Spotify Related Artists (How to get Fans Also Like)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ก.ค. 2024
- Spotify related artists are somewhat of a mystery, and a lot of artists want to know how to get that 'fans also like' section on Spotify. Another common problem is the related artists are often entirely wrong. So how does this section of Spotify work? In this video i'll give you some tips to push it in the right direction.
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My "fans also like" includes one of the rare people I really dislike 😂😂😂😂
Just started having artists this week in this list. Took a year!
Great job, congrats!! I'm still working on mine xx
I stopped trying to get on playlists and recently I’ve noticed that the random artists that don’t sound like me are starting to disappear and now it’s starting to get replaced by big artists in my genre and it’s kind of exciting to see 😎
Thank you for that close up sniffle at 1:05 😂Really great content as always man!
Haha glad you noticed! Thanks!
Blew my mind
I skipped back a couple of times because of that haha
Legend! Thanks for this info and thanks even more for the close up sniff!
i've been wondering about this for so long -- mine were whack for years, too, and then finally changed like last week after a few months of FB ads :) cool vid!
Dude you make the best content ever thank you so mucj
Thank you so much for this! I guess the key is consistency and just keep trying different strategies.
just when i was asking myself this question! great video
This was a very informative video! I was always wondering the how, crazy that they factor in things off of Spotify to generate this.
Thank you bro!
Bro your content is super good. Thanks. I followed you on Spotify, music 🔥
been running steady facebook since I found your channel six months or so ago and have generated a fans only like just in the last month! I've only got 3 other artists so far, but goes to show that the facebook ads are starting to bring in the data needed to generate it.
How long did it take since you started running ads?
Daaaamn you just came out with this video as I was looking for answers ASAP LMAO 😂
once again great video
This is what Spotify wrote me a while ago after I didn't understand the relation between me and the Fans also Like section .It’s currently not possible to edit the artists that appear in Fans Also Like as the feature isn’t manually curated. It’s determined by algorithms that use a combination of your fans' listening habits, what’s written about you on Spotify, and music discussions and trends happening around the internet
My "fans also like": Poppy, Scarlxrd and Ghostmane
My music: lofi
That 1 song which broke everything: Demon spectres screams a feature verse and spotify thinks I am a scream rapper
1:05 is my favorite moment in internet history.
Had it a while back, mostly artists that were in the same playlists as my song. Then it dissapeared again.
I also see Jon Sine on yours, another youtuber.
Moving on my Fans also Like is a little weird.
I basically promote my song on FB conversion ads for Spotify.
Just after running ads for US, UK, AU(main areas for my genre), the section got some famous artists with the same genre. But after running ads for all countries available for Spotify, all the artists on the list disappeared.
And a few months later (today), the section suddenly got 20 artists. They include some artists who seem not to be grown (less monthly listeners than mine) and a few famous artists. All of them look having the similar genre to mine. And I'm on a list of one of them.
Another possibility is that people who watch Tom Dupree videos watch yours too because they are interested in music marketing. They then also are more likely to listen to his songs on spotify and yours too. Spotify notices the connection (via Spotify not Web crawling) ..
Yeah thats true! We make similar TH-cam content and do similar styles of music, so makes sense people might watch us both and listen to use both.
I just started getting this list to populate, and they got it absolutely right the first time.
Nice!
Just discovered your page - really helpful advice dude after seeing a few of your videos - would love to know if you offer consulting 🙂 thanks!
Thank you for this video! I literally just got my Fans Also Like section for the first time, but it only has two other artists in it. I’ve never seen that before. They are also a bit different stylistically. I hope that with more data, these will update :)
Yep usually when it first appears for some artists there can be between 2-5 ish artists
Then as you feed more data the list grows and changes usually updates every couple of days and shifts artists around
@@Gary_.2k ah ok got it! Thank you!
@@alexroma159 Yeah, we only have one and it's been one for a while. It has appeared and disappeared before, but this time it's been staying.
@@Gary_.2k how many folllwers do you need to get a fans also like?
@@Thedestineeofficial it's not about followers really as long as there is a concentration of listeners streaming your music with other people's music you'll develop that section (so if a playlist has a consistent amount of listeners you'll develop s radio based on the other artists in the playlist
My account was linked incorrectly to another artist with the first release and later when the fans also like appeared I had that artist there...
Hi Andrew, I’m trying to book you for a consultation. I know you booked up. When do you open new slots?
I swear I was gonna google this about 2 hours ago but just forgot, don’t need to now
I got it for two days and it disappeared... 😭
How much do you spend a month on Facebook ads?
My music has been out there since 2014, i have over 200k streams, over 3k followers i’ve been added to plenty of playlists throughout the years and i’ve never had the “fans also like” and I’m really upset..
could you do a video on actually making the creative for your ads? I really get stuck on this. Also, what do you suggest for someone who has some decent songs on Spotify but they are not performing that well because they didn't promote them that well when they were released?
What we did is pull one song down and re-release it as a test run before promoting a new release with Facebook ads. You get all of your playlist, streams and save data but Spotify treats your song like a new release and you get another 28-day Release Radar opportunity. The only main difference is that you can't pitch it to Spotify for Artists for editorial playlists.
Another approach we are taking this fall is to re-release older songs with a new mix. The song has to be different enough from the original that the algorithm won't see it as the same song. We will likely re-record the vocals and replace some of the drum sounds. It doesn't work to just run ads for older songs because part of the popularity score is the historical data from the first week and first few months after release. It's really hard to overcome that if it's bad.
Andrew did do a video on how to make the ad creative. You have to look around at the titles of his videos to find it.
Ayo I also found out that since I'm called "leftover", the fans also like section is filled with artists who have food related names. It's 100% genre unrelated and it sucks. I hope I can get some legit artists in there asap lol
Young L3X is also in my fans also like section. But the only connection i can think of is that we both run fb ads ??
is it okay if i wear my PJs to the premiere. it's not like i have a date.
mine just came though today actually finalllly
It’s a good sign for sure
@@theochunck it's very encouraging cause all the people in my fans also like have either been in the same label as mine with releases or playlist, etc
IMO Spotify is prioritizing web crawling way too much. I stopped running ads around Christmas and my FAL reverted to a bunch of artists that are listed alongside me on a songwriting website where I posted music 15 years ago (under my real name, the same name I still use). Totally killed my algorithmic discovery. Took weeks of running ads again to repair the FAL. Spotify support said they also use what you put in your bio, though who knows how much that is weighted.
Bro I got 30k profile stream's on spotify and I still haven't got my fans also like 😢
🔥🔥🔥
Yep took me a year and 2 months to get 3 similar artists...
Is it possible that the suggested artists could change in the future? My style was a bit different back in 2010-2013 and I got assigned to some artists who are not so similar to my current music, or even don't make much music anymore... But it never updates.
Yeah mine and my side project's have changed a few times. It definitely updates, so if yours isn't updating it probably means they don't have a new set of artists for you. However I can totally image that if you have years of data for one style it might be harder to 'undo' that data.
Does “fans also like” improve your streams. I just got a song on the radio and it gave me my first “fans also like” and it could th have been better the bands I was pumped in. Will I see a higher stream rate now that I have FAL section?
How many followers do you need?
Hypeddit or LinkTree? And why?
I got a fans also like section. w/ Crystal skies , Nurko , & Jason Ross. on my second release. Don't know if this benefited me at all.
I have 20 artists in my fans also like section actually. including the ones I said above. However, Im not understanding how this is something worth caring about EDIT: genuine curiosity. not being a smart a$$ haha
My fans also like come and goes. I had one for months, but dispeared and then came back just for one day...
I've been running facebook ads for the last two singles I released and just got my "fans also like" tab up on my spotify page but the related artists are completely whack... I've been running my ads like Andrew has described and based on my analytics it seems like the traffic I'm bringing in is quality people... but I don't understand why my related artists are so off? Anyone else experience this and have anything they changed to give Spotify some better/more accurate info??
One factor to related artists (according to Spotify) is what artists appear immediately before and after your songs in playlists. In order to control this, we created a bunch of personal playlists with the "right artists" next to our songs and put them on repeat. It also helps to put a couple of them on your profile, too. We put it on the artist's pick in-between releases.
Interesting
They definitely pull show data as well, I've had a lot of artists I've been in the same show with show up in there
Yeah it could be they web crawlers search for your artist name and see it on show lineups across the web (social media, website pages etc). It also could be after the show people who listen to that artist go and listen to you, and people who listen to you go and listen to that artist. I know when I would go to shows and see new opening bands i'd always look them up after the show and listen to more.
@@AndrewSouthworth for sure, they integrate Songkick directly, so I’m pretty sure their webcrawler’s are keen to Bandsintown, songkick, eventbrite, etc
Hi Andrew, I recently connected my website domain with facebook and was running ads but facebook told me that my account was restricted from advertising due to policy issues. I have tried to contact facebook but I have been unsuccessful and in order for me to submit an appeal, I have to verify a business but I am an artist so I do not have a physical business. Does anyone know how to solve this so I can continue running ads?
Yeah, this happened to us with our last ad. It's just Facebook's algorithm being retarded. You are a business because you are a recording artist. You are a sole-proprietor.
Just wanted to ask here to see if anybody could help me , so my narrowed my group to “Spotify Fans WHO MUST ALSO MATCH with Drake fans” , i have tier 1 countries in, but still it seems theirs “view contents” without any streams . Im so confused . Seems like everything is functioning but the streams simply wont add up. Can somebody please help me on what I should do?
The biggest reason this usually happens is because you used automatic placements and everything is going to audience network. Don't use Audience network. It's all bots. Other than that, we usually only get about 10 to 20% of visits to the landing page to convert using other placements. Some people get a higher percentage only using IG stories.
Andrew have you ever run into the situation where most of your links clicks come from low cost countries country like India or Mongolia? Is this something to be weary of or do you just omit those countries all together.
Andrew has recommended in the past to separate them. On release day, we usually make an adset just for India and other traffic-sucking countries and put a daily limit on it. Any country you see sucking all of your traffic, like 4,000 impressions going just to Vietnam in one day, put it in there. It's worth editing the adset and putting it back into the learning phase to do this because Facebook is learning the wrong thing when this happens.
Do you see any type of data where you could see if being in someone’s recommended list brings you followers or plays?
I bet it brings you a small number of followers and streams, but I can't imagine its much. There isn't a statistic where you could track this though.
Probably the biggest reason it matters is that you won't have any algorithmic push without it. The "fans also like" triggers the Radio and Radio recommendations (your Radio can show up to people who aren't following you) and Daily Mix plays. It is likely directly connected with Discover Weekly in the sense that you probably won't get pushed by Discover Weekly without a "fans also like" because they still don't know who to send your music to. I think the "fans also like" is a clue that the algorithm has the data it needs to find your listeners, so it's a big deal just for it to show up. It's a step to a bigger audience.
I need related artists to have my artist radio, I don't think I'll ever make it
Once you hit a certain threshold of engaged listeners, you may just get one related artist. That's all you need to get a radio. It's just your songs and that artist. When we first started running ads, one related artist appeared after we submitted a new song for release. Then it disappeared after the first weekend of the release. Then it came back with the next release and we've had it ever since. We are still hoping to get more. We got a decent Release Radar push this release, so we are hoping we get more artists this time. We didn't have any for a year before all this, so be patient and keep promoting your music.
In my case this thing went really weird, I promoted my first song using playlistpush and the song got about 5K streams, a month later the Fans Also Like showed up, then when I realised that playlist promotions wasn't working for me and started using facebook ads the Fans Also Like disappeared for half a year until last week when it showed up again but with different artists lol
haha I bet what happened was you got on some very consistently styled playlists so they could easily figure out who you were related to, and then when you started using ads you were sending different types of people there which broke their model of who they thought liked your music and then eventually those people outweighed the playlist people.
Hey man do you recommend playlist push?
@@DeeDubStyle619 Not at all in my experience, you may be lucky and get a decent amount of streams but engagement will be low, you won't get too many saves let alone followers
@@lost_valley good to know, I used submit hub but overall wasn't worth it
Hi Andrew what distributor do you use? How do I release a collaboration so that the song appears on mine and the other persons Spotify page? I use distrokid
Maybe you could create a small videos on how to upload a collaboration song?
Hey for distrokid where you put your artist name make sure you put an '&' symbol after your name then the artist you're collaborating with. 😊
@@olivernewmusic thank you so much mate, appreciated
@@itsWilliamOwen no problem. 😊✨
do a video on TH-cam ads
I actually did, about a month or two ago if you look at my video uploads.
@@AndrewSouthworth I already watched it bro I been binge watching all your videos for this e.p I’m about to drop u got sum good knowledge 💯🐐
Hey guys. I ran my first FB ad campaign, spent about $135 and got 25 cents cost per result. How should I feel about that? Is it too bad?
No thats in the 'good' range. I usually say 20-30 cents is okay, 10-20 cents is great, and if you're near or below 10 cents never stop spending money haha.
@@AndrewSouthworth haha thanks a lot!
Mine disappeared like few months ago
Yeah that happened to some artists I have access to on Spotify for Artists. I'm guessing new music caused the model Spotify had to be incorrect, so they removed it until they could figure it out again.
Forgive me but I'm still confused
Weird, feel like I've always had the related artists list on Spotify. They are pretty much all in the right vibe for our genre, but somehow there's some really, really underground unknown bands with barely any followers/listeners that are on the list and I do wonder how Spotify connected us to them lol.
Spotify says one way they do this is based on what songs your songs are next to on playlists. So, if you got on an editorial playlist or even Release Radar or were added to user playlists, and a significant number of times it was next to artists like these, that would do it. You can control that a bit by making your own user playlists and putting your songs next to artists you want to be associated with and then promote it to your fan base and get other people to play the playlist. But your "fans also like" usually won't be super big artists even if you do this.
Fans also like "The March Divide" on my page and I have way different music than you lmao
I triggered fans also like with about 1,000 followers, 900 monthly listeners, 16,000 total streams and 4,000 total listeners. And I use Facebook ads. One step closer to figuring the algorithm out lmao 🤟
Thanks for sharing! haha. For my project Murder Nite I think it was about 500 followers, 5-10k monthly listeners and probably about 60k lifetime streams.
@@AndrewSouthworth that's super interesting! We'll figure this music game out 👍
Oh, that's good to know - we got our first one with 250 followers, 100 playlists, and 300 saves but then it left and came back a few times. We currently have 994 monthly listeners and almost 700 followers, so I feel like we're getting close.
@@onyxxproductions8187 I would definitely say you're almost there assuming it does the same as it did for me. Thanks for sharing super interesting 👍
the artists in mine are very similar to me 👌🏾