They're amateur cheapskates that are going to wreck this engine and others. They shouldn't even be in business to begin with. ELS should change its initials to EBS.
The Cumberland mine railroad is a fine example of what happens when you start spending money on maintenance. This railroad can take a page out of that and do likewise
@@clarklindquist8137 The railroad operator in this video doesn't want to spend money, it only wants to make money. Sooner or later this joke for a Class 3 railway company is going to tank.
Hello Jason, I'm in Iron Mountain all week. I'm from Rochester Hills Michigan. I hope to meet you. I enjoy your videos and your parrots. Congratulations on your 10000.
Having spent years and countless trips over and back on Cajon Pass with every type of train you can imagine, if you know the train is stalling out like that- make the initial trainline set before you stall. Rolling back downgrade multiple car lengths is rookie all day. Anticipate the stall, make the 10 # set a couple cars before it happens, keep throttle up until set propogates through to the rear and then make a deeper set as you slow to a stall and apply full independent brake as speed drops to zero. Rolling back like that on the CTC mainline could get you backing through a absolute signal or control point and a whole lotta eyes looking down on your train handling skills. The turbo on that ex BNSF SD40-2 sounds fine. Yes the track is shitty
@@beerancher3225 That's to be expected with numbers of Class 3 railroads. Nothing new there. They take down the block signals that were on the lines by the previous Class 2 or Class 1 rail companies and replace them with hum drum track warrants. Then they don't do too much if hardly anything at all with regards to track maintenance. And finally they don't treat their equipment properly and effectively either. Most annoyingly they have patch-jobs for locomotives and rolling stock, a real eye sore.
That's a 3 or 4 engine train for an Alco. WET, Wheel slip. That's all it is. I've seen the dop the cars and go up the tracks with the engine and sand everything. They may have no sand either.
Moisture on the rails, wheel slippage, mite be out of sand and MOW crew needs to cut grass between rails, if the wheels slip badly they leave blue streaks on the rails and make a high pitch whistle or squeal. there hows that?
Definitely something is wrong with the locomotive and still notched up!!! Sad to see them with so few locomotives and struggling with another locomotive! Seems like they are shutting the Locomotive off and leaving town! Thanks for the coverage! Safe travels to Iowa🙏🤲
When they were trying to push the loads yesterday that would be the same direction the engine would be running as it is now. Looks like the problem is more than the sand. Maybe traction motor(s).
If the unit is slipping, no point in getting more throttle. That may damage wheels as well as rail. If it will hold the rail at 2 or 3 mph, stay there until your situation improves ( grade ?? ).
ELS seems to have a bad habit of running their locomotives into the ground. If ELS is so short of motive power, maybe they should take a page out of the Lake State Railway's playbook down on the Alpena branch in lower Michigan, where the LSRC use road slugs with traction motors that draw power from a locomotive's prime mover to provide additional tractive effort to haul heavy trains loaded with aggregate, gypsum or cement products. ELS has plenty of mothballed locomotives stored at their Wells facility that might be suitable for conversion to road slugs-- might as well make do with what they have on hand if they don't want to spend more to lease more locomotives.
Definitely something is wrong with 503, maybe a traction motor is bad or something else electrical with it. Obviously the diesel is running okay. Could it be that the generator is going bad?
OH, WOW! Seems like a huge electrical issue, alternator/generator/traction motors, maybe even a turbo issue. And no power up north to bail them out🤔❔ What a sorry state of a railroad 🤔☹😤😢😭😵😨😱❗
Engine and turbo look and sound fine. Dragging brakes? Lack of sand with all that vegetation lying around? Money needs to be spent rather than leaving the Yorkshireman in charge of spending....
The plow blade on the rear of the loco shakes the water droplets off the weeds n grass right onto the top of the rail and the leading trucks are slipping. Probably ran out of traction sand thursday already.
On the good side, the unit sounds great. Except in high notch, you can notice the wheel slip surging the rpm. My guess is humid damp conditions, wet, slimy jointed rail will stall a small heavy train quickly.
No money for anything at ELS. What will L.P. do if the Smart siding train gets stopped by an underperforming railroad company. Somebody with super deep pockets needs to step in and just take over. Great video of a failing company. Maybe even Wisconsin and Michigan can fund it.
50% of this locos power is spend stumbling over the "roadholes" in the rail ... . Look like the whole train is swaying and bumping around ... all that energy is lost. The state of most rails in the states is laughable...
Old ex BNSF SD40-2 getting wheel slip on wet rail over light grade with grass on the rail makes for a fun day. Bet the sanders aren't working. That engine wasn't made for short line operation but for hauling coal trains and intermodal trains on welded rail at speed. I would be hard pressed to put a 6 axle loco on that stretch of track. Nothing good can come from that! Just another day on a short line/regional railroad.
Sounds to me the locomotive isn't loading properly more trouble some to diagnose than not loading at all..meaning its sending power to the traction motors but not as it should
My thoughts are this: Wet weather (well drizzle/mist actually) along with a slightly overgrown/weedy track, allows for wet grass and other leaves as well as a few tree leaves to fall onto the top of the railhead, where the first train (in a while) arrives to attempt to get traction uphill, to discover, that not matter HOW HIGH they pull that throttle lever (wide-open), their traction motors are revving way too high with almost NO forwards motion, almost 99.9% gaurantee that the railhead NOW has this nasty green slime (from "crushed-vegitation" oils) which has made the track sliprier than if it was coated in old fashioned axle grease. It was a problem sometimes (during the first wet after a long dry period) up the Comwell Gorge, especially for any motor trollies hauling heavy work fla-top's loaded with rails or sleepers etc., where we could absolutely NOT get any decent forwards traction on crushed leaves (in the autumn mostly) as they released this nasty extremely greasy oill, when a trolley wheel ran over them, which also slowed o a crawl, most of the DJ locomotives they used up that way. I've seen (in the 1970's) a DJ locomotive that had to be run "light" (decoupled from it's train) several times each way, until they had laid down enough sand, to remove most of the oil off the track, before they went back and recoupled to their train for a final "rush" to get up a steeper section of the old Cromwel Gorge .. Thus, with all that vegitation (including those rapidly growing bushes that blocked your view) combined with a fine drizzle/light rain, may have greased the track sufficiently, to stop that single loco from gaining enough traction, and why when it stopped reving at 13:16, the weight of the wagons pulling it downhill, meant that as soon as they throttled down, it basically "ran away" backwards thus the crew could barely keep it under control in reverse. Obviously pissed that the engine couldn't get enough traction, hence a "second" or third repeat run at the hill was required. I'm assuming they din't use their sanding equipment for some weird reason, or maybe the crew didn't understand that a squirt of SAND would have given them all the traction they needed. After all, to the crew, there was NO SNOW or ICE (frosty weather/cold rails) and it wasn't raining THAT hard surely? But see that's the problem with JUST a light drizzle, it is nowhere near enough, to WASH AWAY the crushed vegitation oils, from off the top of the track. And, without a heavy downpour, or a sunny day, that oil remained tracing around on the weheels, to keep that loco unable to get any traction worth a dime.. If they had "parked" their small "rake" of wagons, and ripped back and forth through there a few times, sanding all the time, there wouldn't have been a problem when reconnecting the loco.
If you didn't see the locomotive in the cemetery you'd probably swear it was a landscape crew working on Mowing and weed trimming. Then it almost starts to sound like a Mixmaster. Independent Locomotive Services should have a few more SD40s in stock but it would probably take a week to get there from Minnesota it was just the way @12:30 how's the speed just suddenly disappears. EI. EI. Oh forget it
It's probably because of company policy/insurance reasons. Jump in some member of the public's car and then get into an accident the first question is going to be "why were you in some dudes car?". Sad world, but you can thank the ambulance chasers for that.
Wet rail is bad, but if there's not much traffic the rails might have some rust which makes an excellent polishing compound to make the rails even more slick. At 12:00 What is the gradient on that stretch of track? It is very relevant to the crew on such a lousy evening I take it that the crew outlawed at 6pm Friday so they had to leave the train there
They might be out of sand. Engine seems to do okay on the level and downhill, but wheels might be slipping when they are going uphill. Short heavy train doesn't helping either.
Well, the local looks like a SD 40-2 which is a strong runner, but to me it’s raining tracks. Wet guy might be low on sand and all that weight cleared at the end. Think somebody miscalculated distribution of the weight he’s doing a whole lot of slipping
Definitely out of sand with all the wet grass and wet rails. Maybe do some tie replacements to get the speed up could help some as well.18 loaded cars roughly 2,340 tons for that SD should be no issue unless out of sand. Even though class 1’s can have the same problem on the main lines.
(4:28) "Have you no respect for the dead, my son!?" HAW-HAW! (That was a good one, wasn't it?) Well.......... all I can say is, I hope they bury me by the tracks......... Thanks for the video.
Hi Jason poor 503 I noticed the blue boxcars from the view in the cemetery, any idea what the are doing their, noticed it looked like a door was either open or off. Thanks
@@williamralph5442 if a traction motor goes out on a EMD locomotive say on this SD40 all three axles in the truck go down. So the locomotive only has half the tractive effort..On a GE Locomotive one traction motor goes out the other two in the three axle truck still work so you still have almost all the tractive effort
@@robertoja9680Not true, only two are cut out when a fault occurs …1 is connected to 4 -2 is connected to 5- 3 is connected to 6 … so what you witnessed here was a loss of adhesion due to the rear sandbox being depleted of sand… clearly a maintenance issue …. ms~~~
Yeah you could have it rite their that would explain why they couldn't get to Iron Mountain, I think I remember Jason saying something about 503 having traction motor troubles down by green bay, But I may be mistaken.
@@haroldreardon1407 I was mistaken on the quantity of traction motors, I looked it up and you are correct they have 6 so how many do you think it would take to disable that engine?
@@haroldreardon1407 And they have a higher gearing than the dash2s in that their top speed is 83 mph, and the sd40-2 is 60mph, I would think that the dash2 has the advantage, they both weigh 360,000 pounds and both have 6 traction motors
Get rid of the grass and there wont be any problems. EL&S is cheap not to spray there right-away, you either pay for spray or pay for fuel!!!
It's not the grass. That's not going to slow you down. That blown turbo definitely will tho. That loud vacuum cleaner hum is the bearings smoked out
yeah because the grass is not hard its soft but its the level of train tracks that are bumpy
They're amateur cheapskates that are going to wreck this engine and others. They shouldn't even be in business to begin with. ELS should change its initials to EBS.
The Cumberland mine railroad is a fine example of what happens when you start spending money on maintenance. This railroad can take a page out of that and do likewise
I LOVE DAVES VIDEOS ALSO GREAT VIDS TO LEARN MAINTENANCE AND RRING
@@johnrencheck2283 Yes, we can only concur.
@@clarklindquist8137 The railroad operator in this video doesn't want to spend money, it only wants to make money. Sooner or later this joke for a Class 3 railway company is going to tank.
Lovely old cemetery. nicely maintained. love the trains along side too
Love to count cars and see multiple variations of cargo😊
Hello Jason, I'm in Iron Mountain all week. I'm from Rochester Hills Michigan. I hope to meet you. I enjoy your videos and your parrots. Congratulations on your 10000.
Very cool! I'll be back Tuesday.. ha ha
Thanks for taking a puddle splash for us Jason. 👍🏻
Happy Sunday Jason
God bless
Well, your long journey to 100k is finally complete and you get your silver play button!
I'm all set with a bucket of popcorn.This is going to be interesting.
That locomotive IS LEANING!
That was awesome 😊🎉
Having spent years and countless trips over and back on Cajon Pass with every type of train you can imagine, if you know the train is stalling out like that- make the initial trainline set before you stall. Rolling back downgrade multiple car lengths is rookie all day. Anticipate the stall, make the 10 # set a couple cars before it happens, keep throttle up until set propogates through to the rear and then make a deeper set as you slow to a stall and apply full independent brake as speed drops to zero. Rolling back like that on the CTC mainline could get you backing through a absolute signal or control point and a whole lotta eyes looking down on your train handling skills. The turbo on that ex BNSF SD40-2 sounds fine. Yes the track is shitty
Gosh I love hearing those turbos ❤
Wet rail, rail with grass on it, tree sap, and or no sand (improperly serviced).
Seems like they have the same 'maintenance' program for their engines as they do their tracks; 'If it's not broke don't fix it!'
Hi Jason, I enjoy your videos. I notice an LP SmartSide ad at the beginning of this one 😂😂. People are watching!!
That seems to be a very nice cemetery, it looks like everyone’s dieing to get in there. Congrats on the 100000 subs Jason.
It's dying! 😂👍
The owner of that track doesn't spend any time or money on maintenance .
@@beerancher3225 That's to be expected with numbers of Class 3 railroads. Nothing new there. They take down the block signals that were on the lines by the previous Class 2 or Class 1 rail companies and replace them with hum drum track warrants. Then they don't do too much if hardly anything at all with regards to track maintenance. And finally they don't treat their equipment properly and effectively either. Most annoyingly they have patch-jobs for locomotives and rolling stock, a real eye sore.
That's a 3 or 4 engine train for an Alco. WET, Wheel slip. That's all it is. I've seen the dop the cars and go up the tracks with the engine and sand everything. They may have no sand either.
Or the sanders are clogged. Had that happen more than once.
Idk what everyone is on about saying the engine doesn’t sound good. It sounds amazing
I think he backed up to sand the rails. We did that a lot on the ACR.
Moisture on the rails, wheel slippage, mite be out of sand and MOW crew needs to cut grass between rails, if the wheels slip badly they leave blue streaks on the rails and make a high pitch whistle or squeal. there hows that?
Yeah seems like someone forgot to fill the sander
No sand and wet vegetation means a lot of slipping.
Definitely something is wrong with the locomotive and still notched up!!! Sad to see them with so few locomotives and struggling with another locomotive! Seems like they are shutting the Locomotive off and leaving town! Thanks for the coverage!
Safe travels to Iowa🙏🤲
When they were trying to push the loads yesterday that would be the same direction the engine would be running as it is now. Looks like the problem is more than the sand. Maybe traction motor(s).
Wet rails make a big diff.
We see this on Tehachapi, that's an RBD train ie "runs better downhill".
I love the "disney" car as you call it. Someone obviously has too much time on their hands.
If the unit is slipping, no point in getting more throttle. That may damage wheels as well as rail. If it will hold the rail at 2 or 3 mph, stay there until your situation improves ( grade ?? ).
Sunday at 3:40pm in Southern Ontario. J Good catch. Greg. 😊.
They'll spend hours trying to drag too much train instead of dragging it in two parts.
What is the grade there?
ELS seems to have a bad habit of running their locomotives into the ground. If ELS is so short of motive power, maybe they should take a page out of the Lake State Railway's playbook down on the Alpena branch in lower Michigan, where the LSRC use road slugs with traction motors that draw power from a locomotive's prime mover to provide additional tractive effort to haul heavy trains loaded with aggregate, gypsum or cement products. ELS has plenty of mothballed locomotives stored at their Wells facility that might be suitable for conversion to road slugs-- might as well make do with what they have on hand if they don't want to spend more to lease more locomotives.
Bad track, rainy day, overload for one 3,000HP older diesel electric loco. ELS modus operandi, eh?
Wet rails and 1 engine doesn't cut it on a grade. He probably went back n forth sanding the rails before he got traction.
Definitely something is wrong with 503, maybe a traction motor is bad or something else electrical with it. Obviously the diesel is running okay. Could it be that the generator is going bad?
Grab a shot of that gondola !!
That was cool!!
it looks like they are out of sand on a slick track
Sounds like my vacuum cleaner😮 its not peaceful for the residents of the graveyard!
Like I said they need to purchase a bigger locomotive like an SD 70 Mack
That railroad is in such a bad shape... Thanks for sharing !
OH, WOW! Seems like a huge electrical issue, alternator/generator/traction motors, maybe even a turbo issue. And no power up north to bail them out🤔❔ What a sorry state of a railroad 🤔☹😤😢😭😵😨😱❗
Maybe slick rail combined with vegetation on the rails?
Engine and turbo look and sound fine. Dragging brakes? Lack of sand with all that vegetation lying around? Money needs to be spent rather than leaving the Yorkshireman in charge of spending....
The owners of this railroad have been neglecting the track and equipment for years. Every time I go up there, it looks worse and worse.
The conductor should be at the back, protecting the shove move. Might be a sticking brake, too.
The tracks look like half chewed spaghetti. Beautiful locomotive and Xmas gondola.
good train video
The plow blade on the rear of the loco shakes the water droplets off the weeds n grass right onto the top of the rail and the leading trucks are slipping. Probably ran out of traction sand thursday already.
On the good side, the unit sounds great. Except in high notch, you can notice the wheel slip surging the rpm. My guess is humid damp conditions, wet, slimy jointed rail will stall a small heavy train quickly.
Engine sounds like a vacuum cleaner.
I also will be in Iron Mountain next Tuesday for a couple weeks.
Wet rails, high wet grass, no sand?
Wow that rail is all whoopity whoopity
That rail is in good shape!
No money for anything at ELS. What will L.P. do if the Smart siding train gets stopped by an underperforming railroad company. Somebody with super deep pockets needs to step in and just take over. Great video of a failing company. Maybe even Wisconsin and Michigan can fund it.
There sure is something wrong with the engine. Sounds like a bad turbo.
No money for sand. That SD40-2 Shouldn't have a problem pulling that train.
Could be traction motors cut out due to ground relays. Happens lots in wet or snowy weather..,
It has dropped its load. He's in number 6 still struggling .
It time for repair great video thanks Jason
I love watching train videos makes me wish i was back on my switch engine the 1127
Nice video, by chance, have you ever caught the High Hood unit ELS has? I saw it tied down in Escanaba last year.
50% of this locos power is spend stumbling over the "roadholes" in the rail ... . Look like the whole train is swaying and bumping around ... all that energy is lost. The state of most rails in the states is laughable...
It would be nice to hear the RR radio to see what the plan was. That loco should have made it easily. There is more to this than a stall.
For some reason the traction motors weren’t getting the juice to run them
Definitely something wrong with the train not being able to climb iron mountain
Old ex BNSF SD40-2 getting wheel slip on wet rail over light grade with grass on the rail makes for a fun day. Bet the sanders aren't working. That engine wasn't made for short line operation but for hauling coal trains and intermodal trains on welded rail at speed. I would be hard pressed to put a 6 axle loco on that stretch of track. Nothing good can come from that! Just another day on a short line/regional railroad.
You can hear the traction motors. That's the noise you hear
Sounds to me the locomotive isn't loading properly more trouble some to diagnose than not loading at all..meaning its sending power to the traction motors but not as it should
My thoughts are this:
Wet weather (well drizzle/mist actually) along with a slightly overgrown/weedy track, allows for wet grass and other leaves as well as a few tree leaves to fall onto the top of the railhead, where the first train (in a while) arrives to attempt to get traction uphill, to discover, that not matter HOW HIGH they pull that throttle lever (wide-open), their traction motors are revving way too high with almost NO forwards motion, almost 99.9% gaurantee that the railhead NOW has this nasty green slime (from "crushed-vegitation" oils) which has made the track sliprier than if it was coated in old fashioned axle grease.
It was a problem sometimes (during the first wet after a long dry period) up the Comwell Gorge, especially for any motor trollies hauling heavy work fla-top's loaded with rails or sleepers etc., where we could absolutely NOT get any decent forwards traction on crushed leaves (in the autumn mostly) as they released this nasty extremely greasy oill, when a trolley wheel ran over them, which also slowed o a crawl, most of the DJ locomotives they used up that way.
I've seen (in the 1970's) a DJ locomotive that had to be run "light" (decoupled from it's train) several times each way, until they had laid down enough sand, to remove most of the oil off the track, before they went back and recoupled to their train for a final "rush" to get up a steeper section of the old Cromwel Gorge ..
Thus, with all that vegitation (including those rapidly growing bushes that blocked your view) combined with a fine drizzle/light rain, may have greased the track sufficiently, to stop that single loco from gaining enough traction, and why when it stopped reving at 13:16, the weight of the wagons pulling it downhill, meant that as soon as they throttled down, it basically "ran away" backwards thus the crew could barely keep it under control in reverse.
Obviously pissed that the engine couldn't get enough traction, hence a "second" or third repeat run at the hill was required.
I'm assuming they din't use their sanding equipment for some weird reason, or maybe the crew didn't understand that a squirt of SAND would have given them all the traction they needed.
After all, to the crew, there was NO SNOW or ICE (frosty weather/cold rails) and it wasn't raining THAT hard surely?
But see that's the problem with JUST a light drizzle, it is nowhere near enough, to WASH AWAY the crushed vegitation oils, from off the top of the track.
And, without a heavy downpour, or a sunny day, that oil remained tracing around on the weheels, to keep that loco unable to get any traction worth a dime..
If they had "parked" their small "rake" of wagons, and ripped back and forth through there a few times, sanding all the time, there wouldn't have been a problem when reconnecting the loco.
If you didn't see the locomotive in the cemetery you'd probably swear it was a landscape crew working on Mowing and weed trimming. Then it almost starts to sound like a Mixmaster. Independent Locomotive Services should have a few more SD40s in stock but it would probably take a week to get there from Minnesota it was just the way @12:30 how's the speed just suddenly disappears. EI. EI. Oh forget it
Why does it sound like the dynamics are engaged? 50+ year old locomotive on 100+ year old bad track....nice work!
he'd rather walk then ride with you lmao
It's probably because of company policy/insurance reasons.
Jump in some member of the public's car and then get into an accident the first question is going to be "why were you in some dudes car?".
Sad world, but you can thank the ambulance chasers for that.
Wet wheels or bad traction motors….or even the generator is shot…..
Wet rail is bad, but if there's not much traffic the rails might have some rust which makes an excellent polishing compound to make the rails even more slick.
At 12:00 What is the gradient on that stretch of track? It is very relevant to the crew on such a lousy evening
I take it that the crew outlawed at 6pm Friday so they had to leave the train there
Turbocharger sounds like it is going bad.
Wet track and steel… needs another motor… companies will run in notch 8 just to save a doolar
Also turn on Sanders as you approach jill
Sanders would have run empty if needed for such a bad maintenanced railroad.
Where is your scanner? Probably had your answer there? Wet wood wet rails old engine Alter metal loads with water. Maybe they blew a traction motor,
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Yeah 100 tons of scrap with a hundred tons of water lollol.
You people sound so stupid not knowing anything about railroading.
That's one hell of a large cemetery your driving in. 😂
I got a feeling Jaw Tooth is watching this somewhere.
Some friggin awesome graffitti and a beautiful loco!
They might be out of sand. Engine seems to do okay on the level and downhill, but wheels might be slipping when they are
going uphill. Short heavy train doesn't helping either.
Surprised that the track is in use
Well, the local looks like a SD 40-2 which is a strong runner, but to me it’s raining tracks. Wet guy might be low on sand and all that weight cleared at the end. Think somebody miscalculated distribution of the weight he’s doing a whole lot of slipping
Definitely out of sand with all the wet grass and wet rails. Maybe do some tie replacements to get the speed up could help some as well.18 loaded cars roughly 2,340 tons for that SD should be no issue unless out of sand. Even though class 1’s can have the same problem on the main lines.
Maybe their sanders are empty. Weeds and water are slippery.
Surprised the crossings are still activated with such poor maintenance
ELS could do a better job with the rails, engine maintenance, and cutting the grass back for sure. Sounds like that engine is cooked.
He thought he could, but he was wrong!
You don't think all that lumber is extremely heavy?
(4:28) "Have you no respect for the dead, my son!?" HAW-HAW! (That was a good one, wasn't it?)
Well.......... all I can say is, I hope they bury me by the tracks......... Thanks for the video.
Hi Jason poor 503 I noticed the blue boxcars from the view in the cemetery, any idea what the are doing their, noticed it looked like a door was either open or off. Thanks
Looks like maybe scrap metal in some of the gons. You could see it in the last one.
Sounds like a burned out traction motor. Thanks Jason
@@williamralph5442 if a traction motor goes out on a EMD locomotive say on this SD40 all three axles in the truck go down. So the locomotive only has half the tractive effort..On a GE Locomotive one traction motor goes out the other two in the three axle truck still work so you still have almost all the tractive effort
@@robertoja9680Not true, only two are cut out when a fault occurs …1 is connected to 4 -2 is connected to 5- 3 is connected to 6 … so what you witnessed here was a loss of adhesion due to the rear sandbox being depleted of sand… clearly a maintenance issue …. ms~~~
The tracks look a little warped and rough in that area
Great catch 😊
This old horse ain't what she used to be
Hey Jason when are they gonna weed spray the tracks do u think it’s that time of the year?
UUUUGH!!! the sound of that engine cut off and winding down.........and NOICE they broke the train to allow traffic to pass.....
They better do something or the railroad will lose the customer to trucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Looks like the engine is running on a single traction motor or the airhose is not release all of the breaks on the cars, prevent it from pulling.
Yeah you could have it rite their that would explain why they couldn't get to Iron Mountain, I think I remember Jason saying something about 503 having traction motor troubles down by green bay, But I may be mistaken.
What?? 5 out of 6 tm's are bad?? Doubt it.
@@haroldreardon1407 I was mistaken on the quantity of traction motors, I looked it up and you are correct they have 6 so how many do you think it would take to disable that engine?
@@haroldreardon1407 And they have a higher gearing than the dash2s in that their top speed is 83 mph, and the sd40-2 is 60mph, I would think that the dash2 has the advantage, they both weigh 360,000 pounds and both have 6 traction motors
wow x bnfs colors! Plus runnin long hood forward!