Succinct explanation of the fundamentals (stance, grip, presentation sights, trigger, follow through). Something to send a link to shooters learning to do it right
Had to reload my issued Colt Detective Special under fire in 1974. We were trying to arrest three armed robbery suspects when they decided to shoot it out. In the aftermath one suspect was dead, one gave up at the scene and a third was arrested the following day at the hospital seeking treatment for a GSW. One officer went down w/a .45 round in the chest (pre vest) but recovered and returned to full duty. I had one speedloader but how I managed to reload under fire is a bit fuzzy.
Revolvers, especially the D Frame Colts with the short crane are particularly challenging to speed reload. When I carried an alloy frame Colt Cobra .38 I had the best success with Safariland Comp II & Comp I speed loaders.
Funny how some memories stay with you, and some are in a haze. Just glad you and your other officers came out safe. Even though your partner was struck.
Glad you made it out of there,brother.I have been in similar situations more than I care to remember,and I can say I remember reloading seamlessly-only because I stayed in the fight,but almost all of the fight seems hazy when I look back.Adrenaline does that to the mind.
In my town an officer was killed by bank robbers in 1935 after reloading his revolver under fire. (No speed loaders then.) He was a Marine from WW1 and killed two of the robbers before dying. A hero. They ambushed him when he checked on their car.
So refreshing to hear the opening remarks about the probability of civilians ever needing tactical reloads. So many TV shows and TH-cam vids approach everything as if we are all Navy Seals! Wilson Combat rarely disappoints!
Absolutely Hollywood has trained no one but couch potato's. A smooth draw and a practiced aim are reality. I would include grip but that's circumstances, if you can that's better.
Mike: thank you so much for covering the multiple ways of closing the slide during an emergency reload. There is a trend among some instructors of asserting that there is only one right way to close the slide. It is refreshing that you demonstrated that there are multiple ways, each with advantages and disadvantages. Try all of the methods, pick one, and train that way -- it's that simple.
I’ve got a reload drill I call the 3/6/9 It comes in basic, intermediate and advanced: 3 yds, 6 rds, 9 secs Basic: 3 in the gun, 3 in the spare mag Intermediate: 2 in the gun, 2 in each spare mag Advanced: option1: empty gun, 2 mags, one with 2 and one with 4 for a surprise reload Option 2: empty gun, 3 mags, 2 rds each Option 3 (Superman mode) 3 mags, random 1 rd, 2 rds, 3rds. Start with empty gun Have fun 🤩
its good to practice reloads but thankfully defense research shows your out of time before your out of ammo as far as the private citizen, so lightning speed is ready but very rare you will have to use it according to private citizen defense research, even less rare if you train, even if gun fight was extended you want to focus your training for that more on making good hits as a more important priority, this will save your ammo so you dont need a reload, if we separate the private citizens in defense situations from law enforcement and military, those events you run out of time before running out of ammo as perp runs from you resisting him, a argument can be made for law enforcement needing reloads but many of them "pray and spray" wich is panic fire so we cant count rounds and reloads that are used in that way, dumping a mag is unnecessary unless you break cover and get out in the open in wich you should never do, for cover you ask where is my tree, my telephone pole, my car, my brick building wall, not be out in the open forcing yourself to pray and spray when you could use cover, what you see in competition shooting and fast reloads and all them impressive timer scores is a emphasis on speed and a neglecting of cover and shooting more accurately needing less rounds, neglect of cover has killed police officers and the person who did it having no shooting experience or very little like a occasional trip to the range but no training, this shows that speed alone isnt it, if it was then unskilled perps wouldnt be shooting and killing cops, so your speed is only as good as when you start and your sense of situational awareness and ability to read body language effectively, you and the perp are not waiting on a timer like you do with at the range with draws and reloads, this is real life, there is "no timer in gun fight" the perp isnt going to wait for a timer to get the drop on you first, even a sub second draw i have shown in my conceal and open carry video wont work if i am not situationally aware of my surroundings or mind set of getting to cover on the move defending. most defensive shootings are up close and isnt mag changes at those distances because the objective is to get to cover while shooting on the move and not standing out in the open doing fast mag changes like you see on the range with wide open space and neatly cut grass, perfectly flat terrain wich isnt that way in a gun fight, most of the time in defense situations your close enough to cover to use it right away so it doesnt look like these wide open ranges with no cover, if we shoot "pray and spray" needing another mag it only proves we are not hitting or incapacitating the threat, we should be using that ammo wisely from a place of cover not out in the open, most private citizen events there was cover nearby and rare ecception to the rule no cover, so fast mag changes are nice and are impressive but are like having a fire extiquisher you never need to put out a fire, good to have it but extremely rare you will use it, so its mostly good training that will be more fun to do it and rarely you will need it, especially doing several mag changes wich is even more rare for the trained private citizen to have to use it what mosty are close quarters events with lots with lots of cover and perp leaving so fast you cant practice your 4 or 6 magazine reloads but on the range out in the open with no threats shooting back at you
I watched Mike shoot a stage in IDPA once. Amazingly efficient. Thank goodness for this video, as in person he was so fast I couldn’t see how he did it.
Superb advice from Mr. Seeklander! These are much the same techniques taught so well by Mas Ayoob. Mike Seeklander's recommended slide lock release generally works very well with 1911 pattern guns, but does not always work well with other makes (e.g., Glock, S&W M&P, etc); myself I prefer the slide lock release with 1911's, Sig's, Walther's, and CZ's. All good advice, and shooters should practice all methods of slide release Just In Case, but be most conditioned to the method which works 100% of the time, as Mike advised..
Finally, someone who suggests releasing the slide with the slide stop or slide release...whatever you wish to call it...with the WEAK HAND thumb. I have been doing that since I carried Colt 1911 in the late '70s as an LEO. Thanks for confirming I'm not a mutant !
Great training video Thanks Mike. I train slow and smooth, proper form will lead to proper timing, it has to become a mindset where speed is only as good as developed precision.
Awesome stuff! I appreciated the variation (for me to try) slide release with support hand thumb to maintain grip. My topic request: how to increase speed of trigger press and maintain accuracy. Trained as a LEO to standard of accuracy over speed but would like to improve speed too. Thanks so much!! ✨️
WOW...Cindy how refreshing to hear another LEO who desires to train...most do not. Not to mitigate what Wilson Combat has but watch this video by Ken Hackathorn a good friend of Bill Wilson. th-cam.com/video/ho-UZ75BS58/w-d-xo.html
Thank u Mike. I myself carry the WC SFX9 3.25 model, so your vidio was perfect for me. Keep the vidio's comming. Stay safe. Oh and I am now practicing as a right handed shooter the L hand slide release. U don't have to change your grip.
I submit for your consideration that in your Slingshot slide release that you try the palm at the base of your thumb on your off hand and the pads of your first three offhand fingers. You roll the gun to an angle to insert the mag and then roll the gun toward your offhand the same amount of degrees off center that you used to reload. This puts the slide right next to your forward pointing offhand thumb you have in positioned to regrip the gun.
Would like to learn how to shoot through ports -- squat vs taking a knee on low ports and how to get up and move quickly after squatting or kneeling, narrow ports, trap door covered ports, etc.
The slide lock sucks on my M&Ps. I trained for the "overhand method" because it's more reliable. I used carry a Jehrico that would drop the slide when the mag was slammed home. I've lost a little time, but training for consistency builds reliable speed. I also trained for pocket carrying mags and can still outshoot guys with red dots and mag carriers. Training and consistency is important. Another more practical skills is the admin/tactical reload. Practice reloading behind cover and retaining the partial mag. Getting two magazines in your hand and not just dropping the mag on the floor is weird after getting the emergency reload down. And do it behind cover too so lean out after the reload.
I'm practicing all of these fundamentals. The problem I have is, when I do these things, I don't get the same tribal drums. I suggest going through this routine with a revolver as well.
For me, the reload is in the same catagory as shooting from the surrender position. They are skills to devote what you believe is an appropriate amount of training, knowing that it is a very remote possibility that these would ever be used to save your life or the lives of others.
I used to use the over the top method when performing a reload, however, after seeing larry vickers release the slide with his non grip hand thumb, that is the only way I now do it.
mike over the years the vision isn't what is use to be I am far sighted so acquiring my front site can be challenging, can you share or make a video that might help. Thanks.
Absolutely amazing video you're awesome Very educational and when you shoot You're firearm it's amazing that slide just comes back there's no rising or anything that it's looking like. great job great video I'm a follower
My little Taurus G2 can hold up to 13 rounds. If I can't get it done with that, split second reloading probably won't help me much. Quick draw seems to be the key to success.
The 3 things I want you to pay attention to are: 1- Finger off the trigger 2 - Finger off the trigger 3 - Finger off the trigger I’ve witnessed ND’s into the sky or ceiling and left 😧 because people don’t understand that you HAVE TO take your finger OFF the trigger while performing these reloads.
Thank you Bill Wilson for sharing with use. And thank you for your and your wives work in the IDPA! Wow this is like a thesis of a reload. I never really thought of it so exact. I guess doing it for a career I never really put that much into it.
fastest way isnt always the way to do something or the way of survival, a hamster wheel is fast but gets no where if we are in a situation of missing a step getting the wagon in front of the horses, competition shooting if something goes wrong there are no consequences as in a real situation defending ourselves, pressing the mag release at the same time going for a new mag is trusting that the mag will drop free, if it doesnt then you end up having to rearrage the magazine in your left hand while using thumb and index finger to rip magazine out, though some its not a big deal it does add extra steps with that left hand having to rearrange the mag so that thumb and index finger can rip mag out, a better way in my opinion is when you press the mag release keep left hand by mag well to insure mag comes out or help rip it out using that momentum to go for the next mag, is it slower ? shure, but your inshuring that mag comes out and by this muscle memory you wont have a situation where you go for the new mag the same time you hit mag release finding out that the mag got stuck, may not happen on the range or competition shooting but has happened in gun fights alot under stress and adrenaline, israel and the IDF know this is very true also guys like nir maman teaches american swat and police and much more the method of having left hand by mag well to inshure mag comes out with rip assist with that momentum of left hand going for the new magazine, so competition shooters who worry about time would say that a mag is always going to drop free but we are not talking about competition shooting but real life and death events that happen all the time, nir maman takes serveys of swat and police or any groups he trains to verify its true these murphys law events happen like a stuck mag, so essentailly taking that extra time keeping left support hand near mag well to inshure mag drops is better then already having the spare mag having to now adjust grip on the mag so that you can use index finger and thumb to rip it out, on the range or competition shooting it may be fast and impressive for the timer but taking short cuts in steps over looking things like a mag getting stuck will set us up for a potential failure to defend ourselves or loss of life by not having the rip out magazine in our muscle memory, we should practice mag rip outs just as we do double feeds and stove pipes, if we depend or take for granted mag will aways drop free then we set ourselves up for taking more time to adjust hand on spare mag with thumb and index finger to rip magazine out and since its not practiced by many this is not a part of our immediate action muscle memory. so a hamster wheel is fast but gets us no where but a turtle racing a hampster wins the race doing things right while the hampster spins in one spot, this is why speed isnt everything if you take short cuts, doing things that take just a little extra time to inshure your firearm will be ready for immediate action like having left hand stay with mag well only untill mag drops and then go for spare mag, not go for spare mag at the same time we press the mag release. once again things that are faster are only faster if there is no consequence of a action, the action of having a mag while the mag release wont drop mag is a consequence of not being there for the mag ready if it should get stuck. reaching for new mag before a stuck magazine to remedy an situation is worse then staying with a mag to rip it out or inshure it drops free and then go for spare magazine, someone being fast at something doesnt necessarily mean they do things the right way, you can mow a lawn fast and cut a mohawk lawn, tall rows in many places so yes you mow fast but skipped parts of the lawn, thats how it is not waiting to inshure mag drops free and not rip it out first before going to spare mag to skipping a vital step that can save your life if putting that immediate action in your muscle memory tactical pistol operations, the problem also is this worship of timers and obsession of speed wich many people dont realize can also be a weakness if that speed compromises a tactic that isnt done right or skipped for the sake of speed and in competition shooting you can find many, one small example is 3 targets engaged going for targets 2 and 3 before incapaciting hits on the first, no incapacitation standard to perform on the 1st target but miss vitals and go on for a couple more double taps on targets 2 and 3, the 1st target in real life if heart didnt get hit or some vital they woud be shooting back at us and even a heart hit is not always immediate incapacitation for some, "you can only kill one person at a time" and must inshure never to break cover untill target 1 is down and then slice the pie for 2 and then 3, what they should do is only allow you 2 rounds for each target rather then a bushel of bullets under the mag well for the course, hit a hostage target "disqualfied" and miss vitals on target 1 you must keep shooting untill 2 shots in the 4 inch heart zone or 4 inch or less head zone, take the A zone commonly used and split in in half to represent a more accurate vital such as the heart. make competion targets smaller, make it so you have less ammo, call it a "limited resources drill" limited resources in all our wars men did amazing things like audie murphy and many others so never rule out a revolver or things we feel are limited resources. actually private citizen defense situations if we separate it from competition shooting its actually competition shooting in reverse, we extract ourselves from the situation while shooting on the move to get to cover if we have it futher away not closer to the threat, rare ecceptions to the rule like being a sheep dog or only forward for our escape, even law enforcement goes to the threat as competition shooters because they have to put cuffs on and a duty to chase even if in one gun fight and now a additional gun fight on the chase trying to get a surrender for cuffs on, a private citizen in most events only need to extract themselves out of the situation and have no duty to chase or get involved playing a cop or sheep dog, this is why small calibers, small pistols, revolvers and low capacity hand guns people can get by on, its because you dont need the same resources as law enforcement or military, no one drives a abrams tank to go down to the store to get a gallon of milk, the role is very different with military or even law enforcement, this is why claude werners reasearch on possible 20,000 or more highly detailed events where a private citizen used small calibers, small pistols, revolvers and low capacity hand guns and did fine in defense situations and he couldnt find any more deaths with those guns a private citizen used then larger caliber pistols and high capacity mags, nothing against high capacity but if you dont have it as a private citizen the research doesnt show your doomed just based on that because situational awareness, your training and other factors are involved to . claude werner keeps law enforcement and military stats out of private citizen stats so we have accurate data on what works just for the private citizen wich is in many ways is different then law enforcment and military defense situations needing less resources but nothing wrong with having more, this is why a revover if you train isnt a death sentence in a defense situation you still have reloads, you still need to seek cover and extract, you still need to train with it and shoot accurately, there are still other variables like situational awareness and other things that determin a outcome, you can do just as poorly with a 17 round magazine you take for granted if you dont train, not situationally aware, bad tactics, out in the open not seeking cover and many other things, all the variables or "ingredients to the cake" determin if you make a cake, leave one variable out and outcome can be just as bad even if you think its only caliber or capacity dependent
Very true about the probability of needing civilian tactical reloads. My only reason for the skill is based around magazine related malfunction. If it weren’t for that, I probably wouldn’t spend so much time practicing reloading.
I greatly admire Mike's talent and experience. However as a Range Safety Officer at a small range with only a 90 degree safety angle, I have to mention that his muzzle is close to a 150-degree angle. Not a problem on the outdoor range he is on, but an issue in some circumstances, not just at a range, but in real world circumstances. it is unlikely someone with his ability would make a mistake, but not all of us are at his level. Muzzle direction awareness is critical in all circumstances.
My "defensive" purposes involve a larger force of armored hostile combatants voilently forcing their way into an unauthorized zone. So I practice reloads often.
One size does NOT fit all! My right thumb extends 9/16" in front of the slide lock, so actuating the slide lock with my right thumb works the best for me. I don't need to rotate the pistol in my hand in order to actuate the magazine release. (Many people need to rotate the pistol in their hand to reach the magazine release with their thumb.) I have no difficulties inserting a magazine blindfolded. That is how I practice. But that doesn't cost me a dime. Finding the time and money to target practice is the more difficult challenge.
Decades stats and research of law enforcement and military was lumped into defense research of private citizens, this is where the missconceptions started about things like a revolver, or small caliber semi auto being not adequate for defense, but still we train with what we carry but the role of a well trained private citizen is to defend while seeking cover wich is almost available in every defense shooting, the trained citizen extracts themselves from the situtation, where as law enforcement and military its a chase to go get the perp requirements now of more resources including more ammo and possible mag changes unlike the trained private citizen who open or conceal carrys but trains with what they carry, private citizens do not have to chase unless they feel like being a sheep dog or play cop, very rare will you have to chase, as far mag capacity what happens is you run out of time before running out of ammo, especially trained private citizens train in using ammo wisely and not praying and spraying and are more likely to fire a shot and get to cover, not standing out in the open like you see in videos with gangs and untrained private citizens, when a private citizen loses a defense situation usually people blame the guns caliber, capacity but successful defense has much more to do with the person behind the gun and training with the gun they carry. Another thing is gun fights happen so fast the bad guys dont even know what caliber, capacity or type of gun we have, nor are they interested in math counting shots fired, so even if its a revolver no one is going to stick around counting shots saying "hes out, he fired 6" a Cleveland ohio bar was cleared out of over 100 people tripping over each other because a guy shot a 6 shot revolver, no one was counting shots, no one said "its only a 6 shot revolver" no one may even see it to know that it was a revolver, remember we had couple hundred years of revolvers getting the job done, even amoung law enforcement if you take the numbers they killed with revolvers verses the number of officers losing their life using a revolver its very small and many forget police with revolvers killed guys who used full autos and shotguns against them, jim cirrilo and guys like that that said if you use a revolver train with it, many police back then just would qualify and rarely practice with defense drills, jeff cooper himself mentioned this, so when you hear stories about a cop reloading a revolver behind his car and not having time to reload as bad guy comes around to shoot him, they use this to show revolvers are bad for defense but a private citizen even back then didnt have to chase a bad guy, there is a big difference in a private citizen using revolver to fire a shot and get to cover extracting himself then a police officer who had a short gun fight but now must get into another gun fight as he chases a suspect, this is more resources dependent because you are going to the bad guy into danger where as a private citizen is getting away defending and using extraction tactics. much respect for law enforcement having to go into the lion cage but a prvate citizen can watch through the fense, when you have duty to go to danger and trouble its much different then a private cirizen whi has no dury but to defend while extracting themselves, this leaves law enforcement the greater disadvantaged to be ambushed and picked off bu crimminals who run that they have to chase even if they were unsuccessful in the first shootout, the main thing if your LEO is ask your self where is my tree, my telephone pole or any cover as i come out of the pocket to get closer to the suspect putting on cuffs or yet another shoot out, recently in a shootout video a cop used a telephone pole on a guy who wouldnt get out of car then would keep his hands still and abushed 2 officers closest to him giving them hardly time to respond, but private citizens are not doing traffic stops having to deal with those ambushes and many shots fired, so the stats and research of law enforcement should never be lumped or blended in with what the private citizen needs as far as a gun, caliber or capacity because the role is very different with some rare exceptions to that rule
You train for reloads because you might need to perform this skill under the worst of circumstances-contrary to popular belief-you will NOT rise to the occasion,you’ll sink to your level of training.
This is an important skill, but it makes the idea of limiting capacity to the magic number of 10 (or according to the president, now only 8). You'd think you'd want the average person to have as many rounds as possible.
What other topics would you like to see Mike cover?
Succinct explanation of the fundamentals (stance, grip, presentation sights, trigger, follow through). Something to send a link to shooters learning to do it right
Please do a video on how to clear malfunctions.
Ya what Willie said!!!!
Grip and posture please 👉🌬
Ways to manipulate a firearm for left handed shooters i.e. mag release, slide lock, etc.
Had to reload my issued Colt Detective Special under fire in 1974. We were trying to arrest three armed robbery suspects when they decided to shoot it out. In the aftermath one suspect was dead, one gave up at the scene and a third was arrested the following day at the hospital seeking treatment for a GSW. One officer went down w/a .45 round in the chest (pre vest) but recovered and returned to full duty. I had one speedloader but how I managed to reload under fire is a bit fuzzy.
Revolvers, especially the D Frame Colts with the short crane are particularly challenging to speed reload. When I carried an alloy frame Colt Cobra .38 I had the best success with Safariland Comp II & Comp I speed loaders.
Funny how some memories stay with you, and some are in a haze. Just glad you and your other officers came out safe. Even though your partner was struck.
Glad you made it out of there. Hope you’re enjoying your retirement.
Glad you made it out of there,brother.I have been in similar situations more than I care to remember,and I can say I remember reloading seamlessly-only because I stayed in the fight,but almost all of the fight seems hazy when I look back.Adrenaline does that to the mind.
In my town an officer was killed by bank robbers in 1935 after reloading his revolver under fire. (No speed loaders then.)
He was a Marine from WW1 and killed two of the robbers before dying. A hero. They ambushed him when he checked on their car.
So refreshing to hear the opening remarks about the probability of civilians ever needing tactical reloads. So many TV shows and TH-cam vids approach everything as if we are all Navy Seals! Wilson Combat rarely disappoints!
Absolutely Hollywood has trained no one but couch potato's. A smooth draw and a practiced aim are reality. I would include grip but that's circumstances, if you can that's better.
Exactly...I was involved in two LEO shootings and never had to go to a reload.
Those Ukrainian civilizians probably wished they practiced reloading more often... when they were alive.
Mike: thank you so much for covering the multiple ways of closing the slide during an emergency reload. There is a trend among some instructors of asserting that there is only one right way to close the slide. It is refreshing that you demonstrated that there are multiple ways, each with advantages and disadvantages. Try all of the methods, pick one, and train that way -- it's that simple.
I’ve got a reload drill I call the 3/6/9
It comes in basic, intermediate and advanced:
3 yds, 6 rds, 9 secs
Basic: 3 in the gun, 3 in the spare mag
Intermediate: 2 in the gun, 2 in each spare mag
Advanced:
option1: empty gun, 2 mags, one with 2 and one with 4 for a surprise reload
Option 2: empty gun, 3 mags, 2 rds each
Option 3 (Superman mode) 3 mags, random 1 rd, 2 rds, 3rds. Start with empty gun
Have fun 🤩
its good to practice reloads but thankfully defense research shows your out of time before your out of ammo as far as the private citizen, so lightning speed is ready but very rare you will have to use it according to private citizen defense research, even less rare if you train, even if gun fight was extended you want to focus your training for that more on making good hits as a more important priority, this will save your ammo so you dont need a reload, if we separate the private citizens in defense situations from law enforcement and military, those events you run out of time before running out of ammo as perp runs from you resisting him, a argument can be made for law enforcement needing reloads but many of them "pray and spray" wich is panic fire so we cant count rounds and reloads that are used in that way, dumping a mag is unnecessary unless you break cover and get out in the open in wich you should never do, for cover you ask where is my tree, my telephone pole, my car, my brick building wall, not be out in the open forcing yourself to pray and spray when you could use cover, what you see in competition shooting and fast reloads and all them impressive timer scores is a emphasis on speed and a neglecting of cover and shooting more accurately needing less rounds, neglect of cover has killed police officers and the person who did it having no shooting experience or very little like a occasional trip to the range but no training, this shows that speed alone isnt it, if it was then unskilled perps wouldnt be shooting and killing cops, so your speed is only as good as when you start and your sense of situational awareness and ability to read body language effectively, you and the perp are not waiting on a timer like you do with at the range with draws and reloads, this is real life, there is "no timer in gun fight" the perp isnt going to wait for a timer to get the drop on you first, even a sub second draw i have shown in my conceal and open carry video wont work if i am not situationally aware of my surroundings or mind set of getting to cover on the move defending. most defensive shootings are up close and isnt mag changes at those distances because the objective is to get to cover while shooting on the move and not standing out in the open doing fast mag changes like you see on the range with wide open space and neatly cut grass, perfectly flat terrain wich isnt that way in a gun fight, most of the time in defense situations your close enough to cover to use it right away so it doesnt look like these wide open ranges with no cover, if we shoot "pray and spray" needing another mag it only proves we are not hitting or incapacitating the threat, we should be using that ammo wisely from a place of cover not out in the open, most private citizen events there was cover nearby and rare ecception to the rule no cover, so fast mag changes are nice and are impressive but are like having a fire extiquisher you never need to put out a fire, good to have it but extremely rare you will use it, so its mostly good training that will be more fun to do it and rarely you will need it, especially doing several mag changes wich is even more rare for the trained private citizen to have to use it what mosty are close quarters events with lots with lots of cover and perp leaving so fast you cant practice your 4 or 6 magazine reloads but on the range out in the open with no threats shooting back at you
Perfect, completely efficient and timed. U.S. Desert Storm Veteran 1990-94. Thanks for that great presentation.
I watched Mike shoot a stage in IDPA once. Amazingly efficient. Thank goodness for this video, as in person he was so fast I couldn’t see how he did it.
Superb advice from Mr. Seeklander! These are much the same techniques taught so well by Mas Ayoob.
Mike Seeklander's recommended slide lock release generally works very well with 1911 pattern guns, but does not always work well with other makes (e.g., Glock, S&W M&P, etc); myself I prefer the slide lock release with 1911's, Sig's, Walther's, and CZ's. All good advice, and shooters should practice all methods of slide release Just In Case, but be most conditioned to the method which works 100% of the time, as Mike advised..
Excellent points Jeffery. Well said.
Finally, someone who suggests releasing the slide with the slide stop or slide release...whatever you wish to call it...with the WEAK HAND thumb. I have been doing that since I carried Colt 1911 in the late '70s as an LEO.
Thanks for confirming I'm not a mutant !
Right on
Great training video Thanks Mike. I train slow and smooth, proper form will lead to proper timing, it has to become a mindset where speed is only as good as developed precision.
Absolutely
Exactly!
Succinct, well-thought out with excellent demonstration. Thank you Mr. Seeklander and Wilson Combat. Great content.
Great series of videos. Very plain and easy to understand. Well done.
Awesome stuff! I appreciated the variation (for me to try) slide release with support hand thumb to maintain grip.
My topic request: how to increase speed of trigger press and maintain accuracy. Trained as a LEO to standard of accuracy over speed but would like to improve speed too.
Thanks so much!! ✨️
WOW...Cindy how refreshing to hear another LEO who desires to train...most do not. Not to mitigate what Wilson Combat has but watch this video by Ken Hackathorn a good friend of Bill Wilson.
th-cam.com/video/ho-UZ75BS58/w-d-xo.html
Thank u Mike. I myself carry the WC SFX9 3.25 model, so your vidio was perfect for me. Keep the vidio's comming. Stay safe. Oh and I am now practicing as a right handed shooter the L hand slide release. U don't have to change your grip.
Love the presentation! Simple, concise and no "bro" silliness.
Glad you liked it!
Always a great explanation from Mike.
Glad you enjoyed it
I use the term, "Shove it!" When instering a magazine as an instruction, not an insult.
Hi Mike, Always a great presentation. What I'd like to see is cross draw and 4:00 draw, which is better. Thanks.
Great info....I practice " tap and rack "more....however I do practice reloads
Keep it up
Good info as always...like to hear him emphasize dry fire practice with dummy rounds...cheap, easy and can be done most anytime.
Right on
Thank you I appreciate your advice ,
I submit for your consideration that in your Slingshot slide release that you try the palm at the base of your thumb on your off hand and the pads of your first three offhand fingers. You roll the gun to an angle to insert the mag and then roll the gun toward your offhand the same amount of degrees off center that you used to reload. This puts the slide right next to your forward pointing offhand thumb you have in positioned to regrip the gun.
What a great teaching video! Thank you for sharing your expertise.
Thanks. Good info. I like the slide lock release method. I'm going to practice this reload drill.
Glad to help
Would like to learn how to shoot through ports -- squat vs taking a knee on low ports and how to get up and move quickly after squatting or kneeling, narrow ports, trap door covered ports, etc.
I will be working on these skills this week. Thanks for the great instructions.
Good luck!
Thanks a lot. Great break down of the steps and really well explained as why you did what you did. Thanks much
Glad it was helpful!
Great tutorial! Thank you .
Hi Mike! watch you here is always a masterclass... thank you so much 🙌
Thanks
The slide lock sucks on my M&Ps. I trained for the "overhand method" because it's more reliable. I used carry a Jehrico that would drop the slide when the mag was slammed home. I've lost a little time, but training for consistency builds reliable speed. I also trained for pocket carrying mags and can still outshoot guys with red dots and mag carriers. Training and consistency is important.
Another more practical skills is the admin/tactical reload. Practice reloading behind cover and retaining the partial mag. Getting two magazines in your hand and not just dropping the mag on the floor is weird after getting the emergency reload down. And do it behind cover too so lean out after the reload.
Great content. 👍 A video that teach instead of sell. Thanks, for share your expertise.
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Thank you for taking the time to teach us!! Great video!!!!
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I'm practicing all of these fundamentals. The problem I have is, when I do these things, I don't get the same tribal drums.
I suggest going through this routine with a revolver as well.
Dry-fire to practice, live-fire to validate the practice.
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Helpful advice, thanks
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Thanks for sharing
On some you use the slide lock and some you rack it back. Any reason why? Vickers video is totally different.
Mike demonstrates 3 different ways to release the slide. Try them all to see which works for you.
Awesome, practical information, another fantastic vid 👍
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As always, excellent video. Thank you
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Thanks for sharing such amazing knowledge!!!
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Awesome video guys! Once again very informative. Thank you very much...
Our pleasure!
For me, the reload is in the same catagory as shooting from the surrender position. They are skills to devote what you believe is an appropriate amount of training, knowing that it is a very remote possibility that these would ever be used to save your life or the lives of others.
I used to use the over the top method when performing a reload, however, after seeing larry vickers release the slide with his non grip hand thumb, that is the only way I now do it.
Thanks for sharing sir i learn a lot now with that 3method
Thanks, practice time
Keep it up
mike over the years the vision isn't what is use to be I am far sighted so acquiring my front site can be challenging, can you share or make a video that might help. Thanks.
Absolutely amazing video you're awesome Very educational and when you shoot You're firearm it's amazing that slide just comes back there's no rising or anything that it's looking like. great job great video I'm a follower
Really great information.👍
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My little Taurus G2 can hold up to 13 rounds. If I can't get it done with that, split second reloading probably won't help me much. Quick draw seems to be the key to success.
Good stuff Mike!
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The 3 things I want you to pay attention to are:
1- Finger off the trigger
2 - Finger off the trigger
3 - Finger off the trigger
I’ve witnessed ND’s into the sky or ceiling and left 😧 because people don’t understand that you HAVE TO take your finger OFF the trigger while performing these reloads.
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Good skill to know when were restricted to 1 round magazines.
Great video! Good tips. Cheers
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Im very glad Mike said that tactical reloads for civilians almost never happens.
Good one.
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Thank you Bill Wilson for sharing with use. And thank you for your and your wives work in the IDPA!
Wow this is like a thesis of a reload. I never really thought of it so exact. I guess doing it for a career I never really put that much into it.
Interesting to see AIWB with the reload on the hip instead of also AIWB.
fastest way isnt always the way to do something or the way of survival, a hamster wheel is fast but gets no where if we are in a situation of missing a step getting the wagon in front of the horses, competition shooting if something goes wrong there are no consequences as in a real situation defending ourselves, pressing the mag release at the same time going for a new mag is trusting that the mag will drop free, if it doesnt then you end up having to rearrage the magazine in your left hand while using thumb and index finger to rip magazine out, though some its not a big deal it does add extra steps with that left hand having to rearrange the mag so that thumb and index finger can rip mag out, a better way in my opinion is when you press the mag release keep left hand by mag well to insure mag comes out or help rip it out using that momentum to go for the next mag, is it slower ? shure, but your inshuring that mag comes out and by this muscle memory you wont have a situation where you go for the new mag the same time you hit mag release finding out that the mag got stuck, may not happen on the range or competition shooting but has happened in gun fights alot under stress and adrenaline, israel and the IDF know this is very true also guys like nir maman teaches american swat and police and much more the method of having left hand by mag well to inshure mag comes out with rip assist with that momentum of left hand going for the new magazine, so competition shooters who worry about time would say that a mag is always going to drop free but we are not talking about competition shooting but real life and death events that happen all the time, nir maman takes serveys of swat and police or any groups he trains to verify its true these murphys law events happen like a stuck mag, so essentailly taking that extra time keeping left support hand near mag well to inshure mag drops is better then already having the spare mag having to now adjust grip on the mag so that you can use index finger and thumb to rip it out, on the range or competition shooting it may be fast and impressive for the timer but taking short cuts in steps over looking things like a mag getting stuck will set us up for a potential failure to defend ourselves or loss of life by not having the rip out magazine in our muscle memory, we should practice mag rip outs just as we do double feeds and stove pipes, if we depend or take for granted mag will aways drop free then we set ourselves up for taking more time to adjust hand on spare mag with thumb and index finger to rip magazine out and since its not practiced by many this is not a part of our immediate action muscle memory. so a hamster wheel is fast but gets us no where but a turtle racing a hampster wins the race doing things right while the hampster spins in one spot, this is why speed isnt everything if you take short cuts, doing things that take just a little extra time to inshure your firearm will be ready for immediate action like having left hand stay with mag well only untill mag drops and then go for spare mag, not go for spare mag at the same time we press the mag release. once again things that are faster are only faster if there is no consequence of a action, the action of having a mag while the mag release wont drop mag is a consequence of not being there for the mag ready if it should get stuck. reaching for new mag before a stuck magazine to remedy an situation is worse then staying with a mag to rip it out or inshure it drops free and then go for spare magazine, someone being fast at something doesnt necessarily mean they do things the right way, you can mow a lawn fast and cut a mohawk lawn, tall rows in many places so yes you mow fast but skipped parts of the lawn, thats how it is not waiting to inshure mag drops free and not rip it out first before going to spare mag to skipping a vital step that can save your life if putting that immediate action in your muscle memory tactical pistol operations, the problem also is this worship of timers and obsession of speed wich many people dont realize can also be a weakness if that speed compromises a tactic that isnt done right or skipped for the sake of speed and in competition shooting you can find many, one small example is 3 targets engaged going for targets 2 and 3 before incapaciting hits on the first, no incapacitation standard to perform on the 1st target but miss vitals and go on for a couple more double taps on targets 2 and 3, the 1st target in real life if heart didnt get hit or some vital they woud be shooting back at us and even a heart hit is not always immediate incapacitation for some, "you can only kill one person at a time" and must inshure never to break cover untill target 1 is down and then slice the pie for 2 and then 3, what they should do is only allow you 2 rounds for each target rather then a bushel of bullets under the mag well for the course, hit a hostage target "disqualfied" and miss vitals on target 1 you must keep shooting untill 2 shots in the 4 inch heart zone or 4 inch or less head zone, take the A zone commonly used and split in in half to represent a more accurate vital such as the heart. make competion targets smaller, make it so you have less ammo, call it a "limited resources drill" limited resources in all our wars men did amazing things like audie murphy and many others so never rule out a revolver or things we feel are limited resources. actually private citizen defense situations if we separate it from competition shooting its actually competition shooting in reverse, we extract ourselves from the situation while shooting on the move to get to cover if we have it futher away not closer to the threat, rare ecceptions to the rule like being a sheep dog or only forward for our escape, even law enforcement goes to the threat as competition shooters because they have to put cuffs on and a duty to chase even if in one gun fight and now a additional gun fight on the chase trying to get a surrender for cuffs on, a private citizen in most events only need to extract themselves out of the situation and have no duty to chase or get involved playing a cop or sheep dog, this is why small calibers, small pistols, revolvers and low capacity hand guns people can get by on, its because you dont need the same resources as law enforcement or military, no one drives a abrams tank to go down to the store to get a gallon of milk, the role is very different with military or even law enforcement, this is why claude werners reasearch on possible 20,000 or more highly detailed events where a private citizen used small calibers, small pistols, revolvers and low capacity hand guns and did fine in defense situations and he couldnt find any more deaths with those guns a private citizen used then larger caliber pistols and high capacity mags, nothing against high capacity but if you dont have it as a private citizen the research doesnt show your doomed just based on that because situational awareness, your training and other factors are involved to . claude werner keeps law enforcement and military stats out of private citizen stats so we have accurate data on what works just for the private citizen wich is in many ways is different then law enforcment and military defense situations needing less resources but nothing wrong with having more, this is why a revover if you train isnt a death sentence in a defense situation you still have reloads, you still need to seek cover and extract, you still need to train with it and shoot accurately, there are still other variables like situational awareness and other things that determin a outcome, you can do just as poorly with a 17 round magazine you take for granted if you dont train, not situationally aware, bad tactics, out in the open not seeking cover and many other things, all the variables or "ingredients to the cake" determin if you make a cake, leave one variable out and outcome can be just as bad even if you think its only caliber or capacity dependent
Very true about the probability of needing civilian tactical reloads. My only reason for the skill is based around magazine related malfunction. If it weren’t for that, I probably wouldn’t spend so much time practicing reloading.
I greatly admire Mike's talent and experience. However as a Range Safety Officer at a small range with only a 90 degree safety angle, I have to mention that his muzzle is close to a 150-degree angle. Not a problem on the outdoor range he is on, but an issue in some circumstances, not just at a range, but in real world circumstances. it is unlikely someone with his ability would make a mistake, but not all of us are at his level. Muzzle direction awareness is critical in all circumstances.
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My "defensive" purposes involve a larger force of armored hostile combatants voilently forcing their way into an unauthorized zone. So I practice reloads often.
Excellant video. Better that any from the Fudd Guys.
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So what happens when they are shooting back at you? You’re going to reload without cover?
Move and learn to reload on the move.
The time I see a reload come in to play in a defensive situation for civilians is if they inadvertently hit the mag release
In a self defense situation. The less you send down range the better.
Kinda surprised there wasn’t a turning of the wrist to flip the mag out. Maybe it was just where I was trained.
How about an old school bullseye match between Mike, Bill and Ken.
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One size does NOT fit all! My right thumb extends 9/16" in front of the slide lock, so actuating the slide lock with my right thumb works the best for me. I don't need to rotate the pistol in my hand in order to actuate the magazine release. (Many people need to rotate the pistol in their hand to reach the magazine release with their thumb.) I have no difficulties inserting a magazine blindfolded. That is how I practice. But that doesn't cost me a dime. Finding the time and money to target practice is the more difficult challenge.
Great, thanks Mike! No live fire in the bedroom! Ha ha
Boom!
Decades stats and research of law enforcement and military was lumped into defense research of private citizens, this is where the missconceptions started about things like a revolver, or small caliber semi auto being not adequate for defense, but still we train with what we carry but the role of a well trained private citizen is to defend while seeking cover wich is almost available in every defense shooting, the trained citizen extracts themselves from the situtation, where as law enforcement and military its a chase to go get the perp requirements now of more resources including more ammo and possible mag changes unlike the trained private citizen who open or conceal carrys but trains with what they carry, private citizens do not have to chase unless they feel like being a sheep dog or play cop, very rare will you have to chase, as far mag capacity what happens is you run out of time before running out of ammo, especially trained private citizens train in using ammo wisely and not praying and spraying and are more likely to fire a shot and get to cover, not standing out in the open like you see in videos with gangs and untrained private citizens, when a private citizen loses a defense situation usually people blame the guns caliber, capacity but successful defense has much more to do with the person behind the gun and training with the gun they carry. Another thing is gun fights happen so fast the bad guys dont even know what caliber, capacity or type of gun we have, nor are they interested in math counting shots fired, so even if its a revolver no one is going to stick around counting shots saying "hes out, he fired 6" a Cleveland ohio bar was cleared out of over 100 people tripping over each other because a guy shot a 6 shot revolver, no one was counting shots, no one said "its only a 6 shot revolver" no one may even see it to know that it was a revolver, remember we had couple hundred years of revolvers getting the job done, even amoung law enforcement if you take the numbers they killed with revolvers verses the number of officers losing their life using a revolver its very small and many forget police with revolvers killed guys who used full autos and shotguns against them, jim cirrilo and guys like that that said if you use a revolver train with it, many police back then just would qualify and rarely practice with defense drills, jeff cooper himself mentioned this, so when you hear stories about a cop reloading a revolver behind his car and not having time to reload as bad guy comes around to shoot him, they use this to show revolvers are bad for defense but a private citizen even back then didnt have to chase a bad guy, there is a big difference in a private citizen using revolver to fire a shot and get to cover extracting himself then a police officer who had a short gun fight but now must get into another gun fight as he chases a suspect, this is more resources dependent because you are going to the bad guy into danger where as a private citizen is getting away defending and using extraction tactics. much respect for law enforcement having to go into the lion cage but a prvate citizen can watch through the fense, when you have duty to go to danger and trouble its much different then a private cirizen whi has no dury but to defend while extracting themselves, this leaves law enforcement the greater disadvantaged to be ambushed and picked off bu crimminals who run that they have to chase even if they were unsuccessful in the first shootout, the main thing if your LEO is ask your self where is my tree, my telephone pole or any cover as i come out of the pocket to get closer to the suspect putting on cuffs or yet another shoot out, recently in a shootout video a cop used a telephone pole on a guy who wouldnt get out of car then would keep his hands still and abushed 2 officers closest to him giving them hardly time to respond, but private citizens are not doing traffic stops having to deal with those ambushes and many shots fired, so the stats and research of law enforcement should never be lumped or blended in with what the private citizen needs as far as a gun, caliber or capacity because the role is very different with some rare exceptions to that rule
You train for reloads because you might need to perform this skill under the worst of circumstances-contrary to popular belief-you will NOT rise to the occasion,you’ll sink to your level of training.
This is an important skill, but it makes the idea of limiting capacity to the magic number of 10 (or according to the president, now only 8). You'd think you'd want the average person to have as many rounds as possible.
Mike need brake down shooting for (Female in a Wheelchair-Self Defensive time) Nampa, Idaho 64 Year old Female Glock 17 G3) 10/24/2022.
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Glock just slap it in
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Too much talking.