I own my 20VT (100% original, no mods) for some time already and I have exactly the same thoughts: surprisingly practical, quite comfortable, adorable, great sound (especially when you open the window and listen to the turbo and the blow-off). Quite easy on juice as well if you do not push too hard. I have done 1000km trips in this thing and that was not bad at all. You would be surprised how good this little Fiat is as a daily driver, especially if you don't want to drive some mainstream cars. Not to mention that not too many of them will be able to catch you ;)
Yes that's a perfectly fair review. Owned 3 of these back in the day - all Sprint Blue 20vt - and loved them. Ok I was younger, poorer and less experienced and I'm sure today it would feel a little compromised but as it was my first properly fast car it felt like a rocket even before I chipped it. Lots of maintenance needed but they are inherently reliable and well built. One of the most special interiors I think - that colour coded strip looks terrific in blue or yellow. If I had a 10 car garage there would be one tucked away in the corner.
I had a green one and people commented that the bonnet looked like those kids wellies with the frog eyes on top! I had great fun in mine right up until I blew the turbo on an enthusiastic drive. I got it fixed (not too expensive really) and enjoyed the sound from the engine for a bit longer. It definitely felt special beyond it's price tag.
When you said one of this week's cars was a 5 cylinder sports car, I somehow just knew it was one of these. And to answer your question.. these are seriously cool.
My wife had one for 50,000 miles - very reliable, excellent car. Great interior, lots of go (ours was a non-turbo, but still went well) and styling you can't ignore. Buy one that is unmodified as in future they will be the ones worth keeping. Definitely a car that is under valued. Great review.
I own a 20vt coupe, what an amazing car it is, beautiful and unique looking both inside and out with insane performance, there is something about them!
It was a fantastic car back in the day, and it still look special today! The car design was ahead of its time. Especially the Plus version with the 6 Speed, better Brakes and Recaro seats was a blast. This car is a proper GT not a Track car. It embarrassed quite a lot of cars on the Autobahn. The looks of Porsche owners when you showed up next to them at 250kmh in a frigging Fiat were priceless. Even tough they were driving totally relaxed, and I was sweating from death fear! If you dynoed it it would show up easily 20 hp more then it claimed to have, and the 5 cylinder sound is unique. The engine holds up to quite a good amount of boost. 280hp with stock internals is no problem. The one thing I never understood is that there was never a decent aftermarket suspension like Bilstein b14, or kw v3 for this car. I had mine one an Eibach/Koni suspension with camber bolts in the front and strut bars, this was already alot more nimble, but it's still far away from a corner carver. Still today I'm struggling to choose a wheelset that looks good on this car. I had Borbet "A" wheels with polished rim beds on mine. The 16" look so small, bit it actually rides better. Quite a lot drove it with Porsche rims. I think this and the Fiat Dino are the best Fiats ever made!
Fantastic car. Restored mine, engine full overhaul with new crank, forged wossner parts, new bearings etc.. full re-paint, bilstein shocks, eiback pro kit springs, gtec and catback straight pipe, k&n cold air intake, upgraded radiator and cooling pioes...It took 2 years and now it is a dream came true. But it looks perfect only with the j7 rims. (Mine is a 20v Turbo Plus which was equipped with the big brembo calipers and the j7 rims with the splitted sprockets and it has 6 spd gearbox.) It is really a beast, it pulls the speedo over its top mark which is not 260 in the Plus models just saying..... I will never sell it, this was my dream car since its debut and now it is in my garage. Also worth to mention, it is 21 years old now but it has no rust issues at all. The previous owner was really crude to the engine (it was burned toasted fried and cooked :) and that’s the case when you buy a classic turbo petrol car)) but the car was always washed well and stored in a dry place. I will never use it in rainy weather or in wintertime at all. (Ok, it is not so difficult while I live outside the UK :D) So it worth every penny but only if you take it serious. Buy it, overhaul the engine correctly, inspect the suspension and upgrade at least the rear shocks to b6 bilstein to make it more balanced (it has all the mass in the front). Warm up well before hard accelerations and let it cool down while idleing -if you pushed hard- at least 15 minutes. Use only the factory 10w60 selenia racing oil and good quality filters and replace them in every 5k or per year. Use only 100 octane fuel. That’s it. Maybe it seems too much but this is how you should handle ANY petrol turbo car.. happy Coupe-ing and a much happier 2021...
No doubt about the Fiat Coupe being cool. A very daring piece of design, a superb interior, good performance. One of the the very few 90's cars which qualifies as a proper classic. Fabulous.
It is a beauty and very distinctive. My friend had one new, back in the day, and I remember a story he told me in its development. The mgmt said if there was a squeek or rattle in the prototype car, they would all be sacked. It was taken very seriously, for a Fiat. I loved being chauffeured and that 5 cylinder growl is still with me.
Been driving a 20VT for the past 20+ yrs. Not as a daily obviously, maybe 2-3k miles per year. In summary: brilliant car. It shares the garage with some more expensive Italian exotics, but it fares well against them. Design ages well, engine sounds marvelous and delivers strong mid range urge. Does 270kmh on the autobahn (probably 250 in reality) but I don’t do that too often anymore. Car has been 100% reliable. Never broke down, never had any unscheduled things to be done on the car. Maintenance is mandatory. This is an ageing turbocharged Italian car, so it needs a mature driver and specialist. Warm up and cool down are mandatory as well. Taking it 2km to the supermarket is a no go. If you want one - get one. They are spectacular. But beware: as said in this video, they are either dogs or cherished. Too many have been killed by boy racers chiptuning them.
As a Coupe 20vt owner for 17 years now , in regards the handling I've found that entering the corner at speed : set car up upon corner entry with brakes , enter corner , mid way through corner apply gas smoothly and let the viscodrive pull you out the other side , then much gas and fly down the straight.
Owned a 20vT in Sprint Blue, the colour everyone loves 15 years ago, Zender Bodykit, 18" Azev Alloys, lowered by 40mm and Novitec Chip which took it to around 250bhp. It was a striking looking car and got lots of good comments from the FCCUK site and out on the road. One or two Achilles heels, manifold cracking, cambelt failure mostly due to auxilliary belt failure taking out the cambelt and Oil Cooler pipes rusting, none of which I suffered I'm pleased to say. Definitely its main weakness was the chassis as James says, a modern futuristic but controversial styled body attached to an old and dated Fiat Tipo chassis which flexed like cardboard. I fitted a Strut Brace to the front which did improve the rigidity slightly. Remember blowing away many rivals in their Type R's, Scooby's, M3's and even a 911, seriously quick in their day off the mark at 0-60 in 5.5 secs when you got the front wheels to grip. Lots of fun which I remember well.
I believe that (for the most part) if a car’s styling divides opinion, then that’s always a good thing. If they had sold in the US I’d have bought one, mostly for the styling inside and out, and for that glorious noise.
So many amazing cars from the 90’s and 00’s available in Europe and the UK. I absolutely love this era of design, especially interior for some reason. Having grown up in the late 90’s and learning to drive in the early 00’s cars of this era are the ultimate nostalgia for me, even if there were no FIATs around (or any French hatchbacks for that matter). I grew up with VW’s and Audis and came to learn about Japanese sport compacts in my teens. There’s an honesty and rawness to these cars that modern ones have lost. I really appreciate this series of videos you’re doing and can’t wait for more!
I had a 20v turbo Plus for 4 years. It had a Fiat fitted warranty new engine on 10k in a car with 50k ish at 10 years old. Chipped to 280 hp it was very fast but a mare to drive. Took the chip out to discover that people who design cars know what they are doing. Let’s be reasonable, 220 hp is enough for any sane person through front wheel drive. In this standard configuration it was completely forgiving in normal driving and fun when pushed. As the video suggests, if you set it up and keep it balanced it’s a surprisingly good car at speeds in most situations through corners. If your speed exceeds your your talent it’ll bite you in the ass and it serves you right. I loved it and would have another in a heartbeat. Well built, lovely to drive and be in. The 5 cylinder engine is a lovely thing. I might even go for the non turbo, as whilst the turbo is fun fun fun for a shunt in the back, I wonder if the progressive power on offer in the normally aspirated version might be more rewarding to drive .
My dad used to have the 16V Turbo and it was actually one of the first cars I drove on a longer trip after getting my license. I remember distinctively how enjoyable it was to change down to 3rd to get the turbo spooling up and overtake slower traffic on a single carriageway. It wasn't particularly fast when taking off from standstill but when you had the revs up it picked up really nicely.
the BEST looking attainable(20k ish) new car back in the 90s.. yellow is the colour, then the bugatti blue Jay mentions, has to be the 5 cylinder 20v Turbo too, what a sound!
One of the best looking cars ever. Every colour looked great on the 20v turbo. Kind of the spiritual successor to the Alfa SZ from a looks perspective.
I remember in around 2001 one of the guys I worked with had one of these and I lusted after it. But my dad worked for Caffyns/Rover at the time and I ended up with the Rover Coupe 220 Turbo..... both epic cars of their time and great fun to be it. Ah to be 21 again.
I remember my folks going to buy one of these new but they backed out because the insurance was insane, like so insane they got an RS Turbo instead and that worked out cheaper to tax, insure and run! They look great, inside and out, and I think they have that "Ford Puma Factor" in that they're a late 90's car that still holds up style wise today.
@colin bkk we were always a Ford family when I was growing up, my old man worked in their bodyshops for about 25 of the 30-odd years he was a panel beater, they'd had countless XR2s and 3s and I think the Fiat Coupe was just such a radical departure in style that they were immediately struck by it, it wasn't until the question of insurance and running costs came up that they backed off it. Weirdly they went from potentially buying a bright yellow Fiat, to actually buying a Mercury Grey S2, bit of a difference! Its one in a long list of my dad's "why did I sell that?" cars
I know what you mean about the same train of thoughts as the Alfa GTV in looks but I like the two of them. You instantly know what your looking at. Lovely looking cars
As a long term owner, I would highly recommend them. Sadly rust is beginning to take its toll, so fewer a fewer about, increasing their rarity. As Jay says they sound great, have interesting looks, go well, and are perhaps only really let down by the brakes not being up to modern standards. The Fiat Coupe UK car club is a must for any new owners, with lots of advice. access to spares etc. Capable too of 150k plus mileage.
Absolutely love Jay's review on this car, must say it's the best of his vlogs, and understandably so for he grew up with three of these ! Absolutely love the look of the Fiat Coupé, definitely tops the look of an Alfa gtv by miles !
Yes ! Cool looking like a scaled down supercar, it ages well, like a Ferrari Dino. The Fiat Coupe of around year 2000 is the car I've requested you to review whenever you polled us. I remember seeing these on the road, but never in USA.
I owned a yellow 20v coupe and it was amazing. Beautiful styling and great performance for the day. A lovely exhaust note from the 5 cylinder engine made it a really attractive package. The CAM belt change was expensive but I didn't care. I loved it. 😁
@@hrgiyzueghe I see the appeal of white wheels but I would just be boring and go for standard aftermarket alloys. If I had one I would also do all the usual stuff new exhaust suspension upgrades. I'm pretty boring
Good video. A good mate has a Broom Yellow 20v Turbo, mild map circa 275 bhp, owned it for 18 years now, lovely car. He changed the standard 16" wheels over to 18" several years ago, looked superb but it didn't do the ride/ handling any favours whatsoever. He recently seen sense and refurbed his stock wheels and refitted them. Total transformation. A lot of car for the money these at present if you find a good one.
My uncle had the 20v non-turbo. Green over tan. It was beautiful. We were coming back from the motor show in Birmingham in 98, and we were doing 70mph (🙄) in 3rd and it sounded so good. A handful of years later my manager bought a 20v turbo. When he first put his foot down with me in the car, I remember panicking and reaching out for something to grab out of shear fear! 😂😂 I wasn’t a huge fan of the turbo versions. Felt the NA ones were a lot more “sensible”.
Love the daring styling, some people want to disappear into the background, this not so much. Breath of fresh, bold air. Can't speak to the dynamics as we never got them in the States.
James I worked at the Fiat dealers when these were new and they were certainly considered as something special then. Some magazines even rated it better than the GTV. The 20v engine was also put in the Bravo HGT which was rapid in a straight line and could eat front tyres if you were not careful.
Having owned both i would say magazines were wrong. The problem was the Fiat was better than expected and the Alfa was worse than hoped for but in reality the multilink on the rear of the GTV does make a vast difference. Once the Q2 diff is slotted into the GTV 3.0 it is game over. Despite the awful chassis the 5 pot is a truly great engine and theres a unique, quirky and fun character to the Coupe 20VT that always appeals
These remain one of my favourite cars and I'm keen to do my own feature on the channel. My thoughts are that these will rise in value .. I see them as under appreciated. If you can overlook some of the niggles they remain one of the best looking coupes ever made in my opinion. Especially in some of the more funky colours! They may be a little niche still but people are catching onto them at last. Great video as usual! I'm still after a collaboration by the way haha
Amazing cars, I’ve owned 3 of these in the past myself, one in broom yellow, one in speed red, one in ink black. The ‘Bugatti blue’ that you mentioned is called Sprint Blue and is very eye-catching. Not keen on this example as looks a bit boring in Steel Grey, I don’t like the de-badging on the front of this example as well. They look incredible in broom yellow or speed red and Vinci grey, beautiful head turning cars and sound amazing, stunning interior also. Go through a tunnel and floor it, wow!
I loved my yellow one from the late 90's. With its Pininfarina design, and the distinctive design touches I managed to convince myself I was driving a baby Ferrari! The brighter colours were best, because then you had the full impact on the interior. It also had the performance to match those looks, and one of the journos at the time said, "in a line of traffic, it wasn't a case of whether I could overtake, more a case of how many I was going to overtake"! It was the closest I ever thought I'd get to a Ferrari......until I bought my 550 a couple of years ago.
James I think the blue you were referring to is Sprint Blue. My brother had a 20v Turbo. Shame you didn’t drive a standard one. They are tyre-sensitive as well- proper grippy tyres (standard were Pirelli P Zeros) have the car a more trustworthy balance, that would banish understeer if on less grippy rubber. In standard turbo-guise, the engine was very torquey, with little to no turbo lag, and a great 5 cylinder sound. Loved my brother’s car. Wish he’d kept it
Had a 20V Turbo from new. Brilliant engine, acceptable handling, great interior, giant boot, seats need more support. Traded it in for a TVR Griffith 500.
I had 2 , a 20vt and a 20vt+. Glorious cars. Best colour was yellow 🤩. I notice the car in the vid has the aftermarket metal dial rings which really set it off.
Had one, mapped by Fc performance, all done up with dual friction fc motorsports clutch etc. Was an amazing car, and surprisingly very reliable, has never let me down.
To answer your question Jay, it's a "YES"! One of the all time great designs, it looked like nothing that had come before it and nothing that has come after. It's bold in the way that the Alfa SZ was, but prettier - and even better, it was accessible to the everyday driver. Fast as hell, amazing soundtrack (the 20v at least), cool interior, decent rear seats, interesting handling - what's not to love?!
I still remember the excitement, being taken to the fiat dealership when my father was buying his new car. A 7 year old car obsessed lad, I sat in a green one for the entire time we were there. And when we drove home, it was in their ex demonstrator Fiat Punto, I was gutted.
10:26 - "those little skinny front tyres" .... 205 section if I remember rightly and that's not skinny on a FWD car..... drive a Ford Puma on 195 section tyres and see how you don't need wide tyres to generate good front end grip....... it's all about the chassis balance. I remember someone once saying in a car magazine about a car that it was "Over Tyred", meaning that as many modern cars these days are, the tyres offer more grip than the chassis can cope with.... look at an entry level Caterham, original lotus elise or low formula race cars - they make more use of the grip offered up by their narrower tyres...... same thing how you can ruin a cars handling by putting wider wheels and tyres on it.
I had a properly tuned big turbo 20vt and it was the fastest car I’ve ever had once rolling and I’ve had GT Four’s, 996’s, E46 M3’s, and an Evo 6. 40-100 mph in a tuned one is very impressive.
When I bought my Plus I had the shocks and springs replaced all around with new stock monroe items. Since then the car has handled like its on rails... I have absolute confidence in it - often I throw it around just to try to get it to step out but it never does.
I have been playing the dangerous game that is looking at cars on eBay the last few days, these fiats actually... now this pops up, it’s a sign, must buy a 20v coupe...
@Spanish John already done that one, nice car but broke a lot and did'nt have much character, newer Audi as a daily makes sense, as a classic or toy they just dont have that X factor for me
I inherited yellow 5 cylinder coupe for a few months, waiting for my company car in 1998, it was brilliant fun and very fast for the time and probably quite quick today.
Janky do thanky, yes! Was so hoping this would pop up in a review. Never got these in the states and have always lusted after one, 4 spoke wheels are funky but very Fiat, harkening at least as far back as the X1/9. One of the cleanest and most iconic rear ends imho. Great review.
Are you kidding me? I asked for the Smart Forfour Brabus & The Fiat Coupe 20vt in one of my previous comments in one of your videos and it's almost as if you have directly responded to my wish! One after the other! Not sure if that is the case but feeling spoilt none the less! Major props to you James!
I had three. Turbo, LE and a Plus. They are money pits, but on the plus side that five cylinder engine is a peach and the shape is amazing, like nothing else like it I think.
I remember driving the bosses one of those when it first came out I was in the rain, and the brakes being very scary as I came to my first roundabout, and I was use to an MR2 trying to kill me as my daily. Still was a very cool car!
My friend mom was going to bay a new car, there where several cars on the table, BMW etc.. It was important to us because we where still in scool and he could pretty much borow her car when ever. One day he told me that her mom bought a freaking fiat... We where so disapointed..... But then there it was, a Bugatti blue 20 valve turbo.. Man we had alot off fun that summer!
I had 2 of these back in the 90's. Regretted selling the first one after I bought my first house, having bought a cheaper Peugeot 306 GTI-6, which I hated! So much so, I bought another one 8 months later, at great financial loss of course! Sprint blue was the only colour to have IMHO and was only available on the 20v Turbo model... flawed, but brilliant fun!
My sister had one of these in “Highland Green” made a noise like the original Audi Quattro, but you’re right about the handling. But is it a cool car - you Betcha 👍🏻
Nice video. I've had one of these for 20 years. Needed to trade it for a family car (530D BMW) when the kids got into their teens back in 2007. The garage offered me such a small amount for it, on a trade in, I kept it stored in the garage. Now the BMW is scrap and the Fiat is back on the road! These really are quite addictive cars in a retro 90’s way. Similar performance on paper to my Mini JCW but the Fiat feels way faster once rolling - 70 odd in second and 3rd will take you from 5mph to 100+ all with that 5 pot sound!
I like it, but love the GTV. My neighbour had one in yellow in the late 90s, even being five years old back then I still remember its distinctive shape.
Yes James, very cool cars! Personally I love the styling, and think if anything it's got better with age. Some of the members club cars are running really silly numbers as they're easy to tune.
These are really cool. I totally agree James I loved that shade of blue they came in. Haven't seen one of these on the roads now for a good number of years, think they still look great even now.
Inline 5 has to be one of the best sounding engine layouts out there
Yep, only when you get to a V8 is it surpassed. 6 cylinders still sound good, but not as good as a 5 imo.
If you don't love the noise an I5 or a V10 makes, you're not friend of mine.
well besides a v10 or v12 of course
I bought a VW Bora VR5 for the sound alone.
I own my 20VT (100% original, no mods) for some time already and I have exactly the same thoughts: surprisingly practical, quite comfortable, adorable, great sound (especially when you open the window and listen to the turbo and the blow-off). Quite easy on juice as well if you do not push too hard. I have done 1000km trips in this thing and that was not bad at all. You would be surprised how good this little Fiat is as a daily driver, especially if you don't want to drive some mainstream cars. Not to mention that not too many of them will be able to catch you ;)
I absolutely love how they look, especially the distinct yellow coloured ones, fond memories from Gran Turismo 2 as well
Fiat X1/9 looks better
The yellow ones were awesome
Welp. Looks are really subjective. I think this is one of the ugliest cars ever built.
@@tolga1cool I thought the same first time I saw it and I was laughing at people saying it’s beautiful
Frog marrying crocodile... Making love and the child is FIAT COUPE
I had one 2 years ago utterly fantastic, the 5 cylinder snarl sounds like a baby V10, one of the best cars I’ve owned, regret selling it
It's amazing how little this car has aged
Yes that's a perfectly fair review. Owned 3 of these back in the day - all Sprint Blue 20vt - and loved them. Ok I was younger, poorer and less experienced and I'm sure today it would feel a little compromised but as it was my first properly fast car it felt like a rocket even before I chipped it. Lots of maintenance needed but they are inherently reliable and well built. One of the most special interiors I think - that colour coded strip looks terrific in blue or yellow. If I had a 10 car garage there would be one tucked away in the corner.
Gorgeous looking car, I'd have one in a heartbeat. Loved these from when they first came out. They looked incredible then and I think they still do.
I had a green one and people commented that the bonnet looked like those kids wellies with the frog eyes on top! I had great fun in mine right up until I blew the turbo on an enthusiastic drive.
I got it fixed (not too expensive really) and enjoyed the sound from the engine for a bit longer. It definitely felt special beyond it's price tag.
When you said one of this week's cars was a 5 cylinder sports car, I somehow just knew it was one of these. And to answer your question.. these are seriously cool.
My wife had one for 50,000 miles - very reliable, excellent car. Great interior, lots of go (ours was a non-turbo, but still went well) and styling you can't ignore. Buy one that is unmodified as in future they will be the ones worth keeping. Definitely a car that is under valued. Great review.
I own a 20vt coupe, what an amazing car it is, beautiful and unique looking both inside and out with insane performance, there is something about them!
Best 1000 pounds I've ever spent, will never sell mine , nice wee review , handling is just fine if you know how to drive them
Handling is not fine if that's not your style, dude. :)
It was a fantastic car back in the day, and it still look special today!
The car design was ahead of its time. Especially the Plus version with the 6 Speed, better Brakes and Recaro seats was a blast.
This car is a proper GT not a Track car. It embarrassed quite a lot of cars on the Autobahn. The looks of Porsche owners when you showed up next to them at 250kmh in a frigging Fiat were priceless. Even tough they were driving totally relaxed, and I was sweating from death fear!
If you dynoed it it would show up easily 20 hp more then it claimed to have, and the 5 cylinder sound is unique. The engine holds up to quite a good amount of boost. 280hp with stock internals is no problem.
The one thing I never understood is that there was never a decent aftermarket suspension like Bilstein b14, or kw v3 for this car.
I had mine one an Eibach/Koni suspension with camber bolts in the front and strut bars, this was already alot more nimble, but it's still far away from a corner carver.
Still today I'm struggling to choose a wheelset that looks good on this car. I had Borbet "A" wheels with polished rim beds on mine. The 16" look so small, bit it actually rides better.
Quite a lot drove it with Porsche rims.
I think this and the Fiat Dino are the best Fiats ever made!
Chris Bangle is a cool designer who was ahead of his time...
he was a hit or miss really, sometimes even on a same car
didn't he design wonky BMWs? None of which got made??
What ever became of him?
@@nakoma5 Started his own design firm.
@@ArmadaAsesino I looked it up, can't find any current information on his design firm or his modern ventures.
Fantastic car. Restored mine, engine full overhaul with new crank, forged wossner parts, new bearings etc.. full re-paint, bilstein shocks, eiback pro kit springs, gtec and catback straight pipe, k&n cold air intake, upgraded radiator and cooling pioes...It took 2 years and now it is a dream came true. But it looks perfect only with the j7 rims. (Mine is a 20v Turbo Plus which was equipped with the big brembo calipers and the j7 rims with the splitted sprockets and it has 6 spd gearbox.) It is really a beast, it pulls the speedo over its top mark which is not 260 in the Plus models just saying..... I will never sell it, this was my dream car since its debut and now it is in my garage. Also worth to mention, it is 21 years old now but it has no rust issues at all. The previous owner was really crude to the engine (it was burned toasted fried and cooked :) and that’s the case when you buy a classic turbo petrol car)) but the car was always washed well and stored in a dry place. I will never use it in rainy weather or in wintertime at all. (Ok, it is not so difficult while I live outside the UK :D) So it worth every penny but only if you take it serious. Buy it, overhaul the engine correctly, inspect the suspension and upgrade at least the rear shocks to b6 bilstein to make it more balanced (it has all the mass in the front). Warm up well before hard accelerations and let it cool down while idleing -if you pushed hard- at least 15 minutes. Use only the factory 10w60 selenia racing oil and good quality filters and replace them in every 5k or per year. Use only 100 octane fuel. That’s it. Maybe it seems too much but this is how you should handle ANY petrol turbo car.. happy Coupe-ing and a much happier 2021...
I wasn't so keen on these until I drove my mates and then went and bought one. Got to say the noise is awesome
I had a Marea 20v 5cyl non turbo, I loved, LOVED, loved that engine
No doubt about the Fiat Coupe being cool. A very daring piece of design, a superb interior, good performance. One of the the very few 90's cars which qualifies as a proper classic. Fabulous.
It is a beauty and very distinctive. My friend had one new, back in the day, and I remember a story he told me in its development. The mgmt said if there was a squeek or rattle in the prototype car, they would all be sacked. It was taken very seriously, for a Fiat. I loved being chauffeured and that 5 cylinder growl is still with me.
Been driving a 20VT for the past 20+ yrs. Not as a daily obviously, maybe 2-3k miles per year.
In summary: brilliant car. It shares the garage with some more expensive Italian exotics, but it fares well against them. Design ages well, engine sounds marvelous and delivers strong mid range urge. Does 270kmh on the autobahn (probably 250 in reality) but I don’t do that too often anymore.
Car has been 100% reliable. Never broke down, never had any unscheduled things to be done on the car. Maintenance is mandatory. This is an ageing turbocharged Italian car, so it needs a mature driver and specialist. Warm up and cool down are mandatory as well. Taking it 2km to the supermarket is a no go.
If you want one - get one. They are spectacular. But beware: as said in this video, they are either dogs or cherished.
Too many have been killed by boy racers chiptuning them.
As a Coupe 20vt owner for 17 years now , in regards the handling I've found that entering the corner at speed : set car up upon corner entry with brakes , enter corner , mid way through corner apply gas smoothly and let the viscodrive pull you out the other side , then much gas and fly down the straight.
Owned a 20vT in Sprint Blue, the colour everyone loves 15 years ago, Zender Bodykit, 18" Azev Alloys, lowered by 40mm and Novitec Chip which took it to around 250bhp.
It was a striking looking car and got lots of good comments from the FCCUK site and out on the road.
One or two Achilles heels, manifold cracking, cambelt failure mostly due to auxilliary belt failure taking out the cambelt and Oil Cooler pipes rusting, none of which I suffered I'm pleased to say. Definitely its main weakness was the chassis as James says, a modern futuristic but controversial styled body attached to an old and dated Fiat Tipo chassis which flexed like cardboard. I fitted a Strut Brace to the front which did improve the rigidity slightly.
Remember blowing away many rivals in their Type R's, Scooby's, M3's and even a 911, seriously quick in their day off the mark at 0-60 in 5.5 secs when you got the front wheels to grip.
Lots of fun which I remember well.
I had a purple one, it was awesome. It’s beautiful front and sides, so so rear.
I believe that (for the most part) if a car’s styling divides opinion, then that’s always a good thing. If they had sold in the US I’d have bought one, mostly for the styling inside and out, and for that glorious noise.
In the USA you have the Korean version of the Fiat coupe: the Tiburon 😊
Had one of these a good few years back, absolutely loved it, but she did spend a lot of time in the garage getting fixed.
Yes. Cool car. Chris Bangle stuff is gonna be desirable in the not too distant future, I reckon.
@Modern Classic Collectables I think his designs are quite brave and distinctive, they define the nineties and early 00's car design pretty well.
So many amazing cars from the 90’s and 00’s available in Europe and the UK. I absolutely love this era of design, especially interior for some reason. Having grown up in the late 90’s and learning to drive in the early 00’s cars of this era are the ultimate nostalgia for me, even if there were no FIATs around (or any French hatchbacks for that matter). I grew up with VW’s and Audis and came to learn about Japanese sport compacts in my teens. There’s an honesty and rawness to these cars that modern ones have lost. I really appreciate this series of videos you’re doing and can’t wait for more!
I had a 20v turbo Plus for 4 years. It had a Fiat fitted warranty new engine on 10k in a car with 50k ish at 10 years old. Chipped to 280 hp it was very fast but a mare to drive. Took the chip out to discover that people who design cars know what they are doing. Let’s be reasonable, 220 hp is enough for any sane person through front wheel drive. In this standard configuration it was completely forgiving in normal driving and fun when pushed. As the video suggests, if you set it up and keep it balanced it’s a surprisingly good car at speeds in most situations through corners. If your speed exceeds your your talent it’ll bite you in the ass and it serves you right.
I loved it and would have another in a heartbeat. Well built, lovely to drive and be in. The 5 cylinder engine is a lovely thing. I might even go for the non turbo, as whilst the turbo is fun fun fun for a shunt in the back, I wonder if the progressive power on offer in the normally aspirated version might be more rewarding to drive .
Had a little smile about the styling comment . I’ve had my Coupe 15 months and am unsure about its styling at times ! Certainly gets noticed though.
It's a thing of beauty love it always wanted one
My dad used to have the 16V Turbo and it was actually one of the first cars I drove on a longer trip after getting my license. I remember distinctively how enjoyable it was to change down to 3rd to get the turbo spooling up and overtake slower traffic on a single carriageway. It wasn't particularly fast when taking off from standstill but when you had the revs up it picked up really nicely.
the BEST looking attainable(20k ish) new car back in the 90s.. yellow is the colour, then the bugatti blue Jay mentions, has to be the 5 cylinder 20v Turbo too, what a sound!
Its called sprint blue. Its not quite Bugatti blue. Thats a somewhat lighter shadeI believe….
One of the best looking cars ever. Every colour looked great on the 20v turbo. Kind of the spiritual successor to the Alfa SZ from a looks perspective.
I remember in around 2001 one of the guys I worked with had one of these and I lusted after it. But my dad worked for Caffyns/Rover at the time and I ended up with the Rover Coupe 220 Turbo..... both epic cars of their time and great fun to be it. Ah to be 21 again.
I remember my folks going to buy one of these new but they backed out because the insurance was insane, like so insane they got an RS Turbo instead and that worked out cheaper to tax, insure and run!
They look great, inside and out, and I think they have that "Ford Puma Factor" in that they're a late 90's car that still holds up style wise today.
@colin bkk Escort. Obviously not from the same dealer.
@colin bkk we were always a Ford family when I was growing up, my old man worked in their bodyshops for about 25 of the 30-odd years he was a panel beater, they'd had countless XR2s and 3s and I think the Fiat Coupe was just such a radical departure in style that they were immediately struck by it, it wasn't until the question of insurance and running costs came up that they backed off it.
Weirdly they went from potentially buying a bright yellow Fiat, to actually buying a Mercury Grey S2, bit of a difference! Its one in a long list of my dad's "why did I sell that?" cars
I owned a Tipo16v and I always fancied one of these .
A Sedicivalvole . I bought the sticker for my 1.4 DGT when I was a kid 😂
I know what you mean about the same train of thoughts as the Alfa GTV in looks but I like the two of them. You instantly know what your looking at. Lovely looking cars
Were they related underpinning wise or not at all? Cant remember. Im sure this won what car coupe of the year in 96.
Yeah..looks like a GTV crossed with a Mitsubishi FTO
As a long term owner, I would highly recommend them. Sadly rust is beginning to take its toll, so fewer a fewer about, increasing their rarity. As Jay says they sound great, have interesting looks, go well, and are perhaps only really let down by the brakes not being up to modern standards. The Fiat Coupe UK car club is a must for any new owners, with lots of advice. access to spares etc. Capable too of 150k plus mileage.
Absolutely love Jay's review on this car, must say it's the best of his vlogs, and understandably so for he grew up with three of these ! Absolutely love the look of the Fiat Coupé, definitely tops the look of an Alfa gtv by miles !
Yes ! Cool looking like a scaled down supercar, it ages well, like a Ferrari Dino. The Fiat Coupe of around year 2000 is the car I've requested you to review whenever you polled us. I remember seeing these on the road, but never in USA.
I do like how these look and will always remember as a kid someone had a red one in Nottingham and had decided to put Ferrari badges on it.
These cars are amazing. I have one and have owned one for the past 20 year's 😍🥰
I owned a yellow 20v coupe and it was amazing. Beautiful styling and great performance for the day. A lovely exhaust note from the 5 cylinder engine made it a really attractive package. The CAM belt change was expensive but I didn't care. I loved it. 😁
Finally, my dream car. Looks mad is a bit shit but I adore it. A truely memorable car especially in blue.
Yeah blue with white wheels is perfect, have a look at this one, converted to 4x4 :P qparQ7B-c4s
@@hrgiyzueghe I see the appeal of white wheels but I would just be boring and go for standard aftermarket alloys. If I had one I would also do all the usual stuff new exhaust suspension upgrades. I'm pretty boring
I still have one in blue with LE kit on. It’s off the road though
@@liceface I respect that
Lol
Good video.
A good mate has a Broom Yellow 20v Turbo, mild map circa 275 bhp, owned it for 18 years now, lovely car. He changed the standard 16" wheels over to 18" several years ago, looked superb but it didn't do the ride/ handling any favours whatsoever. He recently seen sense and refurbed his stock wheels and refitted them. Total transformation. A lot of car for the money these at present if you find a good one.
My uncle had the 20v non-turbo. Green over tan. It was beautiful. We were coming back from the motor show in Birmingham in 98, and we were doing 70mph (🙄) in 3rd and it sounded so good. A handful of years later my manager bought a 20v turbo. When he first put his foot down with me in the car, I remember panicking and reaching out for something to grab out of shear fear! 😂😂 I wasn’t a huge fan of the turbo versions. Felt the NA ones were a lot more “sensible”.
Love the daring styling, some people want to disappear into the background, this not so much. Breath of fresh, bold air. Can't speak to the dynamics as we never got them in the States.
You can import a 1995 one under the 25 year rule I think
Nice to see the Crow Rd near Glasgow getting featured here. Amazing scenery and bends.
Good book as well...👍🏻
Sold mine 6 years ago and still regret it. Was sprayed Cadburys purple with giant exhaust, loved it.
James I worked at the Fiat dealers when these were new and they were certainly considered as something special then. Some magazines even rated it better than the GTV. The 20v engine was also put in the Bravo HGT which was rapid in a straight line and could eat front tyres if you were not careful.
Having owned both i would say magazines were wrong. The problem was the Fiat was better than expected and the Alfa was worse than hoped for but in reality the multilink on the rear of the GTV does make a vast difference. Once the Q2 diff is slotted into the GTV 3.0 it is game over. Despite the awful chassis the 5 pot is a truly great engine and theres a unique, quirky and fun character to the Coupe 20VT that always appeals
Daily Driver is a sprint blue 99 20vt (number 9 coupe ) and my track car is a Coupe 16VT I love both of them as they are both completely different
These remain one of my favourite cars and I'm keen to do my own feature on the channel. My thoughts are that these will rise in value .. I see them as under appreciated. If you can overlook some of the niggles they remain one of the best looking coupes ever made in my opinion. Especially in some of the more funky colours! They may be a little niche still but people are catching onto them at last. Great video as usual! I'm still after a collaboration by the way haha
Amazing cars, I’ve owned 3 of these in the past myself, one in broom yellow, one in speed red, one in ink black. The ‘Bugatti blue’ that you mentioned is called Sprint Blue and is very eye-catching. Not keen on this example as looks a bit boring in Steel Grey, I don’t like the de-badging on the front of this example as well. They look incredible in broom yellow or speed red and Vinci grey, beautiful head turning cars and sound amazing, stunning interior also. Go through a tunnel and floor it, wow!
I loved my yellow one from the late 90's. With its Pininfarina design, and the distinctive design touches I managed to convince myself I was driving a baby Ferrari! The brighter colours were best, because then you had the full impact on the interior. It also had the performance to match those looks, and one of the journos at the time said, "in a line of traffic, it wasn't a case of whether I could overtake, more a case of how many I was going to overtake"! It was the closest I ever thought I'd get to a Ferrari......until I bought my 550 a couple of years ago.
James I think the blue you were referring to is Sprint Blue. My brother had a 20v Turbo. Shame you didn’t drive a standard one. They are tyre-sensitive as well- proper grippy tyres (standard were Pirelli P Zeros) have the car a more trustworthy balance, that would banish understeer if on less grippy rubber. In standard turbo-guise, the engine was very torquey, with little to no turbo lag, and a great 5 cylinder sound. Loved my brother’s car. Wish he’d kept it
Best Fiat ever made!
130 coupe from the 70s
Had a 20V Turbo from new. Brilliant engine, acceptable handling, great interior, giant boot, seats need more support. Traded it in for a TVR Griffith 500.
Traded for a TVR. you are a glutton for punishment Hats off to you
@@stephenirving1737 Owned it for 3 years and 40k miles. It only let me down once, when the fusebox got water contaminated.
Utterly gorgeous, a mini Ferrari for very little money
😂😂😂😂 your name says it all
Should we be worried or have you got a very warped sense of humour 🤔
@@markwalton8644no. I think the front looks very much like a 90s Ferrari. The rear however isn’t for me at all.
I had 2 , a 20vt and a 20vt+. Glorious cars. Best colour was yellow 🤩. I notice the car in the vid has the aftermarket metal dial rings which really set it off.
Had one, mapped by Fc performance, all done up with dual friction fc motorsports clutch etc. Was an amazing car, and surprisingly very reliable, has never let me down.
Glad I found this channel. Getting tired of those young car youtubers that just make silly remarks as if it were 2002 Top Gear.
I'm more 1997 Top Gear
To answer your question Jay, it's a "YES"! One of the all time great designs, it looked like nothing that had come before it and nothing that has come after. It's bold in the way that the Alfa SZ was, but prettier - and even better, it was accessible to the everyday driver. Fast as hell, amazing soundtrack (the 20v at least), cool interior, decent rear seats, interesting handling - what's not to love?!
I'm yay on these, in the right colour though. Not massive on the Silver.
I still remember the excitement, being taken to the fiat dealership when my father was buying his new car. A 7 year old car obsessed lad, I sat in a green one for the entire time we were there. And when we drove home, it was in their ex demonstrator Fiat Punto, I was gutted.
10:26 - "those little skinny front tyres" .... 205 section if I remember rightly and that's not skinny on a FWD car..... drive a Ford Puma on 195 section tyres and see how you don't need wide tyres to generate good front end grip....... it's all about the chassis balance. I remember someone once saying in a car magazine about a car that it was "Over Tyred", meaning that as many modern cars these days are, the tyres offer more grip than the chassis can cope with.... look at an entry level Caterham, original lotus elise or low formula race cars - they make more use of the grip offered up by their narrower tyres...... same thing how you can ruin a cars handling by putting wider wheels and tyres on it.
Wasn't a fan of the looks of these until I googled a picture of a blue one. I'd definitely have one in that colour.
Thank you very much, Sir! This brings so many memories, mostly positive ones
They could sell these today and they would still look modern.
I had a properly tuned big turbo 20vt and it was the fastest car I’ve ever had once rolling and I’ve had GT Four’s, 996’s, E46 M3’s, and an Evo 6. 40-100 mph in a tuned one is very impressive.
When I bought my Plus I had the shocks and springs replaced all around with new stock monroe items. Since then the car has handled like its on rails... I have absolute confidence in it - often I throw it around just to try to get it to step out but it never does.
Just got my 2nd Coupe after selling the first one 10 years ago. Beautiful car, well definitely get a lot of attention.
I have been playing the dangerous game that is looking at cars on eBay the last few days, these fiats actually... now this pops up, it’s a sign, must buy a 20v coupe...
@Spanish John already done that one, nice car but broke a lot and did'nt have much character, newer Audi as a daily makes sense, as a classic or toy they just dont have that X factor for me
I have one of these off the road. It was a great car
I inherited yellow 5 cylinder coupe for a few months, waiting for my company car in 1998, it was brilliant fun and very fast for the time and probably quite quick today.
4:15 - that BLUE was before it's time in the mid 90's when you consider the ASTRA VXR / Focus RS in similar shades some 20 years on.
Janky do thanky, yes! Was so hoping this would pop up in a review. Never got these in the states and have always lusted after one, 4 spoke wheels are funky but very Fiat, harkening at least as far back as the X1/9. One of the cleanest and most iconic rear ends imho. Great review.
One of the best looking cars EVER! Sounds good too.
Are you kidding me? I asked for the Smart Forfour Brabus & The Fiat Coupe 20vt in one of my previous comments in one of your videos and it's almost as if you have directly responded to my wish! One after the other! Not sure if that is the case but feeling spoilt none the less! Major props to you James!
I agree with your Dad, defo a point and squeeze car- even more so when moded. I have very fond memories of both my 20VT's.
I had three. Turbo, LE and a Plus.
They are money pits, but on the plus side that five cylinder engine is a peach and the shape is amazing, like nothing else like it I think.
I remember driving the bosses one of those when it first came out I was in the rain, and the brakes being very scary as I came to my first roundabout, and I was use to an MR2 trying to kill me as my daily. Still was a very cool car!
My friend mom was going to bay a new car, there where several cars on the table, BMW etc.. It was important to us because we where still in scool and he could pretty much borow her car when ever. One day he told me that her mom bought a freaking fiat... We where so disapointed..... But then there it was, a Bugatti blue 20 valve turbo.. Man we had alot off fun that summer!
I had 2 of these back in the 90's. Regretted selling the first one after I bought my first house, having bought a cheaper Peugeot 306 GTI-6, which I hated! So much so, I bought another one 8 months later, at great financial loss of course!
Sprint blue was the only colour to have IMHO and was only available on the 20v Turbo model... flawed, but brilliant fun!
My sister had one of these in “Highland Green” made a noise like the original Audi Quattro, but you’re right about the handling. But is it a cool car - you Betcha 👍🏻
I had one, loved it!!
Had one and loved it. Future (or current) classic. There’s a really passionate owners club in UK too.
Nice video. I've had one of these for 20 years. Needed to trade it for a family car (530D BMW) when the kids got into their teens back in 2007. The garage offered me such a small amount for it, on a trade in, I kept it stored in the garage. Now the BMW is scrap and the Fiat is back on the road! These really are quite addictive cars in a retro 90’s way. Similar performance on paper to my Mini JCW but the Fiat feels way faster once rolling - 70 odd in second and 3rd will take you from 5mph to 100+ all with that 5 pot sound!
Excellent review. Pretty spot on. Love these cars to bits. Had one for 7 years. They are great fun and good value for money. Cheers, Jon.
I had a go in one that unfortunately was fitted with 17" alloys . It drove terrible. I'd like to try one on 15" s with decent rubber.
Its a Fiat Tipo !
I love the design, one of Chris Bangle’s better moments
Love it I would have one ahead of the Alfa gtv.
Adore how the Coupes look, awesome cars
I like it, but love the GTV.
My neighbour had one in yellow in the late 90s, even being five years old back then I still remember its distinctive shape.
Always liked the way these look!
A beautiful classic car! Just like your shirt.
Yes James, very cool cars! Personally I love the styling, and think if anything it's got better with age. Some of the members club cars are running really silly numbers as they're easy to tune.
When I was young these really didn’t register with me but today I love the looks!
What other car out there looks like this?
Real Bargin the 2001 Toyota MRS
Mitsubishi FTO is a lot alike.
I love its styling, it looks spectacular
Chris Bangle classic design, yet his best gift was BMW e85 / 86. Nice Fiat coupe 💥
These are really cool. I totally agree James I loved that shade of blue they came in. Haven't seen one of these on the roads now for a good number of years, think they still look great even now.
Fantastic car back in the day.