Building the WORLDS FASTEST Jet RC Car!

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  • @aleksjenner677
    @aleksjenner677 ปีที่แล้ว +2739

    New chassis, longer wheelbase. The power is there, and with improved stability you can aim for some very fast speeds. World Record is only 205mph. You'll need to use a better radio for a full length airfield. Consider a DJI FPV to help you stay on the road next time.

    • @ska042
      @ska042 ปีที่แล้ว +214

      I wonder if it makes sense to go add some automation with something like ardupilot to keep it pointed straight, instead of relying on full manual control...

    • @henrywood5462
      @henrywood5462 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      An FPV is a GENIUS idea!

    • @adilsongoliveira
      @adilsongoliveira ปีที่แล้ว +91

      I don't think DJI is a good idea for this application. I think simple analog 5.8Ghz video would be a better, less laggy and less prone to simply go blank. I would also replace the radio with crossfire or ELRS.

    • @colinmetzger6755
      @colinmetzger6755 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      I'd recommend an expressLRS PWM receiver. Best range on an RC link you can get.
      +1 to adding an FPV system

    • @James-oo1yq
      @James-oo1yq ปีที่แล้ว +14

      That's a record that can be broken. I would enjoy watching him attempt to do it on the channel

  • @joeydr1497
    @joeydr1497 ปีที่แล้ว +136

    I think that a mangled wreck is a cool piece of set dressing, like the red pickup from top gear.

    • @timehunter9467
      @timehunter9467 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That Hilux still starts I think 🤔

    • @jackmagnium6115
      @jackmagnium6115 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@timehunter9467 it does.

  • @OffHeading
    @OffHeading ปีที่แล้ว +380

    Opinions of a Skydiver: The parachute is getting caught in a ‘burble’. The pocket of dead air directly behind the car, is the same as the dead air right above your body and rig when skydiving. You use a pilot chute and throw it out to the side when skydiving to make sure it gets out in the air flow. My thoughts are; either using a similar deployment as a reserve parachute by using a spring to deploy it and fire it out away from the car which would be easiest, or, a pilot chute to pull it out deployed from a point in the air flow.

    • @1over137
      @1over137 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Exactly. You can make your chute/lines pretty hard to pull out, but just use a decent pilot drag chute and it will come. Means you only need to "fire" or propel the smaller lighter drag chute, and let it do the work of pulling the main.
      Alternative and probably more fun! Fire a bolt out of the bottom of the car into the tarmac, using a Hilti nail gun, with the chute bag attached to it! That'll get it out.
      Actually. A static line across the track and a hook on the deploy cord that catches it. Means you can't not deploy it in the braking zone.

    • @mikehaberski4596
      @mikehaberski4596 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Like a smaller tube above the deadzone where the air will pull the primary chute out that sounds like a good idea also i have seen other speedrun cars eliminate front shocks & use adjustable turnbuckles this stops any chance of air coming up under the front

    • @runarwrnes2944
      @runarwrnes2944 ปีที่แล้ว

      A pilot chute will definitely help. On fighter jets the pilot chute is released by a strong spring "shooting" it away form the turbulent air of the aircraft. The pilot chute and the spring is simply held by a mechanical lever which actuates to free the tension of the spring and the pilot chute with it. The pilot chute will then pull out the main chute like NayshanOG said.

    • @mrsnezbit2219
      @mrsnezbit2219 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@runarwrnes2944 i think for a parachute so small a 10 cm string can work as a pilot chute

    • @turbotonic27
      @turbotonic27 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or Just aim the deployer to the left or right of the car .

  • @jumpinfool
    @jumpinfool ปีที่แล้ว +169

    one thing to look into is having a highspeed steering setting that makes you inputs scaled down so its doesn't get twitchy at high speeds 1:1 inputs wont work very well north of the speeds you already achieved. Great work and keep at it!

    • @MichaelCarrPilot
      @MichaelCarrPilot ปีที่แล้ว +9

      in the RC world, we call that exponential and it's exactly what you speak of!

    • @Cloxxki
      @Cloxxki ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gyros.

    • @ishaan863
      @ishaan863 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MichaelCarrPilot I had no idea that was a thing. That makes so much sense!

    • @termitreter6545
      @termitreter6545 ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly I wonder if it would be best to have some control surface on the vertical stabilizer, kinda like a plane. That kinda steering would be less affected by oscillations and inconsistent wheel to ground contact at high speed.

    • @rodertera
      @rodertera ปีที่แล้ว +1

      At 8:33 he calls low rate.

  • @zenntrox8695
    @zenntrox8695 ปีที่แล้ว +334

    Great video! It's incredible how fast it went without even going for full throttle.
    Maybe a FPV camera might help with noticing deviations earlier? Or maybe a gyro-based solution that automatically keeps it going in a straight line.

    • @Project-Air
      @Project-Air  ปีที่แล้ว +91

      Thank you! I didn't find time to touch on this in the video, but in the future I'll definitely be using a gyro. I didn't think I'd need one below 120mph, but I imagine it would have helped with the lower speed stability before the aerodynamics took over and might have avoided the crash. Looking forward to rebuilding and going for the next barrier now!

    • @Blutankalpha
      @Blutankalpha ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@Project-Air Use the car to launch unpowered rc aircraft and for testing

    • @generalmadness6832
      @generalmadness6832 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree about all those as well as it might be a bit easier to control with an rc car controller that has a gyro and some of them it’s possible to add crossfire to im not sure if the fly sky noble can have crossfire but it has a gyro and incredible range

    • @TheCeebmoj
      @TheCeebmoj ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Project-Air thinking about land speed record cars like Thrust 2 and Thrust SSC have you considered moving the jet engine lower in the chassis and a more integrated approach to aerodynamics?

    • @nyscersul42
      @nyscersul42 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Project-Air Is the giveaway comment from you? Please reply either way.

  • @cordite7207
    @cordite7207 ปีที่แล้ว +342

    Definitely consider a gyro to help you keep it straight and consider taping the front of the body down to the splitter to really seal up the front end aswell maybe print some infills and sideskirts like something from Scorched RC or alike. Crazy build, really exciting to see the development and running!

    • @curioussnake
      @curioussnake ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It did look like air got underneath the body possibly causing the oscillations, sealing that up might help a lot with that.

    • @bluecraney1
      @bluecraney1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      foil tape is best for that because it sure light weaght very small cross section and is normaly used for ducting work

    • @JoeOvercoat
      @JoeOvercoat ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bluecraney1 The speed run guys appear to use the blue type masking tape on three sides of their body shells. That might have to do with ease of access as anything else.

    • @danspratt2
      @danspratt2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes gyros! I came to the comments to say this. I've used both rate and heading hold gyros in RC cars and they both work great. Should try them for sure :)

    • @umm589
      @umm589 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is caster on the front tires possible on an rc car cuz if so it can help with stability

  • @WarpedPerception
    @WarpedPerception ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Hit the brakes and the throttle until you build thrust, then let off the brake, also remember PID, let off the throttle a certain amount of time before you actually want to stop... Yikes expensive Crash 😣.

    • @Project-Air
      @Project-Air  ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I tried throttle and brakes at the same time but at about 30% the tires start sliding! Haha too much power 😆

    • @WarpedPerception
      @WarpedPerception ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Project-Air ahhh... That makes sense, that's funny because the comment I was going to leave before this one was to add weight lol.

    • @connorrockyt2757
      @connorrockyt2757 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Project-Air make the bat mobIle

  • @eYeBallNL
    @eYeBallNL ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can just watch that fly-by over and over again. I love this project!

  • @MikeStallone
    @MikeStallone ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Really cool build! Excited to see where you go with this and how fast you get it! I’m currently also shooting for the fastest wheel driven RC car 💪🏼

    • @Project-Air
      @Project-Air  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks!

    • @MikeStallone
      @MikeStallone ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Project-Air if you want to chat about the cars setup feel free to reach out, I don’t know much about your motor but I can setup a car pretty well otherwise haha

    • @Project-Air
      @Project-Air  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MikeStallone Sure! Send me a message on Instagram! I appriciate it!

  • @crenn6977
    @crenn6977 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    You need to have a control system to make sure that next time the car tries to stay locked on a heading once you start your run (with the exception of your inputs). The other thing to try is shove some sensors (mainly an IMU) on that car to see the forces involved!

    • @oMartelinho
      @oMartelinho ปีที่แล้ว

      Lock on a heading requires more than just the radio. Rcs doesn't usually have gyroscopes, compass, an active gps, or any other resource to compensate devations. Car's setup have much more influence on it.

  • @policychanges
    @policychanges ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Since you have more than enough thrust, you could add something similar to anti-recoil vents seen on high caliber rifles that pops up to redirect thrust forward. Like a simplified commercial airplane engine.

    • @Thueerra
      @Thueerra ปีที่แล้ว

      THIS has to be the best idea so far!! Thrust reverse would be awesome and something unique in RC car!

    • @CharlieTheNerd91
      @CharlieTheNerd91 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Thueerra the para chute provides a Thrust reversal as the jet blasts air into it redirecting it :)

    • @adventure6583
      @adventure6583 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you mean a compensator?

    • @gruntopolouski5919
      @gruntopolouski5919 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@adventure6583 I think he meant porting… though that’s kind of the same thing.

  • @terminalpsychosis8022
    @terminalpsychosis8022 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Amazing project. Looking forward to version 2. I've always wondered why nobody (that I've seen) has set up a camera with a Raspberry Pi or equivalent, for steering.
    Put a nice chalk line down the track, and have the processor control steering along that arrow-straight line. Line disappears, breaks are applied. This seems like it would be easy to set up.

  • @binukaperera6019
    @binukaperera6019 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    Imagine this car being able to fly when needed. That would be interesting. :)

    • @ska042
      @ska042 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I mean, all it needs is some wings (given the airspeed, not even that large ones probably...), ideally shed some weight and and of course control surfaces. When driving, just trim down, if you want to start flying, trim up ;)

    • @binukaperera6019
      @binukaperera6019 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@ska042 Yep. After all, this is project air not project road, no? ;)

    • @olileoli2788
      @olileoli2788 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ska042 drag.

    • @StormBurnX
      @StormBurnX ปีที่แล้ว

      Look up the Storm Launcher! It's a very similar concept (and a surprisingly similar aesthetic) but also works as a boat haha

    • @kthegreat69420
      @kthegreat69420 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *james bond music starts playing*

  • @evanbarnes9984
    @evanbarnes9984 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    A POV system might help for steering. I also wonder if you could have adaptive controller gains that decrease the steering rates as the car goes faster. Or maybe you need a stability and heading assistance system like a lot of RC Test Flights Ardupilot systems use. I think when you're going this fast you probably want a microcontroller in the loop helping you maintain your heading down the track. Actually, there is a technology that I can't for the life of me remember the name of right now that uses base stations and triangulation to calculate positioning of an object. I know it's used as an alternative to GPS sometimes when you need really accurate positioning, so you could take this to the track, set up some base stations and have really high speed calculations of your position. This could be used for a fully autonomous run. Or semi-autonomous, with you handling the throttle and the system managing steering. EDIT: Real Time Kinematics, or RTK. That's the name of the system I was talking about. You can get centimeter level absolute position accuracy. Don't know if you're at all into microcontroller stuff, and that's a huge project, but this could be a cool way to go. Or do something else, like run two charged cables down the length of the track that generate magnetic fields which you sense with Hall effect sensors or magnetometers on the vehicle and use a PID controller to steer a straight line down the middle of the cables. They'd be like touchless guide rails.

    • @kingmasterlord
      @kingmasterlord ปีที่แล้ว

      rtk is relevant to my interests

    • @tomselier9307
      @tomselier9307 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A system with lower complexity would simply be a switch on the controller to switch between a "low-speed regime" and a "high-speed regime". Flick to low-speed to turn around and line up, then flick to high speed when doing the actual run.
      The low speed regime would get full authority over the steering servos, whilst the high speed regime would severely limit authority over the servos. Limiting the maximum allowed angle and perhaps a slower steering rate.

    • @evanbarnes9984
      @evanbarnes9984 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tomselier9307 I think that's probably the way to go, similar to my first idea. I've just been getting into things like sensor fusion and control systems, so doing something with RTK or magnetic guides (or hell, OpenCV running on a powerful SBC) sounds super interesting to me. I'm going to add it to my constantly expanding project list! There are too many cool things to do

    • @DonChilon210
      @DonChilon210 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rebuild and try reposition the jet engine some how into chassis. for some reason im thinking of the BATMobile from the 80's.

  • @johnnymac1976
    @johnnymac1976 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Higher spring rates and damping to match. Third spring set up like most high downforce race cars. Front to rear aero balance across the speed range will be very important! Lots of other good suggestions are listed. Looks like a very cool project!

  • @Hamachingo
    @Hamachingo ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Pro tip: Heading Hold Gyro hooked up to the steering. Then it will kind of shift left and right a bit (like a lane change) but always stay parallel to the straight road.

  • @juanantoniomanriquegarcia3037
    @juanantoniomanriquegarcia3037 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    The car is epic! Maybe you can do a car/plane hybrid, in which you extend the wings at a certain speed? Then once at a certain speed, (maybe world record) extend wings and go airborne!

  • @theonlyari
    @theonlyari ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You may consider adding a control system to the steering to help prevent oscillations. Thats no easy task, but it might make it easier to take the car up to its full speed.

    • @ADRIAAN1007
      @ADRIAAN1007 ปีที่แล้ว

      most guys use a gyro from a rc helicopter for high speed stability

    • @808bigisland
      @808bigisland ปีที่แล้ว

      Steering damper. Simple, mechanical.

  • @bagatis1
    @bagatis1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great video mate. Just to add my 2Cents. It's common among rc racers to apply traction compound on foam tires. Need to use mini vacuum tub after application to improve the chemical absorbing into the foam. Though the compound smells nasty and there will be tire marks on the tarmac, traction is definitely improved.

  • @abboodeno
    @abboodeno ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the clean video with no bad words used, I can show this to my son with no issues.

  • @premkhachane6809
    @premkhachane6809 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hi, love your projects!

  • @joebates640
    @joebates640 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A longer car with a large floor for ground effects would make for a high downforce, low drag setup (where the only real drag is from the jet). It would be cool for you to integrate your findings from the earlier videos to create a more stable high speed car. Also a stability fin could be used behind the jet, so long as it is a material that won't melt

  • @byteme11
    @byteme11 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's a learning curve and that's how engineers develop their skills. You did well. Just don't stop learning and improving.

  • @atobee2595
    @atobee2595 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    10:48, How can such small tyres spin this fast?! This is just blasting my mind

  • @BenRyherd
    @BenRyherd ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think it'd be cool to make the car sort of Batmobile style, which is to mean build the car around the jet and make it so that even if you landed upside-down you're not smacking the turbine into the ground.

  • @rmdcade1717
    @rmdcade1717 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is what success looks like! I see in other replies that you're planning on adding a gyro-stabilized board, so I think your best bet is to change as little as possible beyond that. Things tend to go sideways quickly when you introduce a lot of modifications all at once :P

    • @nyscersul42
      @nyscersul42 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @SCHockeyGuy83
    @SCHockeyGuy83 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm all for option #1 definitely want to see just how fast it can top out at that was super fun to watch. Awesome stuff man!

    • @nyscersul42
      @nyscersul42 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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    • @SCHockeyGuy83
      @SCHockeyGuy83 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nyscersul42 Has already been reported as spam but thank you.

    • @nyscersul42
      @nyscersul42 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SCHockeyGuy83 just trying to help, have a good day!

    • @SCHockeyGuy83
      @SCHockeyGuy83 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nyscersul42 You as well.

  • @dandel351
    @dandel351 ปีที่แล้ว

    The jet car crashing in the grass was a real " Richard Hammond" moment right there. Good luck with the new car!🏎🏁

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  • @Thefrogbread
    @Thefrogbread ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Neat! Your videos are incredible and the amount of work you put in is absolutely INSANE.

    • @nyscersul42
      @nyscersul42 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @James.O
    @James.O ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great effort James and well done on achieving 100+mph. As a few have said already, a gyro may help keep you pointing in the right direction. Bad luck with the crash but remember, you don't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs. Keep going!

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  • @nitro8678
    @nitro8678 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a tip for you that might work for the parachute use a stiffer Spring to release the parachute that way you get more Bang from releasing it and it has more power to push it through subtract air. Not to mention longer strings so that way the parachute is further away far away from the RC car that way it can get into some fresh air to help slow it down

  • @HOVREDDY
    @HOVREDDY ปีที่แล้ว

    Body design is very reminiscent of 80’s and 90’s Lemans cars, like the Sauber Mercedes C9 or even Mazda
    787B. Very nicely done!

  • @inthenightandy4616
    @inthenightandy4616 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Wider wheel base could’ve help with high speed stability. Is it also possible that the downforce is too much and pushing down unevenly causing the sideways pitch?

    • @pickleman4220
      @pickleman4220 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      a longer wheel base would have a much better effect and produce way less drag

    • @boudewijnb
      @boudewijnb ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The width between the center of the left and right wheels is called trackwidth

  • @hotdogandahayride9823
    @hotdogandahayride9823 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That engine was perched up so high it was almost begging to be destroyed. The crash was unfortunate but probably the best case crash scenario. Like others have said, longer wheelbase, longer range radio, longer track and probably an elevated vantage point.

    • @MidnightMarrow
      @MidnightMarrow ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don't get the "longer range radio" thing people are talking about, what he has should easily go much further than what he's doing specially considering it an open paved road. I still have video albeit not the best at around 700-800 ft with my current antennas and the plain radio goes much further as it's not 5.8GHz. His radio is perfectly capable and I'd imagine considering even my little 15 dollar receiver goes quite a ways out he wouldn't have issues for awhile unless perhaps he doesn't have much of an antenna on the receiver which is literally pennies to change.

  • @PaulMacklinAmazing
    @PaulMacklinAmazing ปีที่แล้ว +2

    amazing video, best yet IMHO. so many good suggestions below that mirror the things I would have said (longer wheel base, more control sensitivity, pilot chute etc.), looking forward to v2 and seeing you cracking the 205 mph!!! threshold

  • @aajs669
    @aajs669 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Absolutely fantastic!!! Well done mate. That Mini is 🔥🙌 too.

  • @sajilvohra1157
    @sajilvohra1157 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Possibly, you could use acelerometer/gyros on both the ends (two for redundancy and precision) to determine the oscillations the car is experiencing and then put a simple pid controller to steer, dampening the oscillations.. Also you may use a digital compass to check if the car is going in a straight line.

  • @operatorflix6339
    @operatorflix6339 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Make sure to heat up your tires before going for a top speed, that will help a lot with keeping stability.

    • @swiftydrifty2726
      @swiftydrifty2726 ปีที่แล้ว

      If he does a burn out it would chunk the tires since they are foam. Rc tires are generally made of neoprene as well which hardens when heated and would have the opposite effect.

  • @Phoji
    @Phoji ปีที่แล้ว +2

    outstanding! the fact that you can make a small car go faster than local trains is impressive! well done im subscribing

  • @fancyultrafresh3264
    @fancyultrafresh3264 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you TH-cam recommends, this is awesome.

  • @abeston8025
    @abeston8025 ปีที่แล้ว +135

    Wow you hit 100mph with relative ease, it looks like you have the power, now the challenge is stability and performance!
    A couple of things to consider, that hopefully won't add too much weight or complexity:
    The body shell might be too flexible at high speeds with all that down force and that might be another reason why you are rubbing the foam off your wheels. Rather than adjust ride height to compensate (and the problems that come with it) maybe add posts by the wheels to prop up the body shell?
    Also the wobble you got in the last run could have been exaggerated by all the fuel in that bottle sloshing around. You could first do a check and only put enough fuel in to complete your runs (eliminating a lot of dead weight in the process) then get a fuel container just big enough to hold that amount. And/or if you really wanted to get ambitious you can add baffles to the fuel bottle to reduce the sloshing effect.
    Once you get your car all dialed in 200 Kph should be your next target!

    • @halogeek6
      @halogeek6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This is why you read the whole damn comment. Was sitting there thinking the whole time "just add baffles to the tank you idiot!" All the while you bring up that fix after addressing the problems that came with it. So no one's an idiot. I'm just cynical and convinced (usually correctly so) that everyone in the world is uniformly a moron.

    • @limbeboy7
      @limbeboy7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@halogeek6 I still think the weight reduction in a smaller fuel tank is a better idea. Also his steering needs some work

    • @codykessel8353
      @codykessel8353 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@halogeek6 This was a really refreshing comment to read, I hope you have a great day

    • @amazin7006
      @amazin7006 ปีที่แล้ว

      Weight isn't a big deal in top speed, he could get more power to overcome weight just by using afterburners or a higher quality engine. A stiffer chassis will make a big difference though, along with even better tires to overcome tramlining, and a longer wheelbase. The wire on the side of the engine could also be causing a very unbalanced disruption of airflow. Fins could be better angled to help with stability like fighter jets have or the Koenigsegg Jesko absolute.

  • @gafrers
    @gafrers ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I love how the body look like a Group C racecar. would be great to a 2.0 version of this car/project
    Wouldn't FPV help with control?

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  • @dan725
    @dan725 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I.. friggin.. LOVE.. your Mini! Beautiful!

  • @luisgarosa
    @luisgarosa ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good stuff! Would love to see a new and improved versio beeting real cars! My 2 cents if you want them... If it bumps with chassis, cut chassis before releasing suspension tension so that it stays firm enough.. do the top of the car with aerodynamics that help feed the jet a bit better and keep the front of the car stable... larger wheels with a still low CG? Whatever you do.. happy to watch! Good luck! :)

  • @TakedownBard
    @TakedownBard ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It seems that the more you increased the suspension, the more wobbly and unreliable the car became, which makes perfect sense as theres more air getting under the car then which can cause issues and im somewhat surprised it didnt flip completely. I would suggest redesigning the body to better accommodate the wheels and being more careful when adjusting the suspension in the future. Another easy suggestion to further decrease the chances of totaling the car due to air getting underneath would be putting a plastic plate under the car that meets up with the rest of the body, allowing air to more easily flow under

    • @realp1nball
      @realp1nball ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Another thing is the foam tyres won't give you grip and won't stick to the surface. If he had rubber tyres it wouldn't get the wheelspin off the start. (Wheelspin is the tyres not having enough grip as the throttle is being pressed too hard, this is normal in high-speed cars

  • @dr_jaymz
    @dr_jaymz ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The car proved itself - any driver might have actually walked away from that, so stick with that. I think the car is ok but I don't think it will be humanly controllable. I wondered if you start to lose control authority at high speeds so I think you may need a rudder to work with the steering. Next - could you use a heading hold gyro? That would then mean the car will *always* point exactly down the track provided there is enough control authority to do so even if you get a gust of wind or an uneven surface which I think is what you need. You might say its cheating but I don't really think it is and those gas turbines are expensive - so be it.
    Finally the turbine will not like not being able to run down without cooling and that dent on the thrust tube indicates a large force which given its huge gyroscopic effect may cause one of the turbines to contact the casing. Doesn't matter how minor it'll need checking, it might well seem ok to turn by hand but obviously at full temp you might get an engine rich exhaust plume.

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  • @Dindonmasker
    @Dindonmasker ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that was really cool! I personally really like your projects pretty much whatever you make. so go for what you want. breaking a speed record would be pretty cool tho.

  • @DiscoLucas
    @DiscoLucas ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If you redesign the car you should definitely add some heave shocks (also known as third spring). It can be a bit complex to build, but they are only pressed when right and left side suspension is being pressed, therefor making the car stiffer to being pushed down by higher speeds

  • @faragar1791
    @faragar1791 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    You shouldn't have painted the windows of the car body shell, you could have put a camera inside the car that could look through the window.

  • @jakedevries1455
    @jakedevries1455 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I know you do some crazy projects but when I subbed I never thought they'd be this crazy/cool!
    Love your videos man: oooo and number 2 please 😁😉

    • @tonywright8294
      @tonywright8294 ปีที่แล้ว

      What Is crazy about it ?

    • @jakedevries1455
      @jakedevries1455 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tonywright8294 if you need to ask that question then you need to watch more of his videos.... They're great and "crazy"

    • @YouTube_username.
      @YouTube_username. ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tonywright8294 Jet engines usually go in a fucking jet.

  • @superbmediacontentcreator
    @superbmediacontentcreator ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When working for Vector... we called the dead zone "the burble" and the trick was to launch the drogue chute in weird directions just so it would be grabbed by clean air... so perhaps you can launch a drogue chute sideways or up into the airstream and that will pull out the main chute...

  • @loganwhite8561
    @loganwhite8561 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:36 that wavy sound is the frequency of sound produced by the jet engine🔥holy shit

  • @hafezmousavi9043
    @hafezmousavi9043 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    To avoid future crashes like this, isn't it possible to use some sort of controlling system to cancel the rattling? Like using a PID controller?

  • @gt1man931
    @gt1man931 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As cool as this is any 1/8 electric platform can hit 100 mph with very little work.
    It is a very good looking build, and it should be capable of much more, but you'll have to do a lot better streamlining around that engine, it will be important as that buffeting leading to oscillations happens easier at those speeds.
    Maybe rebuild to more land speed streamliner type proportions, it would be more stable.

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  • @coldh4nd
    @coldh4nd ปีที่แล้ว

    A solid 2 from me. Great work with mark 1, I recon you already know a few changes you would have liked to make on mark 2. Go for it!

  • @idkbro1429
    @idkbro1429 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your videos are legit the most entertaining hobby videos at this point most other channels focus more on quantity than qaulity but you do the opposite thats why theyre so entertaining

  • @Loci333
    @Loci333 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Deffinatly continue with this and an fpv system would help with the occalations control, a nice simple side project might be to do an experiment with a simple chassis and some solid fuel rocket engines (your videos are always awesome when they are involved) also it's useful for extra data for the future to see if you could ultimately use both types of propulsion together 😉 whatever you do looking forward to the next video and glad the turbine survived :) (you may also find running it on diesel cheaper than your current fuel)

    • @greengoblin876
      @greengoblin876 ปีที่แล้ว

      Definitely...

    • @Aditya-wg3lp
      @Aditya-wg3lp ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Literally just commented about an fpv system lol

  • @leokimvideo
    @leokimvideo ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Something this fast and fun would be instantly banned in Australia. The crash was incredibly realistic, once a death wobble sets up only the gates of hell are open

  • @stephantranquille6681
    @stephantranquille6681 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was AWESOME!!!!
    I would love to see you break the 200kmh barrier with the same car!

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  • @Simba-Gaming
    @Simba-Gaming ปีที่แล้ว

    That was so sick! I hope you rebuild as i am interested to know just how fast your jet car can go. Good luck! 🤞

    • @user-pv3oe7yz6y
      @user-pv3oe7yz6y ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @chairpara
    @chairpara ปีที่แล้ว +3

    9:34 you could add some metal rods inside, near the tires so that when the suspension gets too low (enough to hit the tires) the rods will stop it (at a certain height = the rods’ length)

    • @burmanatorx7725
      @burmanatorx7725 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That would lock out the suspension so if it hit a bump at that speed it would loose controll

    • @chairpara
      @chairpara ปีที่แล้ว

      @@burmanatorx7725 yeah but at least better than blowing up the tires

    • @burmanatorx7725
      @burmanatorx7725 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chairpara you are actually supposed to turn down the foam tyres with a tyre lathe so they clear the body of the car and don't rub. The foam tyres also don't tend to expload if they rub on the body it would just rub away the foam and create excess friction preventing you from hitting high speeds.

  • @sandipsingh5262
    @sandipsingh5262 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Was really looking forward to this project and I wasn't disappointed! Unfortunate that the cat left the track; but I'm sure you'll bounce back from this.

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  • @TheRnbf
    @TheRnbf ปีที่แล้ว

    Get a rc set up station for the car so you can accurately change the ride height, set up camber, caster, toe in/out etc for better stability in a straight line

  • @-phantom.7746
    @-phantom.7746 ปีที่แล้ว

    That jet sound is amazing.🤩

  • @ouzoloves
    @ouzoloves ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I think you should build a new car taking into account what you have learned, ie: parachute release, wheel rubbing, longer wheelbase etc

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  • @limbeboy7
    @limbeboy7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Imo, the same laws of physics apply to this car. The faster you go the more drag and weight becomes an issue so do this:
    - Like another commenter said reduce your fuel tank to just enough size to complete the length of track.
    - the fastest jet land cars and planes all have enclosed engines for better aero. So enclose the engine.
    - enclosing the engine will also make your aero work better and help with the death wobble.
    - daily down your steering so it is less twitchy at high speeds

  • @zyxzevn
    @zyxzevn ปีที่แล้ว

    Vacuum the car onto the floor, using the turbine. It is now illegal in formula-1, but worked very well.
    Use a filter to prevent sucking in dirt.
    The engine can be lower, too because it is sucking the air form underneath.
    That way you may also increase the height of the car without losing much stability.

  • @raytron1138
    @raytron1138 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well that’s the best thing about RC no one gets hurt. Drive on man!

  • @simonl7784
    @simonl7784 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Congrats on 100mph++ on your first prototype, that's impressive! First thing I thought when I saw your engine mounting: CG is too high: Turbulent air entering your engine is NOT what will limit your speed; rolling over is what will make this fail... If I may suggest: given the OP powerplant you have, make lower CG your first priority and perhaps add a rate gyro for your steering

    • @simonl7784
      @simonl7784 ปีที่แล้ว

      rate gyros: Futaba g190 HPI D-box Turnigy 3 axis flight stabiliser, or any flight controller can be configured for this (ardupilot rover)

  • @premkhachane6809
    @premkhachane6809 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How did you get so successful? I also make projects but don't have enough funding for it so thinking of starting youtube. Any tips?

  • @JCtheMusicMan_
    @JCtheMusicMan_ ปีที่แล้ว

    Building anything with a jet engine is definitely worth watching 😁💜

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  • @ihateracin
    @ihateracin ปีที่แล้ว

    Fine steering input control is a must! Major adjustments at speed are insanity, and even if you went to correct it seeing it drift right, at 118 you might as well have sent it veering off to the left at the wall! I think maybe if you continue attempting this, a setup with a little panel containing throttle brakes parachute and a wheel for you to more accurately adjust the steering. FPV is another idea, those fins would make a great place to implement an antenna system

  • @peanutbutterpancake1703
    @peanutbutterpancake1703 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really wanna know how fast that thing can go at full throttle on a longer runway, could prob exceed 160 mph

    • @jonnym4670
      @jonnym4670 ปีที่แล้ว

      i think he needs an afterburner

  • @Mireaze
    @Mireaze ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If you want to try make a custom body shell, I know an automotive design student who might be interested (me)

  • @JazzbLu
    @JazzbLu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You gave us 2 options for a future car. Have you heard of the McMurtry Spéirling car? You should try to use a similar design for your jet car! Also get a real time camera feed to your controller so that hopefully you can help prevent future crashes.

  • @MX304
    @MX304 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you keep having stability issues, you may need to move the engine forward. You need the thrust face of the engine, in your case the rear most compressor blade, to be ahead of the rear "axle". In full scale jet dragsters we aim to have the thrust face about 1 meter in front of the rear "axle" line. You will also want a smaller parachute on a much longer lanyard. Like 4-5 times as long.

  • @trichardson8222
    @trichardson8222 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the video. Just fantastic. If it's a big time savings, I say keep the original but try using a drone from above that's lined up with the track to be able to see and adjust more easily. Without changing the chassis, I don't know if you can do a lot, so I'd stick with it and see how fast it can go!

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  • @TheAcidheat
    @TheAcidheat ปีที่แล้ว

    very nice project love rc stuff and jet engine 😉👍🇱🇹❤️

  • @MaNNeRz91
    @MaNNeRz91 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The bodyshell saved that car wrecking completely. You see the air catch it and act like a wind brake. The mounts snapping definitely saved that spooly boy... you could hear it whining down just fine as it tumbled which is pretty amazing

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    • @MaNNeRz91
      @MaNNeRz91 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nyscersul42 no way man it's legit I just got a new car from that guy

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      @nyscersul42 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MaNNeRz91 did you really?

    • @MaNNeRz91
      @MaNNeRz91 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nyscersul42 👀 nope

  • @jeremycrochtiere6317
    @jeremycrochtiere6317 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wicked Build and Awesome Design

  • @dvvh4739
    @dvvh4739 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic video, mate. Here’s an out of the box idea for steering control: put a laser light source at the end of the run and use PID loop to keep it between binocular receptors on the vehicle. Good luck!

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  • @Omega_o7
    @Omega_o7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think it would be helpful for you to mount a FPV Drone camera on the car so you can control it easier.

  • @jaknowwho
    @jaknowwho ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! I'd to see you break the record! Next project idea: world's fastest RC hover craft? Idk just tossing it out there. I'm not sure what all challenges it would bring, but I'm sure you could figure them out!

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  • @aqualung2000
    @aqualung2000 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude. My man. At those speeds, with that wheel base, you absolutely positively need computer-aided steering. You need something that can make 1,000 corrections per second to keep you going in a straight line or else the same thing is going to happen again.
    Now, granted such a system would be a massive project all on its own. But I think it's either that or come up with some sort of ingenious system where the car auto-balances itself to a straight line when lacking any other input. Both very tough, but IMHO definitely needed!

  • @zer001
    @zer001 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, awesome work! The crash is sad.

  • @nicolasgoubin
    @nicolasgoubin ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi ! Congrats for your rc model, it is working pretty well ! For the parachute, how about putting it a bit more in the back (same height so that your tyres stay on track but the parachute is launched from a greater distance behind the car), this way you may beneficiate a deceleration from the flow coming from the top of the car without being in the vortex zone ?
    Have you considered testing it on a bench to see how fast it can go at maximum throttle ?

  • @f1matt
    @f1matt ปีที่แล้ว

    Super cool project. Wonder if adding some LED's to make the vehicle more visible would be a good idea?

  • @adamtankersley7441
    @adamtankersley7441 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think a new iteration of the same car would be awesome. Great build and video btw

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      @@nyscersul42 yeah, I seem to get that telegram bot thing on about 1/2 the comments I post. I’ve even heard some of the channel owners complaining about it. Not sure what is making that particular bot so hard to kill?

  • @andrewx8888
    @andrewx8888 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perhaps add a lightweight camera to the front from a FPV drone, so that you can steer better at long distances?
    Also, If it is within budget, you can consider replacing the PLA frame to a Layered Carbon fiber frame, found on FPV racing drones. Better stability and likely a lighter overall package.

  • @alex2frbnks
    @alex2frbnks ปีที่แล้ว

    What you could do is stand behind the car as you launch so you have the best vantage point to correct it's steering. You could also use a pair of binoculars or a scope of some sort mounted to a tripod so after you took off you can have a better sight for steering. Also since it'll be so far down the track at this point you could lay down a line of powder paint at the point where you need to brake so when the car goes over it, it'll kick up a plume giving you the signal to apply brakes.

  • @BitKing_Ross
    @BitKing_Ross ปีที่แล้ว

    I think along with others helpful suggestions, going FPV with a camera on the car would help for seeing its perspective in real time. Maybe allowing you to accelerate more smoothly and avoid those wobbles.

  • @cormacmolyneaux6021
    @cormacmolyneaux6021 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Id love to see what the chassis and engine is capable of with a more refined top speed focused body!

  • @VeggiePower303
    @VeggiePower303 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should use an vertical stabilizer attached to the front steering mechanism. like an couple of airplane tails to augment air steering and not have to rely on the rough asphalt surface so much.

  • @samiserio5983
    @samiserio5983 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love all of your cars and planes😊

  • @Bellringercameron
    @Bellringercameron ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice Mini it’s one of my fav cars

  • @michaeldillon9080
    @michaeldillon9080 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very cool video … love the classic Mini

  • @mikefleek9259
    @mikefleek9259 ปีที่แล้ว

    setin speed sensitive steering, use light foam to brace body. Anything near 90 is real squirrelly to drive. Thrust is different than wheel torque like a driveshaft car has. They will fly well too, drag, thrust, IMO you have to factor aero and car stuff in as well. Great effort !!!.

  • @Mr_Flybacker
    @Mr_Flybacker ปีที่แล้ว

    No FPV? You REALY crazy! In this speed FPV is STRONGLY recommend

  • @kbetripen4497
    @kbetripen4497 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The crash was epic ngl 😂

  • @chadrobke9676
    @chadrobke9676 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey guy,
    I just want to let you know, if you are going to wear a harness while driving, you are going to need a harness bar. If the attachment point for the shoulder straps is too low, it could seriously hurt you, or kill you.
    That being said, I do want to complement you on your videos! You are extremely talented!