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Had mine for a little while and love it. The handle feels good to me in stabbing and chopping. However, my hand size is different and I love Bowies!
The swept-back handle is designed for Sabre grip. That's why the drop point survival has a straight handle it's more of a do all knife. Whereas the drop point Bowie is designed to be a fighter. The drop point Bowie is for SNAP cuts where you use the saver grip instead of a hammer grip.
That makes sense, but it's still uncomfortable for snap cuts.
You are getting an awesome 52100 blade for cheap but you have to make your own kydex sheath and new micarta handle.
This is actually very cold steel
Good to hear before buying it. I have seen historic Bowie blades where the handle is in a similar angle, but was sceptic anyway.
Maybe if you hold the handle only with 3 fingers, like you often see with bushcraft guys. They often chop with this flicking motion.
I love my Drop Forged Survivalist! The steel holds an edge like nothing before, the handle, although it looked/feeled a little short at the beginning (because of the pommel), I now love the haptics of the knife. I had to dig, chop and baton with it on two fatwood hunts I did last Friday and Saturday. The edge didn't suffer any damage, after a little stropping it was like new. The tip held up sendsational to prying. The coating only needed some water and a wipedown, only some minor scratches on the coating, nothing to write home about.
The only knife I have that held up so brilliant is my good old Trail Master in Carbon V. Man, this knife is a real beast, too!
Ok, the Puma Automesser I was issued at the Bundeswehr is as sturdy as this two Cold Steel blades are.
#22aday
Stay safe everybody, and stay blessed.
Greetings from Germany!
I'll give that a shot. Thank you Kong! :)
@@Jimislash
You are wellcome, as allways.
Being a khukri user, the handle is butter for me. It lends to the hacking and maneuvering in my opinion. It might just be a hand size issue tbh
I have the survivalist (my first real “survival blade”), the drop forged hunter (my favorite bush crafting knife), and the original 6 inch bladed drop forged bowie (which found to be more of a “shank” than a large enough woods knife). Overall, I find the curved handles on the drop forged bowies more ergonomic than the models with straight handles. The way it give the blade forward sweep in hand makes it excellent for tactical application as the blade sweeps forward with the wrist held in a more natural position than with straight handled blades. That finger choil also makes it easier to choke up for finer work, and the 9.5 inch bladed bowie is also longer than the survivalist for easier use in brush clearing and fire prep, like battoning wood. I got it because I wanted the functionality of the survivalist, with the ergonomics of the smaller 6 inch drop forged Bowie. As for chopping, add a wrist lanyard and that handle sweep makes it a great chopper. I pair it with the DF hunter, and those who blades serve pretty much any need I can have for a knife in the bush or campsite.
It's a fighting knife meant to be held in the Saber grip
Thanks for your fair and honest review. I think all of us have been excited for a knife based on the photos we see online, but then we end up disappointed once we get it in hand. Great knives work for most people, but a lot of good knives don't work for a lot of hand sizes.
I handled it a bunch at Blade Show. But actually using it was a bit different.
I just found this video and TOTALLY AGREE WITH ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING YOU SAID. I own both the Drop Forged Bowie and the Survivalist and MUCH prefer the Survivalist. The Bowie has a short and VERY awkward handle on it. I can say that I actually HATE the handle on the Bowie (I don’t have a Cold Steel sponsorship). The handle on the Survivalist is far superior. The ONLY thing the Bowie MIGHT be good for is wild boar hunting and if I ever do that, I’ll bring a spear not a knife. Mine just sits in a drawer now.
Awesome video! I love cold steel’s stuff and I have the survivalist “ awesome knife “ The fact that you’re honest about their product even though you like what they put out is awesome. 👍👍
Try it with a Saber grip and not a hammer grip. It'll do more damage that way than the survivalist if you smack a bad guy, because the blade will present at an angle kinda almost like a kukri.
it's a fighting knife my friend. cut when you have to but on any occasion that it's available make sure to thrust. sorry to have to edit this post but also make sure to hold a Bowie knife in the saber grip if you're fighting for your life. I've never fought with knives only guns but that's the way I've been trained 🤠
I'm sorry Jimmy I know you did several hundred knife reviews in your time why are all the sabers that were fought with in the past 200 300 years why do they all have slightly downswept handles it's so when you strike it doesn't come out of your hand they're made to fight with they've evolved over hundreds and hundreds of years this nice not designed to cut up your family's dinner it's designed to cut up the man that comes in the house after your family has gone to bed. keep up the good work I love to see a fellow Cold Steel man making videos. no offense but I'm too busy using them at work to make any videos but I love watching yours. keep up the good work my friend anytime anywhere
Cool information! Thank you! I appreciate the kind words and the info.
I still like the old school coffin handles on Bowie knifes. Never had any problems with one flying out of my hand or being uncomfortable. Like the blade shape on that one though. Still waiting on some Hogue reviews!!!
The handle doesn't have enough girth, and being as it is one solid piece of steel, there is nothing to absorb the shock transfer. It is a fighting knife.
This with a straight handle and decent scales would be an awsome cheap bowie
It's super durable. I am going to give it another shot in a fighting type test. But I need a little different handle for hard use. However, if it fits your hand, it's a monster.
Wrist work with the arm and shoulder is what makes the difference with the types of blades that historically has been given to us all..! All good brother man.
Oh, ok. Cool. I need to give it another try.
Cold Steel has been my favorite brand of knives since the 90's. That Drop Forged Bowie looks solid AF. Cuts, and stabs like a beast. I can see the issue you're having with the handle; it's geometry is off and the shape may actually transmit more energy towards the hand and wrist. But I'm not a physics guy and been drinking Jamo before watching this vid. Is Cold Steel still using that sheath material that dulls a knife? Haha meat boot! 🤘😆
LOL! They still use the SecureEx sheaths.
The handle looks like it’s got a decent shape for chopping, but it’s too short.
To make it a really good chopper, you could grab the handle towards the back and that curve would make it just as devastating as a khukuri because of the curve… but it’s still kinda short. If I designed the blade I would’ve made the handle 5.5 inches or maybe even 6 to give that extra real estate for the hand.
Still love this knife JS! That handle works better for "me" than most of my other knives... Go figure? Still love the video bro!!!
Was thinking about this knife but I ended up going with a kabar BK9 because of the handle shape. The bent angle on the knife handle looked like a wrist beater. Straight handle or 90° for a froe is the only way to go. Banana for the win. keep making sharp things fun and enjoyable.
My next fixed blade knife! Thanks for the review. It's the first review I've seen on this particular knife and... SOLD!!!
Nice!
I could tell before you even said anything that you we're not feeling the knife. It's a nice knife, but I can see the handle issue. I really like the survivalist in this line up though. It chops really great. Razor sharp
I'm late to the game. I have one of these, and I think the answer to the grip issue may be as simple as making some new, wider grip insets for it! I'm going to give it a go.
Oooo...wider inset grips. I like the way you think.
I got one a couple weeks ago. I already owned the older model drop forged bowie with no scales and old style paint. I first thought it was the same knife, just added scales and newer paint but this model has a longer and a little wider blade. I haven't had a chance to use the new one, but I agree with you on the grip. It don't feel like it would be comfortable for chopping. I Still really like it alot though. Still a very usable knife. I own all of the drop forged series except the wasp and my favorite is still also the survivalist. I own 3 of them 1 old style without scales and 2 of the newer ones. For the price they were last year it was a no brainer. The hunter in that series is also a very usable knife.
Thank you for the info. Good stuff.
The Bowie looks awesome.
Josh, I appreciate the honest feedback as I'd hate to buy this one and hate it! I'm not seeing positive things moving forward with CS. They need to hire you full time to get things straight as stick man has no idea.
It depends on what their new ideas look like.
This one had potential, just can't come to like the handle. Loving my marauder though so that's the redeemer..
Hmm; imagine a drop forged version of the Marauder! 🤯😭😍😍😍
@@MrFomhor That would be great! Only thing I didn't like about the marauder is the aus 8. Non stainless steel version I would buy!
That is why I like my first Edition Drop Forged Survivalist. Its straight handle is better suited for chopping, stabbing, etc. I did order a Counter Point 1 today. I look forward to receiving it soon.
@@MrFomhor now that would be a worthy product.
@@acr4809 it would be nice to have a choice of stainless or a high carbon steel. I have the Aus 8 full serrated version and it's definitely no slouch. The Cryo quench on the Aus 8 when done well gives the steel similar properties to a high carbon steel. This includes edge retention but has the added benefits of low maintenance on the blade. This kind of treatment has been done well on a lot of cold steel knives (kobun for instance) and even on the sog seal pup. Both knives are very well acclaimed for that reason. Maybe in future editions they will give us a high carbon version or maybe even in a well done D2 steel.
Hi there,
Maybe if you wrap the handle will absorb shock that is transferred to your hand
Yeah, handle is a bit short either but wrapping it might overcome that drawback at least on some extent...
Try wrapping it and redo the testing ...
I have it wrapped. I'll redo it soon.
@@Jimislash I can't wait to see it !!
All the best !
Wow I like it
I've always liked that handle shape and my hands are medium/small so there'll be enough room for "me" to maneuver that handle. Was looking for a good large, camping all purpose knife and THAT particular one, fits the bill perfectly! Great review!!!
Great! I'm glad you found a blade that worked for you. Always nice.
@@Jimislash not cool on hurting your hands though. What might not work at all for some, might work pretty well for others! Such is the case here. Great review though. I'm glad I saw it. It helped me make up my mind...
it hurts wrist because no handle material to disperse the vibration. If it has kraton or rubber handle, it will feel much better.
Try a Saber grip it'll put less stress on your wrist during your chopping due to the curved handle
Needs a different grip like a pinch grip maybe. Definitely don't want a solid wrist.
Bowies are better designed for stabbing and slicing. And especially one with those ergos, I wouldn't expect it to be good for chopping or batoning. It is what it is, it was designed by a knife fighter for that purpose. Right knife for the right application.
Good point. :)
Like 👍the knife design like a Trailmaster
I love the Handle! That’s why I’m looking to buy it???
I think you hit it on the head when you mentioned the curved grip. This knife has a kukri style handle on a Bowie style blade, and that doesn't work. The kukri works because it concentrates force over a small cutting area because of the curved blade. Instead, with this knife the point of impact is spread out over a larger area due to the Bowie's full flat grind blade shape. This dilutes the force generated by the curved handle over a larger area of the balde and results in the jarring felt upon striking. By contrast, the Demko Rotten 'Nanner concentrates the chopping force over a MUCH smaller area.
Wow that's a nice Bowie. I agree, the handle looks nice, but you can tell trying to use that thing for anything serious is gonna hurt.
Not that I'm an expert on Bowies, but a lot of historical ones had either a very neutral handle (the coffin shaped being the most famous if not necessarily the most common, though a very simple, slender handle was also common) or they had a much gentler angle on the saber style handle. The BRKT Bowies, when they're available, use a Moran style handle or have that as an option and it doesn't have that angle. It's not straight, but it's a lot gentler curving than this.
The other problem is I don't see how this design is supposed to lend itself to a full handle that has a good design in the dimension that crosses your grip.
This isn't a bad idea for a knife, but they should have done a neutral handle or a Moran style and I'd have gone with micarta scales. Real Micarta > Fake Stag, and that way you could contour it and give it good ergonomics.
My local hobos deserve better.
Lol, yes they do. The Moran on this would be awesome! (I had to look it up). :)
I have the survivalist and love it the Bowie not so much thanks for sharing Jimi
Very welcome.
Wow! Now that’s a chopper lol
Great looking bowie! I like the faux stag gives it that old school look. Great review 👍
Thanks 👍
Great intro
The angle of the handle should make for a comfortable chopper. Not sure why it’s causing problems. Maybe the size? I mean, you do have some catchers mitts for hands. 😂
Lol, that may be it. And it seems like the angle would help, like on my competition chopper. But it doesn't.
Just something about bowies. That's a Knoife LOL 😆
Lol
Interesting, this is David Anderson’s knife of the year as of 1 day ago, Dec.21/2021
I don't trust him. Small hands. Smells like cabbage.
@@Jimislash 😆
Yeah, I don't like this one too much. Thx for showing!
Thanks for watching!
Now... THAT'S A KNIFE!!
...bought one of the older discontinued golden colored DF Bowies
'belly shaving' sharp -or hobo brisket slicing sharp
Lol, both!
Good, truthful review, thank you!
Glad it was helpful! Thank you for watcing!
Great video I wonder if they handle was too skinny and that's why it was hurting you I'm no expert just a thought I had
That might be it. I may wrap it to check.
Can you do the cold steel chaos bowie?!!!
not everyone likes 1911 pattern pistols, not everyone loves glocks - people out there with hands smaller than mine do fine and are extremely proficient with full-size semi-auto pistols like browning hi-powers but struggle with sub-compact sigs and berettas that are supposed to "fit their hands better" - the same is true for knives - It all comes down to what feels good and what works for you - nothing can make up for poor materials or poor craftsmanship, but any decently made tool, whether it's a knife or a pistol needs to bring confidence and joy to the user
Good points. Full-size Berettas give me fits. :)
It is designed to be held in a saber grip. That's why it is hurting your wrist. You are using it in a way that works against its design.
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He says it's great in a saber grip, but every time he does anything but stab with it, he's in a hammer grip or reverse grip. Certainly, if you are getting this a self-defense or knife fighting, the saber grip may work for it. Any other use makes it uncomfortable.
The brisket didn't stand a chance. Hope your wrist feels better.
Great looking knife. Love bowie style but I get ya, its got an awkward angle to the handle.
Awesome for a beater BBQ blade to cut some brisket.
Definitely!
It looks to me like the Survivalist is the way to go, just all around better at stabbing, slicing or chopping. I do own the Survivalist it cuts everything great. Never chopped with it but I imagine it would do just fine. Plus I've seen Donnie B All Day chop with it and it did awesome!. So I'm good with my Survivalist, I'll pass on the Bowie.
Nice chop and slice!
Love the look of it though
Me too.
Can you do a review of the chaos bowie? It's got a bigger blade than this one!!!
it is not a bushcraft chopper -it is Apache like fighting knife
Yeah, but most folks don't use their knives for Apache like fighting. I was trying to see how useful it would be in a non-Apache like fighting situation.
@@Jimislash 😀 true. You are rights of course. I just saied about the design od this knife.
Peace
@@jaja-nw2ft I like the idea of this as a Bowie fighting knife, if the upper edge was sharpened. That would be awesome.
All they have to do it put back the original handle shape lol
Badass!
1$ tennis racket grip wrap resolves 99% of grip issues people complain about with tools and weapons.
Maximum badassery! Too bad the handlle wasn't more comfortable
Yeah, it was a bit disappointing.
Am I able to sharpen the false edge?
It'll take some work.
I think it's your thick hands. I have smaller hands, and the curve of the handle is great for chopping for me. I think this design is great, but not for everyone.
I think you're right. My son, who has normal hands, didn't mind the feel of it.
THAT ROTTON BANANA IS ONE MEAN MAMMA JAMMA!!!!
Yeah, it is!
Great video sir 👍 👏
Thanks 👍
I see some brisket slashing in the near future for that blade LOL yum
Good 👍slicing
Thank you! Cheers!
One piece goodness! Love it! #22aday
Need the silver eye review badly xd
Doing that tonight.
Lynn likes indigenous style blades and handles from other cultures!!! This handle doesn't look like it belongs on a bowie!!! I think people will struggle if they hold it like a westerner!!! Kinda like how there's a disconnect with machetes parang and kukri, and people that love them in the west have to relearn how to use the tool like an Eastern to be effective!!!
I'll have to check some videos on how to do that properly.
Those are some nice cuts there! 👍 🥩 🔪
Thank you.
Is this knife available to buy in india
I don't know. You could contact LSSO and ask them.
So is the drop forged bowie a new cold steel knife?. Did it come out this year 🤔?.
This version did.
@@Jimislash 👌
So you proved it is a fighting knife. That is what it was designed for.
Ordered three of these trying to get a good one. All three I received had warped blades leaning hard right. When you look down the spine the blade is super wavy. Whoever is doing the forging should be fired. Sucks bc I wanted this for the collection.
Yea Im not liking that handle too much 😬 i like the survivalist knife better! Would be fun to slice that meat up though lol!
It was. :) Thank you for watching.
@@Jimislash well yw! 😊Im way behind!
You’re supposed to hold that style of handle in a saber grip, not a hammer grip like you’re doing
So, is it has to be a self-defense knife? Not comfortable for other uses.
@@Jimislash I'm not sure that it's only good for self defense in that grip, but it's to facilitate wrist action on your cuts etc. But I actually have one of these on the way so I'll have a better sense of it in a few days, and I will let you know if I come up with anything useful.
Hockey tape the handle. That meat looks real good.
Is Jimislash making RINO or Rhino steaks? That's the question.
Not RINO. :)
That’s one fatty brisket, must have been good.
If your spear bounces off the wild Buffalo horn, and you put all six revolver shots at the charging beast, you can always put yourself out of misery before the Buffalo does it for you!1
Lol! It was good. Chopped up nicely.
Thats not a kniofe… this is a Kniofe!
my toe hurts :-) .....
Lol!
Seems to be too thin in handle
I think so.
@@Jimislash I have larger, meaty hands and didn't find it too thin personally. I did wrap it in paracord after awhile just to see what it felt like and that might help you get a better grip. You have to let the curve of the handle fill your palm. You are holding it like it was a hammer with a straight handle.
@@Fardawg I'm glad it works for you. I wish it did for me.
Doesn't have the feel of a Trailmaster
No, it doesn't.
wasted a still decent boot :D
I do these things for you all. :)
@@Jimislash you are too good with us :D
It's a shame the handle is not ergonomic for what it looks like it was designed for, chopping. And being built into the design like that, you are stuck with that angle. I love a Bowie blade, but I'm going to pass on that one. Thanks for being honest, and not some shill who will never say anything bad about their sponsors.
The handle is too short
I don't think it is. My hands are large, probably around Jimmy's size, and it is fine for me. Just don't use it like a damn hammer but grip it in a way that takes into account the saber grip design.
I love the look but after seeing your review I'm starting to think Cold Steel needs to stay out of the bowie business. At least not at what they are charging for them. I like the looks of all of them but quality has been subpar. At least that one is sharp. I'm my stop in over at Lonestar after a trip to Fuzzy Tacos soon and check it out and give it a chance.
Cool! I'd like to see what you think.
Nothing wrong with the Bowie at all. It is meant to work with a saber grip. You have to take the handle design into account when chopping.
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