5:12 Yo, this is the kinda strike I was talking about! With the butt so close to your elbow in Posture of Theseus and the shield raised this way, you have a lot of room to cross your spear over and hit the more-vulnerable spear-side. If they don't respect the threats, you can just take the shot like you did here. If they do, it'll often move their shield down, opening up high shots. Good stuff, hope to see more!
Yeah I get what you mean. There I would have to have it even a bit further out to get it considerably to the other side of my body, but it's close. I'm familiar with what you're describing, by the way. There's a technique in Fiore spear in armor (meaning two hands on the spear, however) that's very similar that basically nobody tries. I worked on it quite a bit and got an action to work from it, though it was the follow up that hit. Check "Trials of Sir Goffredo pt. 1, Spear" if you want to check it out. Anyhow, I'm always going to keep trying stuff and finding different angles of attack.
I am so glad to see some demonstrations of overhand grip spear and sheild. This has been my preferred style with spear for some time and all I have ever encountered is criticism of it
Thanks! I'm not sure precisely what you mean. So fingernails and thumb still pointed in toward the face, or more like a sword grip but held over the shoulder?
@@corrugatedcavalier5266 So, rather than a hammer grip (held tighting in the hand), hold the spear as if you're going to throw it but thrust forwards. Because you have a looser grip, the spear can move around more flexibly in the hand - I think this is the same way people who spear fish use the overhand grip.
@@corrugatedcavalier5266 I recently tried spear and shield, it felt very unwieldy. Looking at you guys, I guess its just the way it is like. Though I feel more secure and precise with a shorter spear
@@TheEpicDartfish I honestly don't know. They're pretty light as they're rattan. Center of balance is roughly the middle, which is probably about appropriate for archaic age spears. It seems classical spears started being a bit more rear weighted. It does take some practice to hold it behind the point of balance, but it can be done.
This was nice,I hope to see more.
There certainly will be! Check out the videos that show up as cards, or take a look a few videos down on my channel and you'll see some more.
5:12 Yo, this is the kinda strike I was talking about! With the butt so close to your elbow in Posture of Theseus and the shield raised this way, you have a lot of room to cross your spear over and hit the more-vulnerable spear-side. If they don't respect the threats, you can just take the shot like you did here. If they do, it'll often move their shield down, opening up high shots.
Good stuff, hope to see more!
Yeah I get what you mean. There I would have to have it even a bit further out to get it considerably to the other side of my body, but it's close. I'm familiar with what you're describing, by the way. There's a technique in Fiore spear in armor (meaning two hands on the spear, however) that's very similar that basically nobody tries. I worked on it quite a bit and got an action to work from it, though it was the follow up that hit. Check "Trials of Sir Goffredo pt. 1, Spear" if you want to check it out. Anyhow, I'm always going to keep trying stuff and finding different angles of attack.
I am so glad to see some demonstrations of overhand grip spear and sheild. This has been my preferred style with spear for some time and all I have ever encountered is criticism of it
It certainly works! I used it basically the whole time. I have a video on why it works, if you haven't seen it.
Great video! Have you tried using any other overhand grips other than the hammer grip? Maybe an overhand version of the handshake grip as an example?
Thanks! I'm not sure precisely what you mean. So fingernails and thumb still pointed in toward the face, or more like a sword grip but held over the shoulder?
@@corrugatedcavalier5266 So, rather than a hammer grip (held tighting in the hand), hold the spear as if you're going to throw it but thrust forwards. Because you have a looser grip, the spear can move around more flexibly in the hand - I think this is the same way people who spear fish use the overhand grip.
@@BorninPurple yep, I do that at times. It's just very difficult to see subtle grip changes on video and while wearing somewhat thick leather gloves.
@@corrugatedcavalier5266 Ah, fair enough
Ator, the Invincible!! hehe what is that round chest piece called, I thought this style is fantasy armor?
Nope! It's disc armor/kardiophylax. More common for Italians of the time but it seems that Greeks used it earlier
@@corrugatedcavalier5266 I recently tried spear and shield, it felt very unwieldy. Looking at you guys, I guess its just the way it is like. Though I feel more secure and precise with a shorter spear
I really like this spear and shield videos, I would love to see spear and shield vs longsword
Not what we're going for here, but would be a fun matchup!
Very cool, how long are your spears and speartips?
Thanks! The spear shafts are 7 feet. The tips add maybe another 6 inches.
@@corrugatedcavalier5266 Thank you! I'm going to build a foam one for practice. May I ask the weight and relatively where your center of balance is?
@@TheEpicDartfish I honestly don't know. They're pretty light as they're rattan. Center of balance is roughly the middle, which is probably about appropriate for archaic age spears. It seems classical spears started being a bit more rear weighted. It does take some practice to hold it behind the point of balance, but it can be done.
Why such small shields?
Just a limitation of equipment right now. I'm going to start making an aspis/hoplon in about a week