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- This is from the documentary. Check out the guitar parts Daniel Lanois finds from the song, and if you're patient you'll see Bono grimace at hearing himself singing. It transitions into With or Without You, a video I uploaded a while back. It's got other stuff too.
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34 years after, I m always listening these songs with the same feeling ......... happyness
100%. With or Without You floored me in 1987 and to this day Joshua Tree is my favorite album of all time. People seem to talk about this period of U2 as somehow annoying or whatever but I loved it at the time and I love it even more now.
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Amen brother. Courtesy of my Dad’s cassette, this was the first real album I listened to aged 12/13 and really shaped what music I listen to today
I can still remember when I heard With Or Without You the first time. Late at night on the radio when I was sixteen. Now I'm fifty and it's still my favourite song ever. It changed my life. I love how they felt different. I felt that way too. And hearing With Or Without You I knew I was not alone...
I was nine when I first heard wowy...same magic struck me :)
I am a few years older. I remember driving to the mall to buy the cd the first day it came out. I saw the Joshua Tree concert in Montreal and 30 years later saw their anniversary tour in Vancouver. Amazing album.
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That infinite sustain guitar with the harmonic shimmer from the Eventide unit and the TC 2290 mod delay. Now those sounds are standard in multi-fx units because of this record. I'm sure a lot of people buy Ebows to get those sounds.
Me to!! Was amazing time!
Lanois is mesmerizing. I could listen to him all day.
I agree The Joshua Tree is timeless. Certainly doesnt sound like an 80s record.
We know who to thank for that!
If not for Dan's involvement, they'd be in clubs as an angry, matured Irish 'troubles'-based band.
2:07 Edge’s power summarises the whole identity of U2, even if you’re not a fan you should still find it familiar. Iconic sound
Edge is unmistakably the genius of the band
Lanois you mean… without him and Eno, Edge would still be a single delay guy.
It was all there from the start. Listen to 11Tick Tock, Electric Co., Ahn Cat Dubh, the Ocean - am the atmosphere, dynamics, chimes. Eno and Lanois helped them develop. But that band had it from their first album.
The original recording is a half step higher than the final version of the song. Daniel goes on about how exceptional it is to have a tenor hit that A pushing a B with regularity... and then they slowed down the song and the pitch drops a half step. Rick Beato just did a "what makes this song great" and expains the details..
Beato is awesome
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Beato makes me like songs I did not even know where master pieces
Rick is defiantly one of my fav youtubers. Almost always watch his new vids before anything else.
There is something charming when a musician has a hard time hearing themselves. Humility is a musicians blessing/curse.
They cringe because they want it better. If they didn't cringe, we never would have heard of them.
Daniel Lanois is a freakn visionary in sounds and composition. He has that sense of arranging so songs last for ages. On first listen u think its simple, but listening over and over again u get to discover a deeper appreciation and love for it.
3:22 I love how Lanois tells Bono "I know you wanna talk but let's just listen a little bit". And he obeys! I bet there aren't many people able to make Bono shut his big gob.
You have no idea who Daniel is, this guy made U2 along with Steve Lillywhite during their early 1980's. They produced their albums which means you follow their orders, they don't get paid for babysitting the Band. They get paid to get sale results, this is why sometimes the band hates the songs because they can't play them live. Look at this song it requires 6 people to play properly live, so they cut out a lot of the parts on the concerts ( acoustic part, auto pan, roto sound, synth). It's why Daniel is still producing their albums.
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Oh, you were so close. In interviews with Daniel he says that the band started to create songs in the studio instead of walking in with ideas. It was the music inside, Daniel and Brian brought it out. The band, Hansa studio, Berlin, plus Daniel and Brian.
@@danfuerthgillis4483 💯 tho Danny and Brian haven’t worked with them in many years. A HUGE mistake in my opinion. You are absolutely correct
To paraphrase Bono from his TED Talk; "That's a [French Canadian] telling an Irishman to be succinct."
U2 during the Lanois years is magic, full of timeless wonders that people will listen to forever. For all you who enjoy these song I tell you, listen to Lanois' albums Acadie, The Beauty of Wynona, and Shine. You will be impressed beyond words.
David, long time Lanois fan here from Canada - check out "Here Is What Is" album.I believe it's his best. Simply amazing it will hook you after 2-3 listens.
Thanks David!
Adam and Larry played on Acadie around the time that Robbie Robinson's solo album, Joshua Tree, Yellow Moon - Neville Brothers was done in New Orleans in his studio in the French Quarter. I think he was using an Amek console at the time. I think these days, Lanois uses a Neve with a Radar digital recorder. Only digital recorder that functions/sounds like a tape machine for him.
Bono said it had a highness to it. I've always heard them as soaring. At 16 in 2009, I saw them on the 360 tour. During where the streets have no name I was sure the mech-spider stage setup was going to transform into a spacecraft and jettison outta there. It was cool as shit
i remember hearing this song for the first time in the barren winter of the Texas panhandle and how it really struck a chord with me fresh out of high school and how the world laid at my feet! Nobody sounded like U2 and the journey of life began! I will associate this band with that forever! Atmospheric sounds still pulse through my veins!
Me, driving up a mountain with my daughter and some of her friends to go camping...majesty and the beginning of a great journey!
Two professionals! Lanois and Bono are both masters in their fields.
They had two in a row at that time; "The Unforgettable Fire", and "The Joshua Tree". Both of these albums have no time stamp on them. They can be played now in 2022 just as easily as they were played in 1984 and 1987.
That "Edge Power" track sends shivers down my spine. :)
yes indeed, stroke of genius
Basically the soul of U2 ..
The Joshua Tree sounds like nothing else and that is why it is so special. It takes me away every time.
U2 are a straight-up gift from God. Full stop.
This is one album that truly didn't belong to a time. I'd say that The Unforgettable Fire is like that as well.
My two favorite U2 albums.
One of the best songs ever. And I love the video, with them walking through gritty Downtown Las Vegas. They were big but they weren’t yet HUGE so they could still get away with filming a video like that.
Still gives me chills....
I still need another album with Lanois and Eno, please do it guys !#!!.
If you're looking for a good Lanois collab with Trixie Whitley, look for 2010's Black Dub. Saw the show at the Opera House in the east end of Toronto in 2011...brilliant show. Lanois is such a chill guy - ran into him when he was coming back from dinner break after sound check. His engineer Mark Howard was mixing FOH for the show that night (he used a Midas H4000 console with an L'acoustics VDOSC line array) and he's also done some production work on his own. Look for Diamond Heart - Ladies of the Canyon (great road trip record)...saw them live in Guelph years ago.
Don’t forget about Brian Eno here…. Lanois, Eno and U2 were magic together!!!!
Yes, They listened to ENO & Lanois and transcended what was "popular" subsequent recordings paled to that
Daniel is amazing. Totally unique sound and total commitment to the song
IMHO probs their greatest song. Also strong vibes for me being in Vegas/NV as a kid for the first time around time of their vid
Such an amazing producer. Peter Gabriel, Robbie Robertson and of course Joshua Tree.
i have been looking for those specific glasses for 24 years !!!!
They’re one of his best pairs
I guess you still haven't found what you're looking for?
They are Alain Mikli 3214 sunglasses
I played the crap out of Joshua Tree and Achtung Baby when they were released. Not knowing at the time - Lanois made it happen. I'm Canadian and hadn't even heard of Lanois.ive been making up for it ever since. Daniel's "Here Is What Is" album just kills - give it a listen. Brian Eno speaks is there in several tracks. Simply magic. magic.
Achtung Baby is a very close 2nd to Joshua Tree. Very close. Both are perfect albums
If you haven’t already then you might check out Bill Flanagan’s book U2 at the End of the World.
Lanois and Bono were at loggerheads a fair amount early on during the Achtung sessions.
He wanted to conjure the old U2 sound.
Edge and Bono were moving on.
Eno was back for Zooropa and Passengers.
Lanois was not.
They’re clearly fans of each other and there’s no question that Lanois played a massive role in three of their biggest albums to date at that point.
I just find it interesting that they moved on without him for a time.
“Not many people can sing in that register.”
It isn't really a different register, just a different pitch, perhaps he is blending some head voice into those high notes to sweeten them but its mostly chest
I swear those drum beats that Daniel talk about at the beginning were used on Desert of our Love.
They are, Desert Of Our Love was also known as Weather Girls
Daniel processes sounds, stores information, and edits at an incredible pace. His ability to sift through ideas and navigate a group through to the top of the mountain is peerless.
An absolutely amazing album. Easily in my top 5.
Thank for post this masterpiece.
I still love Edges' power
Thank you for posting this! The song always give me goosebumps.
Love you, U2.
The Joshua tree is absolute genius, for its time and for any time I believe. I remember the day it came out and the feeling it gave me: playing music, playing music, playing music
2:11 Cool how they did that edit so you can hear the varispeed.
this is a treasure.
I love this song because of Bonos voice is wonderful and the edge knew how to play the guitar
great stuff man.
Much credit for the bands success goes to Daniel Lanois and Brian Eno
Indeed......and the band have always agreed 😎👍
I don't know, if you watch them Live Under A Blood Red Sky at Redrocks, its pretty clear how talented they already where back then
@@csilt That was produced by Jimmy Iovine and engineered by Shelly Yakus, the same team behind Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers Damn The Torpedoes. I think it was the Rolling Stones Mobile Recorder that was used to track the show at the Red Rocks in Colorado (correct me if I'm wrong about the Stones Mobile).
Much of the success of the Joshua Tree not of the band in general.
Don’t know how else to say it:
It felt like the Holy Spirit was working through U2’s music in those early years up through Joshua Tree in a powerful way.
I don’t know exactly what changed, but though the music was still great, the themes got darker and the sense of the Spirit felt diminished.
But those early years through ‘87 were magical.
“I know you wanna talk but let’s just listen” this is why they haven’t made a single amazing record since they stopped working with Danny and Brian. VERY stupid that they haven’t been working with them.
Well Brian and Danny allowed No Line to be completely F'd up by 2 or 3 songs in the middle of that album. I still have no idea how that was allowed to happen. A truly amazing album marred by a few that had no business being there. To be honest there was a bit of a falling out during No Line which led to them using other producers. My hope is that Songs of Ascent is produced by Eno and Lanois. I think it would be a great closing act.
3:10 Did you notice:Bono seems to be depressed about Daniels comment...and years later Bono said that he's embaressed about his voice in most of the U2 songs
On his one... Daniel Lanois
What is the name of this doc?
9/10 you end up raising the key live. Actually, it's the direct opposite, singers drop the key usually a half step sometimes more than a step so the songs are easier to sing
Lanois is the 5th member of U2
Lol, of the Joshua Tree.
What is the exact name of the documentary this is supposed to be from? :-O
Classic Albums: The Joshua Tree
U2 did have that 80s bigness though.
At 1:40. Does anyone know how to create this "auto-pan" effect in a DAW?
That is basically an autovolume using 8th notes. You could do that manually writing automation or could use something like the oneknob. If you set the tempo correctly, it'll sync and do it for you. First 2 8th notes are on the left channel, second 2 8th notes on the right etc creating the ping pong effect.
There might be a vst plugin that does that
Wow Lanois looks sooooooooooooooo different here wut
I didn't didn't even recognise him!
"This is from the documentary."
U2 - Making The Joshua Tree - Full Documentary
6:51 Edge infinite guitar? I woulda thought it was Michael Brooks.
interesting...I love how everybody loves to bash Bono...
As far as vocals the Joshua Tree was the top for U2 and probably the end of their higher range vocals. With Achtung Baby you can see a lower key singing on almost all the songs. The Joshua Tree is a staple of U2 because it is their skills from 1979-1986 all combined into a new direction for the Band. To me there is no question about it U2 was dead around 1989, hence the new Pop direction.
Did you ever hear U2’s cover of ‘Night and Day’ in 1990? It’s vocally stunning and is a pre-curser to Achtung Baby’s style.
@@michaelgriffiths8068 Yep that was the vocal transition from the Joshua Tree to Achtung Baby. The drums, guitar fx are all there already which later were used on Achtung Baby. This was the last of ten 80’s high screaming vocals as the vocals were done at that time. They changed the vocal singing style for the new songs in order to match the age, on Achtung many of the songs are almost as if Paul Hewson is talking instead of singing ( Throw your arms, So cruel) hilarious music for someone who spent the 1980’s carrying a white flag and engaging with the crowd then unto the Zoo Tv madness which was a huge success with the all the digital crap shoved down our throats during the 90’s with the rise of Satellite Tv 😂. As far as “U2” they died in the late 1980’s, once the racks of gear started appearing it lost some of the appeal of the crowd engagement like the old days, the shows got too technical, too many cameras etc. Personally after the ZOO TV they should of said “Thank your for the memories we are officially retired” there was no need for POP Mart and other tours. They are simply too old now to pop out the hits, the guitars, vocals, drums even bass sound nothing like the old days, the switch to Digital consoles also broke their old live sound, you simply can not match old analog hardware with digital hardware with “Digital” representations. This is the reason why Edge still uses old Vox Amps, old rack fx gear ( Korg Delays) some of this stuff is what makes their sound, but the mixing is utter trash these days going to their 360 setup with the audio following them around. We need a Time Machine and head back to U2- Red Rocks now that’s a killer sound, loud, raw and insane.
@@danfuerthgillis4483 - fair enough, but Bono’s vocals on ‘So Cruel’ are beautiful. A more nuanced and technical delivery, without losing any emotion whatsoever IMO. Also, his Joshua Tree era vocals can still be found in ‘Who’s Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses’, notably during the chorus. The same tone as ‘With or Without You’ if you’re paying attention, just with more subtlety and inflection than before. Definitely a better technical singer on Achtung Baby than ever before, without sacrificing the power vocals when called upon….kind of the best of both worlds. Bono’s falsetto is also much stronger and versatile in the early 90s than ever before. 80s Bono could never have sung ‘Satellite of Love’ or ‘Lemon’ or even ‘The Sweetest Thing’ the way he sang those songs in the 90s.
@@michaelgriffiths8068 Yep that’s why I mentioned that the vocals ( arrangements, chorus, falsetto’s) we’re all done to take advantage of the newer voice ( his singing voice changed a lot by 1991). They still recorded the album on 440 tuning which is unusual by that time. Most of their songs were always recorded at 440 but then brought down to 432 for live Singing. These days they are playing even lower with capos, just natural time that’s all. Without or without you and Still haven’t found we’re recorded at 440 which is very high for those vocals and chords. Have never heard them play with or without you at 440 ever in live concerts and Still haven’t found ( which is played with a capo). Achtung Baby was a different beast, Edge went full board with the fx, electronic drums came in, Bass effects came in, and the vocals had to be arranged to fit the new style of song direction, more techno style. Achtung was their new sound style album in order to ditch their 80’s past, it worked quite well and by the time it came out even most U2 fans were older and ready to accept the new dawn of the 90’s and let go of the 80’s. The early 80’s brought U2 into the world, the middle 80’s made them a household name and the early 1990’s cemented their status it was bold changing their entire sound at that time just like they did in 2000 as well. These bands started in the late 1970’s so of course they can’t play as fast or sound the same on vocals or their instruments. Instruments today can’t even stay tuned properly at 440, cheap and light that’s what people want 😂. Still haven’t found really set the bar for U2 as it was a new sound that sounded nothing like the early U2 sound ( Memory Man and the fast note delays). Personally the worst thing about Achtung was the Bass work, it was not that interesting very plain nothing like the War or Unforgettable Fire. Adam used to have a funky slap bass sound but was not used that much on Achtung. Oh well time gets all of us, just sad that barely any music these days even gets me to turn the volume up 😂
@@danfuerthgillis4483 - yes, they certainly evolved. I used to be so upset listening to the Zooropa leg of the Zoo TV tour (the Sydney VHS show in particular), as it seemed that by that point, the power singing Bono was still using as late as 1991 (on Achtung Baby) and 1992 (Zoo TV, North American leg) had all but disappeared. I was perplexed if Bono could even sing ‘Pride (In the Name of Love)’ anymore the way he did on Rattle & Hum, for example (forget about The Unforgettable Fire)….or say ‘Bad’ like he did at Live Aid or the Lovetown Tour in 1989. I was perplexed because I wasn’t sure if it was simply a DECISION to not sing that way anymore, or if his voice had actually changed so much that he COULDN’T sing that way (even if he wanted to). The power vocals of ‘Pride’ and ‘Bad’ were sorely missed. Now I look back and can appreciate his 1993 voice much more. He still had a great lower register and timber (and of course the falsetto)…but something even worse seemed to happen to his voice in 1997 (the Pop album). Prior to that he still had that rich lower register we all loved (‘Miss Sarajevo’ on 1995’s Passengers for example)…but something changed in 1996 during the recording of Pop. He sounded nothing like Zooropa or Passengers just one year later during the recording for 1997’s Pop album. Gone was the richness of his lower register, and replaced with a scratchier, higher pitch vocal. Even his lower register sounded muted now. That fabulous timber had all but vanished. And those new Pop era vocals have stayed with him pretty much to this day, including all the albums since 2000’s All That You Can’t Leave Behind. Any thoughts on this? Or am I crazy and off base here?
Danny Lanois is the master and the boys are the students...too bad they didn't listen to him, wanting to make epic music....instead the public got increasingly lame music. The ghost of Danny lanois.
I love Daniel and U2 with all due respect though - Daniel continued to produce every U2 record but for “Zooroopa” (expect for the track “Stay” & “Pop” before returning - So he really had his hand in probably the most “epic” songs of U2 ever made. I know Daniel very well, and I am sure he has no regrets for anything he’s done with U2 - Nor do they it would seem. cheers 🥂
I hear Bono more as a 1st baritone than a 2nd tenor.
Like bob hewson, Bonos father, told him: “You’re a baritone that thinks he’s a tenor”.
I dunno, listen to his speaking voice, it has a pretty light timbre to it
I wish Bono would lose the glasses... and the "persona"... he was a good lookin' guy back on this record! Young and passionate, too... why you wanna go and be a lame-o? Somewhere in all their rockstarryness, they got kinda lame. Sad, really!
About the glasses.. he has glaucoma, if you watch the video from Original of the species you will see how hard is for him be without the glasses. About the persona i total agreed.
@@ricardicolas Glasses aren't necessary for glaucoma. Most people with glaucoma take eyedrops and theyre good to go, without even needing to touch sunglasses. Bono uses glaucoma purely as an excuse to sound less pretentious. The real reason he wears them is because he thinks it makes him look cool.
@@ChiliCheeseNips Then why did he wait so long (2014) to announce he had the disease after being diagnosed over 20 years before he made it public? Each case is unique. Some afflicted with the disease have hypersensitivity to light and need to wear shaded lenses. You claim "most" people afflicted only need eyedrops, but "most" doesn't cover everybody, does it? Your flip assumption about someone else's health says more about you than it does Bono.
@@RichAdams21 I never claimed I was a medical expert, I based it purely on my experience with people who have glaucoma. Now clearly you want to point fingers, so I'll play the same game, are you a medical expert? How much do you know about glaucoma? You say some people who are afflicted are sensitive to light, but can you maybe cite a source? Or are you just pulling that information out of your ass? Because if you know just as much about it as I do, then you are also making an assumption of his health.
He once said that he began using guttural vocals brought him other possibilities to express himself, but then he he said: "I needed an armor, because if I do expose my heart, I do need an armor'
U2 cultural appropriation of african american gospel.. Make Irish music
Cultural appropriation is what drives civilization forward. You're an idiot if you think otherwise.
We are all humans, from earth, made from the same matter. It's human culture, anything else just keeps boundaries for people to enjoy living, where you were born doesn't define you, the color of your skin doesn't define you, not even your story defines you, you define yourself. A person is a person, not alien from each other.
The concept of cultural appropriation does not make sense. Taking elements from other culture it’s one way how culture or creativity work. The exchange of ideas, styles, and traditions had always happen in humanity, and is increasing in the globalization. The idea that using elements from one another cultures means appropriation is in itself problematic, and must be banned. For sure being disrespectfull for another culture must be criticed, but appropriation does not exist.
two kinds of people in this industry those who help the artist get there and those who say if it wasn't for them the artist wouldn't of got there..