Abyssalite (for pipes and tiles) has since been removed in the latest space industry update. The next best insulator early game is an insulated tile made out of igneous rock. If you don't have any yet you can use sandstone or granite but those aren't as good. Later on you get ceramic which is better and late game you get a perfect insulator like the old abyssalite but it requires ingredients from other asteroids (ie rocket trips).
Yeah I made the mistake of using older guides like this (although they are still great) and only found out around cycle 150 that I'm never going to get to use Abyssalite for insulation. Heat has been a major problem for me but I've now got a design happening although it nearly cost all my dubs more than they could give. I had to build a system of insulated pipes from a geyser into an ice biome, via an anti entropy thermo nullifier using radiating pipes limited to 2000mL then through more of the ice biome before finally arriving home at a nice 5-20 degrees depending on how angry the geyser was feeling. Also, with the bathrooms build your waste pipes out to the side, it's less pieces of pipe and hence less decor issues.
@@TheTruePhoenixAU ikr! everything is old useless guides ! i was about to send my people digging well into another bio area potetionally making me restart over.. becase i've restarted so many times because of old guides !
@@TheTruePhoenixAU this game is highly addictive for people just getting into the game. learning new stuff every day taking on new challenges. i love this game.
Clear, understandable, informative and not annoying, everything I look for in a beginner guide. Half the fun of these great games is finding decent tutorials like this one. Love the infinite toilet.
What a great tutorial series! I had no idea there was such complexity underneath that simple looking exterior of a game, and you really helped make it manageable for me. Thanks :)
This video in the series was great for me, I was trying to figure out the sinks and lavatories and was getting the piping all wrong. Awesome to see an infinite bathroom because I was also worried about the water usage. Thanks!!
I started playing knowing not much about the game failed a few times, I am now sat watching through your tutorial guides until I feel more confident! I am loving your guides and feel like I missed so many things right from the beginning haha😃
even now with obvious game changes- just having picked this game up and stumbled miraculously through 50ish days on my own, plumbing made easy is just what i needed lol. ty!
Every day I watch a new episode so I can learn more. Loving the infinite water loop. I don't want to go to work tomorrow I just want to stay inside and play games all day.
Solid video series - really helps explaining some of the "frustrations" you face as a newbie to ONI. I concur with the guy mentioning that turning on the debug mode didn't feel good watching the videos. I prefer much more you just telling the viewer that you'll be skipping ahead, letting your dupes do the work off-screen :)
I knew about the infinite bathroom.... but I never thought to use it to WATER THE PLANTSSSS. This is amazing!!!! Also, this is where i've lost all control in the 4 games I've started so far. I make the coal generators, muck about until i apparently run out of coal, and it all comes to a complete stop. Also, apparently don't care enough about decor. Onto the next!
I'm new to the game and as fun as it seemed, I was just so lost at first and just felt all the wasted time mucking around blindly. These tutorials have been soooooooooo helpful. You explain it well and sound pleasant. Thanks!
Thank you for pointing out auto bottling! I was digging out special spots to get the water to thin out enough for the dupes to manually mop it up and carry it to the water lock!
I'm new to this game and didnt understand shit about it at the first sight. But you have a perfect pace, explains everything very well, now i'm being able to enjoy the game. Cheers!
Thx. Very detailed. Now I have to restart everything again. I restarted after each episode I watched. I’d better watch all of ur videos before I restart again /:
I picked this game up in a steam sale about a month ago, and it’s really good! I couldn’t survive more than 10 days, but watching your videos have definitely helped me and I’m now on cycle 70! Great videos!
my flowers say it polluted water... did they fixed this? or i have to put the pipes exatly the same way you did? Couse i just put a single line trought all the plants with no hairbrush style
Hey man. Thank you so much for your guides. I've learned so much. I never knew you could disinfect food by placing it into chlorine, definitely going to use this !
Great explanation. Just caught the ONI bug and haven't been able to put it down. Thanks for pointing out the mention of germs in the water. Need to keep an eye out for that in my base next time I load it up.
I wish I saw this video when I started playing ONI last year. Damn search string results!!! Took me a while to understand the mechanics of the sieve (output temp, pipe priority etc) after multiple trial and errors and other tutorials. This vid is filled with tiny details that would just creep up on your colony after multiple cycles. I used to wonder why my dupes kept saying it’s hot in the bathrooms hahaha. Oh well! At least I got to watch almost all of your ONI gameplays before seeing this vid on recommendations 😂😂😂
@@GrindThisGame hmm, what happened to this promise!? Just kidding, I understand making such a series takes time. Greatly appreciate your content on ONI, really helps getting beginners like me up and running, thanks!
I prefer to send my overflow dirty water from the bathrooms directly into pincha pepper plants. They need the extra heat and you can grow 4-6 plants just on your bathroom water and a bit of phosphorite
A good note to make is that the debuf doesn't happen when a Dupe is in an exosuit. Also, use crude oil if you are in the oil biome, if you are using magma to flash oil to gas and petrol the water will turn to steam.
Great tutorials, I was getting stuck when I researched plumbing but now I get it! I wouldn't do the airlock trick though because it seems cheaty to me as a new player but it's still handy to no, cheers!
Thanks so much for the plumbing demo. It's confusing AF for new players. My first impression was "Why even include input and outputs for plumbing in a game?" This episode shows some choices and tradeoffs that answer that question. Well done!
Usually, it has something to do with insulation or overheating. For example, if you want to cool your base by building a few pipes and running cool water through them, you will need to make them out of a material with high thermal conductivity. Or if you're building pump in a place that can heat up to like 300 degrees, you'll need to make it out of something that can withstand this temperature
Thank you for this great tutorial! I was kinda stuck at this point in the game, didn't know what I could do with my dirty or polluted water, and I really started to struggle with excess CO2.
your tutorial line went from the basic stuff to the advanced stuff. I'm missing a lot of steps in between. Like tips&tricks for ranching, other food production, etc. I'm also wondering about the 'clean water' with the germs. The duplicants use it to clean their hands. Won't that affect their immune systems?
I tried to keep things basic but I do have these guides planned for the future: - ranching - morale - germs - food guide - oil/plastic Germy water can be used in sinks and it doesn't make the dupes dirty. It makes no sense but has worked for a very long time. Might get fixed someday. Now that it is easier to kill germs in water they might fix it.
@@GrindThisGame you know how it is today, is it fixed?? I just had the SAME idea for the infinity bathroom lol and was thinking if I should connect the sinks or not...
Thank you so much man! I'm sure you've gone over it before, but I would love to see you go over the ranching in this game, and maybe a small guide or section of this series dedicated to getting components for the generators (mainly coal). One thing I keep running into a bottleneck for early game is power. Getting coal can be a pain, and the only way I see doing it long term (generally speaking) is via ranching. Again, thanks for these awesome videos :) Will keep on watching while I'm playing this game for my first few days worth haha
You're welcome Robbie. I'll do a ranching guide for sure. It was on my list. There is a LOT of coal out on the map but hatch ranches are they way to go for renewable coal. Vertical ranchers are better since the tending to hatches goes faster. Natural gas power is pretty good and you'll eventually find 1 or more natural gas geysers. If used with smart batteries and some automation on consumers your power will go a long way. If you don't mind spoilers there are other ways to get power (Below) Ways to get power: - coal generators (hatches will eat materials to make more coal, you can set them up in a ranch) - natural gas generators (later you'll find 1 or more natural gas geysers) - petroleum generator (there is a LOT of oil at the bottom of the map which can be turned into petroleum...or more complexly into natural gas) - solar power (not very good but shine bugs can be the light for some solar power) - steam power (not easy to set up) - hydrogen becomes renewable from steam geysers where you turn the water into oxygen and hydrogen - manual generators :)
Instead of a liquid lock, how about, like, a sideways S-shaped hallway that uses the weight of the gasses to keep themselves in place? So, the dupes can climb up and down through it, but the oxygen gets tile-blocked up top and the chlorine gets tile-blocked below it. Can you picture what I mean?
Thank you for this guide! I think I'm ready to upgrade my toilet situation and yesterday I tried it and totally screwed up all of my clean water. I'm hoping I can get it right now :) My only suggestion of something to add for newbies like me, is when would you suggest people do this? As soon as they have the tech researched? When they have a certain number of dupes? I'm having a hard time figuring out a good order to improve things. (Sorry if this is in another video! I just found your channel and this game. Love both and subbed. Keep up the great guides!!)
To those of you watching this after May 2019...you no longer need the liquid lock tactic for the game. Just install the "Working airlock doors" mod from the workshop. They completely 2000% separate pressure and any gasses on each side of the door. Some may think it's kind of cheaty using it but it's called an airlock after all . :)
thing missing here is that if you mess too much with your infinite bathroom, that plumbing can get stuck. And of course abyssalite is not as easy to get anymore, unless you want to stress your dupes out collecting it.
Once I set up the bathroom loop I find it just runs forever without ever getting stuck. Abyssalite is pretty easy to collect. How does that stress dupes out anymore than collecting any material?
How do I get my duplicants to empty dirty water? I got a bottle emptier over a septic tank I made but they refuse to empty the dirty bottles. Keeps saying, "Schedule doesn't allow it." Even though they're working most of the day... Is there a bug? Do I gotta click'em and tell each one, "Yes you may touch the bottles."?
I wish they would make a sump pump, one where the pump can be anywhere and a hose for intake and one for output means the water source can be far away, but just add more pipe...
Looks like you buried that poor drecko! I usually run pipe to where I am making a water lock with the outlet on the bottom tile. It goes overpressure just as it makes a seal. I've also been putting suits before the water lock so they don't get a debuff and can be in that place longer. Unless they changed it that sieve output is at 40c. It won't work for plants. Cooling down an area full of 40c water takes so much energy.
You put a little trap for beginners there :) Every toilet produce 5,7kg of excess water in "infinite toilet loop" and one Blossom consumes 20kg of water per cycle, so 3 toilet's will feed only one plant per cycle. There is also another good way to use cleaned water with germs - Refinery, it will warm the water to the temperature when germs start dying really fast and also allow you to not use "Clean cold water" from main water storage.
If I remember correctly, it is a bad idea to use germy water for the wash basins. They should always be fed with fresh water, right? (Using the excess water for food is always fine, just have to be extremely careful when deconstructing filled pipes, as the water may spread germs when spilled on the floor.)
It's 100% fine, I use self-sustaining bathrooms\wash basins since "Jobs" upgrade and they working fine. If you have Plummber specialization you can "empty" them without spilling any drops of water.
@@JamesBucket since 39.9 is still less than 40 you will halt plant growth a little, my solution is find one seed of Thimble Reed(can be found is swamp biome) and send all excess polluted water there without clearing. It will grow slowly, but provide you source of fiber for suits, if you REALLY short on clean water - blossom way is better.
So important question newbi here so what if i use the clean water with germs to make mush bars then fry them using the electric grill then puting it in the refrigerator or chlorine gas will the food be safe to eat?
Hmmm I can't get the liquid pipe bridge to connect directly to the sieve, and the page for self-sustaining barhrooms on gamepedia says that the brdige/vent priority doesn't work as of the Occupational Update??
Hey GtG, quick question. So I'm not using the auto-build function, and I'm having difficulties getting my dupes to man up and hold their breath. Their sanity skyrockets to 50%< so I have to give them a day off for massages every other cycle to de-stress. I had one duplicant die in the CO2 pit while trying to dig air pockets. Any advice on how to get their keisters in gear?
The early game way is to supply oxygen to your dig tunnels an algae deoxidizer + maybe coal or dupe power in a small sealed room so they can catch their breath while away from the base. Longer term atmosuits/exosuits are the way to go. The dupes walk very slowly in them unless they have training. You'll need refined copper and thimblereeds to build them I think. In episode 6 of this guide I show how to set them up.
As for sanity, you can build some paintings or statues along the way to help keep the decor up while they travel. Later on you can make snazzy suits which can help as well.
So I build the same system with carbon skimmer, but it is not pumping. It starts with good speed but in a few seconds pumping gets very slow. I tried to replace pipes, enable/disable skimmer and even rebuild the whole system. But always got the same results. Can anyone help please?
Are you trying to do the infinite loop thing with a sieve? Take a bit of water out as it might be blocked or add a liquid tank that doesn't completely fill up. Also it won't work as fast if it has low carbon dioxide.
Was with you up until this episode. I learned some stuff here, but if you'd built the stuff in this video legit it would have taken like 15 days, which means this build isn't really possible in-game. Thanks for the hard work though, I've learned a lot up until now and it's greatly appreciated!
@@GrindThisGame Awesome, thanks! Keep up the good work, by the way. As others have said, your channel deserves to be much larger. I've no doubt it will be before long.
Damn this is good stuff, thanks man. One question, is there any way to create some sort of pressurized path, to prevent leak of gases 100% (like the liquid one) but without the liquid? to avoid the negatives of this lock, maybe a more advanced tec?, or using the liquid lock is the only 100% safe method to prevent ur green gas to escape. Thanks !
It's the only 100% safe airlock I've seen. You can create a room between two airlocks which sucks out all the air between uses and filters the correct gasses where they should go. Much more energy intensive and might still have a risk but I've never actually built one. If you dig in from the top of something like a chlorine room and you have high pressure oxygen above it, there is little chance the chlorine will rise out.
Is there a way to clean the clean water with germs i really want to not worry about losing water.I already have a decent amount of food and a crap ton of oxygen using the electrothingies (i forgot what thay are called) and all of my algae
You can put it in a liquid reservoir that is in a room with chlorine gas. All the germs will die. At least it worked with gas... otherwise if you let clean water with germs sit...the germs will die off...takes time though. I usually use germ water for plants.
ok thanks so much ok last question (for now) Whats the suitable amount of dups cause i think im screwed im on cycle 56 i do have really good oxygen and food but i have 9 dups they do have decent stats and most of my dups jobs are almost max
Thought of something, that might be cool to add to the game. Mutations? Endgame stuff. A new gas, highly dangerous and volatile. But if its refined/worked it can be used into higher science to alter genetics. Like pills for extra bonuses. But it always comes with a negative. Mutations could work aswell if small doses worked into the breathed air and breathed throughout many cýcles. using all this would put high distress on your dupes. But if you can manage it'll be very worth it.
Even tough i’ve been playing this game for a while and i understand the basics, this tutorial has great tips. I just have one question, is it not a problem that they are washing their hands with germ water? 0.o they wont get germs from that? This is why i couldnt really do an infinite bathroom since the germ update, because i tought i had to get rid of the germs for that..
how do you even dig without even require the dub to dig? I just saw that you jus select that part and it become empty imediately. Could you please share me how do you do so?
huh... i always found using water distiller as an waste of sand usage, usually i used to heat polluted water into steam and cool it back into clean water, don't know if it still works though xD
insulated igneous rock or sedimentary rock work fairly well, later on ceramic works better and way later insulation (which is like abyssalite) works best but comes from space.
Hello, your tutorials have been extremely helpful thus far. On my main world I tried to make a giant water resevoir with a liquid tepidzer in it so I can use it for practically any water purpose and I failed, and I managed to lose my food supply and died. Do you have any tips on getting all the water together? I also wanted to ask you about a base design. I made it so that there is one ladder in the middle and 4 tile rooms on each side of the ladder and I was starting to think it wasnt really effective... Do you have any ideas? The farthest I have ever gotten was managing to get to a place with chlorine.
A fairly recent base building series also goes into a lot of detail: th-cam.com/video/tj5d1VUnal4/w-d-xo.html But this one is my current one on a slightly harder world: th-cam.com/video/S1tabFfU4JM/w-d-xo.html I use liquid reservoirs to store water because they are naturally insulated a bit. You also make an insulated tank out of insulated tiles. My base floors are usually 4 high and 16 wide (for 64 tile bedrooms, bathrooms etc) and 4x24 for critter ranches. I usually put 1 ladder and 1 firepole between each 16 wide floor (see videos). Check out liquid locks before you break open chlorine pockets.
@@GrindThisGame Alright thanks, been really helpful. Just one more question. I tried to have a farm near the bottom left of my base but natural gas somehow makes its way in there and stops me from growing anything, and I dont even know how its coming. I tried using a natural gas generator to get rid of it but it keeps coming back. Got any ideas?
Tried to do the infinite water lavatory thing earlier to get oxygen after algae ran out using electrolyzers. Plumbing broke, and flooded my oxygen generator room. It has already destroyed a generator and rendered a super-computer useless, and my upper levels flooded with hydrogen, almost all of my remaining oxygen has slime lung, and my carbon dioxide pits are full, so they have been airlocked off. I am still on turn 45, and 7 colonists have died already, so I just have a bunch of corpses lying around. Also, the food generator got flooded, so all the time is spent mopping and not producing food, which has caused several starvation-related deaths. Everyone's stress hit 100% despite all of the art, probably due to the corpses and piss. Anyone have any idea how to fix it?
Are these "infinite" loops still working in the newest update? And are they considered as exploits? And the word infinite isn't correct right? cause you'll run out of sand for the sieve eventually
As soon as I build my liquid lock and put my food box into the gas, the stress level just cranks up. I even build a second recreation room but they about to hit 100% in like 3 days after getting the lock in :/
@@GrindThisGame Looks like two are especially problematic. morale:4/12 on one, 3/12 on the other. The other duplicants sitting around 30 to 40 stress. Not sure where I can see expectations. I also have no fiber for canvas yet so I was flooding their places with sculpture blocks instead. And roomwise I have a mess hall, two massage rooms and barracks as well as a latrine.
@@GrindThisGame Also they don't seem to be able to catch their food in time now. I have 27k food stord but they get "starvation" every now and then and are just standing in our outside the liquid lock
sorry, you say debug mode. Is this accessible ? I envy being able to move things around and destroying a chosen item, instead of every thing on that tile. I'm still a newb though, so be gentle.I don't know what i don't know.
I think I was using debug to build things quickly. If you destroy a floor the building on the floor will stay there but stop working. Any materials on the floor will fall down though. Sandbox mode is much easier to use for just messing about and building things quickly. Debug mode is a bit less user friendly. Buildings things is fairly quick just playing normally though. If you destroy buildings you get the materials back.
It's very difficult because high pressures from a different gas will like push away your carbon dioxide, opening up the airlock. If pressure gets too low the carbon dioxide will flow out of your airlock, opening it up as well. Liquids have the big advantage that they are not really moved by gasses.
If you do infinite water bathroom plus infinite co2 ( dont remember what its name) its more efficient in a loop. After that i figured out water is the key to sucess. Because the grims isnt that imporatant after all, thanks Man ;))
Great video but just so people know the infinite bathroom shown here no longer works. It appears that the germ level will build up in the water and slightly exceed the level that the sinks clean in one go but not enough that the dups think they need to use a second sink. So they start to wander around infecting the base, I ended up feeding the output of the sieve into a chamber filled with chlorine gas using three liquid storage devices in series with the output of that dumping into its own reservoir. Too paranoid to just dump it into the main one. I like the change because it doesn't make sense to wash your hands with germy water and get clean.
@@GrindThisGame That's great and all but in a tutorial video on how to build a base, I would expect to see how to actually build something working around the duplicant's 4 tile range for building. You building a structure in the middle of a room in cheat mode doesnt show me how to build the structure, does it? No, it just shows me what it should look like after it's finished. I'm sure there's a super easy way to do it but I only got the game two days ago so I need all the help I can get.
Are you aware that there might be a volcano of some kind under where you build the wall to contain the slime you released by accident? It's below where you built the carbon skimmer.
Abyssalite (for pipes and tiles) has since been removed in the latest space industry update. The next best insulator early game is an insulated tile made out of igneous rock. If you don't have any yet you can use sandstone or granite but those aren't as good. Later on you get ceramic which is better and late game you get a perfect insulator like the old abyssalite but it requires ingredients from other asteroids (ie rocket trips).
Probably not but it will add some stress. As long as morale is somewhat high you should be ok.
Yeah I made the mistake of using older guides like this (although they are still great) and only found out around cycle 150 that I'm never going to get to use Abyssalite for insulation. Heat has been a major problem for me but I've now got a design happening although it nearly cost all my dubs more than they could give. I had to build a system of insulated pipes from a geyser into an ice biome, via an anti entropy thermo nullifier using radiating pipes limited to 2000mL then through more of the ice biome before finally arriving home at a nice 5-20 degrees depending on how angry the geyser was feeling.
Also, with the bathrooms build your waste pipes out to the side, it's less pieces of pipe and hence less decor issues.
@@TheTruePhoenixAU ikr! everything is old useless guides ! i was about to send my people digging well into another bio area potetionally making me restart over.. becase i've restarted so many times because of old guides !
@@Brenryz Most people are waiting for the new DLC to come out now I believe, should be heaps of updated videos when that finally drops :)
@@TheTruePhoenixAU this game is highly addictive for people just getting into the game. learning new stuff every day taking on new challenges. i love this game.
Clear, understandable, informative and not annoying, everything I look for in a beginner guide. Half the fun of these great games is finding decent tutorials like this one. Love the infinite toilet.
This is teaching me so many thing other videos never show!
Glad to hear it :)
What a great tutorial series! I had no idea there was such complexity underneath that simple looking exterior of a game, and you really helped make it manageable for me. Thanks :)
Yeah there is a lot in there! Even more as updates are added. Glad you are finding it useful.
This video in the series was great for me, I was trying to figure out the sinks and lavatories and was getting the piping all wrong. Awesome to see an infinite bathroom because I was also worried about the water usage. Thanks!!
Glad it helped!
I started playing knowing not much about the game failed a few times, I am now sat watching through your tutorial guides until I feel more confident! I am loving your guides and feel like I missed so many things right from the beginning haha😃
Cool that they are helping. The game has a lot of stuff that is easy to miss first few times.
even now with obvious game changes- just having picked this game up and stumbled miraculously through 50ish days on my own, plumbing made easy is just what i needed lol. ty!
Thank you, I was stuck around this point. Everything here will make my life easier
Every day I watch a new episode so I can learn more. Loving the infinite water loop. I don't want to go to work tomorrow I just want to stay inside and play games all day.
Solid video series - really helps explaining some of the "frustrations" you face as a newbie to ONI. I concur with the guy mentioning that turning on the debug mode didn't feel good watching the videos. I prefer much more you just telling the viewer that you'll be skipping ahead, letting your dupes do the work off-screen :)
I knew about the infinite bathroom.... but I never thought to use it to WATER THE PLANTSSSS. This is amazing!!!! Also, this is where i've lost all control in the 4 games I've started so far. I make the coal generators, muck about until i apparently run out of coal, and it all comes to a complete stop. Also, apparently don't care enough about decor. Onto the next!
I'm new to the game and as fun as it seemed, I was just so lost at first and just felt all the wasted time mucking around blindly. These tutorials have been soooooooooo helpful. You explain it well and sound pleasant. Thanks!
Glad they helped you :)
Thank you for pointing out auto bottling! I was digging out special spots to get the water to thin out enough for the dupes to manually mop it up and carry it to the water lock!
Hekinsieden I am planning to do the same thing thanks for his video I dont need to that anymore.
I'm new to this game and didnt understand shit about it at the first sight.
But you have a perfect pace, explains everything very well, now i'm being able to enjoy the game.
Cheers!
Thx. Very detailed. Now I have to restart everything again. I restarted after each episode I watched. I’d better watch all of ur videos before I restart again /:
It's fun to fail and learn from mistakes. That is how I got better over time.
Came for the tutorials and subscribed for the edited out cough. That is class and professionalism my dude 👍🏽
Haha thanks :)
I picked this game up in a steam sale about a month ago, and it’s really good! I couldn’t survive more than 10 days, but watching your videos have definitely helped me and I’m now on cycle 70! Great videos!
Glad they are helping. There is a lot to learn in this game for sure.
my flowers say it polluted water... did they fixed this? or i have to put the pipes exatly the same way you did? Couse i just put a single line trought all the plants with no hairbrush style
Hey man. Thank you so much for your guides. I've learned so much. I never knew you could disinfect food by placing it into chlorine, definitely going to use this !
Glad it is helping.
Thank you so much, i was Playing this game the wrong way this whole time
Great explanation. Just caught the ONI bug and haven't been able to put it down. Thanks for pointing out the mention of germs in the water. Need to keep an eye out for that in my base next time I load it up.
Have fun!
why do people care so much that he used debug mode it's a tutorial y'all.. it means he doesn't have to wait for the dupes to build stuff either god
But Im cheating!!!! Lol
@Grind This Game They should just not watch it and figure it out themselves in a cheating free environment lol.
I wish I saw this video when I started playing ONI last year. Damn search string results!!! Took me a while to understand the mechanics of the sieve (output temp, pipe priority etc) after multiple trial and errors and other tutorials. This vid is filled with tiny details that would just creep up on your colony after multiple cycles. I used to wonder why my dupes kept saying it’s hot in the bathrooms hahaha. Oh well! At least I got to watch almost all of your ONI gameplays before seeing this vid on recommendations 😂😂😂
The games been updated some since these, but still great tutorials and relevant tutorials and highly reccomended
I will redo the series after the game comes out of early access.
@@GrindThisGame hmm, what happened to this promise!? Just kidding, I understand making such a series takes time. Greatly appreciate your content on ONI, really helps getting beginners like me up and running, thanks!
Oops!
You're a god, my dude. Just picked up ONI again and I got stuck. Your guides pushed me through. :)
I prefer to send my overflow dirty water from the bathrooms directly into pincha pepper plants. They need the extra heat and you can grow 4-6 plants just on your bathroom water and a bit of phosphorite
That is what I often do in my bases. Works quite well.
A good note to make is that the debuf doesn't happen when a Dupe is in an exosuit. Also, use crude oil if you are in the oil biome, if you are using magma to flash oil to gas and petrol the water will turn to steam.
Good point. When I get to exosuits I'll mention that :)
you are the best tutorial youtuber i have ever seen
Wow thanks!
Great tutorials, I was getting stuck when I researched plumbing but now I get it! I wouldn't do the airlock trick though because it seems cheaty to me as a new player but it's still handy to no, cheers!
I find the liquid lock invaluable.
Thanks so much for the plumbing demo. It's confusing AF for new players. My first impression was "Why even include input and outputs for plumbing in a game?" This episode shows some choices and tradeoffs that answer that question. Well done!
Glad it is helping :)
Could you use another bridge at 21:08 ? Bridge after the bridge, then most water would go to the plants and overflow could still go to the pit.
Good plan!
Incredibly helpful tutorial. Only critique that I have is I would like you to say why you are building certain things out of specific metals.
Usually, it has something to do with insulation or overheating. For example, if you want to cool your base by building a few pipes and running cool water through them, you will need to make them out of a material with high thermal conductivity. Or if you're building pump in a place that can heat up to like 300 degrees, you'll need to make it out of something that can withstand this temperature
Gosh, I think I need some break from ONI. I wanted to "drag the map" while watching this video.
omg same
same
Thank you for this great tutorial! I was kinda stuck at this point in the game, didn't know what I could do with my dirty or polluted water, and I really started to struggle with excess CO2.
Glad it helped :)
your tutorial line went from the basic stuff to the advanced stuff. I'm missing a lot of steps in between. Like tips&tricks for ranching, other food production, etc.
I'm also wondering about the 'clean water' with the germs. The duplicants use it to clean their hands. Won't that affect their immune systems?
I tried to keep things basic but I do have these guides planned for the future:
- ranching
- morale
- germs
- food guide
- oil/plastic
Germy water can be used in sinks and it doesn't make the dupes dirty. It makes no sense but has worked for a very long time. Might get fixed someday. Now that it is easier to kill germs in water they might fix it.
asking the right questions!
@@GrindThisGame you know how it is today, is it fixed?? I just had the SAME idea for the infinity bathroom lol and was thinking if I should connect the sinks or not...
Thank you so much man!
I'm sure you've gone over it before, but I would love to see you go over the ranching in this game, and maybe a small guide or section of this series dedicated to getting components for the generators (mainly coal). One thing I keep running into a bottleneck for early game is power. Getting coal can be a pain, and the only way I see doing it long term (generally speaking) is via ranching.
Again, thanks for these awesome videos :) Will keep on watching while I'm playing this game for my first few days worth haha
You're welcome Robbie. I'll do a ranching guide for sure. It was on my list. There is a LOT of coal out on the map but hatch ranches are they way to go for renewable coal. Vertical ranchers are better since the tending to hatches goes faster. Natural gas power is pretty good and you'll eventually find 1 or more natural gas geysers. If used with smart batteries and some automation on consumers your power will go a long way. If you don't mind spoilers there are other ways to get power (Below)
Ways to get power:
- coal generators (hatches will eat materials to make more coal, you can set them up in a ranch)
- natural gas generators (later you'll find 1 or more natural gas geysers)
- petroleum generator (there is a LOT of oil at the bottom of the map which can be turned into petroleum...or more complexly into natural gas)
- solar power (not very good but shine bugs can be the light for some solar power)
- steam power (not easy to set up)
- hydrogen becomes renewable from steam geysers where you turn the water into oxygen and hydrogen
- manual generators :)
Thanks for the tip about abyssalite. I had always wondered what it was good for!
its no longer used directly so insulated pipes and tiles out of igneous rocl are the the 3rd best, ceramic 2nd and insulation (late game) the best.
Instead of a liquid lock, how about, like, a sideways S-shaped hallway that uses the weight of the gasses to keep themselves in place? So, the dupes can climb up and down through it, but the oxygen gets tile-blocked up top and the chlorine gets tile-blocked below it. Can you picture what I mean?
Yeah I think that would work depending on pressure.
A P-trap used for plumbing.
Good idea. If space and pressure is not an issue then it would be very cheap.
Thank you for this guide! I think I'm ready to upgrade my toilet situation and yesterday I tried it and totally screwed up all of my clean water. I'm hoping I can get it right now :) My only suggestion of something to add for newbies like me, is when would you suggest people do this? As soon as they have the tech researched? When they have a certain number of dupes? I'm having a hard time figuring out a good order to improve things. (Sorry if this is in another video! I just found your channel and this game. Love both and subbed. Keep up the great guides!!)
You sir deserve more subs
They are subbing :) Just need more time.
Keep up the good videos, really helping a newbie like myself!
Will do. Thanks!
To those of you watching this after May 2019...you no longer need the liquid lock tactic for the game. Just install the "Working airlock doors" mod from the workshop. They completely 2000% separate pressure and any gasses on each side of the door. Some may think it's kind of cheaty using it but it's called an airlock after all . :)
thing missing here is that if you mess too much with your infinite bathroom, that plumbing can get stuck. And of course abyssalite is not as easy to get anymore, unless you want to stress your dupes out collecting it.
Once I set up the bathroom loop I find it just runs forever without ever getting stuck. Abyssalite is pretty easy to collect. How does that stress dupes out anymore than collecting any material?
Could you not use a second bridge so that your plants get it but when backed up it will simply dump into the pit?
I just play the game recently, your video really useful for beginner like me.
Glad to help :)
Thank you, these videos have been tremendously helpful.
How do I get my duplicants to empty dirty water? I got a bottle emptier over a septic tank I made but they refuse to empty the dirty bottles. Keeps saying, "Schedule doesn't allow it." Even though they're working most of the day... Is there a bug? Do I gotta click'em and tell each one, "Yes you may touch the bottles."?
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@@GrindThisGame Alright, thanks man!
I wish they would make a sump pump, one where the pump can be anywhere and a hose for intake and one for output means the water source can be far away, but just add more pipe...
why dont you use mesh tiles instead of regular tiles? any particular reason
Looks like you buried that poor drecko! I usually run pipe to where I am making a water lock with the outlet on the bottom tile. It goes overpressure just as it makes a seal.
I've also been putting suits before the water lock so they don't get a debuff and can be in that place longer.
Unless they changed it that sieve output is at 40c. It won't work for plants. Cooling down an area full of 40c water takes so much energy.
Really enjoying these videos. Very helpful!
how do you select all pipes to be destroyed?
You put a little trap for beginners there :)
Every toilet produce 5,7kg of excess water in "infinite toilet loop" and one Blossom consumes 20kg of water per cycle, so 3 toilet's will feed only one plant per cycle.
There is also another good way to use cleaned water with germs - Refinery, it will warm the water to the temperature when germs start dying really fast and also allow you to not use "Clean cold water" from main water storage.
Just add dupes :) I did mention that they could pull water from a tank instead of the toilet line.
I like the refinery idea.
If I remember correctly, it is a bad idea to use germy water for the wash basins. They should always be fed with fresh water, right?
(Using the excess water for food is always fine, just have to be extremely careful when deconstructing filled pipes, as the water may spread germs when spilled on the floor.)
It's 100% fine, I use self-sustaining bathrooms\wash basins since "Jobs" upgrade and they working fine. If you have Plummber specialization you can "empty" them without spilling any drops of water.
so... if you have 7 dupes, 5.7 x 7 = 39.9, meaning it's gonna irrigate 2 blossoms right?
@@JamesBucket since 39.9 is still less than 40 you will halt plant growth a little, my solution is find one seed of Thimble Reed(can be found is swamp biome) and send all excess polluted water there without clearing. It will grow slowly, but provide you source of fiber for suits, if you REALLY short on clean water - blossom way is better.
just built the plumbing washroom loop. so cool!!! thanks so much
It's handy :) Just make sure it doesn't overflow.
Thanks :). The gas is still coming in without the water air lock.. now its no longer an issue..
So are you still able to use abbys to build pipes or was that removed. I am trying but I do not see the option.
removed. but now there is late game insulation which is about the same.
So important question newbi here so what if i use the clean water with germs to make mush bars then fry them using the electric grill then puting it in the refrigerator or chlorine gas will the food be safe to eat?
They should be. I only use clean water for mush bars. Never tested your idea. I try to get off mush bars fast.
Hmmm I can't get the liquid pipe bridge to connect directly to the sieve, and the page for self-sustaining barhrooms on gamepedia says that the brdige/vent priority doesn't work as of the Occupational Update??
It worked in the cosmic upgrade (as shown in the video).
It doesn't directly connect (ie ports overlapping) but can be 1 tile length over if that makes sense.
Hey GtG, quick question. So I'm not using the auto-build function, and I'm having difficulties getting my dupes to man up and hold their breath. Their sanity skyrockets to 50%< so I have to give them a day off for massages every other cycle to de-stress. I had one duplicant die in the CO2 pit while trying to dig air pockets. Any advice on how to get their keisters in gear?
The early game way is to supply oxygen to your dig tunnels an algae deoxidizer + maybe coal or dupe power in a small sealed room so they can catch their breath while away from the base. Longer term atmosuits/exosuits are the way to go. The dupes walk very slowly in them unless they have training. You'll need refined copper and thimblereeds to build them I think. In episode 6 of this guide I show how to set them up.
As for sanity, you can build some paintings or statues along the way to help keep the decor up while they travel. Later on you can make snazzy suits which can help as well.
How did you remove the doors without deconstructing? I just started few days ago. haha
By cheating with debug mode... normally you deconstruct.
So I build the same system with carbon skimmer, but it is not pumping. It starts with good speed but in a few seconds pumping gets very slow. I tried to replace pipes, enable/disable skimmer and even rebuild the whole system. But always got the same results. Can anyone help please?
Are you trying to do the infinite loop thing with a sieve? Take a bit of water out as it might be blocked or add a liquid tank that doesn't completely fill up. Also it won't work as fast if it has low carbon dioxide.
Finding these videos so useful, thank you so much for making them! I was wondering, are they still completely relevant for the up-to-date game?
About 70% current. Quite a bit has changed.
How did you turn the bottle emptier to face left?
Press o to rotate
Was with you up until this episode. I learned some stuff here, but if you'd built the stuff in this video legit it would have taken like 15 days, which means this build isn't really possible in-game. Thanks for the hard work though, I've learned a lot up until now and it's greatly appreciated!
My Let's plays show stuff in real time if you want to "full" experience.
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Awesome, thanks! Keep up the good work, by the way. As others have said, your channel deserves to be much larger. I've no doubt it will be before long.
Damn this is good stuff, thanks man. One question, is there any way to create some sort of pressurized path, to prevent leak of gases 100% (like the liquid one) but without the liquid? to avoid the negatives of this lock, maybe a more advanced tec?, or using the liquid lock is the only 100% safe method to prevent ur green gas to escape. Thanks !
It's the only 100% safe airlock I've seen. You can create a room between two airlocks which sucks out all the air between uses and filters the correct gasses where they should go. Much more energy intensive and might still have a risk but I've never actually built one. If you dig in from the top of something like a chlorine room and you have high pressure oxygen above it, there is little chance the chlorine will rise out.
Thanks for this you explain things so well.
Will your coal generator produce more CO2 than your skimmer cleans out? I don't have the numbers in front of me, but I didn't think that worked.
I think 1 skimmer can handle the CO2 from about 15 coal generators. 20g/sec vs. -300g/sec
How do you get in debug mode?
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Is there a way to clean the clean water with germs i really want to not worry about losing water.I already have a decent amount of food and a crap ton of oxygen using the electrothingies (i forgot what thay are called) and all of my algae
You can put it in a liquid reservoir that is in a room with chlorine gas. All the germs will die. At least it worked with gas... otherwise if you let clean water with germs sit...the germs will die off...takes time though. I usually use germ water for plants.
ok thanks so much ok last question (for now)
Whats the suitable amount of dups cause i think im screwed im on cycle 56 i do have really good oxygen and food but i have 9 dups they do have decent stats and most of my dups jobs are almost max
And i also cant find a god damn geyser
Thought of something, that might be cool to add to the game.
Mutations? Endgame stuff.
A new gas, highly dangerous and volatile.
But if its refined/worked it can be used into higher science to alter genetics. Like pills for extra bonuses. But it always comes with a negative.
Mutations could work aswell if small doses worked into the breathed air and breathed throughout many cýcles.
using all this would put high distress on your dupes. But if you can manage it'll be very worth it.
Using germy to wash your hands is fine? Or does the 40 degree water kill the germs?
Germy water is fine. Devs might change that in the future but it has been like this for a long time.
Even tough i’ve been playing this game for a while and i understand the basics, this tutorial has great tips. I just have one question, is it not a problem that they are washing their hands with germ water? 0.o they wont get germs from that? This is why i couldnt really do an infinite bathroom since the germ update, because i tought i had to get rid of the germs for that..
germ water for hand washing works. odd but true.
Thank you for making this guide:) its helps a lot.
Does this work for the latest version where the game got fully released?
how do you even dig without even require the dub to dig? I just saw that you jus select that part and it become empty imediately. Could you please share me how do you do so?
It's cheating with debug mode.
I can't get them to fill the "well" with water, they did it briefly then they ignore the pump discharge.
You might need auto-bottle set on and make sure they have a water source somewhere.
Awesome series - really helpful!
huh... i always found using water distiller as an waste of sand usage, usually i used to heat polluted water into steam and cool it back into clean water, don't know if it still works though xD
The sieve uses way less energy. Polluted water can be left to produce oxygen though as well.
why is everything built automatically?
abyssalite got nerfed into the ground. Any other pipes i could use instead of it?
insulated igneous rock or sedimentary rock work fairly well, later on ceramic works better and way later insulation (which is like abyssalite) works best but comes from space.
does slime produce polluted air out of nothing? Because if so, it would be a great source of oxygen later on.
Hello, your tutorials have been extremely helpful thus far. On my main world I tried to make a giant water resevoir with a liquid tepidzer in it so I can use it for practically any water purpose and I failed, and I managed to lose my food supply and died. Do you have any tips on getting all the water together? I also wanted to ask you about a base design. I made it so that there is one ladder in the middle and 4 tile rooms on each side of the ladder and I was starting to think it wasnt really effective... Do you have any ideas? The farthest I have ever gotten was managing to get to a place with chlorine.
A fairly recent base building series also goes into a lot of detail:
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But this one is my current one on a slightly harder world:
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I use liquid reservoirs to store water because they are naturally insulated a bit. You also make an insulated tank out of insulated tiles. My base floors are usually 4 high and 16 wide (for 64 tile bedrooms, bathrooms etc) and 4x24 for critter ranches. I usually put 1 ladder and 1 firepole between each 16 wide floor (see videos). Check out liquid locks before you break open chlorine pockets.
@@GrindThisGame Alright thanks, been really helpful. Just one more question. I tried to have a farm near the bottom left of my base but natural gas somehow makes its way in there and stops me from growing anything, and I dont even know how its coming. I tried using a natural gas generator to get rid of it but it keeps coming back. Got any ideas?
Tried to do the infinite water lavatory thing earlier to get oxygen after algae ran out using electrolyzers. Plumbing broke, and flooded my oxygen generator room. It has already destroyed a generator and rendered a super-computer useless, and my upper levels flooded with hydrogen, almost all of my remaining oxygen has slime lung, and my carbon dioxide pits are full, so they have been airlocked off. I am still on turn 45, and 7 colonists have died already, so I just have a bunch of corpses lying around. Also, the food generator got flooded, so all the time is spent mopping and not producing food, which has caused several starvation-related deaths. Everyone's stress hit 100% despite all of the art, probably due to the corpses and piss. Anyone have any idea how to fix it?
start again...
Are these "infinite" loops still working in the newest update? And are they considered as exploits? And the word infinite isn't correct right? cause you'll run out of sand for the sieve eventually
Yes it is still viable. I'm not sure if it is an intended feature to wash hands with germy water :P
Guide speed is perfect for a beginner
Glad you think so :)
As soon as I build my liquid lock and put my food box into the gas, the stress level just cranks up. I even build a second recreation room but they about to hit 100% in like 3 days after getting the lock in :/
what morale do the dupes have and what expectations?
@@GrindThisGame Looks like two are especially problematic. morale:4/12 on one, 3/12 on the other. The other duplicants sitting around 30 to 40 stress. Not sure where I can see expectations. I also have no fiber for canvas yet so I was flooding their places with sculpture blocks instead. And roomwise I have a mess hall, two massage rooms and barracks as well as a latrine.
@@GrindThisGame Also they don't seem to be able to catch their food in time now. I have 27k food stord but they get "starvation" every now and then and are just standing in our outside the liquid lock
simple questions: you're not using the basic sandbox mode right? when i destroy things , the properties don't fall down...
sorry, you say debug mode. Is this accessible ? I envy being able to move things around and destroying a chosen item, instead of every thing on that tile. I'm still a newb though, so be gentle.I don't know what i don't know.
I think I was using debug to build things quickly. If you destroy a floor the building on the floor will stay there but stop working. Any materials on the floor will fall down though. Sandbox mode is much easier to use for just messing about and building things quickly. Debug mode is a bit less user friendly. Buildings things is fairly quick just playing normally though. If you destroy buildings you get the materials back.
Could an airlock be created, and be effective if air was used instead? For instance get carbon dioxide to rest in the hole?
It's very difficult because high pressures from a different gas will like push away your carbon dioxide, opening up the airlock. If pressure gets too low the carbon dioxide will flow out of your airlock, opening it up as well. Liquids have the big advantage that they are not really moved by gasses.
How do you not get germs washing your hands in it?
magic
i find your tutorials very informative and helpfull, thanks for making them, ;)
You're welcome :)
Do the dups get germs on their hands from using germy water in the wash basins?
nope
If you do infinite water bathroom plus infinite co2 ( dont remember what its name) its more efficient in a loop. After that i figured out water is the key to sucess. Because the grims isnt that imporatant after all, thanks Man ;))
Thnx for the teaching man, you are awesome..!
Great video but just so people know the infinite bathroom shown here no longer works. It appears that the germ level will build up in the water and slightly exceed the level that the sinks clean in one go but not enough that the dups think they need to use a second sink. So they start to wander around infecting the base,
I ended up feeding the output of the sieve into a chamber filled with chlorine gas using three liquid storage devices in series with the output of that dumping into its own reservoir. Too paranoid to just dump it into the main one.
I like the change because it doesn't make sense to wash your hands with germy water and get clean.
I havent hit the germ thing you are talking about.
great videos man, thanx
thanks man, useful video.
"Well as long as I'm already cheating in debug mode, I might as well take the opportunity to cheat a bit more. Learn from me."
i use debug for faster tutorials. my base series dont use debug.
@@GrindThisGame That's great and all but in a tutorial video on how to build a base, I would expect to see how to actually build something working around the duplicant's 4 tile range for building. You building a structure in the middle of a room in cheat mode doesnt show me how to build the structure, does it? No, it just shows me what it should look like after it's finished. I'm sure there's a super easy way to do it but I only got the game two days ago so I need all the help I can get.
Are you aware that there might be a volcano of some kind under where you build the wall to contain the slime you released by accident? It's below where you built the carbon skimmer.
I haven't really looked for geysers yet but thanks.
Y dont you play with the expressive preview?
Waiting until it is a bit more stable and really want to get this tutorial series more done :)
Grind This Game ok
Never thought Topher Grace would be teaching me this