ORIS Big Crown ProPilot X - Shanghai Launch and Interview with CEO
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I was invited out to Shanghai, China to the launch event and part of the new Oris Big Crown ProPilot X and their new in-house movement the calibre 115.
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This holding value nonsense is going to ruin the watch market. Buy for love not for value. If you're concerned about resale value, surely you are buying the wrong watch in the first place.
JamesBardolphCS if you’re concerned about resale value you buy second hand a save 40-50%. It’s something to be aware of and it is important because many buyers may want to sell on in the future whether they intend to or not.
Instead wait a year and you will buy one for around $2500
JamesBardolphCS Hear hear, buy with your heart because you love it.
Wise words. Have you noticed no one talks about quality just resale values. It's very boring 💤
@@leeharding8306
It's oversized, not that good quality, and (way) too expensive, and of course that price tag is going to shock people..
This is a watch for the guy who doesn't want to be the 4th or 5th guy with a Rolex sub at the business conference.
ORIS was here in Miami this last Thursday for our RedBar meet-up.
"more sophisticated than a sub"...with that fugly clasp that says "LIFT" on it LOL
Awesome review buddy and still; missing China. Bad coffee but awesome tea which is definitely worth a try.
Enjoy your stay and be happy you arrived in September, July/ August is far more humid and hot 😁🙏🏻👍🏻
Phirstly, Congratulations on passing the 60k subscribers mark Adrian!
Good on Oris for designing something different. I don’t want to see another Black Bay homage. ✊
Firstly*
Thanks for the review Adrian 👍👍
Adrian, It is an interesting piece of machinery. I have never liked skeleton watches, but this piece might warrant a look. I would want to see it in person and try it on, as a 44mm case is most likely going to be too large on my wrist. I do like the design cues Oris has used and the movement is definitely special. Great to see Oris being bold.
Great content! i really like Oris. im a fan of what they have been dong. This ProPilot X is a nice change of pace in the watch world and for them. I also admire the fact that Oris isnt really concerned with what other watch brands are doing or what the trends are. I am excited to see where they go in the coming years and what new pieces they have for us in the future.
Interesting and good video. I guess at the end of the day how much can you keep redesigning the wheel? Yes good looking but even a Casio mrg is smaller which I think in a funny way Oris have used as a cue? It always makes me itch when the retail price of anything consists of huge marketing budgets and hence becomes so high once an AD have also had their wedge? Count £ 6000.00 or so quid out in twenties and you know what £6000.00 looks like? Not that watch? Cheers.
I've got to say that's a huge watch it looks pretty chunky to
I like the design.... I'm even ok with the oversized strap closure mechanism...
But.... for me, it needs greater accuracy, 200m plus waterproofing..and zero play in anything... end links or otherwise.
Are there any lumed markers ? I guess not, otherwise you'd have said...
So.....meh...it's nice...but it feels like the price reflects the features, rather than the benefits. Power reserve is ok, but when you pick the watch up after 10 days. It could be 1 minute + out, which is too much for the cost of the watch. Nice though....bit big...but nice.
I applaud Oris for testing new ground....
Would love to see this type of video but with Sinn. I'm a huge Sinn fanboi and want to hear your thoughts on them.
Hate skeletonized watches, but that bracelet and clasp are 🔥
I'm not this is an in house movement is it?
Thanks for including the interview with the CEO. You teased out of him the possibilities of things coming next year, which hopefully will be more in line for those of us not looking to spend $7K on an Oris. 😉👍
Love the concept, like the dial and love the case back....however really dont like the bracelet and especially the clasp...looks like something out of a low budget sci-fi movie!! Way too futuristic for my taste! Put that watch on a vintage dark brown croc strap with deployant clasp, now you’re talking.... still prefer a zenith over this one tho!!
would prefer it if it was in steel
-4 / +6 seconds per day is indeed within COSC specs, which is even more impressive over the watch's 10-day power reserve.
“More interesting than a Submariner....”
Flies home to his two Submariners! ;)
I have a major soft spot for Oris, a great watch company well worth championing.
Me too, they really come across as an honest company. I have a lot of time for them. Thanks for watching.
Oris is garbage. Plain and simple. Stop pushing this trash, you damn sellout.
Alexander Vic I’ve got an Oris watch , I bought it pre owned at a much reduced price and I am impressed by the quality and robustness of the watch.
I own other brands and I am not in the market for a $7500 Oris I admit, but I’d stop short “some way short”, actually of ever describing the brand as garbage.
Bremont also gets it in the neck from you in your comments & whilst I will concede it’s not a brand I do or am ever likely to consider purchasing, I wouldn’t call it garbage either, if we’re going to have a handful of brands that are deemed acceptable & the fifty or so companies beneath them marked down as rubbish then watch appreciation & innovation of horology is doomed Alexander.
It’s not that I don’t think garbage exists, it’s that Oris aren’t that , it’s not escaped me that in life there are people who like to look down on others & take a shit on them if the perceive that their watch choices mark them out as the “lesser”, but it’s that mindset that really is garbage............not Oris.
Alexander Vic thanks for calling a spade a spade. This is an expensive watch launched by a sub par company - it’s almost Rolex money!! Absolutely incredible. The movement isn’t even in house and the 10 day power reserve is crap - for the last two days of that its +4/-6 a day!! Wtf
@@Watchlover371 what? The whole point of launching this watch is to showcase their “in-house” movement!
I don’t normally like skeleton watches, but this is a killer! Brilliant bracelet too.
Oris is making waves!
Liked it. Didn't love it. For $3k more you get a zenith defy el primero 21 skeleton
And for 2k less you can get a Zenith Defy Skeleton. Wouldn't even be a question which one I would pick.
Seems copying zenith a little
Бојан Павловић how’s defy being a terrible watch? I think it looks amazing, power reserve is not the only thing that matters.
@@doublekevyks7249 power reserve is a little bit overrated I think. Focusing on the skeleton subject, the whole defy collection is better looking than this oris. And that clasp....I don't know.
@@БојанПавловић-е3й zenith has all the heritage and it's a genuine in house movement vs a modfied ETA. Much better value than this Oris
I’m thinking this will be half the price at grey market dealers next year. Still, way too big for me at 44mm.
Aimed at Asian market...
i have a Oris small second which is 46mm and fits nice on my 7inch wrist.so 44mm titanium should be fine.
Still the twice price of what it should be. The finishing looks like that of a Seiko 5 movement.
Yes I agree with you there, the brand doesn’t offer value retention for the first owner but it offers a hell of a lot of watch to the second owner for the money, I own one & my experience of it wouldn’t hamper Mervin buying another.
I have seen and held it in person and can tell you this watch does not look or feel cheap. To compare it to a seiko is just ludicrous. Btw, for its size it actually wears very small.
Hey, only 40 people got invited and you were one of them, that's a pretty select group to be among!
I don’t know why I was included. But I’m happy to be the wildcard. 👍🏻
@@BarkandJack maybe they assumed you make decent coffee. ;)
@@BarkandJack
They wanted their fingers in all the pies, and you as a TH-cam 'influencer', and a safe bet for them (unlike Archie, who is currently whinging that you went and not him), particularly as until recently you were a marketing manager..
by all means in this price range i would go zenith defy
That is exactly what i said too and Zenith is a "better" brand
but 10 days power reserve? you are paying for that.
@@jaseb0001 Zenith isn’t an independent brand like Oris.
So, it wasn't Ginault that you were visiting :)
Are they the fake Rolex guys?
No, this time he got paid by Oris
I feel like Oris is definately one of the brands to deserve more recognition.
You are not honest in your review, you dont like this watch because the size, the clasp, the finishing, the price, the movement and then you try to turn it around because Oris has paid for your trip and you try to explain why we should buy this watch. You should speak from your heart and not trying to bargain with yourself. Just keep it real.
Hi Carlos, thanks for watching mate.
I think I was 100% honest with the review which is why you know what I dislike about the watch and I didn’t suggest anyone to buy the watch, I simply highlighted who the watch maybe for. Cheers, Adrian
@@BarkandJack plz don't mind Carlos. He's been watching too much of Archie's shitty channel for too long. Your content was as always, accurate!!!
I appreciate how you can give an honest review even when you receive a free round trip ticket to an awesome event. This is how the channel will grow and why people will trust/respect what you do. Good luck!
Thanks so much mate. I appreciate you taking the time to say that. 👍🏻
Megatron wants his watch back.
It's gorgeous... absolutely gorgeous. But at $7k, it's in the big boy league. You can pick up a second hand sub for similar price and it will hold its value for many years, whereas this might not. Oris 65 holds its value well. It's one watch that surprised everyone, and a nice little investment. I just hope this does the same as the 65. But it's sharp angles might not be to everyone's tastes.
Oris is my very first love into horology, will alway hv Oris timepieces in my collection.
The buckle evokes an airplane seat belt buckle
*L I F T*
Why would you print that on the clasp, wtf?
Another great review. I have to say I have seen a couple of reviews on this and I have slowly fallen in love with it. The price is still a sting (for the brand), but not for the watch if that makes sense. As for getting people like yourself involved, hands on, makes sense. You were very measured by the way 😁
Thanks Mark.
Wait a second, +6 and -4 is the exact cosc standard. So it technically IS a cosc standard! Great piece. Clasp reminds me of an airplane seatbelt. Very cool aesthetic.
Wait a sec, it’s a 12 day power reserve so when the indicator gets to 0 there’s 2 days reserve in the tank? What’s the point of that? If they’re making such a big deal about the movement and 10 days, why not state the full 12 days? That doesn’t make any sense or am I missing something?
"That doesn’t make any sense" - legend has it, this is their marketing catch phrase for this watch.
How much CO2 did that jolly generate? #ClimateEmergenecy
Interesting final few points from Adrian:
- If Oris can come out with a BB58 competitor
- Improve accuracy to be COSC certified
- Reduce price
Then Oris may have a winner…
Now in April-2022 the 39mm Propilot X is released, checking off all the boxes!
Hopefully you get a chance to share your thoughts on the updated version
I like Oris as a brand but not sure about this one at £5500.
I can see what they are trying to do. Following in a new era trend which is happening now "The Techno Skeleton watch" Audemars Piquet, Maurice Lacroix and now Oris.
It's just too big at 44mm. A classic 40-42mm watch case with this avant-garde finishes trying to be Techno should have been kept on an aviation leather strap with that Amsafe quick-release safety buckle from a Boeing plane. That might have worked. But then the bracelet looks like it a '70s Gerald Genta design, that doesn't fit the case design. All a little bit too much.
If the watch runs -4 to + 6 sec it is COSC spec. But the thing is that it should be able to stay within that range for 4 - 5 years to prove very higth quality an not just for 2 - 3 years. We will see i the future. About the size. Most people will get use to it, but the very good tjing is that is it titanium. It must feel lite, and because og the size if it is being worn a little tight, then you properly won´t feel the size at all. But you can see it. a 12 days full powerreserve where it proberly runs very stabile the first 10 days is remarcebel. Perhaos if the make it run 2,5 HZ and not 3 hz, thy can get it to run for 10 days but have a 40 - 42 mm case instead.
Personally i love how the clasp grows in size again, from the tapered down bracelet.
The looseness of the bracelet is concerning, but has to be experienced in person. To me it really looks like a concept drawing fearlessly executed.
Great video. Love Oris, but would honestly buy a Zenith Defy if I was looking for a modern / technical piece like this. Looking forward to seeing what’s next though!
The first view got an audible WOW! from me. And I don't like skeleton watches. This is a 21st century take on the Genta style of watch, and I think they have got it right. The price is high, but not ridiculous. Oris are being brave but not stupid. The future releases will be interesting.
Rolex owners worry about losing value in their watches because thats probably the only asset they have. This Oris belongs to the brave ones the real winners of life.
I love oris as a watch company there value and quality are amazing but this new oris isnt for me to big and skeletonised but the movement is awsome 👍
Love Oris, dislike this watch.
FINALLY!! A watch that looks like 2020
Way too big for me, but I look forward to what ORIS has in store for next year. Love the industrial vibe of the movement.
Bloody hell the editing somehow just keeps getting better and better. Very glad you were given the opportunity to go on this trip!
He was essentially getting paid a fair bit for this review, so he put extra effort in...
I tried it on yesterday in Zurich... I found the fit really nice but the sensation of such a light watch disturbed me a little
I’ll wait until I’ve seen one in the metal before forming a definitive opinion. However, at this stage, I’m pretty much convinced the lack of decent finishing has been occasioned by cost-cutting rather than any particular design narrative, and positioning this watch is the circa $7.5 range is utterly ridiculous. I think they’ll need more than just the support of social media influencers to shift these pieces at retail, but we shall see.
If you like the look (which I don't) better get a Zenith Defy. You must be high to pay almost 7K$ for an Oris...
Oh, come on. As a more respectable reviewer who wasn’t bought off by a trip to China would say, “This watch is a shitter.”
You think he’s respectable? 🤣 Good one.
Maybe he thinks it’s shit because he’s upset he wasn’t invited and also has never see one in person.
You mean the Brisbane-based reviewer ? :)) He's not respectable at all, and he would have loved the paid trip if it had included Beef and Reef pizza !
Not for me Adrian...the skeleton look is difficult to read and at 44mm it is just too big.....but promising moves and direction from Oris.
I agree. I think the watch is secondary, the primary thing is the move for oris. Thanks for watching buddy. 👍🏻
I think that looks absolutely superb. But I don't like titanium so much..... and the price is just way up there. Not sure if I can warrant that cost - half that and I'd be cancelling the next planned purchase and be waiting for that!!
It looks awesome. I want one.
Not gonna lie, this has a “Fossil” vibe
LOL
Beautiful Oris. I did not personally like their designs but this one is a new chapter for them imo. Bracelet could have been finished a little better though.
Adrian, I've enjoyed you and your videos for quite some time and I appreciate the quandary you are in but I must admit I am beginning to question your overall credibility . It gives me no pleasure to say this and I do so in the hope that you will back off a bit so I can continue to enjoy your channel. You are obviously far more popular than when I came aboard so I understand that you may decide to ignore me but still I wanted to let you know where I am coming from. Thanks very much for your efforts and I wish you well no matter what you decide going forward.
Hi Daniel,
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. I’d love to know what is causing you to question my credibility?
Feel free to email hello@barkandjack.com or just comment here.
Cheers,
Adrian
I have to say that this was once my favourite watch channei, a few months ago, but I've really lost interest too. It used to be 'you talking about watches', which was great. Now it feels much more corporate and about marketing for big manufacturers. There are so many channels doing the same thing and its not interesting, but good luck and i admire your move but it's not for me.
Ok. Bold statement from Oris. But as he said pilot watch has to be readable. Skeleton watches isn’t.
This watch should be in the $2000 range
It looks better then a rolex EXPLORER to me.
I might be a bit harsh on the criticism on this watch(this coming from an Oris fan boy), first of all the bracelet, I think it is a bit ugly, but the airline seat belt style clasp is a nice touch, I could always go for the strap if I don't like the bracelet. It is great that Oris is moving on to make in-house movements, but it does push the price up especially if think about the alternatives you can get at that price point. You can get a Rolex Milgauss or a Datejust 41 for may be less than the price of this Oris.
Overall I think the watch is great and it is good that Oris is moving on from making vintage style watches with Selitta movements to more bold designs and developing their own in-house movements. I shall look forward to what Oris has in store for us at Baselworld 2020.
Yeah the price is always going to be a tricky one. I think it’s a cool move if you ignore the price. Next year should be fun for oris, but let’s hope they keep the price down.
@@BarkandJack I hope so too 7500 US dollars is just too much, just watched Archie's video on it and I have to say I agree with him putting all the shouting and swearing aside lol😂😉
"Double tap the thumbs down button"
hehe
Its a beauty but too big and too expensive.
A very nice watch. But, I just don't understand why it has to be placed under the "Big Crown ProPilot" moniker and model line. It's nothing like what the have traditionally been. Yes, I get they say they wanted to try something different for the future. But, couldn't it have been under a completely new model line? It's like the TAG Heuer and the Autavia.. makes absolutely no sense to call the field/diver or whatever it is considered an Autavia when it is nothing like all previous Autavia models which are definitely motorsports chronograph design rooted. Other than that, it's a lovely statement piece.
Congrats on 60k subs bud! Cheers! I have 3 lol I always enjoy your vids! but this Oris watch doesn't do it for me....can't believe Oris wrote LIFT on the clasp :/
All the things you said, end link tolerances - not COSC and then you said the price is fair?
I guess that’s influencing shilling right there. But then then they paid for your bed and board, what else were you going to say?
I recommend the Bill Hicks sketch on advertising and Satan.
Great production as always Adrian, just not so sure I trust the words anymore.
I think this is a cool watch and a good size for my wrist but the price is too high for ORIS.
44mm on skinny Chinese/Asian wrists....
Why is everyone trying to hit the Rolex segment of the watch market? Seiko with their Prospex LX and now Oris? Brands should stay within their price range. Seiko within 300-500 quid with fun designed divers, Oris within 1.2-1.7K (GBP) range with robust bracelets and good ETA movements. The sub/GMT master/Explorer II market is where Rolex rules supreme and noone will take away their crown. Not a wise move, although I want to buy an SNR033J1 watch, but not this Oris.
So, this is the benchmark video, this is the start of the path down. Sorry but promoting Oris at this price point without any criticism is not believable. I would be careful not to lose your credibility
Hi Pim, there was a lot of criticism in this video. Maybe you didn’t watch it all.
@@BarkandJack thank you for replying, I do appreciate that and the only reason I responded this way is because I have respect for you and what you do. This video however is not as critical as you might think. Would love to discuss this with you, but maybe not in the comments.
Cool trip, looking forward to more vlogs of it.
The dial is dominated by the ridiculous power reserve
I have a problem.
Or maybe it's an addiction.
When I start down this horological road (first watch was when I was five years old. Santa brought me a Timex 'learning' watch. That was back in 1965)....I had one rule and that was to try and not purchase the same brand twice.
Enjoy all the diversity the watch world has to offer.
I'm not a rich man mind you but as we all know, you don't have to be filthy rich to enjoy a finely made time piece on your wrist.
ORIS is proof that.
ORIS made me break my cardinal rule.
I already own two Oris time pieces.
An Oris TT1 day/date (Bad ass case design I still find myself stating at) circa 2012.
And a ORIS Big Crown Propilot Chronograph i purchased in 2021....
And me thinks I have become an
ORIS fanboy 😃
Because now.... I have a undeniable lust for the Propilot X.
ORIS!!!!!
Leave me alone and stop doing what you do so well.
Real watches for real people...😁
INDEED !
Yeah....I'm definitely a fanboy....
And that's OK with me.
And thank you Adrian.... For doing what you do so well.
Be well......peace
clb..... the gafferboy!
You cant get a submariner SKELETON, sapphire SANDWICH! full stop... Im so impressed the its In-House! The only downside is thats it not AUTO. but awesome power reserve. plus BIG is beautiful. I was thinking about this or the new B&R BR05 skeleton. but thats and ETA movement. but really gorgeous (BR05). Poor mans Nautilus/Royal Oak.
@7:52 YES - CLASPs should integrate or be minimized as much as strong design allows. Who needs BULK under their wrist? Dials are such an area where design an be expressed that it's a shame they went for skeletonizing, which seems doubly unnecessary when the back of the movement is shown so well. Overall, its design suggests F1 racing wheels to me; the acute edges first made me think of the case of the Seiko *Samurai*, which is not a good thing at this pricepoint.
I’m honestly impressed with Oris. Skeleton watches are not my thing. But I’m impressed that instead of just resting on vintage inspired diver after vintage inspired diver, the put soo much energy into the design of something so bold and different. The price is high, but justified that they had to do so much RnD. Just like Omegas new $48,000 titanium movement aqua terra, it’s expensive to try something new.... glad you enjoyed your trip Adrian!
😂😂😂😂 sorry no way ! Is that worth that price ! It’s far to big 100m wr?? Who makes that movement?? There are so many great watches between 7-8k you would really have to have a soft spot for this for it to be your choice. 10 day power reserve?!? Why?? Just make it 3-4 and get it COSC certified. I love there diver 65’s but this is dreadful😪
Its hideous, like trying to combine octo finissimo, defy and keeping the propilot bezel...??.?? Really WTF .....100%flop upcoming, might as well dont make any fuss about it ... Also 10days recently design inhouse smells like needs a lot of testing ahead, and not cosc? Quite hard to make precise watch with that power reserve ...This is Oris not caring about their first clients
At 44mm it is a big watch, but the design is extremely interesting! Price, a titanium, skeletised with in house movement with 10 day power reserve for just over USD 7.5k....if this was Omega, Breitling etc it would be double, so I think it's a bargain!
Before vintage was a fad wasn’t the large watch a fad? Could it be they call it a pilot because it’s so large? Needing the extra space for the huge main spring? My opinion is that they’ve created something no one is asking for. Think about it... a five day power reserve is like wow, amazing! Panerai makes these but 10-12 days. Do you EVER plan on wearing it if you need it to have such a long power reserve?
The Oris Big Crown ProPilot X is a wonderful watch. The skeleton bezel is beautiful, the case is beautiful, the bracelet is fantastic , the clasp is cool and the transparent case back is awesome. I like the Oris ProPilotX. The ProPilot X cost less then a $10,000 Rolex Submariner and a IWC Big Pilot. Pilot watches are suppose to be big.
While I am a big fan of Oris, I just can’t like this watch. As you said, the design is too industrial and I’m not generally fond of skeleton watches, although I admit that this one does a better job at least of showing the hands.The movement is impressive, but I don’t buy watches for the movement, as if I could afford it anyway. But I especially dislike the size. As I’ve become more knowledgeable about watches, I’ve come to appreciate smaller watches, particularly in dress watches or every day watches, The big exception being tool watches. As to Oris’ ability to market such a watch, there are some pretty big questions. I just watched Federico‘s video regarding this piece, and while I’m know watch marketing expert, he is, and he makes some very reasonable sounding comments. I am betting that or us will be selling these watches out the back door at half price within a year. I’d like to be wrong because I do like Oris.
The watch I'd like to get my brother for his 60th. Exceptional - Funky Elegance. Superb video, great music, real journalism.
Hmm.. I'm a fan of Oris and really admire what they have done with the brand over the past few years (BTW The CEO seems like a really nice guy, too) but I am not convinced by this model. I hear what they are saying about preparing for the next big thing but not sure how well this model is testing those waters - 43mm, titanium look, skeltonised. Most brands have those t-shirts already. Whatever they do it should still have Oris DNA in it and I am not really seeing that here. I do wish them well though and they will still be on my Radar :)
Hi I'm John...I'm a massive Oris fan...I have owned the Oris 65 and now I have a aquis 43 ...I'm not sure what they are smoking to produce a watch like that at that price ...that's Rolex money, submariner or explorer in the old references I think that they are completely nuts ..they are the entry level swiss 1k to 2k champions you can't beat them at that price ..I'm sorry but what you have reviewed there is possibly a wrong turn for the company
You mentioned Tudor.
And infact the industrial finishing of the caliber 115 in the "X" reminds me of the caliber MT5621 inside the Tudor "North Flag".
Its really cool watch, I think the pricing of this is good imo, yes you can get a submariner for the same price but this is unique. I wish it was smaller than 44mm. The bracelet looks great and the clasp is awesome. Oris are a great brand and with this release am really looking forward to what they bring to baselworld 2020👌🏻
The watch looks like something out of a Dr Who film.
Not elegant and probably not intended to be so but it's still pretty ugly. Unfortunately, there are shed loads of chinese specials out there which ape this style. In fact this is venturing into Invicta territory.
It is way too big, it is garish and it lacks restraint. Real style always hints at what's underneath, holds back and doesn't flaunt. This watch lacks class and it is as simple as that.
Seven grand? I think this will be withdrawn rather quickly. Frankly, this undermines the brand. The success of the Oris 65 has been tainted by this.
I think Oris need a new CEO.
Completely agree about making the 65 in-house similar to the Black Bay would kill.. but I'd also add... loose the faux aged lume color! Just kills it for me personally. As far as the new Oris.. design executed very well for what it is but not my thing.
It is a nice watch, but not my cup of tea. I don't mind a watch with a clear back cover showing it's workings, but on the face... that for me is a big turn off. Mind you, a ten day power reserve is something special.
Would the movement allow for smaller watches as well? As in, could Oris put this new movement in a smaller case?
Let’s hope so.
It’s kind of like an expensive SAAB car - the likes an architect would buy - looks cool but arguably a waste of money as worth buttons in 5 years time or possibly go out of business !! Oris should stick to their market of making excellent dive watches at really good prices
Way to many comments on here referring to “price retention” stop for a second and think “ Do I like the watch” and will ya spend over 6 K sterling on it???? My answer , nope on all counts, best part of the watch is the movement .. ends there... great review though, ya moving up the ladder Adrian.
Quite an ugly watch. Actually looks like a freak. Looks like something you would find in a $5 market. Why would Oris release such a large watch, in the asian market. So bizarre.
Let’s get this right, it’s a cheap construction, sand blasted Titanium, outsourced movement, not COSC. It’s ugly. Paul Plutas review is accurate.
This is a really interesting looking watch. I am not a fan of the bracelet but for me the real stopper is what else can I get at this price point? I know you mentioned a few brands but I think I would rather have a number of Omegas or GSs before the ProPilot...and save a bit of money...but I agree this is a fantastic move for Oris. Fantastic review, thank you Adrian.