for more details on that.
I have been following your videos on this build. Nice Work! I really want to see how you package the front differential into the Mustang. I am interested to see how to package the front diff and if you needed to cut into the oil pan... Also interested to see what frame mods that you had to do to get the stance correct with maintaining the required geometry. I have a '55 F250 that I will be putting in a Coyote and a 10 Speed auto from a 2020 Mustang. I plan to make it AWD too, however I am unclear if it will package with the other mods that I am doing. BTW, regarding the clutch protection algorithm... the software compares the engine rpm to the output shaft rpm (times the gear ratio) to determine clutch slip (when the clutch pedal is not pressed). If the clutch slip is too high, then it goes into protection mode.
I must be getting OSS/VSS errors to cause the clutch protection issue. I am sure I can fix it. As far as the oil pan goes, the diff will bolt to the oil pan and the driver's side jack shaft will go through the pan. I will getting into that soon. Current plan is front spindle then front crossmember, then oil pan, etc. Your project sound cool and my guess is that you could run a separate diff below the engine in a truck depending how low you go.
I recently owned a 2006 Mazda 6, southern car. Everything on it was pristine pretty much except the exhaust and the brake rotors. I think when you hit those hot parts with water it must do a number on them. Sadly I wrecked that car after I got it dialed in. Wasn't doing any shenanigans either, just driving in heavy traffic and didn't see someone coming. Anyway, my Flex, which was a SoCal car its whole life, had zero exhaust or brake rust (other than surface) until I moved here to the south, so I think that's it. It's gotta be the moisture on the hot parts.
My son has a Roush Stage 2 supercharger on his 2016 GT that has produced over 700HP (with other bolt-ons). He may be interested in selling the kit if your interested.
Why Ford doesn't offer a 5.0 Mustang with an AWD option is beyond me. Similar to a BMW X-drive or Nissan GT-R or some other RWD with front assist system.
The stock exhaust on s550 mustangs, all of them, are absolute trash when it comes to rust prevention. Any "rust-free" car I get I paint the whole exhaust with header paint after getting all the surface rust gone
It's really hard to deny the performance a Whipple supercharger would add to this. The downsides I see are parasitic drag and fuel economy. I don't think that transfer case would really handle much more than a Whipple could offer. Then again, the Whipple might offer too much torque and in the wrong places. I can only imagine the horror you'd have to go through to get turbos to fit under that hood.
My current daily is an supercharged S4 and that has really started to change my mind on supercharger vs turbo. There is no question a turbo would make more power, especially on pump gas, but the instant response of the blower is addicting in my S4.
I have a 2008 bullitt, has all the mods you could get NA, still no where near a coyote. The AWD would be a wonderful addition but I am not as smart as you man!
@@npvg i bought it to make money but i fell in love with the green. I am a nut about ruby red, was going to do my truck in bedliner green all over but got that mustang threw a nuke in all my master plans
I can’t understand why the viewer metrics for this channel are still so criminally low. I’m not smart enough to understand how YT algorithms work but common sense tells me this guy should be killing it. I’ll keep watching and liking and I hope a bunch more people discover this gem.
Tell me about it:) Spread the word and if you have any suggestions, let me know.
The most Badass mustang build on the internet by far! Love the build! Can't wait to see the finalized product.
Thanks! I am making some progress on the spindles and I hope to post an update soon.
Another vote for a Department of Boost manifold kit and your choice of positive displacement blower. The combination of such a fat torque curve and AWD will be amazing.
Good to see you getting the car on the road. Sometimes just getting it rolling again will breathe new life into the project.
AWD always a supercharger no more spinning good videos
Seriously nice work, your channel is destined for greatness.
Glad you think so!
This looks fantastic! I'd love to see you team up with a motorsports team to optimize the suspension and corner balance for the AWD system!
Very nice job! I can imagine you're gonna really freak some people out if you drive that in the snow!
That will be a fun day!
Looking good Tim! Check out Cleetus Mcfarland's supercharged Cuyote pickup on his channel. Thing pulled like 860 HP on E85. I think like 650 HP on street gas. Supercharger might be the way to go!
Coyote awd is awesome great job man
I'm ROOTING for you. I don't have the time or money to invest in a project like yours, but if I did, I'd be doing what you're doing. I've always wanted to have an AWD mustang. It'd put the GT-R to shame AND cut the price in half!
I hope I put a GT-R to shame:)
Can't wait to see it in supercharged AWD form. Love the videos.
Excellent work, been following this build and loved every step! Thank you for sharing!
Depending on how and when you want the power coming on, take some time looking at the boost curves between centrifical and rotary screws. Also the centrifical can be routed to an inter cooler much easier and I would definitely recommend as big an inter cooler as you can fit. Also find much bigger injectors and a tuning map to match the much different airflow. These recommendations are based on hard learned lessons! Also I’m talking about doubling power at the least. I have little experience with low boost applications.
Rod
This is fantastic - I wish this would be picked up for full production!
I agree:)
Another great video Tim! It's interesting to see you working through the problems as they arize.
Thanks 👍
turbos are fun we just finished a 67 fastback with a sbf turbo its fun and the noise ya can't beat! I told him next one we do with be awd and turbo.
I know, I love Turbo's too.
Go supercharger and get a Department of Boost manifold and a Titanic heat exchanger! You will have much better clearance around everywhere! I had a turbo on my Mustang and fitting all the pipes in was a pain in the ***. The DOB manifold will also allow you to use all sorts of superchargers so you just swap that and you can bump power in no time.
I am currently leaning that way.
In the Boss 302 the Torque Limit is used for "Launch Control" to limit the revs as you dump the clutch.. :)
Thanks, yes, it is trying to save the clutch. But what is activating it? It must think the clutch is slipping, when it is not. Something to do with the gear ratios, engine speed, etc?
@@npvgIs this an actual side effect of the front ABS count per revolution making it think the clutch is slipping? I presume something is hitting functions meant to save the clutch when it is slipping.
Incredible workmanship and persistence!
Thanks!
I just want to say that I have been following this conversion for some time now and this is awesome lol. Learning a lot. Thank you sir!
Thanks, more to come.
Amazing project and talent! Love the sharing of all the painful learning too.
However my reason for commenting was because I have to rely on the subtitles provided by TH-cam as I am hard or hearing. And, as I was reading what you were saying about the need to calibrate the flywheel I kept seeing that you had never tried a "foreskin" and repeated references to you using (your) "foreskin". Once I could breathe again, from fits of laughter, I realised you were in fact saying "Forescan"!
Just love it when these websites get it wrong as they add whole new level of entertainment. Suggest you do a review on Forscan just for our entertaiment.
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Loving the project! Found your 331 XR4 years ago on the Merkur club forums while I was buying my own 87 XR and now I'm very excited to see how your new Mustang is going to turn out. I'm a huge fan of AWD and Mustangs, so this is a small slice of heaven. Now if only they still made inline six 'stangs...
Speaking of the XR4ti, any chance you could do an overview and driving video of it?
I have recorded some video for the Merkur, but it takes time away from the Mustang to put it together. I will have something out.
15:03 You can get a aluminium part from 5spurs to cover up that chrome (after removing the loose chrome)
Link?
I’ve been waiting for this upload excellent work. I’ve been following since the beginning. I would say a whipple will definitely benefit from your build.
Glad to see it drove on its own power! Give it a supercharger! Keep up the great work.
I think a supercharger is the new plan since it will be much faster to implement then a turbo.
Awesome man!
Personally I wouldn’t boost it, but it’s your project not mine! Loving the progression and all the explanations for every detail and solutions for each issue. Can’t wait to see the “finished“ product next year! Merry Christmas!
I am addicted to boost!
Looking good Tim.
Thanks 👍
hat off your great works
Thanks 🙏
Well done sir - keep up the good work!
I want to make an awd mustang too
Remote mount turbo(s) over the SC, if that tickles your fancy 😁
Do you mean low mount, like the Hellion kit?
@@npvg yes, have a friend that went with an STS style single turbo where the heck seat had been in his 2000 Cobra. Sounded amazing!
I have a theory about the torque limiting function for clutch protection. The engine software may be looking at parameters like vehicle speed, engine rpm, driveshaft rpm, calculated crank torque, gear ratio, etc. to determine whether or not there is a possibility of driving through the stock clutch and damaging the friction material. I had a 2013 GT500 and if you were in the wrong gear and floored it on the highway around peak torque rpm it would "drive thru the clutch" and if you did it too long/often you could smell it. The trinity motor was a beast and the stock clutch was undersized in my opinion. Maybe the software has been improved since 2013 to err on the side of reliability?
It could be, there are values for maximum torque in each gear, etc in the tune. I am sure it can be fixed beside just turning it off. Thanks for the feedback.
Centri or turbo raise the redline to 8k. If you decide to get it tuned I use Lund Racing and the Ngauge. I can help you with getting a good Ngauge. They're not manufactured anymore. Power by the Hour would be very interested in your build. I get a lot of parts through them and buy my Lund Racing tune through them. Christian Papa is my sales guy.
Another great video!!! Thanks
Are you going to make a video on how you fit the front diff to the engine and shafts out to the spindles?
That is what I am working on now. First spindles, then motor mounts, then diff last. I had the diff mocked up last year, see episodes 1 and 2 for more details on that.
I've been waiting for Ford to do this. They need to keep up with the times.
Guau this is awesome
This is awesome
I have been following your videos on this build. Nice Work! I really want to see how you package the front differential into the Mustang. I am interested to see how to package the front diff and if you needed to cut into the oil pan... Also interested to see what frame mods that you had to do to get the stance correct with maintaining the required geometry. I have a '55 F250 that I will be putting in a Coyote and a 10 Speed auto from a 2020 Mustang. I plan to make it AWD too, however I am unclear if it will package with the other mods that I am doing.
BTW, regarding the clutch protection algorithm... the software compares the engine rpm to the output shaft rpm (times the gear ratio) to determine clutch slip (when the clutch pedal is not pressed). If the clutch slip is too high, then it goes into protection mode.
I must be getting OSS/VSS errors to cause the clutch protection issue. I am sure I can fix it.
As far as the oil pan goes, the diff will bolt to the oil pan and the driver's side jack shaft will go through the pan. I will getting into that soon. Current plan is front spindle then front crossmember, then oil pan, etc.
Your project sound cool and my guess is that you could run a separate diff below the engine in a truck depending how low you go.
Great work , Tim!
Still have the Xr?
Yes I do!
Turbo!
I recently owned a 2006 Mazda 6, southern car. Everything on it was pristine pretty much except the exhaust and the brake rotors. I think when you hit those hot parts with water it must do a number on them. Sadly I wrecked that car after I got it dialed in. Wasn't doing any shenanigans either, just driving in heavy traffic and didn't see someone coming. Anyway, my Flex, which was a SoCal car its whole life, had zero exhaust or brake rust (other than surface) until I moved here to the south, so I think that's it. It's gotta be the moisture on the hot parts.
My son has a Roush Stage 2 supercharger on his 2016 GT that has produced over 700HP (with other bolt-ons). He may be interested in selling the kit if your interested.
TVS2300 or TVS2650?
@@npvg 2300
2300Ftw
are you going to put another video out about the front hub and brakes?
Yes, that was the plan for the next video, but I am waiting for some parts. I may split it into two videos, I want to get one out this week.
@@npvg ok. You’re project is helping me out with ideas for a future AWD project. Mines in a old car though.
Why Ford doesn't offer a 5.0 Mustang with an AWD option is beyond me. Similar to a BMW X-drive or Nissan GT-R or some other RWD with front assist system.
Of course I agree, but there is probably a pretty small market.
@@npvg Same reason Dodge won't put 850 horsepower through more than 2 tires.
Awesome
Should be easy by taking the drivetrain from a Explorer ST
That is not what I did, check out the rest of the videos. The explorer front diff would not fit well.
Thanks for watching!
I'm sorry, I can't keep a straight face when saying FORScan...
Me either:)
The stock exhaust on s550 mustangs, all of them, are absolute trash when it comes to rust prevention. Any "rust-free" car I get I paint the whole exhaust with header paint after getting all the surface rust gone
GT-RRR (Tim Allen)
Hellion twins
I love the idea, but I am not sure their low mount system will wort since there will be a driveshaft on the right side.
Supercharger!!!
It's really hard to deny the performance a Whipple supercharger would add to this. The downsides I see are parasitic drag and fuel economy. I don't think that transfer case would really handle much more than a Whipple could offer. Then again, the Whipple might offer too much torque and in the wrong places. I can only imagine the horror you'd have to go through to get turbos to fit under that hood.
My current daily is an supercharged S4 and that has really started to change my mind on supercharger vs turbo. There is no question a turbo would make more power, especially on pump gas, but the instant response of the blower is addicting in my S4.
@@npvg you mean when you turn off the traction control, right? 😉
Not an AMERICAN GTR....JUST AMERICAN GRT
I can't tell if this is a compliment or a dig, either way, thanks for watching!
I have a 2008 bullitt, has all the mods you could get NA, still no where near a coyote. The AWD would be a wonderful addition but I am not as smart as you man!
I love the Bullitts, great color! I have a weird soft spot for green Mustangs.
@@npvg i bought it to make money but i fell in love with the green. I am a nut about ruby red, was going to do my truck in bedliner green all over but got that mustang threw a nuke in all my master plans