I see on you video you also have a deadzone. Strange how you dont mention this. I did also buy a TCA but after detecting a deadzone on both x- and y-axis I returned it and got back my money. Even tried a firmware update first... A deadzone simply makes a joystick or yoke useless for me as you would not find that in any real aircraft. Fly safe ....
Great review! Absolutely concur. After using the TCA Boeing Yoke and Throttle Quadrant for the last few weeks, I can say without a doubt that the yoke is excellent. My biggest complaints come from the quadrant. My reversers respond precisely like yours (although I agree this is on MSFS 2020's end), but the overall build quality does not match the yoke's. The clamp securing the quadrant to the desk requires me to tighten it to the point that the metal begins to warp below the desk. Even tightened to such a degree, the quadrant doesn't feel nearly as secure as it should. Plus, the lack of a flaps lever, even without detents, is a cost-cutting measure that will undoubtedly leave many disappointed.
Hello!! Is there a throttle quadrant that has the detents for the flap control? Maybe I could pair this quadrant with another to create the ultimate cockpit? Thanks!!
Great review ! I’ve got a GF Boeing yoke I used for my cockpit setup for Xplane 10/11 and the dimensions look about right for the TM. I will be getting it since the GF has some button problems and isn’t designed with the pendulum system as in the real ac. I too will be using the Bravo for my quad. Thanks for this review. Once I get the TM, I’ll be using it mainly for MSFS especially after pmdg releases their much anticipated 737. Hopefully it’s as good or better than zibos. Tho that may be close to impossible! Zibo has done excellent work on that ac! Cheers
Yes that quad would be nice with it. The only thing this Boeing one left me wanting on the Bravo is bigger handle grips. I might pick up some aftermarket handles now.
Just an idea for you that i thought of, use the landing gear lever on this yoke as parking brake and landing gear on the bravo as the actual gear lever
Nice review! LOL for the crazy throttle jumps in FS 2020. Glad to see Thrustmaster have done a decent job in terms of build quality, at least with the yoke. Shame they did a little too much cost-cutting (I guess) with the throttle. I would have considered buying this kit if the throttle was a complete unit - with 6 axes (1 x flaps, 1x spoilers, 2 x thrust and 2 x reverse thrust). I wonder if the community are going to be modding this, fixing some of the shortcomings with 3D prints and custom electronics.
Can you try to connect it to Xbox series X to see if the reverse yoke it’s working properly or not in MFS2020? If not, Can you send an email to them, Or if you could contact them on their forum to request them fix this matter. I’m planning to have the Yoke as you made me hesitate once you told me about the reserve issue. Also, Do filming to record this on TH-cam. Hopefully, they can fix it sooner with the incoming update. Thank you.
Great First Look/Review Pat. I can't remember if you have the Honeycomb Bravo or not. If you do, what do you think of how the throttles compare to the Bravo? I'm quite interested in the Yoke, less so in the throttle unit. I second @Death Donky interest in follow up/long term review. -Lee
It's a small thing, but it sure is a shame they didn't include the approach chart clip :( I assumed it was functional, so thanks for the heads up - other videos skipped over it.
My Mach/HDG/Alt rotating outer knob is very "crunchy" instead of a smooth click to each station, Is this normal? Its almost like TM doesnt have any real gamers working there, just college grads with laptops. The gear lever needed to be a three way switch. They only put three levers so you will have to buy another throttle just for the one more they could have put on the first one, lol.
Thrust master screwed up big time, the yoke is good, apart from the totally crap landing lever which is very loose and poor quality, it looks more like an afterthought compared to the yoke. The throttle quadrant is a joke, why the hell they thought it was ok to have to choose between either flaps lever or speed break. It should have had 4 axis, glad I went with the Honeycomb Bravo.
Thank you for a nice review. Toggle/hold reverse thrust is the MSFS 2020 update 7 bug. Before it worked normally. I have to use decrease throttle instead. Could you please measure the yoke desk clamp dimensions? What ist the maximum desk thikness it can handle? Thank you.
amazing review patrick, proper information( although I didnt understand the 65536 because I am not a full on airliner pilot just a highschool student XD) . You killed it man!
Same bro I'm a freshman and all I have is a Logitech X-52 Professional of which I wish to have independent flight peripherals for airliners and general aviation.
65536 has nothing to do with being an airline pilot. That number basically means how many points the computer has to sense movement on the yoke. Hope this helped
The troutles not looking like boeing troutles at all! I heve 3d printet troutles using whit my saitek. Look 100% real!!! One on one! I have only the airbus, boeing look fake!
For reverse thrust in msfs just use the same as the f2 button on the keypad decrease throttle and to cancel reverse briefly open and shut the throttles.This is for the PMPG 737.
Excellent review with detailed explanations. Very pleasant speaking and demonstration manner that give straight forward insights into the potential issues with these devices. I bought the Honeycomb Alpha Flight Controls and Bravo Throttle quadrants. Nothing but problems with MSFS where things work sporadically. Have hours programming, uninstalling, re installing and totally aggravated with the interface. Hate flying the sim, and as a retired Professional Pilot I thought it is my incompetence with Simulation that was the problem. I’m finally prepared to switch to the Boeing TCA lineup and give this try. Based on what I read here, hoping this gets me back into “desk” flying given I no longer have access to the real heavy metal! Cheers. Thanks for the great insights.
I'm pretty disappointed with the reverse levers though. They have no detents so it's either full reverse or idle throttle. It'd be great if they could add that in the future.
@@harrisonknight2562 This is also the problem with companies like FS elite. They are distributors and Have to say nice stuff so they can make money regardless of selling dogshit to us
In MSFS you can map the reverse buttons to “Hold Reverse Throttle” then use the throttle axes to set reverse throttle power. When you flip the reverse switches back, the throttle again acts as the throttle.
Anyone else having a problem with the throttle quadrant turn dial. As it's always in either speed, heading or altitude mode this then cause flightsim to think that button is being pressed continually and it then causes the heading, speed and altitude windows to go up and down in 10s rather than 1s
Yes exactly, I don't know how in the video are the settings, but I have only one quadrant and I can't chose to select altitude or heading or IAS, once I assigned the button them the knob will only works for heading, I havr to go to the settings each time which is not the case, the knobs is not working properly
Hello guys! Im using mfs2020 on my xbox does anyone know how to setup the flaps on the tca quadrant? And do you guys know if i use dubble quadrant on the xbox does they both work Or only single one?
i do like the look, but common a landing gear switch like that, and i gues 15 cents extra for 3 lights that show red or green would be to expensive, i have the airbus throttle set myself and the thrust reverse works mutch better on it , so i gues using the joke with the airbuss throttle would be a better option
I'm having a lot of fun with my Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke and Throttle. Nothing wrong with the throttle quadrant IMHO and I prefer it to the Honeycomb, as it looks nice, does not take up much space and functions as it should.
Perfect review, very professional. Thanks a lot, subscribed! Now I've ordered the set and I'm really looking forward to use them in my next vatsim session :)
Looks great except for the throttle quadrant not having flaps (detents) or TO/GA buttons. Also the reverser input just being a button instead of an axis. I'm curious how the yoke feels with other GA aircraft in MSFS? Trying to decide between this and honeycomb yoke. (Don't forget to deploy the speedbrake upon landing).
Nice video mate. What do you think about the deadzone? Is it as bad as on the honeycomb? I want to combine it with the Thrustmaster Airbus Throttle Quadrant.
Hello. In my area, the Turtle-Beach velocity one is 500$ whilst the Thrust-Master is 750$. Is the 250$ extra for the Thrust-Master worth it? How does the Turtle-Beach compare to the Thrust-Master?
I’ve got the velocity one, it’s great for starters but if you want to get serious get this, I’m getting this aswell as the Airbus side stick captain pack
I've had my thrustmaster TPR pedals for a while, and if they came with a cable to plug into this, I would have misplaced it. What kind of cable is used to plug the pedals in? (I have the boeing tca pack on order, but it hasn't shipped yet).
Meh.. I dunno.. seems like Honeycomb Alpha and Bravo together do better job than this, not to mention more functions. Both combined cost exactly the same as this one too, at least here.
Bravo blows this quadrant out the water it's not even close. However the Boeing yoke has hall sensors whereas the alpha doesn't not to mention if you fly airliners thos yoke would give better immersion being a pendulum configuration instead of push/pull like the honeycomb.
@@FSElite hmm i hope so cause i dont want to be disappointed when it arrived at home i hope i found finally some good equipment. Also hope it works well with my pendular rudder pedal!
This was an incredible review!! You didn’t really cover the buttons located below the throttle levers. Do they light up? Stay depressed when pushed or pop up? Thanks!!
I have the alpha yoke which when compared to CH products is nice but it still suffers when trying to fine tune inputs while landing that I hope will not be a problem with this yoke.
Shouldn’t be a problem for you if coming from CH. This yoke has a much high resolution on Hall effect sensors, meaning it’s going to pick up very fine movements.
Yeah it was still very new feeling to me at that point, the pivot feel. In hindsight I'd rather just fly the hardware for a while and get used to the feel before recording the usage.
The one thing that annoys me most is msfs does not allow us to export these controls setups so the community can share their mappings like in dcs
I see on you video you also have a deadzone. Strange how you dont mention this. I did also buy a TCA but after detecting a deadzone on both x- and y-axis I returned it and got back my money. Even tried a firmware update first... A deadzone simply makes a joystick or yoke useless for me as you would not find that in any real aircraft. Fly safe ....
again you can remove it in the settings
@@Deltaexe190what software?
@@Luca-mk9zc msfs settings
Great review! Absolutely concur. After using the TCA Boeing Yoke and Throttle Quadrant for the last few weeks, I can say without a doubt that the yoke is excellent. My biggest complaints come from the quadrant. My reversers respond precisely like yours (although I agree this is on MSFS 2020's end), but the overall build quality does not match the yoke's. The clamp securing the quadrant to the desk requires me to tighten it to the point that the metal begins to warp below the desk. Even tightened to such a degree, the quadrant doesn't feel nearly as secure as it should. Plus, the lack of a flaps lever, even without detents, is a cost-cutting measure that will undoubtedly leave many disappointed.
Hello!! Is there a throttle quadrant that has the detents for the flap control? Maybe I could pair this quadrant with another to create the ultimate cockpit? Thanks!!
Great review ! I’ve got a GF Boeing yoke I used for my cockpit setup for Xplane 10/11 and the dimensions look about right for the TM. I will be getting it since the GF has some button problems and isn’t designed with the pendulum system as in the real ac. I too will be using the Bravo for my quad. Thanks for this review. Once I get the TM, I’ll be using it mainly for MSFS especially after pmdg releases their much anticipated 737. Hopefully it’s as good or better than zibos. Tho that may be close to impossible! Zibo has done excellent work on that ac! Cheers
I’ll be getting the stand alone and pair it with the Bravo. Should be a nice combo
Yes that quad would be nice with it. The only thing this Boeing one left me wanting on the Bravo is bigger handle grips. I might pick up some aftermarket handles now.
Absolutely doing the same thing, my honeycomb yoke is having some massive issues now so a great time for an upgrade
Just an idea for you that i thought of, use the landing gear lever on this yoke as parking brake and landing gear on the bravo as the actual gear lever
@@morenutshell1565 Will probably do that, currently it’s on the GA flaps lever
Great review! Reversers work now too, and you can put a USB reading light into that open USB slot for night flights
Nice review! LOL for the crazy throttle jumps in FS 2020. Glad to see Thrustmaster have done a decent job in terms of build quality, at least with the yoke. Shame they did a little too much cost-cutting (I guess) with the throttle. I would have considered buying this kit if the throttle was a complete unit - with 6 axes (1 x flaps, 1x spoilers, 2 x thrust and 2 x reverse thrust). I wonder if the community are going to be modding this, fixing some of the shortcomings with 3D prints and custom electronics.
Thank you! That is the cool thing about the 3D printing era now.
@@FSElite how can i get your desk i love it
I'd love to see Yoke moving while A/P engaged.
I bet you would.
@@cbowers318haha
Yeah but it would cost like a thousand bucks
Great review! I've pre ordered my set... would be nice if the flap lever had detents.
Very professional review and I like that product after watching this. Thank you so much for the demonstration and explaination.
Good review of the Yoke and Throttle for the TCA Product. I fly a B-767 for UPS.
hello i love your desk how can i get it please and can u do a video on your setup please i would love to have a setup like yours
Can you try to connect it to Xbox series X to see if the reverse yoke it’s working properly or not in MFS2020? If not, Can you send an email to them, Or if you could contact them on their forum to request them fix this matter. I’m planning to have the Yoke as you made me hesitate once you told me about the reserve issue. Also, Do filming to record this on TH-cam. Hopefully, they can fix it sooner with the incoming update. Thank you.
hey, Thoughts on the Boeing vs the XPC yoke? also, how would this fare for mostly GA flying?
Great First Look/Review Pat. I can't remember if you have the Honeycomb Bravo or not. If you do, what do you think of how the throttles compare to the Bravo? I'm quite interested in the Yoke, less so in the throttle unit. I second @Death Donky interest in follow up/long term review. -Lee
Excellent review! Seriously considering picking this yoke up. & yes, MSFS is weird with ‘reverse thrust’.
HELP - When I create a profile the landing gear doesn’t open, just retract - HELP. How do I fix it?
For the reverse, my solution is keep as default setting (equal to keyboard F2), and set the same button on release for cut off :)
If I buy this can I fly a Airbus and other planes with this or is this only for the Boeing
You can fly Airbus with it. I used to do that with my first yoke, before having a joystick.
It's a small thing, but it sure is a shame they didn't include the approach chart clip :( I assumed it was functional, so thanks for the heads up - other videos skipped over it.
My Mach/HDG/Alt rotating outer knob is very "crunchy" instead of a smooth click to each station, Is this normal? Its almost like TM doesnt have any real gamers working there, just college grads with laptops. The gear lever needed to be a three way switch. They only put three levers so you will have to buy another throttle just for the one more they could have put on the first one, lol.
Thrust master screwed up big time, the yoke is good, apart from the totally crap landing lever which is very loose and poor quality, it looks more like an afterthought compared to the yoke. The throttle quadrant is a joke, why the hell they thought it was ok to have to choose between either flaps lever or speed break.
It should have had 4 axis, glad I went with the Honeycomb Bravo.
I'm asking me which to buy...
Honeycomb Alpha Bravo Yoke or the Thrustmaster Boeing Yoke?!
Try the Boeing yoke if you like airliners primarily. If you fly GA mostly and some airliners then Honeycomb.
18:31 “this time without the use of TO/GAaAa”
Will get this when PMDG releases their much anticipated 737/777
How to install the Boeing 737-800- I can not see it in MSFS. I put it in Community folder, but that is maybe wrong. Thanks for answer.
The 737 you saw was X-Plane 11.
You can to upgrade to premium edition for MFS2020 to get it.
Thank you for a nice review. Toggle/hold reverse thrust is the MSFS 2020 update 7 bug. Before it worked normally. I have to use decrease throttle instead.
Could you please measure the yoke desk clamp dimensions? What ist the maximum desk thikness it can handle? Thank you.
I am also curious on max desk thickness.
amazing review patrick, proper information( although I didnt understand the 65536 because I am not a full on airliner pilot just a highschool student XD) . You killed it man!
Same bro I'm a freshman and all I have is a Logitech X-52 Professional of which I wish to have independent flight peripherals for airliners and general aviation.
65536 has nothing to do with being an airline pilot. That number basically means how many points the computer has to sense movement on the yoke. Hope this helped
in MSFS you can map the side button on the throttle to Toggle reverse thrust, and then you can use the throttle to have full range of reverse thrust.
The troutles not looking like boeing troutles at all! I heve 3d printet troutles using whit my saitek. Look 100% real!!! One on one! I have only the airbus, boeing look fake!
For reverse thrust in msfs just use the same as the f2 button on the keypad decrease throttle and to cancel reverse briefly open and shut the throttles.This is for the PMPG 737.
Excellent review with detailed explanations. Very pleasant speaking and demonstration manner that give straight forward insights into the potential issues with these devices.
I bought the Honeycomb Alpha Flight Controls and Bravo Throttle quadrants. Nothing but problems with MSFS where things work sporadically. Have hours programming, uninstalling, re installing and totally aggravated with the interface. Hate flying the sim, and as a retired Professional Pilot I thought it is my incompetence with Simulation that was the problem.
I’m finally prepared to switch to the Boeing TCA lineup and give this try. Based on what I read here, hoping this gets me back into “desk” flying given I no longer have access to the real heavy metal!
Cheers. Thanks for the great insights.
I'm pretty disappointed with the reverse levers though. They have no detents so it's either full reverse or idle throttle. It'd be great if they could add that in the future.
this would be $3k if it were any good. I bet a huge part of the price goes to boeing licensing and not much else left for quality
@@pgreenx Exactly
@@harrisonknight2562 This is also the problem with companies like FS elite. They are distributors and Have to say nice stuff so they can make money regardless of selling dogshit to us
In MSFS you can map the reverse buttons to “Hold Reverse Throttle” then use the throttle axes to set reverse throttle power. When you flip the reverse switches back, the throttle again acts as the throttle.
I don’t think the real 737 has detents for reverse thrust
Anyone else having a problem with the throttle quadrant turn dial. As it's always in either speed, heading or altitude mode this then cause flightsim to think that button is being pressed continually and it then causes the heading, speed and altitude windows to go up and down in 10s rather than 1s
Yes exactly, I don't know how in the video are the settings, but I have only one quadrant and I can't chose to select altitude or heading or IAS, once I assigned the button them the knob will only works for heading, I havr to go to the settings each time which is not the case, the knobs is not working properly
Hello guys! Im using mfs2020 on my xbox does anyone know how to setup the flaps on the tca quadrant? And do you guys know if i use dubble quadrant on the xbox does they both work Or only single one?
How your flaps make noise?
I wich thrustamster did the boing throttle like the airbus throttle
Deadzones if you notis the video carefull....
is Xplane better than MSFS? I have the same setting but I can't get the throttle quadrant to work properly!! Any suggestions?
Wow, thrustmaster clearly favours Boeing over Airbus 😅
Anyone know what program that was to assign the binds?
How high is the top of the yoke from your desk cause my monitor is realitvley low and want to know tif it will cover my screen to much?
Great review! ahh comments lol 😂
what the f*** is wrong with the clouds in the MSFS2020 game? The aircraft also moved like a go kart..
i do like the look, but common a landing gear switch like that, and i gues 15 cents extra for 3 lights that show red or green would be to expensive, i have the airbus throttle set myself and the thrust reverse works mutch better on it , so i gues using the joke with the airbuss throttle would be a better option
How do you wire the second quadrant on xbox?
USB to USB. But to Xbox one USB point only
Do you have any experience of Flightgear. I am wondering if the yoke would work out of the box for PC on FG.
Hey, does the ThrustMaster yoke itself come with both throttles so you can control a 4 engine jet?
I'm having a lot of fun with my Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke and Throttle. Nothing wrong with the throttle quadrant IMHO and I prefer it to the Honeycomb, as it looks nice, does not take up much space and functions as it should.
Perfect review, very professional. Thanks a lot, subscribed! Now I've ordered the set and I'm really looking forward to use them in my next vatsim session :)
How did you map the flaps on MSFS? ie: 5/10/20/30
I think buying the yoke alone, and the airbus throttle could work the best
13:07 reminds me off asiana flight 214
Hello, the flaps don’t have points?, 1,5,10,15 etc...?, thank you.
Hi, can you explain how you set the Boeing throttle to the shelf level for each number? (1,2,5,10,15,25,35,40)
Looks great except for the throttle quadrant not having flaps (detents) or TO/GA buttons. Also the reverser input just being a button instead of an axis. I'm curious how the yoke feels with other GA aircraft in MSFS? Trying to decide between this and honeycomb yoke. (Don't forget to deploy the speedbrake upon landing).
They do on the side of each throttle the black button he literally said it.
Nice video mate.
What do you think about the deadzone? Is it as bad as on the honeycomb?
I want to combine it with the Thrustmaster Airbus Throttle Quadrant.
Hello. In my area, the Turtle-Beach velocity one is 500$ whilst the Thrust-Master is 750$. Is the 250$ extra for the Thrust-Master worth it? How does the Turtle-Beach compare to the Thrust-Master?
I’ve got the velocity one, it’s great for starters but if you want to get serious get this, I’m getting this aswell as the Airbus side stick captain pack
i think thats better then honeycomb...
I've had my thrustmaster TPR pedals for a while, and if they came with a cable to plug into this, I would have misplaced it. What kind of cable is used to plug the pedals in? (I have the boeing tca pack on order, but it hasn't shipped yet).
Meh.. I dunno.. seems like Honeycomb Alpha and Bravo together do better job than this, not to mention more functions. Both combined cost exactly the same as this one too, at least here.
Bravo blows this quadrant out the water it's not even close. However the Boeing yoke has hall sensors whereas the alpha doesn't not to mention if you fly airliners thos yoke would give better immersion being a pendulum configuration instead of push/pull like the honeycomb.
I'm going to be using this yoke on GA aircrafts as well
how this tablet mod called?
thanks for sharing us. Can you post the measure of the base? height, width ecc ecc
Best review, thanks a lot!
Like very much ir is down to facts and not hysterical at all.
Broo dafuq?.. while landing you are steering like you got some 3G’s crosswind. But your yoke in your plane is like! Where is the deadzone? 13:40 😂😂
There was a 10k crosswind at the time. Not much of a dead zone with this yoke unless you set one up.
@@FSElite hmm i hope so cause i dont want to be disappointed when it arrived at home i hope i found finally some good equipment. Also hope it works well with my pendular rudder pedal!
FSUIPC can map these buttons
Does the extra throttle come with it or did you Buy it separate
Also like to mention the math and stuff dannggg
LINDA can map these in p3d available on AVSIM forums.
Guys, has your yoke a dead zone when turning sideways to the extreme? I mean, axis Y
Mine has a center deadzone and a size deadzone and I can’t figure out how to adjust it. Been looking through videos trying to figure it out
Legends are watching this but cannot buy
i wonder how pairing the yoke with the airbus throttles and controls would work. might be a better setup for airliners
Can you use two throttle quadrants on xbox?
This was an incredible review!! You didn’t really cover the buttons located below the throttle levers. Do they light up? Stay depressed when pushed or pop up? Thanks!!
Thank you! No they don't, would have been so cool.
What are your recommended sensitivity settings for this yoke in MSFS and Xplane? Any deadzone? Also, are you using 3 springs or 4?
Awesome congratulations 🍾
do you know if the yoke can be used as direction wheel in race games?
That should work. I used my Saitek Yoke for years on American Truck Sim and Project Cars. Just need to assign the steering axis to the aileron.
Is the reverse thrust fixed for FS20?
What a great review Patrick!
Is the problem with msfs fixed ?
dag jonas
I have the alpha yoke which when compared to CH products is nice but it still suffers when trying to fine tune inputs while landing that I hope will not be a problem with this yoke.
Shouldn’t be a problem for you if coming from CH. This yoke has a much high resolution on Hall effect sensors, meaning it’s going to pick up very fine movements.
It looks great 👍
hi is this for windows 10 or windows 11
Do you know any wireless rudders to go with it?
Nothing that I know of yet.
Has the reverse thrusters been fixed yet?
where to find the clamp for throttle?????
Was good until the buttons just stopped working. They don't even register now. No idea why. All up to date. Waste of 300 quid
"TM, reinvents the 1:1" "your nxt 1:1 is not a 1:1"
You were way off on FD after rotate...
Yeah it was still very new feeling to me at that point, the pivot feel. In hindsight I'd rather just fly the hardware for a while and get used to the feel before recording the usage.
Do not buy
Expensive
I do wonder if you are able to connect this to your laptop?
Yes if the laptop has modern USB it should work just fine.
Why with rudder bro?
hi, what is this boeing? Pmdg or 737 from market?
X-Plane Zibo Mod 737-800X.
@@FSElite ok thanks 🙏
Which rudder are you using with it?
Great review, did Thrustmaster send you this randomly? Enjoy it! It looks so cool, I’m definitely getting it.
Not sure "randomly" is the right word lol
Whatis the phone stand for?
It only really made sense in X-Plane.
is the review trust fixed yet?