The Rusty Jaguar Frame Gets Removed, Welded, And Cleaned For Some "Frame-Off" "Restoration"
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ค. 2024
- Rusty frame. Dirty underbody. It's time to take the body off the frame. Or, more precisely, take the frame out from under the body. I use wire brushes and some rust treatment to clean the underside, weld up the rest of the frame, and get it powdercoated.
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I just like to add that the number one reason I'm such a fan is the fact that you never, and I mean never, resort to sarcasm. 🥰
the lowest form of wit. but the highest form of intelligence. Oscar wilde.
I am enjoying it.
@@jonathansmythe6273 I have to disagree, I think it's the highest form of wit as well. But that's just me.😁👍
what we've learnt is that you dont actually need to be a very good welder to be good enough to keep a family car in more or less one piece for 70years
that or british car technology is generally shite !!!
Entirely depends on who's driving the family car and where doesn't it?
@@80spodcastchannel British cars are known to rust out all the time and their electrical systems are bad *cough* Lucas electric *cough* also their engines kinda suck, oil changes would come together with new head gaskets.
@@poptartmcjelly7054 nah, you've just been lapping up the mythological prejudice sauce. it's only true in certain cases, just like the cars from any other country. except germany.
@@daos3300 your kidding right. German cars rust out just as bad as other makes.
Owned 5 of these, including A REAL barn find on farm of deceased estate - had not seen daylight for 21 years. With careful cleanup, it later won Australia concors for Best Unrestored/Original - rego RMX-035. I also rescued others destined for scrapping. Found drop head in another barn.
SU electric fuel pump - common British fit for the era with SU carbs.
Sits nicely on road at 80 mph.
Gotta love “clean and black with a hard candy shell”. 👍👍😎👍👍
Rich rebuilds could learn a thing or 300 from this channel. 👍🏻😁
This is going to be such a neat elktromod when done. Thanks for sharing it with us all.
Yes! I’d love to see a collab!
Rich rebuilds would probably love a collab such as this, 2 talented youtubers who are going to go far
Box fan + furnace filter for secondary dust mitigation is a great tool to have laying around. Just shop vac the filter once you're done and put it in the corner for the next time you need it. Can also be used for avoiding over spray on those quick jobs you want to do in a closed space.
Good idea, I might do that help with over spray next time i paint.
Every household in CA should have this for wildfire smoke! (If not something better.)
@@csn583 not sure it could handle that volume or particulate size. I find it loads up rather quickly with a standard furnace filter. They sell special filters for painting if you'll be doing a lot of it.
Really enjoy watching this non-restoration. Your attention to detail and personal cleanliness is remarkable. Keep up the good work. Paul
Thanks, will do!
Hey. You should spray inside the frame rail tubes too! There might be some rocks and dirt and mouse poop and nut shells and stuff in there. You could pressure wash the bottom of the car too. Less dust that way.
6:45 also known as massive rust traps, every old car i see with a plate like this has rust problems in places like these.
Don't forget to coat enclosed spaces, they make special sprays with long hoses that you stick into holes to squirt goo onto the surfaces of tight places.
3:55 No need for the middle frame when you have the structural battery pack 😂
Now my favorite build on TH-cam!
Keep up the great work!
I'd also recommend Project Binky, if you don't already know it. Not as quick and a whole different vibe, but a solid, solid build. Cheers!
I love the dry humor!
YES I WANNA SEE THIS BEAST READY
Technically, this would be a restomod, because some aspects are being restored to a functional state, while others are being modified to improve them. My vote for the color is Ford's Piano Black. It has tiny crushed mirror glass particles in it so the sparkle is real. It's like looking at a starry sky. Unfortunately, the number of shops that actually stock the toners and suspension media to spray that are few.
"I know my welds aren't great..." You know the old saying: a grinder and paint make me the welder I ain't!
This video deserves way more views. I am subbed and belled. And it didn't even show up in my feed! not cool TH-cam algorithm - i'm watching this series!
Very jealous of your built-in tool boxes Matt. Looks fucking mint! 👌
Enjoying this build, can't wait to see it under power.
You're channel became an instant favorite.
I had to make this comment about your welding:'Umm yeah, okaaaay". Brst I can do cuz you haven't seen my , eh hem, "work" with a welder!
Keep up the "good" work
Favourite part of my week is when you upload
I only recently discovered your videos Matt and I have to say you are currently on a score of 100% lolz per video. Thank you.
Gosh, i watched all the Jaguar Videos. Never did Car work, probably never will, but enjoyed the videos and dry humor a lot!
If you make them a little longer or bit more in detail i would still inhale these. Good stuff!
Sweet Matt - I was waiting for this one!
I found your channel couple of days ago and love it!
Great show! "ropey" stuff is welting
Well paced and interesting
It would be funny to do one of those old hot rods with this kind of drivetrain
You could go for the classic exposed-engine look without an engine XD
that is some big progress on the prep front.
Great narration.
Just a warning. A rubberized undercoat just causes the moisture that gets trapped to eat away at your frame and metal a lot faster. Doing that to my SUV even after I removed the rust and added a rust reformer and primer my frame got messed up by rust caused by the undercoat holding water.
That would be a fantastic hot rod.
All grill and no motor.
Funny but not really...
Cheers Matt, this is going to be excellent. 🙄😊👍
I'm going to have to drive it around without the hood on for a bit, just for the curious looks
This was highly enjoyable, save for the moment you said less heavier. If you look up positive, comparative, superlative in the context of adjectives, all will become clear. Heavier means more heavy, so less heavier is ever so slightly inelegant meaning as it does, less more heavy. (This is probably not the origin of less is more, nor is that concept universally applicable.) ;-)
You missed another title opportunity:
Frame off jag off
like
Pants off dance off
You need a headline writer IMHO.
😃
My day has been made!! :)
Not sure where you are with this project at this point, but for the future basement jacks with a few 2x6's lagged together and a chain fall makes short work of body lifts like this. That is how I figured it out back in my parents 2 stall garage almost 20 yrs ago, and I have helped others do it several times since.
Compared to my welds yours are freaking beautiful.
you can put some expending foam in the frame to protect for corrosion
Love the commentary! xD
My folks had a 1950 Rover P4 75 cyclops vehicle - the car had a single fog light in the centre of the radiator grill - which also had an electric petrol (gas) pump - believe it was an S U pump - I believe that most English “upmarket” cars were electric fuel pump equipped
Two post lift 😂 that was clever
i came here for the tesla swap, i stayed fir the dead pan dark humor
I love that in every video he uses music from 0:53 which is from Polish chemistry handbook for 13 years olds which became a meme
Interesting project. I love Jags me! One thing I have noticed about their lines is that you can find certain shapes that run through a lot of different models and decades, echoing their ancestry; almost like DNA. I think the coin you found was possibly a sixpence ( 6d ) from the size of it. It will be silver in colour, a penny is twenty five mm or more in diameter and a halfpenny is about twenty mm across from memory.
One could call it "Frame-Off Renovation"
By the way, what are your plans for the looks of the car? Keep it rusty, make it shiny original, give it a Hot-Roddish Look or...?
At first I'm just going to leave the paint as is, but I would like to do a new gloss black paint job at some point. I'm also considering dropping the top down two or three inches. Nothing drastic, just bring the tall roof line down a bit. Shine up the chrome. Should look pretty good.
@@SuperfastMatt Sounds like a plan to me!
Did you consider rust converyers POR15 and/or Miracle Paint? I used both 30 years ago when I restored my 62 XKE OTS and 56 XK140. The metal today is exactly as it was then. Amazing!
I like Por15; I used it on my S600. The Ospho was the recommended rust converter for the epoxy primer, so I went with that here.
Engineering question: Do all the added metal to the frame, bracket, and mounts add much lightness? St. Colin the featherweight would rapidly rotate in his final resting place.
yes a lot of the British cars used Electric FuelPumps a old Stereotype was that Brish cars had alot of Electrical and / Or crappy wiring jobs but actually they did have a lot of rust issues and often those would led to interrupted circuits using the body or frame as a Common ground or Positive Circuit for the Vehicle then people often jury rigged fixes by running whatever Wire they could scrounge up to make whatever circuit work that had the short i’ve had quite a few British Roadsters because i lived inFlorida for many years and running around in Convertibles was always fun one time i had to rig a temporary wire from the engine Compartment to my Fuel Pump mounted in the trunk an i had to buy a cheapOrange ExtensionCord from a Hardware store to get me home my Da was hysterical when i pulled into the Driveway because i just taped the cord to the outside of the car for a 4 hour drive it got me home and i think that Vehicle was a Positive Ground but the Unibody had a lot of Rust
Body off frame is a foreign language to me
Cries in unibody jeep
Watch me refrain from telling you your welds aren’t great.
I will say that they are better than mine. Aloha! AHTA!
CFC's ?! .. I think you haven't yet come to terms with British production. They had some quite advanced technology for the Victoria era. And pretty much stuck with that the next 100 years. The carpet and underlay etc is probabky pretty much 100% sheep carcass.
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Love the KTM Duke 690? in the background - tells more about you're bike as I'm a huge Orange Clan Fan have a '18 790 Duke & a '20 890 Duke R.
Melrose?! I just had some gates done at Melrose. Are you in Oakland? I'm really enjoying your channel. Keep up the good work.
Really enjoying these videos. This is a dream of mine, but I may just have to live this one vicariously through you. Don't know if you have mentioned it already but does this project have a projected time line for completion or are you just taking it as it comes?
Just sort of taking it as it comes. Hopefully it will be in reasonable driving condition by the end of the summer. But, I still want a paint job, new interior, and lots of stuff that will probably drag it out to the end of the year. Ideally I'll have a new project by the beginning of next year.
How did you find TIG welding outdoors - any issues with the shielding gas blowing away and not doing much shielding?
In the slightest breeze you lose your shielding. It was a calm day and my driveway is protected from the wind on two sides, so it wasn't bad. But I wouldn't recommend it with any wind at all.
I love the shape of this body.
Teach us about suspension geometry, car regidity and other thing you master but we simple mortal don't
Many electric fuel pumps in the forties and fifties in the U.K. Easier starting because the carb is full before it rotates. I changed my 1991 Ford van with pinto &carb to leccy and it starts better :o)
If you put a shop vac under the plastic might have helped keep the dirt more contained, especially if you run a bit of PVC storm drain under as well opposite the shop vac to get some air flow through, better for you and might help keep the area clean.
Me, I just try to do shit like that outside and let the rain deal with it when it comes
0:07
The term implies a frame-on restoration as in you didn't need to service the frame as in it was not a significant restoration
Put the front grille on and drive it to a hot rod meet with the engine bay just empty
Matt, by any chance do you know Jared Pink? He sets a great deal of store by making questionable decisions on a regular basis. Oh, the Jag is looking a great rustoration! It really is! FR
I couldn't upvote twice damn you TH-cam, I currently live VERY near to Browns Lane in Coventry so if you ever need pointless pics of the shambles it currently looks like, let me know 🐷
I think that would add could this already quality content.
That's no turd! "Fossil" maybe.
more dirt removal footage...LOL
what a jag-off
is the battery case a structural item? also, i'm pretty sure the old X-brace would have helped somebody else restore an old MK V. jay leno was right. for once.
The center part of the X brace went to a guy restoring Mk Vs, along with all the other parts I removed. The battery case will increase torsional rigidity, but probably not as much as the X brace did.
@@SuperfastMatt good to hear!
you talk funny funny man
40% Dirt by volume - I laughed a lot at that...
Bump
My brain spent too much time fully considering the implications of both sandblasting and powder coating...
Jaguar made there frame and chassis super stiff to let them have a softer suspension setup
Did the frame bend from the welding?
It didn't seem to, but I won't really know until I put it back under the car. Even then, there's so much slop in the mounting that it might not matter
@@SuperfastMatt great! Thank God for good old british engineering. Can't wait to see this project "finished".
Fun fact: Did you know that removing the carpet full of "uncut CFC's" does nothing to get rid of said CFC's. They still exist and still do what CFC's do...They might not be in your car, but they still exist. Just saying...
the turd is in very good condition
"It's actually phosphoric acid...be careful"
Wtf Coca-Cola
Removing the big cross in the middle of your frame, whose purpose is to help with torsional rigidity, to give its job to a big lithium battery, is a good start to win the Darwin Award. If I may suggest, I would go with natural color for your casket.
Science seems to play a very small part in the activities of American car enthusiasts. I'm trying to imagine the behaviour of the batteries. Do you think, gravity being what it is, they'll skew out of the underside or spring through into the interior? A speed-hump on a tightish bend might force the issue. This could be a whole new chapter in those tedious "humorous" insurance claims.
tesla battery packs are structural.
@@daos3300 Tesla battery packs are structural for Teslas.
@@beentheredonethat6885 i would certainly hope so. ergo, they are structural, or to be more specific, the cases are. how much that will help in this car remains to be seen. some extra bracing may be required.
@@daos3300 "Some extra bracing" is not very precise. Will the battery pack separate from the 70 year old chassis or will the chassis sag away from the lightweight, non-rigid coachwork? Plus there needs to be consideration for a total change in the centre of gravity, vertically and longitudinally. The weakest link will betray this cobbled-together chain in very short order. Repairs will be a never-ending sequence.
Why do you hate air compressors tho???
You might not have welding porn quality welds, but it looks like they have good penetration and they're sturdy enough. That's all that counts.
phosphoric acid cant be that bad for you as its an ingredient in Coke (replacement for the cocain maybee ?)
depends on the amount
@@williamschultz298 i guess thats true of everything
Concentration more than "amount" is the key here. Not that cola is not bad for you, but as Project Farm recently demonstrated its acidity is dilute enough to be quite poor at rust removal.
@@csn583 i love project farm (i was only joking about coke)
Why do you hate air compressors?
When you Forget to unplug your air compressor and it turns on in the middle of the night because you have a small leak in a brand new air compressor, it scares the shit out of you. Ask me how I know...
They take up space, they're loud, they're always leaking, and I hate running hoses all around. Lithium cordless tools have pretty much negated the need for air tools. I have a small cordless pancake compressor for airing up tires and my nail gun, but it won't move nearly enough air for sandblasting.
I suppose if I lived somewhere that had lots of space, and I had a non-leaky compressor in a corner with air drops, I might feel differently.
@@SuperfastMatt I got a Kobalt quiet 26 gallon vertical compressor for about $350 and would recommend it, it fits in my single bay garage just fine, and I can't imagine working without one- I've used it for paint jobs and impacting (the electric impacts never seem to be able to perform as advertised), and it doesn't bother the neighbors. They've gotten much better over the years- although the hose does get annoying.
"non rust" is also known as Iron(III) oxide
this guy is cheap but i love it
You have a very interesting project that you are working on, but I hope you scrap the idea of chopping the roof line. You are dealing with one of Britain's most elegant cars, and it would be disastrous to sacrifice its stately grace for such a crass butchering of the roofline. Formulaic and useless reworking of the body so it has less outward visibility has to be given a second thought.
Body off, not frame off. The car body comes off the frame.
not if the body is stationary and the frame is moved away from it.
Old cars could kill you, new cars can kill you. All Hail The Algorithm! AHTA!
It’s a little bit demoralazing that, apparently, in order to make great TH-cam content you not only have to be professional in what you do but you also have to have Netflix special worthy comedic talent as well. Anyways *sigh*, great content.
you spelled jaaahg wrong
Damn too slow for first comment.
So close
Interesting video and project, spoiled by compulsive silly comments every minute or 2.
you criticise the original welding - then do some TOTALLY shabby welding !! dafuq ??
person employed by car manufacturer to execute welding on high end production vehicle - vs - random dude in garage.
I was all excited until I realized you were ruining this car by electrifying it. Yuk!
Still don't understand
Why you wouldnt sandblast frame first!!!
I've been at this for 40 years now ...yikes
And not sandblasting first and powdercoating later???
Powder coating is as only as good as the prep! And leaving inbeded rust scale is not good prep🙄
The frame was sandblasted by the powdercoating company before they coated it.
what i don't understand is how you didn't understand that nobody would - or could - powdercoat an unblasted, completely clean, piece of metal. or how it obviously didn't have layers of crap under the paint. ok, i'm being a touch uncharitable.