As stated before these were ex conrail slugs there were two versions a four axle used for pull down service and six axle versions used for hump service the slugs were built from former penn central alco units the trucks for the four axle version used EMD Blomberg GP9 trucks the six used EMD SD60 trucks they were built at the Pennsylvania junieta shops
0:04 nice catch of that CSX slug on a mainline train (not to mention the aLCO-style ends)! I've seen very similar ones used by BNSF, and they hardly ever leave the yard! 1:21 those types of hoppers that don't have the edge going over the end of the frame can be rare! 2:18 they need to fix that horn! 4:32 nice catch of that narrow nose Dash 8! 17:00 these cars also look rather rare!
NS No.8416 has the most musical horn I've heard, but sadly the NS C40-8Ws are no longer in service and its ashamed that I can never see them in California since they're all scrapped.
Very cool video... I know where all the locations are becasue I live within 5 miles of them. That 2nd location you used in the dog park parking lot I always thought would work well for westbound trains. It's not too bad on eastbound too. I had to report that crossing earlier this year to CSX because some of the lights burned out. (I'm surprised they didn't notice it their security camera they have at the crossing.)
Cool! I've never attempted to shoot westbounds at the dog park. I pretty much shoot everything at the Deekers parking lot or directly across the tracks from there
Cool video! I think Mentor is in northern Ohio. I'm going to Beleview and Fostoria on Saturday with a friend of mine from Florida. Northern Ohio has a lot of trains and a lot of fast freights since it is flat up there.
Thanks! Love your videos by the way! Yes, those are very active locations. Berea is also a great place to watch trains, as you can easily see 30+ trains when railfanning there. You can park at an auto shop on the opposite side of the bridge on the right side and walk right up next to the NS mainlines.
Now that CSX is 'dehumping' their yards, what are they doing with their hump slugs? Scrapping them? Converting them to yard slugs? Sorry if that sounds like a silly question. Thanks.
that looks like an old conrail MT6 slug, so my guess if it's going east, it's either going to Buffalo, Niagara Falls or Selkirk. if west Chicago, south well that opens up quite a few new possibilities.
I have not. I believe only CN and other foreign railroads do this but CSX and NS do not. I have seen some DPU's on ns coal trains and oil trains in the past though.
there is really no need for DPU units on the water level route running from Chicago to Buffalo to NYC, it's mostly flat, and the few short grades that are in the route are easier to overcome by just adding a third unit or a 4th unit than adding a DPU. I actually don't think NS utilizes DPU units anywhere, I know on horseshoe curve it's all manned helpers as is the Pochahontas division.
Does the yard slug supply extra electric power and push for the locomotives? As much as I can see, you caught some nice shots since those trains were booking.
In railroading, a slug is a version of a diesel-electric locomotive which lacks a prime mover, and often a cab. It derives the electrical power needed to operate its traction motors and motor controls from a fully-powered mother locomotive
@@E-man5375 Thank you for your valuable information. It is not very well that slugs are not as strong as are the lead locomotives. I have hoped that the slugs had their power for their own motors and electronic trainline contact from the lead locomotives. Also, I hope that the slug cars are nearly as heavy as the locomotives, but heavier than the freight cars. Thank you for tapping or typing to me.
Wow that's cool! That bridge allows for some really nice eastbound train photos. If you look at my most recent video, you can see that some of the photos were taken from right beyond the western pillar of the bridge.
I hate seeing slugs with no cab, often just what remains of a past locomotive, gutted of it's life and turned into a small booster. Slugs with cabs are slightly better as at least they retain their shape. In this case 1017 was a PRR RSD-15, number 8614. The stories it could have told.
Looks like my old line the Chicago line just east of Cleveland collinwood yard I’m now retired Ld moore engineer out of buffalo lines west Great Lakes division
They just provide extra tractive effort. They are just a set of traction motors and a whole bunch of weight. A lot of railroads will take a locomotive that has been in a wreck and remove the prime mover, generator and the entire cab to turn it into a slug.
This was a ex conrail slug made from former penn central alco units they used traction motors and trucks from old SD 40 units made the frames and used three boxes inside filling them with old worn cast iron locomotive brake shoes for wieght
I have read that they are used for grip when shunting cars in the yards when building trains. I believe it along with 2034 and 2444 were going to either the yard in Buffalo NY or the yard in Selkirk NY
See them all the time here in buffalo NY. I always see them on intermodal trains and auto racks. It's nothing more then a engine. It's like using 2 SD-40-2 but this engine has no cab. So it frees up 2 engines
Sorry about the missing location. Almost all of my videos are recorded in northeast ohio (mainly mentor). These railroads are the CSX Erie West Subdivision and the NS Lake Erie District
A slug provides extra tractive effort or pulling power. It is basically a locomotive with out the diesel prime mover and generator. A slug gets it's electrical power from a host locomotive and are mostly used in yard service.
I am a retired locomotive engineer. Slugs like the real ones in nature are be design slow speed locomotive's without power plants as below 12 mph a locomotive has a surplus of power and can't use full throttle as it would spin the wheels from excessive electrical power ( 600 volts DC ) for the traction motors. Take what Conrail did to high maintenance locomotive's used in yard service ALCO 6 axle locomotive's from 1800 to 2400 horsepower locomotive's. Remove the engine, generator and leave the traction motor blowers for traction motor cooling. In time as yard switchers don't earn money for the railroad, they consume money. The old Alcos with the cut down hood for visibility eventually traded their trucks from ALCO Triaxle trucks to old recycled EMD three axle trucks from old SD-9's all the way up to retired SD-35's as the maintenance cost for the EMD three axle trucks are considerably cheaper than the ALCO Triaxle trucks cost 2 to 3 times more to maintain. Now a slug can be a 4 or 6 axle slug locomotive which doubles the tractive effort of a single locomotive in yard service. Slugs pair up with a mother locomotive and are semi-permanently coupled up. Some slugs even continue to use the original fuel tank as an auxiliary to the mother locomotive pumping fuel to the mother as needed. The fuel transfer technology has been around for years and is reliable using either quick disconnects or hoses screwed into pipe fittings on the mother locomotive. Slugs rarely get uncoupled from their mothers but if needed can get uncoupled in a few minutes. A diesel locomotive is expensive to own and operate so using a slug set locomotive when a railroad has a regular need for high tractive effort such as in hump service or flat switching long heavy freight trains. Conrail use to use 2 GE U23-C locomotive's as hump power. Until they decided to save fuel by using slugs. One 3000 horsepower engine instead of 2 engines uses less fuel because of turbocharging which makes the engine more efficient with the same horsepower output. By the way, GE built the slug straight from the factory at Erie, Pennsylvania. They called them MATE's. ( more available tractive effort ) is what MATE stood for. They even offered fuel transfer ability if the customer requested it. The mate was and could be built for yard service or road service with or without a cab. Some small locomotive manufacturers built them for some railroads but EMD while they did build cables booster locomotive's to my knowledge never built a slug. Though many railroads did out of older EMD locomotive's. Hope this helps.
I have considered it but I am so far behind on uploading videos that I do not want to take the time to separate them. I have at least 30 more videos to upload from a couple months back.
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Ive seen some yard slugs on the mainline and every time its exciting. great catch!
As stated before these were ex conrail slugs there were two versions a four axle used for pull down service and six axle versions used for hump service the slugs were built from former penn central alco units the trucks for the four axle version used EMD Blomberg GP9 trucks the six used EMD SD60 trucks they were built at the Pennsylvania junieta shops
0:04 nice catch of that CSX slug on a mainline train (not to mention the aLCO-style ends)! I've seen very similar ones used by BNSF, and they hardly ever leave the yard!
1:21 those types of hoppers that don't have the edge going over the end of the frame can be rare!
2:18 they need to fix that horn!
4:32 nice catch of that narrow nose Dash 8!
17:00 these cars also look rather rare!
Thanks for the comments! Those cars at the end are trash cars that can be seen on CSX trash trains Q710 and Q711.
NS No.8416 has the most musical horn I've heard, but sadly the NS C40-8Ws are no longer in service and its ashamed that I can never see them in California since they're all scrapped.
That seems to be one crazy busy place for rail fanning !
Amazing video! I like how you view the whole train. Not just the part that is rare. It makes me feel like I was actually there! Keep it up!
Awesome video, good looking trains, bad looking storm.
Very cool video... I know where all the locations are becasue I live within 5 miles of them.
That 2nd location you used in the dog park parking lot I always thought would work well for westbound trains. It's not too bad on eastbound too. I had to report that crossing earlier this year to CSX because some of the lights burned out. (I'm surprised they didn't notice it their security camera they have at the crossing.)
Cool! I've never attempted to shoot westbounds at the dog park. I pretty much shoot everything at the Deekers parking lot or directly across the tracks from there
that looks like a severethunderstorm ace railfan.great video.
The last train caught my eye by surprise. A Canadian Pacific. They run through Wisconsin too.
Yeah. That train is run daily through northeast ohio
I have also seen CP in Illinois and Iowa as well as Wisconsin.
Thank you for your help 😊😊☺️🙂☺️
Cool video! I think Mentor is in northern Ohio. I'm going to Beleview and Fostoria on Saturday with a friend of mine from Florida. Northern Ohio has a lot of trains and a lot of fast freights since it is flat up there.
Thanks! Love your videos by the way! Yes, those are very active locations. Berea is also a great place to watch trains, as you can easily see 30+ trains when railfanning there. You can park at an auto shop on the opposite side of the bridge on the right side and walk right up next to the NS mainlines.
Awesome I got that slug a month ago
Thanks! I wonder where it was going that time.
Now that CSX is 'dehumping' their yards, what are they doing with their hump slugs? Scrapping them? Converting them to yard slugs? Sorry if that sounds like a silly question. Thanks.
Not sure, good question though. Im sure if they think they can use them somewhere or rebuild they will
+Wide World of Trains Wow! thanks for the quick reply!!
that looks like an old conrail MT6 slug, so my guess if it's going east, it's either going to Buffalo, Niagara Falls or Selkirk. if west Chicago, south well that opens up quite a few new possibilities.
Big like for your work from Romania
Chasing and filming trains is fun in any kind of weather!
Have you seen any frieght trains with locomotive units distributed between some of the freight cars?
I have not. I believe only CN and other foreign railroads do this but CSX and NS do not. I have seen some DPU's on ns coal trains and oil trains in the past though.
ACe Railfan Csx runs DPU in north Florida
CSX runs DPU in the Corbin Division line. I've seen DPUs on some of NS autorack trains in Louisville.
UP runs them here in Utah.
there is really no need for DPU units on the water level route running from Chicago to Buffalo to NYC, it's mostly flat, and the few short grades that are in the route are easier to overcome by just adding a third unit or a 4th unit than adding a DPU. I actually don't think NS utilizes DPU units anywhere, I know on horseshoe curve it's all manned helpers as is the Pochahontas division.
Excellent video
I saw a CSX slug at Avon yard, IN. They use it for the big hill
Nice catch with the Slug.
Does the yard slug supply extra electric power and push for the locomotives? As much as I can see, you caught some nice shots since those trains were booking.
In railroading, a slug is a version of a diesel-electric locomotive which lacks a prime mover, and often a cab. It derives the electrical power needed to operate its traction motors and motor controls from a fully-powered mother locomotive
@@E-man5375 Thank you for your valuable information. It is not very well that slugs are not as strong as are the lead locomotives. I have hoped that the slugs had their power for their own motors and electronic trainline contact from the lead locomotives. Also, I hope that the slug cars are nearly as heavy as the locomotives, but heavier than the freight cars. Thank you for tapping or typing to me.
Interesting catches! Thanks for sharing! ~Pedro
My grandfather lives 1.5 miles from these rail lines and one fact u didn’t know was that he built that bridge years back
Wow that's cool! That bridge allows for some really nice eastbound train photos. If you look at my most recent video, you can see that some of the photos were taken from right beyond the western pillar of the bridge.
What is that kind of train for?
What are slugs used for
great footage what kind of camera and tripod are you using?
Thanks! My camera is a Sony HDR-CX405 and I do not use a tripod.
is this all u do what a life. lol
Great catch!
Ditch lights do not alternate at 2:18. Train ditch lights normally alternate, correct?
From my experience of railfanning, only CSX and NS locomotives have automatic ditchlights when the horn is activated here in Ohio.
Oh. Maybe one day you will catch one of these trains using the marslight or gyralight. That would be cool to watch.
Awesome!
Amen love the video is that the best of the Norfork Southern engines
Amen
Thanks! I appreciate it! :)
I hate seeing slugs with no cab, often just what remains of a past locomotive, gutted of it's life and turned into a small booster. Slugs with cabs are slightly better as at least they retain their shape. In this case 1017 was a PRR RSD-15, number 8614. The stories it could have told.
A very enjoyable video. I personally prefer longer videos.
citirail hauling ass
there's actually A slug used on the M&B but you rarely see it anymore
There was a slug on Big Trains cam a few weeks ago! I saw it live
shelby3024 omg shelby! remember me from the live stream of big trains? i aldo go by trains4lyfe
Connor That's strange, i dont remember
shelby3024 oh
Looks like my old line the Chicago line just east of Cleveland collinwood yard I’m now retired Ld moore engineer out of buffalo lines west Great Lakes division
the slug isn't rare it just doesn't usually runs out of the yard or is inone of the building the have.
Based on the looks of the ends it kind of looks like a rebuilt RSD of some denomination.
What exactly are those for? I always thought they gave more power to the rest of the train but never did find out.
They are mainly used for moving cars around in yards I believe
They just provide extra tractive effort. They are just a set of traction motors and a whole bunch of weight. A lot of railroads will take a locomotive that has been in a wreck and remove the prime mover, generator and the entire cab to turn it into a slug.
This was a ex conrail slug made from former penn central alco units they used traction motors and trucks from old SD 40 units made the frames and used three boxes inside filling them with old worn cast iron locomotive brake shoes for wieght
What does that flat engine do? I think it is a power engine and it gives power to other engines.
I have read that they are used for grip when shunting cars in the yards when building trains. I believe it along with 2034 and 2444 were going to either the yard in Buffalo NY or the yard in Selkirk NY
See them all the time here in buffalo NY. I always see them on intermodal trains and auto racks. It's nothing more then a engine. It's like using 2 SD-40-2 but this engine has no cab. So it frees up 2 engines
It's for traction.
What’s is a slug tho
That used to be a ex conrail slug that came with the merger of csx and conrail
What is that?
Love the citirail
What street was the first train at?
It's the deekers sidetracks parking lot off of Hart Street
Erie West Sub Productions in Erie?
In Mentor Ohio
All my videos including CSX SD70ACe & NS OLS 9254 are up.
WOW THAT WAS ONE FAST SLUG XD puns
Would you please give me a clue about where this video was made?
Sorry about the missing location. Almost all of my videos are recorded in northeast ohio (mainly mentor). These railroads are the CSX Erie West Subdivision and the NS Lake Erie District
Thanks, I suspected it was somewhere in Ohio.
What are the purpose of slugs exactly?
Slugs are non-powered motive power. They get their power from an adjacent locomotive, and help with additional traction.
Ah, I see
Nice video, subscribed
Thanks!
what is the slug for??
A slug provides extra tractive effort or pulling power. It is basically a locomotive with out the diesel prime mover and generator. A slug gets it's electrical power from a host locomotive and are mostly used in yard service.
Nice video!
ACe Railfan, what is the purpose of a slug. Enjoyed the video.
I'm not sure, but I do know they are usually kept in yards and might be used there to shunt around cars. Glad you enjoyed it!
+ACe Railfan Slugs are primarily used to provide traction for trains moving at slow speeds like in railroad yards.
I am a retired locomotive engineer. Slugs like the real ones in nature are be design slow speed locomotive's without power plants as below 12 mph a locomotive has a surplus of power and can't use full throttle as it would spin the wheels from excessive electrical power ( 600 volts DC ) for the traction motors.
Take what Conrail did to high maintenance locomotive's used in yard service ALCO 6 axle locomotive's from 1800 to 2400 horsepower locomotive's. Remove the engine, generator and leave the traction motor blowers for traction motor cooling. In time as yard switchers don't earn money for the railroad, they consume money. The old Alcos with the cut down hood for visibility eventually traded their trucks from ALCO Triaxle trucks to old recycled EMD three axle trucks from old SD-9's all the way up to retired SD-35's as the maintenance cost for the EMD three axle trucks are considerably cheaper than the ALCO Triaxle trucks cost 2 to 3 times more to maintain.
Now a slug can be a 4 or 6 axle slug locomotive which doubles the tractive effort of a single locomotive in yard service. Slugs pair up with a mother locomotive and are semi-permanently coupled up. Some slugs even continue to use the original fuel tank as an auxiliary to the mother locomotive pumping fuel to the mother as needed. The fuel transfer technology has been around for years and is reliable using either quick disconnects or hoses screwed into pipe fittings on the mother locomotive. Slugs rarely get uncoupled from their mothers but if needed can get uncoupled in a few minutes.
A diesel locomotive is expensive to own and operate so using a slug set locomotive when a railroad has a regular need for high tractive effort such as in hump service or flat switching long heavy freight trains. Conrail use to use 2 GE U23-C locomotive's as hump power. Until they decided to save fuel by using slugs. One 3000 horsepower engine instead of 2 engines uses less fuel because of turbocharging which makes the engine more efficient with the same horsepower output.
By the way, GE built the slug straight from the factory at Erie, Pennsylvania.
They called them MATE's. ( more available tractive effort ) is what MATE stood for. They even offered fuel transfer ability if the customer requested it. The mate was and could be built for yard service or road service with or without a cab. Some small locomotive manufacturers built them for some railroads but EMD while they did build cables booster locomotive's to my knowledge never built a slug.
Though many railroads did out of older EMD locomotive's.
Hope this helps.
looks like 60 mph I love fast train's r u a model railroader to
Sweet!
Those clouds do not look friendly
They weren't. There was a huge thunderstorm
What is a slug
DetailedBNSF ui Ok, Thanks
awesome
looks like there was an actual tornado at 10:00
That’s called a slug unit 3
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Hello I subscribed to you
Cool! When was this?
This was before November of last year when it was still somewhat warm outside. Not sure exactly when
+ACe Railfan Oh. Cool! Wish I would have caught it!
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Snail-like slug engine😎 0:06
cool!
I live in concord, I know exactly where this was :P
How about you cut this video into 2 14 minute segments ? I do want to watch this but not all @ 1 time.
I have considered it but I am so far behind on uploading videos that I do not want to take the time to separate them. I have at least 30 more videos to upload from a couple months back.
WOW I THOUGHT THE THUMBNAIL WAS FAKE
I am from Brazil
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You were 1 AC44CW away from CSX 666
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