Marine Battery Wiring and install + Onboard Battery charger & fuze/breaker.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ม.ค. 2020
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I keep a battery tender on all my batteries year round. The two batteries in my boat are 4 & 5 years old. I like your work. It’s fun to watch
*I bought this model for my 14 ft Jon boat. **enjoyable.fishing** recommend love it!!! It pushes my boat with ease ( 2 men 220 each). I would highly recommend this to anyone.*
Thanks for responding and helping us out. I've been watching these non stop. Great videos man. Just got my first bass boat, 18 foot skeeter. Needs so much work.
Bud me and you are literally working on the same pase im working on my battery setup ive learned alot from your videos keep it up
Great video ! I don't think that your builds are no where over weight ! If any thing they are lighter than most factory alum. bass boats !!
Your the reason I built my boat
Very clean!!!🔥
I like your videos and have been thinking about building a boat myself, also I run Walmart batteries in my bass boat and usually get 4-5 years out of them. General maintenance will help keep them good. Also if you run any graphs with si, di, or gps. Get the 27 or 29. I can run my helix 7, helix 10 and both livewell pretty much all day on a 29dc everstart. And use the 29 series for the ultrex. Weight might be a little issue though. Anyway, great videos!!
Stoked to see how the boat turns out in the end. Will you be doing any more bass trackers? That was by far my favorite series.
Man you guys build some bad ass boats. I’m gonna get a jon boat soon and try to fix it up.
Would you get the MS fornthe cranking battery or just use the DC also? How does ot work cause i have 3 batteries 2 of which are connected together so how do the connected ones work
Good looking job i got a pro mariner 2 bank got mine mounted on the rear hatch lid were i can see it my xpress 17ft hard to mount under the deck were i could see it
Hi mate.. I am looking to put one of these on my boat; however, i am bit skeptical about installation as i am not mechanically inclined. Are the positive and negative coming out of device going straight to each battery and they shore power to the unit? Any other fuses or considerations to take into account? Thanks..
Should the battery charger be isolated from the wall of the boat? I've always heard that, plastic cutting board is a good option for doing it cheap
i have a 86 35hp johnson...i cant find what group soze battery i need to start it. can you help me please?
20amp starter motor, 50 amp tolling motor.THANKS brother. Been looking high an low for that information. Although one wonders.... say for example the 20amp starter fuse blows. What then........?
ALWAYS keep battery terminal covers ON when working around them. Just so if you accidentally drop a wrench or kick aluminium angle that connects the two poles and kaboom
Just a thought but when using conduit, use individual wires rather than a wrapped pair. The theory is that it traps heat that becomes a fire hazard.
On your batteries, do you use a battery maintainer during the winter? Can help extend battery life
I ran a group 27 lifepo, super lightweight. I also run a Noco genius x2, with a plug in port so I don't even have to open the battery compartment.
I got 8 years out one walmart battery the trolling motor one i got 9 couldnt believe they lasted that long i keep my boat in my garage and keep the charger on boat i got now has a Duracell starting battery its 2 years old needing replaced getting week
how long do those ever start batteries you have last when trolling around?
Deep cycle batteries are fine for motor starting as long as the CCA is plenty? Iv got a 70hp Yamaha, just got 2x AMG deep cycle batteries and wondering if I should of got a cranking and deep cycle but it seems so split optional if a cranking battery is even needed for an engine this size.
Hey man can you run the trolling and graph battery’s in series for charging? And still avoid interruption while using both electronics at the same time? Thanks
Hi,
I would like to charge my 210VDC NiMH Battery pack with 4-8amp.
1- Should it work if I will use direct Grid 220VAC to a Bridge Rectifier (GBU808) and then use Rectifier's DC output of 220 VDC to charge my 210VDC Battery directly?
2- Do I need to add any other electrical component along with Rectifier to achieve basic target?
What size wire from battery to electric start and battery to accesories bluestar and back?
Is that 6 gauge duplex better for trolling motor? Or is it the same as just running two separate wires.
Some great information on hooking up batteries and all, I do have a question, I am installing two new fish finders, and I have watched several videos on ensuring direct power be applied to them. One video in particular is on using the wiring harness developed from Sea Clear, Although they have a great system, I think I can accomplish the same by making my own harness system. I have purchased marine grade 8 gage wire and I will be installing in line fuses , My question is they show running these lines directly to their cranking battery, I have a smaller boat and only have one dedicated battery for cranking, I also have two other batteries for my trolling motor, By connecting to my cranking battery wont that run my battery down and possible risk me not being able to start my engine?
My next question is they use a switch from the battery, never had a switch since most of my other electronics were so small they did not pull much juice, But these new lowrance units are a bit more power hungry, How exactly do these switches work on when I sold turn them on or off , I assume during cranking time they should be turned off but if I am up on plane running I need them on to read the lake.
In line fuses, I have heard a couple different fuse types to use, one says 5 amp and others say 20 amp going to the fish finders. Since each fish finder will have its own in line fuse is 5 amp sufficient?
I also noticed you used a breaker system that you purchased from wall mart, Should I also add those into any of the connections running from my battery to those units?
Sory a bit long but I want to get this right and I am hearing multiple methods, I just want it to be right so its safe. any help would be much appreciated, Thanks
Please give us the Name Band info on the Rubber Matting your cutting and using. THANKS
Hey man, I'm fixing up my 14 Sears job boat up. Not as well as you, but I was wondering if I could ask you a few questions
the weight thing is directly correlated to the bouyancy. the canadians once built an aircraft carrier out of ice, the mullberries at normandy were concrete. on a seperate note i got group 27 battery trays at cabellas that had the hold down strap for around $12.00 they had group 27 and group24 on the shelf. nice heavy plastic.
I use those same ones.
what kind of wire are you using to make your extrension to your battery from the charger?
If you use a good on board charger/tender for you batteries and you maintain them correctly aka check water/acid levels once a month or 2 and top off as needed only fill after fully charged with distilled water then you should get 4 or 5 years out of your batteries or more
a year of use on cheap batteries??? I just retired an 8 year old dual purpose, interstate. have gone with a single crank 24 and house 27, both interstate.
I found the video very informative, so thank you. Can not understand though cheaping out on batteries that only last a year.
Thanks again.
Awesome, screw the haters!
Take it to a truck stop they have scales you can weigh it. Or local moving companies sometimes have scales you can put the trailer and boat on it and have real numbers
You take more precautions that anyone else without sacrificing anything that you want
i think all tiny boats are as safe as you want them to be regardless of what you do to them. Ive seen all kinds of boat mods and a lot were very questionalbe. but ive never seen one cause a boat to sink. its almost always opperator error!!!!
I made a call to a Kentucky dealer about the John boat
DIY videos, a factory finished John boat is around $68,000
And the smallest one they had was a 17footer, $32,000, these were new johnboats, so unless I hit the lottery , it might be awhile before I get a John boat, but I will be going after a 24footer ,I want the big one,
I got breakers in mine and marine grade fuse panel at the dash
@Tiny Boat Nation is there a point in getting the expensive batteries like Optima compared to something a lot cheaper like Everstart? Do the Optima preform better or have longer lifespans?
@@TinyBoatNation awesome thanks! Are they worth the difference in performance for the money?
Really like the idea of using PEX pipe. Is That ROMEX wire you're using? If so, GREAT IDEA! Impeach you? HA! The only thing that I can say with the weight is if the water goes over the sides of the boat when you unload it, THEN is when its too heavy! Ha ha ha! Everything that you use seems to be very lightweight. Especially when you're using aluminum. Take a pre build and post build weight measurement on scales then calculate the percentage of total weight. That will tell you if it's too heavy
I have a question that I can't find an answer to. Can you you pvc glued up boards for a transom replacement?
NOooooooooo.....
could you do a demonstration showing how you would wire a trolling motor using a circuit breaker running to a marine switch panel outside the boat I'm more confused from looking at this video than ever and I do not want to blow up my boat because I do not have the funds to replace it I have an older model lund which have a raised bow that Im trying to install a trolling motor on any help would be appreciated and if you could dum it down some that would help
To heavy???? Really???? I've seen your boats all built out and they're barely in the water. If you didn't have a fat man or two in the boat you'd have to put an extra long shaft motor on the boat. I guess you can't make everyone happy. And you never will. But for me, this sh*t is great. Man dont ever stop. And please dont take the old stuff off. I watch then rewatch and every time I get more of the evaluation out of the videos. I think I can speak for a lot of us it can be hard to follow that twisted mind of yours. 😉😉👍👍👍👍
What did you use to connect the onboard charger to new battery wires? Thanks
@@TinyBoatNation Thank you, now I need to figure out how to do the 6 gauge to 10 gauge step down for the trolling motor, Any ideas?
Did you happen to use a adhesive with that Eva foam on the aluminum or did you just put it on with the sticky backing that comes on it the Eva foam by chance... thanks!!!
@@TinyBoatNation 🤙 thanks man!!!!
@@TinyBoatNation how about applying the eve foam to the marine grade plywood do you treat the wood or leave it bare then apply the eve foam!!? sorry and thanks again!!!
Can I send you pictures of my new to me 1982 Cajun bass boat I’m trying to learn how to rewire? Just to get your honest opinions if my idea where I plan on placing everything. Thx
Same I have a runabout boat and a battery no trolling motor but I don’t no where the ground wire is post to connect from the battery to .? I’m so confused
Anything electrical makes a complete circle if that makes sense... so + from battery, fuse or circuit breaker like has has, example to light switch + post, to light bulb +... then back with negative... light bulb - to light switch post - to battery -
But you need to ceal batteries sealer the red stuff/ problem with liquid tape is service
Genius is all I can say. I don’t have a clue what you are doing but interesting anyway. If I wanted to install an on/off switch at my cranking battery... what wires would go into that switch to make it work. Keep in mind that I know absolutely nothing about wiring. I only know red is positive and black is negative.
I bought the on/off switch for my cranking battery over a year ago but it’s not installed because I have no idea what wires go in it. I was going to put all the wires that are connected to my battery in it but I heard that’s incorrect so I now have to go find an electrician to install it. Wish I knew how and I’ve searched videos everywhere. Was hoping your videos could help
Come on, channel locks for the breaker terminals 😄
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Does that battery by the charger also turn on the outboard motor ?
No
@@TinyBoatNation which battery does the outboard motor ?
while on water use new batterys get solar 12-24v keep new batterys charge better then this type chargers! because solar up keep new batteries nthen old batter you use solar add dc -ac convetor then plus in as well! must add inle fuse on poistive side battery leads!! must in line fuse!! i have pontoon boat 20ft set way higher then fiber glass boat!
I like you guys videos. Cool stuff.... but I have just 1 gripe. Why in hell are you using channel locks to tighten a nut on a electrical connection? 3:15 LOL... gimme a break!
@@TinyBoatNation uuuuuhhhhh no! They don't !
I think it is a very good looking installation and very clean but there is no NEC or ABYC or NFPA standards being followed so, as a marine electrician myself I see many deviations that will shorten the life of this installation and in cases can be dangerous.
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- Tin is less conductive but it is used to prevent corrosion and corrosion is way less conductive and more destructive than tin. So tin conductors should have been used.
- None of these compartments appears to be vented, lead acid battery vent hydrogen a highly explosive and corrosive gas. Obviously it should be vented and no other appliance should be in the same compartment, certainly not a none-ignition protected battery charger.
- Each battery should be secure so they could not move more than 1 inch in any directions, individually.
- Breakers are called thermal breakers they trip on heat, that is why we use fuses that are tripping on amperage.
- None marine grade breakers will just fuse/corrode themselves in the closed position.
- Conduits are nice but they need to be vented for heat dissipation.
- The posts you are using are called "accessory posts" they are not meant to provide the amperage that a trolling motor will ask, so heat and fire risk. A clue: When the AWG size of your cable is bigger than the post you are tying it too, there is a problem.
- You are using a 20A charger and you mention 3 batteries, I see they are 690 MCA so your charger does not produce 15% of the total amperage of you r installation, not even 10% which is the absolute minimum requirement.
- I am sorry to say: It is not about "calling you out" ( I have no idea what FB group you are talking about) and having good "rebuttals" (gee) it is about following standards.
- Installing heavy components "at the ends'" will induce hobby horsing and that is a dangerous attribute in any boat and especially on low freeboard bass boat type.
- The fitting you are installing on that wire at 3:10 is way too big for the stud and at the very least will shake itself loose.
- I do not see any considerations for the voltage drop and these wires look pretty thin to me even at 24V, also it looks like you are using the same AWG size throughout so unless you used over-sized wires everywhere it looks like some runs will have undersized wires...
- I do not think a clerk in a general battery store can be considered an 'expert' in marine electrical systems, you should àbe the knowledgeable one. Just sayin'.
- Group 24 LA battery, well it is not a guess, you have to calculate your power requirements per hour, how many hours the requirement will be needed, and your deep cycle battery should be twice the total amount plus 20% as a safety margin.
Ex. your requirement is 10A for 10 hr = 100A your battery should be 100A plus 20% safety margin 120A battery needed. Bare minimum battery charger output 10% so 12A, 15% as a standard= 20A.
- A battery threated decently should last 5-8 years, not one...
Those are just the ones that structed me in passing.
Cheers,
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Why don’t you make your whole boat a ground since most of your framing is aluminum and then you would only run half the amount of wires threw your conduit
My deep cycle battery is from 2016 😂
But these newer batterys dont know how they will last
Ms batteries are just starter batteries
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Do you have an email?
Why not 1st buy the boat or receive the boat for the build and then take it to a local weigh station or dump weigh station? Then do your build and compare afterwords...
I actually think your builds look pretty good, in my opinion alum is def lighter then wood and you proved that in another video... my area only offers 3/4 marine wood, my 89 tracker looked as if it had 1/2 inch on the bow, I'm hoping after fiberglass epoxy an carpet it's not to much weight, cause I'll be pulling the floor an doing the same process there, then onto the rear of the boat which needs all the foam removed some how it all looks to be 1 piece from the seats to the bottom of the rear center battery an gas box which I don't love the idea of my gas an 32v of battery in the same space...
That's too much work
Can't you make the videos less shaky. It really hurts the eyes watching the videos especially when the camera is mounted on your head. Otherwise its good work you're doing.
Impeachment??
Will there be witnesses called??
LMAO 🤣
Should rename to how not to do a electrical system on a boat, huge marine electrical no no's all over the place.
Out of curiosity can you please elaborate and point out any of the no no's? I am looking to do a similar project and would appreciate any feedback for do's and don'ts
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