Correction: Based on the new info in Scream (2022), we can assume that the second Woodsboro Murders (Scre4m) took place in 2011 (not 2010), because Sam Carpenter in the fifth movie says that it took place 10 years ago.
Now it would be 2012 since Scream 6 fucked up the timeline, but I always thought it took place in 2011 because Gale says her and Dewey have been married for 10 years, Dewey proposed in 2000, he married her in 2001.
I love how Tori Spelling just blatantly spoiled the entire movie for everyone on tv. You couldn’t get away with that today that’s a career ending move.
i like how when tori spellings is being interviewed, she gives away the whole fucking movie. “her boyfriend is actually a serial killer who killed her mother”
I'd be interested to see her introducing other movies and accidentally giving away the whole plot 😂 'Well I play this character who wakes up on a bathroom having been kidnapped by a serial killer, who it turns out is pretending to be a dead guy in the room the whole time!"
We're just assuming Stab plays out as a mystery when it's entirely possible that scenes we don't see show the story from the killer's POV and disregard the mystery element entirely for the audience... leaving just the characters unaware until the final act while the audience just sees it knowing what is going on.
39:25 "Sidney's in every movie, but the last one." So far this is playing out to be true! I like how that the last rule Dewey stopped Randy from finishing, is the one which lead to his death in Scream 2022. Dewey KNOWS the killer is not dead, and returns to finish the job for good, but is distracted for a split second.
The original Scream is honestly just so good, I find new things every time I watch it. Then when I see videos like this, it validates those things for me. Love it.
@@longfellowthefirst5065 So many things. Facial expressions and verbal hints are riddled throughout this film. I’m still picking up on new ones to this day.
@@AcidHead710I thought everybody saw that the first time around. I think he's talking about more nuanced things. For example Stu literally said "Kizoo cuz Schizoo is ouuu" He says it when giving them flowers and inviting to party. By the way he gives Sidney her flower facing up and Tatum facing down Then when Tatum is walking in the house and they do a close up of her is when the lyrics "You're all dead" play
"Because nobody wants to be advertised to when they're in the middle of watching something." *And then an ad starts playing immediately after.* Right you are, right you are.
@@CZsWorld thanks for the explanation in this video, it really helped me. I can tell ur going to be a superstar (even though u have a yt channel XD) in the near future! ❤️🤣
I always assumed Phil and Moureen in Scream 2 got the free tickets from Mickie or Debbie, not from Phil's father who works for sunrise. Like how in I still know what you did last summer they "won" a free trip. It was all about the killer(s) getting the victims to the settings they've chosen.
Unless CZ is getting info from a source not mentioned I think that's most likely, since otherwise it'd be a hell of a coincidence for the exact victims they need to be present at the premiere, and it's clear the only reason they went is because the tickets were free. Mickey as a film student could have probably swung a few tickets to opening night and given them away to a buddy (Phil)
I'm pretty sure Mickey Altieri was the one who gave Maureen and Phil the tickets. They go to the same college, and they have the same classes together, and Mickey takes film theory class. Pretty sure Nancy (Debbie Salt) was the one who gave Mickey the tickets to give to Phil and Maureen. You can see at the end of Scream 2, when Dewey and Gale are in the theater making out on the stage, they see the tv playing recordings of people from afar before they're killed. One video being Randy talking on the phone with ghostface before he is yanked in the van and killed, which was by Nancy, for a split second, you can see somebody filming Phil and Maureen walking into the theater, before it cuts to a live recording from someone in the audio room. Obviously from the wound on Mickey's head, we see that he was the one who wrecked the cop car and attacked Sidney and Hallie. So that means, Nancy Loomis was the one chasing Gale and Dewey in the theater, which would also be the one who was filming in the van before killing Randy, and that means she was recording everything from the beginning. Also if she's a news reporter, she has access to a camera and nobody questioning it. Phil and Maureen walking into the theater was recorded by Mickey, watching them as they walk in, that way he knew when to walk in and, obviously since it's about "stab", he can wear a ghostface costume and walk into the bathroom without anyone questioning him. They each record the person they atrack before attacking them. Mickey recording Phil and Maureen and then walks in the theater. Nancy videoing Randy from the van, and then killing him, and then the live recording of Gale and Dewey before they got chased down and attacked, but of course it wasn't Mickey because he was attacking Sidney and Hallie in the cop car, at the same time Dewey and Gale were attacked in the theater. And the wound on Mickey's head makes it obvious that he was the one who attacked Sidney and Hallie. Which only leave me to believe, that he gave free movie tickets to Phil and Maureen
And Mickey, Mrs. Loomis, Roman, Jill and Charlie are never mentioned or reference ever again in Scream only Billy & Stu are mention in every single movie and Richie and Amber most likely won't ever be mention or reference again it's always Billy & Stu.
There are certain rules of surviving the Sequel of a "Requel": 1. The killer is sometimes the most obvious suspects. 2. Every kill scene always get gruesome. 3. Anybody can die in Requel Sequel, and I mean... anybody. Not to mention, anyone can come back 4. The killer's has the same motivation as he/she did before - Anyone agrees
@Unknown. So the rules of a Requel would be 1. Anyone could come back 2. The killers have similar motives as past killers 3. Anyone could die 4. The killers are obvious
If Gale saved Sidney in 1, and Cotton in 2, shouldn’t have Vince been the “person we thought we hated isn’t so bad” person that should have saved the day in part 5. Just a thought. I loved when Gale and Cotton came out of nowhere to show that they had bigger hearts than we thought and it would have been cool if we got something like that in the newer chapters.
Those two were the most clear examples, I’d say Mark Kincaid was that in 3, Judy was that in 4 and Tara/Sam were kind of that in 5 (they had suspicion placed on them but were good all the way through). Not that Judy and Mark were the most clear suspects but there was some distrust. Liv from 5 also counts, though she’s more like Derek.
I'm pretty sure Samantha Carpenter fills this Niche in the newer movies. She is the one every keeps assuming is the killer when she is actually the hero. Scream 5 had everyone thinking she was the one masterminding everything. Scream 6 had the general public being under the impression Sam got away with murder. Its almost exactly like Cotton Weary's storyline. Falsely accused and turned into a celebrity/public enemy due to his/her relationship with Maureen/Billy.
CZ seriously you did an amazing job on this video it made me wish they hire some up in coming movie directors to make STAB 2-8 shorts or maybe release more of what they have we haven't seen 🤔 Stab is Screams crazy offspring we always wish we could watch for entertainment.
CZs World is probably one of the handfuls of content creators that I actually do all the sometimes annoys steps for ya know, the whole checklist, the sub, bell, ad blah blah blah. I do it because I can see the enormous amount of effort you go into making these things, and frankly, I'm in shock that this channel doesn't have 11 M subs when I what one of these videos (as in all).
Watching this was kinda crazy if “stab” was actually made a movie on real events not just in a movie, I’m surprised they didn’t touch base on how Sidney felt about random people wearing the ghost face mask if I was in her position I would have a hell ton of ptsd seeing people wear the mask of my ex boyfriend-serial killer-dude that killed my mother. Also seeing some sort of rage with producers exploiting her case. Idk maybe I’m overthinking lmao with the new movie it was nice seeing billy in the newest scream though I am personally not the biggest fan of the new scream.
It was a good moment in scream 5 to see Gale remorseful over the Stab franchise even blaming herself for it but Syd reminded her that Billy and more so all the killers made their choices. She wasn't responsible for them anymore than she was.
Great video as always! Although I will note that Billy's mom is possibly, actually named Nancy Loomis (at least that was her name in the script for Scream 4). Debbie Salt was only her alias. It seemed to be an homage to Nancy Loomis/Kyes who played Annie Brackett in Halloween.
@22:05 Randy actually does lists out all three rules in the original theatrical TRAILER for Scream 2. Theatrical Trailer: th-cam.com/video/n2NplkmtPCQ/w-d-xo.html but the last rule is slightly different and actually matches the STAB 2 trailer. The rule that Randy is saying, when cut off in the movie, is: "if you want your sequel to become a franchise, never, ever....". Where as, the third rule in the STAB 2 trailer is "Never, ever, under any circumstance, assume the killer is dead". This is the same third rule featured in the Trailer for Scream 2. When you played the footage, I thought that STAB 2 trailer seemed really familiar. Apparently its a meta recreation of that iconic Scream 2 trailer. I would bet that is why they included it as a special feature on the DVD.
I can't remember where I saw it, but a recent youtube video (possibly Beyond the Mask) about the Scream movies did mention that they filmed the entire Casey sequence with Heather Graham and it is indeed sitting somewhere. So there is a full version of the Casey "Stab Movie" opening sequence.
12:15 I absolutely LOVE how Gale wrote this as her in the center of the story, I’d actually be very interested to see stab to see if Gale is in fact more of the main character as her book implies. Since Stab is based on her book
Whenever I could get the chance to watch Scream 4, I always imagined that STAB 7 was going for a sort of "Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer-esque" approach by flat-out revealing who the killer is in the first 5 minutes; focusing more on the killer rather than the victims.
Just a tiny correction. The events on scream 2 were set in 1998. Although the movie was released in 1996. There is a 2 years gap between the first event and the second one. I love your videos, keep up with this amazing work.
I really like how you explain these because for a second I thought this was all real 😂 like the way you describe the history, the people, their affairs problems etc.. sounds so real forgot this was a movie 😂
It's kinda messed up how in the Scream world, producers will make a movie based on recent real life tragedies for profit. Good thing the movie industry isn't that messed up in reality! Wait a minute-
I always thought Gale was supposed to be starring as herself in the first stab film. Jennifer states "after 2 films in part but I interpreted that to be stab2 and stab3... being Randy comments in Scream 2 ".. soon to be a Major motion picture starring...Gale Weathers." Scream 5 goes the narrative of Gale not being in any of the Stab movies which means Randy's line in part 2 is to be interpreted as sarcasm but it still fits with the history that way. I just always liked the idea that Gale was so vain she'd have chosen to play herself in the film adaptation of her book.
Why'd they take out Red Right Hand from the intro to Stab? :( Love how Scream 4 does predict Scream 5 'There's no element of surprise, you can see everything coming'.
26:20 this is so cool how there’s a storyline to Stab just like Scream. Like where did you get all these documents and evidence about John Milton/ Sunrise Studios Etc. as if they’re real people and places lol I love it! 😂
13:27 apparently Scream 4 had a lot of issues when it came to the soundtrack. A Black Veil Brides song (I'm pretty sure it was Set the World on Fire) was supposed to be featured in the movie, BVB did an interview saying so a while back (I can't remember which one otherwise I'd link it...) but, as we all know it never was. I was really disappointed about it tbh.
bro this was lit and intresting you got me thinking of wanting to do a story with scream vs stab would be twisted asf but i would have write it all out and see how both stories would play out the way you conneteced all the movies with each other was dope
Billy Loomis: Get revenge on Sidney's mother for causing his family to break up Stu Macher: Peer pressure Mickey Altieri: Gain infamy for the Windsor College murders Debbie Loomis: Get revenge on Sidney for killing her son Roman Bridger: Get revenge on his mother for cruelly dumping him and frame his half-sister for his murders Jill Roberts: Become the new "Sidney Prescott" and get famous Charlie Walker: To help Jill care out her plans Amber Freeman: Help Richie create a "requel" for Stab 8. Richie Kirsche: Save the "Stab" franchise and Frame Sam Carpenter for all the murders
I always thought the lack of Red Right Hand in 4 was a nod to it being a satire of horror reboots, where most of the same music isn't used. Always thought the use of it in 2022 (which as a satire of legacy sequels, of course would bring back a classic song) was a perfect response to that
I think Sonia & Ally under the Stab 2 credits were meant to be the head sorority girls (Rebecca Gayheart & Portia de Rossi) who were constantly after Sidney to join.
14:04 You got that right! Nobody wants to be advertised to while they're in the middle of watching something! Examples of such annoyances include: Trainwell, PDS Debt, Better Help, and Audible.
Fact, the actor who plays Phil in Scream 2 Omar Epps played as Marcus in Dracula 2000, as well as tv shows such as House MD as Eric Foreman and ER as Dr. Dennis Gant (There are others but those three I recognize along with Scream 2).
Thank you CZ I'm super sick 😫 🤒 😷 🤧 🤢 🤮 laying in bed and hearing my bell notification and seeing a new video from makes me hella happy! I may be sick but I still show up to horror history class, I'll see you next time assuming we both survive.
3:29 Billy’s mother was called Nancy Loomis but changed it to Debbie Salt to be undetectable for scream 2. Incidentally Nancy Loomis was also the name of the actress who played Annie in Halloween
Love the video! I think the only thing you left out was the original Stab 8, IE Universal’s Halloween Horror Night tram tour through the production and set of the new movie. Only to come face to face with ghost face as he’s murdering that new cast and the guests on set. Which would have meant the film would have been canceled. Assuming that could be part of the reason Stab 8 in Scream (2022) is a reboot! Am I reaching here? 😂
I think I need to wake up to the real world. Im so into scream that for a second during this video, at the start when you showed the scream 5 stab cast thing and I saw "Stu macher", I was like, "OHH BRO IMAGINE IF THEY MADE A MOVIE BASED ON THE WOODSBORO MURDERS" And then I realized like... bro it didnt happen irl and scream IS the movie for the fictional story
what if maureen had been having an affair with loomis before they left sunrise, roman could be his child and billys brother....also, anna pacquin starred in the red riding hood segment of trick r treat and kristen bell starred in the horror movie pulse, both around this same time i believe so having them here is a nice little meta treat
That part about the missing actresses from the movies is such an important detail I never noticed. I hope they include some background into it or a deeper connection to the ghostface killings.
Is nobody talking about how at 5:43 Ron Howard is shown to have portrayed Principal Himbry in Stab? Because Henry Winkler who played Principal Himbry co starred With Ron Howard on happy days in the 70s, and in Principal Himbry’s Closet in scream there’s a leather jacket on a hanger which most likely homage to his performance as the Fonz
Makes sense the whole time traveling thing didn't work out in Stab 5. You might as well be adding a new subgenre of science-fiction into a slasher horror based that uses non-supernatural/scifi serial killers and that's risky when dealing with returning fans coming to see the sequel. If you want to add a new genre to a sequel of a franchise, make sure it goes with the whole theme the predocessors used to keep fans of the predocessors.
I can understand wanting to add something new and unexpected as viewers expects the characters to learn from their mistakes in the previous film and its hoped they won't make the same ones again, thus why you need new and unexpected to help keep the characters on their toes. But becareful in how new unexpected you are going with the sequel
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Correction: Based on the new info in Scream (2022), we can assume that the second Woodsboro Murders (Scre4m) took place in 2011 (not 2010), because Sam Carpenter in the fifth movie says that it took place 10 years ago.
She specifically says 2011
Not to mention the movie came out in 2011 so why would it randomly be set in 2010? Don’t all the movies take place in the year they were released?
Kirby said so in scream 6 that murders by Jill and Charlie took place in 2011
Now it would be 2012 since Scream 6 fucked up the timeline, but I always thought it took place in 2011 because Gale says her and Dewey have been married for 10 years, Dewey proposed in 2000, he married her in 2001.
@Catherine obviously.
I love how you treat the events of Scream as a true story and then act as if stab is the movie adaptation like in the scream films. So cool!
No I can't see the video like bro it real life like read scram not real life
that’s because that’s how it’s supposed to be lol, like that’s literally canon.
@@ricardo8640 dude I know... I'm saying that the TH-camr acts like scream is a real story and never once breaks the immersion
@@studioarentain3960 fair enough
@@studioarentain3960 Sherlockians have been doing this for decades. (Not talking about BBCSherlockians.)
14:27 I actually love it when people use these side-by-side comparisons, don't hesitate to do more of these in the future
I absolutely loved this comparison! It is such a clever look at the Stab movies!!
come to my channel and check out the side by side playlist i have tons of these! Even one for scream
why you everywhere?
My dad said that Randy should’ve come back in a coma in the more recent film
Reply 5
I love how Tori Spelling just blatantly spoiled the entire movie for everyone on tv. You couldn’t get away with that today that’s a career ending move.
Unless you're Tom Holland.
@@babyfaceweeb8937 I feel like most marvel leaks are planned/fake.
I think it is also a reference to Skeet Ulrich saying that he plays a killer in his next movie (Scream) during an interview
Well if it’s based on the real recent murders, it probably won’t be marketed as a murder mystery like Scream was.
That’s definitely something tori would do
i like how when tori spellings is being interviewed, she gives away the whole fucking movie. “her boyfriend is actually a serial killer who killed her mother”
I'd be interested to see her introducing other movies and accidentally giving away the whole plot 😂
'Well I play this character who wakes up on a bathroom having been kidnapped by a serial killer, who it turns out is pretending to be a dead guy in the room the whole time!"
In their world it's not a spoiler because they are familiar with the story from the news.
It’s an adaption of a book.
Yes she is
We're just assuming Stab plays out as a mystery when it's entirely possible that scenes we don't see show the story from the killer's POV and disregard the mystery element entirely for the audience... leaving just the characters unaware until the final act while the audience just sees it knowing what is going on.
This is the level of journalistic integrity I expect from TH-cam videos about movie franchises that don't exist. Thank you so much.
You’ve laid this out clearly and in detail, and yet my small brain is still so confused by the meta layers 😂
It’s not hard to understand
39:25 "Sidney's in every movie, but the last one." So far this is playing out to be true!
I like how that the last rule Dewey stopped Randy from finishing, is the one which lead to his death in Scream 2022. Dewey KNOWS the killer is not dead, and returns to finish the job for good, but is distracted for a split second.
Who else, out of curiosity would love to see what made Stab 8 so bad, or the time travel in Stab 5.
Me
I hope they show some Stab 5 footage next time.
@@CZsWorld Same
@@CZsWorld maybe n scream 6
I want to see the time travel one omg
The original Scream is honestly just so good, I find new things every time I watch it. Then when I see videos like this, it validates those things for me. Love it.
out of curiosity, like what things?
@@longfellowthefirst5065 So many things. Facial expressions and verbal hints are riddled throughout this film. I’m still picking up on new ones to this day.
Like when sidney and her friend are at the gas station and you can see ghostface through the fridge door following them
Yeah I just noticed for the first time Billy blinks twice every time he lies to the sheriff. It's obvious now but cool nuance.
@@AcidHead710I thought everybody saw that the first time around. I think he's talking about more nuanced things.
For example Stu literally said "Kizoo cuz Schizoo is ouuu"
He says it when giving them flowers and inviting to party.
By the way he gives Sidney her flower facing up and Tatum facing down
Then when Tatum is walking in the house and they do a close up of her is when the lyrics "You're all dead" play
"Because nobody wants to be advertised to when they're in the middle of watching something."
*And then an ad starts playing immediately after.*
Right you are, right you are.
This is why I have Premium
It's good to see you taking a STAB at this Franchise hehe.
Respect and keep up the epic work.
It's gonna be a scream baby
I forgor💀
@@CZsWorld thanks for the explanation in this video, it really helped me. I can tell ur going to be a superstar (even though u have a yt channel XD) in the near future! ❤️🤣
I always assumed Phil and Moureen in Scream 2 got the free tickets from Mickie or Debbie, not from Phil's father who works for sunrise. Like how in I still know what you did last summer they "won" a free trip. It was all about the killer(s) getting the victims to the settings they've chosen.
Unless CZ is getting info from a source not mentioned I think that's most likely, since otherwise it'd be a hell of a coincidence for the exact victims they need to be present at the premiere, and it's clear the only reason they went is because the tickets were free. Mickey as a film student could have probably swung a few tickets to opening night and given them away to a buddy (Phil)
I'm pretty sure Mickey Altieri was the one who gave Maureen and Phil the tickets. They go to the same college, and they have the same classes together, and Mickey takes film theory class. Pretty sure Nancy (Debbie Salt) was the one who gave Mickey the tickets to give to Phil and Maureen. You can see at the end of Scream 2, when Dewey and Gale are in the theater making out on the stage, they see the tv playing recordings of people from afar before they're killed. One video being Randy talking on the phone with ghostface before he is yanked in the van and killed, which was by Nancy, for a split second, you can see somebody filming Phil and Maureen walking into the theater, before it cuts to a live recording from someone in the audio room. Obviously from the wound on Mickey's head, we see that he was the one who wrecked the cop car and attacked Sidney and Hallie. So that means, Nancy Loomis was the one chasing Gale and Dewey in the theater, which would also be the one who was filming in the van before killing Randy, and that means she was recording everything from the beginning. Also if she's a news reporter, she has access to a camera and nobody questioning it. Phil and Maureen walking into the theater was recorded by Mickey, watching them as they walk in, that way he knew when to walk in and, obviously since it's about "stab", he can wear a ghostface costume and walk into the bathroom without anyone questioning him. They each record the person they atrack before attacking them. Mickey recording Phil and Maureen and then walks in the theater. Nancy videoing Randy from the van, and then killing him, and then the live recording of Gale and Dewey before they got chased down and attacked, but of course it wasn't Mickey because he was attacking Sidney and Hallie in the cop car, at the same time Dewey and Gale were attacked in the theater. And the wound on Mickey's head makes it obvious that he was the one who attacked Sidney and Hallie. Which only leave me to believe, that he gave free movie tickets to Phil and Maureen
And Mickey, Mrs. Loomis, Roman, Jill and Charlie are never mentioned or reference ever again in Scream only Billy & Stu are mention in every single movie and Richie and Amber most likely won't ever be mention or reference again it's always Billy & Stu.
shame cause I loved the mickey character along with amber and richie
Interesting point
because they were the first
Amber was my least favorite. Mickey was always my favorite... And gotta love Mrs Loomis 😁
Which sucks, Mrs. Loomis is my fave ghost face
There are certain rules of surviving the Sequel of a "Requel":
1. The killer is sometimes the most obvious suspects.
2. Every kill scene always get gruesome.
3. Anybody can die in Requel Sequel, and I mean... anybody. Not to mention, anyone can come back
4. The killer's has the same motivation as he/she did before
- Anyone agrees
I'd add to 3: Anyone can _come back_ too.
I do
@@DannyFedora Hawkins comes back in Halloween Kills too
@@DannyFedora happy now?
@Unknown. So the rules of a Requel would be
1. Anyone could come back
2. The killers have similar motives as past killers
3. Anyone could die
4. The killers are obvious
I’d love to see a scene in Scream 6 where there is a Stab convention going on in New York and there is a panel with the (surviving) cast of Stab.
It's so amazing seeing the Stab movies getting covered. It would be cool seeing those movies becoming real.
They could make so much money
I wish they would’ve done that
I would literally Scream
I really appreciate the side-by-side shot and how much editing that probably took you to do. Thanks for the amazing content as always Professor ♥
the AMOUNT of work in this video is INSANE ! research and editing are extremely good! Thank you so much for this video !
If Gale saved Sidney in 1, and Cotton in 2, shouldn’t have Vince been the “person we thought we hated isn’t so bad” person that should have saved the day in part 5. Just a thought. I loved when Gale and Cotton came out of nowhere to show that they had bigger hearts than we thought and it would have been cool if we got something like that in the newer chapters.
That, would've been dope imo!
Those two were the most clear examples, I’d say Mark Kincaid was that in 3, Judy was that in 4 and Tara/Sam were kind of that in 5 (they had suspicion placed on them but were good all the way through). Not that Judy and Mark were the most clear suspects but there was some distrust. Liv from 5 also counts, though she’s more like Derek.
I think Liv was sort of set up as the Gale/Cotton analogue, then they switch it up by just capping her instead of letting her show her heroic side
I'm pretty sure Samantha Carpenter fills this Niche in the newer movies. She is the one every keeps assuming is the killer when she is actually the hero. Scream 5 had everyone thinking she was the one masterminding everything. Scream 6 had the general public being under the impression Sam got away with murder. Its almost exactly like Cotton Weary's storyline. Falsely accused and turned into a celebrity/public enemy due to his/her relationship with Maureen/Billy.
"You can't read Gale Weathers' books." They're missing a great merch opportunity there.
It's funny that Richie and Amber could stand the time travel but ended up going crazy because they couldn't stand Ryan Johnson.😂😂😂
Must have been because of last jedi.
CZ seriously you did an amazing job on this video it made me wish they hire some up in coming movie directors to make STAB 2-8 shorts or maybe release more of what they have we haven't seen 🤔 Stab is Screams crazy offspring we always wish we could watch for entertainment.
knowing the particular song at a small clip in the movie, omfg!!!
This was a trip! The amount of work that went into it must have been insane! I really loved it.
CZs World is probably one of the handfuls of content creators that I actually do all the sometimes annoys steps for ya know, the whole checklist, the sub, bell, ad blah blah blah. I do it because I can see the enormous amount of effort you go into making these things, and frankly, I'm in shock that this channel doesn't have 11 M subs when I what one of these videos (as in all).
All this for a movie WITHIN a movie! Well done! For the studio for making it and you for documenting it!
Watching this was kinda crazy if “stab” was actually made a movie on real events not just in a movie, I’m surprised they didn’t touch base on how Sidney felt about random people wearing the ghost face mask if I was in her position I would have a hell ton of ptsd seeing people wear the mask of my ex boyfriend-serial killer-dude that killed my mother. Also seeing some sort of rage with producers exploiting her case. Idk maybe I’m overthinking lmao with the new movie it was nice seeing billy in the newest scream though I am personally not the biggest fan of the new scream.
Seconds into this and he's already blowing my mind. I never knew Billy's dad worked in Hollywood!
So excited for this video man! You really did the full deep dive on Stab! I really hope they finally mention Mickey, Ms Loomis and Roman in Scream 6.
Yeah Mrs Loomis I can see getting referenced and maybe Roman but mickey would be fun
one mill. that’s just crazy, i’ll never forget you because you helped me get over my fear of chucky and start to love horror movies. congrats!
It was a good moment in scream 5 to see Gale remorseful over the Stab franchise even blaming herself for it but Syd reminded her that Billy and more so all the killers made their choices. She wasn't responsible for them anymore than she was.
Gale was right and Sid never apologized. That always annoyed me
I absolutely love your deep dives! You really deserve some kind of horror award because you go way beyond 🏆⚰️🔪
Great video as always! Although I will note that Billy's mom is possibly, actually named Nancy Loomis (at least that was her name in the script for Scream 4). Debbie Salt was only her alias. It seemed to be an homage to Nancy Loomis/Kyes who played Annie Brackett in Halloween.
@22:05 Randy actually does lists out all three rules in the original theatrical TRAILER for Scream 2. Theatrical Trailer: th-cam.com/video/n2NplkmtPCQ/w-d-xo.html but the last rule is slightly different and actually matches the STAB 2 trailer.
The rule that Randy is saying, when cut off in the movie, is: "if you want your sequel to become a franchise, never, ever....".
Where as, the third rule in the STAB 2 trailer is "Never, ever, under any circumstance, assume the killer is dead". This is the same third rule featured in the Trailer for Scream 2.
When you played the footage, I thought that STAB 2 trailer seemed really familiar. Apparently its a meta recreation of that iconic Scream 2 trailer. I would bet that is why they included it as a special feature on the DVD.
This is like watching a horror histories episode from the scream universe . Love it man
I can't remember where I saw it, but a recent youtube video (possibly Beyond the Mask) about the Scream movies did mention that they filmed the entire Casey sequence with Heather Graham and it is indeed sitting somewhere. So there is a full version of the Casey "Stab Movie" opening sequence.
“Because nobody wants to be advertised to while they’re watching something.”
*ad plays*
12:15 I absolutely LOVE how Gale wrote this as her in the center of the story, I’d actually be very interested to see stab to see if Gale is in fact more of the main character as her book implies. Since Stab is based on her book
Whenever I could get the chance to watch Scream 4, I always imagined that STAB 7 was going for a sort of "Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer-esque" approach by flat-out revealing who the killer is in the first 5 minutes; focusing more on the killer rather than the victims.
The franchise need to move away and stay away from Woodsboro we have had 3 murder sprees in Woodsboro already.
Stab or Scream?
@@CZsWorld Scream
For real life
Stab 9: Dead meat edition!
@@mr.checkyourself4672 it is lol Funny you said that. The sixth one is in NYC
Just a tiny correction. The events on scream 2 were set in 1998. Although the movie was released in 1996. There is a 2 years gap between the first event and the second one.
I love your videos, keep up with this amazing work.
"Because nobody wants to be advertised to while theyre in the middle of watching something" i literally got an ad two seconds after he said that.
Kinda ironic how Jill’s whole goal was to become famous yet the events of Scream 4 were never realized on film in the Stab franchise
can you imagine Luke Wilson and Vince Vaughn as serial killers? either brilliant or hilarious
I think Ethan Embry would have made a better Stu.
LMAO
@@mightymorphinmatt420 so obscure and 90s. I love it!
@@patrick13183 And Clay Pigeons
I really like how you explain these because for a second I thought this was all real 😂 like the way you describe the history, the people, their affairs problems etc.. sounds so real forgot this was a movie 😂
If they are going to do anything with Stab in the next few films, they really should show more of these famous actors playing the roles.
It's kinda messed up how in the Scream world, producers will make a movie based on recent real life tragedies for profit. Good thing the movie industry isn't that messed up in reality! Wait a minute-
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This is the most meta video ever created, this is god tier research and editing.
I always thought Gale was supposed to be starring as herself in the first stab film. Jennifer states "after 2 films in part but I interpreted that to be stab2 and stab3... being Randy comments in Scream 2 ".. soon to be a Major motion picture starring...Gale Weathers."
Scream 5 goes the narrative of Gale not being in any of the Stab movies which means Randy's line in part 2 is to be interpreted as sarcasm but it still fits with the history that way. I just always liked the idea that Gale was so vain she'd have chosen to play herself in the film adaptation of her book.
Such an amazing and intricate back story in a story. Well done sir!
Why'd they take out Red Right Hand from the intro to Stab? :(
Love how Scream 4 does predict Scream 5 'There's no element of surprise, you can see everything coming'.
26:20 this is so cool how there’s a storyline to Stab just like Scream. Like where did you get all these documents and evidence about John Milton/ Sunrise Studios Etc. as if they’re real people and places lol I love it! 😂
Wow, I can only imagine how much work went into this. Fantastic. Nice tie.
“Because nobody wants to be advertised to in the middle of watching”
*gets a ad 0.5 seconds later*
Mate you are going IN on the research! You do such a good job! And congratufuckinglations on 1 millions subscribers! You deserve it king ♥️
The Stab franchise is iconic, glad it continues to this day
13:27 apparently Scream 4 had a lot of issues when it came to the soundtrack. A Black Veil Brides song (I'm pretty sure it was Set the World on Fire) was supposed to be featured in the movie, BVB did an interview saying so a while back (I can't remember which one otherwise I'd link it...) but, as we all know it never was. I was really disappointed about it tbh.
bro this was lit and intresting you got me thinking of wanting to do a story with scream vs stab would be twisted asf but i would have write it all out and see how both stories would play out the way you conneteced all the movies with each other was dope
AYE!! What a way to enjoy my day off. Nothing like a good history lesson 🔪
Enjoy your day off.
Just wanted to say how much much I appreciate this content. Keep going!
I swear I didn’t even realize this was about the Stab movies in Scream and not the actual scream movie until about 10 mins in 😂
I love the fact you treated this as and more how much effort you clearlynput into it.
Straight faced all the way through. If I could two thumbs up
I read the original Scream took place in early October. Love your videos!!
Billy Loomis: Get revenge on Sidney's mother for causing his family to break up
Stu Macher: Peer pressure
Mickey Altieri: Gain infamy for the Windsor College murders
Debbie Loomis: Get revenge on Sidney for killing her son
Roman Bridger: Get revenge on his mother for cruelly dumping him and frame his half-sister for his murders
Jill Roberts: Become the new "Sidney Prescott" and get famous
Charlie Walker: To help Jill care out her plans
Amber Freeman: Help Richie create a "requel" for Stab 8.
Richie Kirsche: Save the "Stab" franchise and Frame Sam Carpenter for all the murders
its actually Nancy Loomis
@@danteferraro23 whatever
@@Unknown-oo4hh its true
I always thought the lack of Red Right Hand in 4 was a nod to it being a satire of horror reboots, where most of the same music isn't used.
Always thought the use of it in 2022 (which as a satire of legacy sequels, of course would bring back a classic song) was a perfect response to that
Scream 4 was about remakes not reboots.
“No one likes ads while they’re watching something.” *Google ad starts* 😅
Never been a horror movie fan, but czs world makes the backstories very interesting. Excellent work.
I like that even before the events of scream there was already something scary/shady going on with the actresses going missing mysteriously
I think Sonia & Ally under the Stab 2 credits were meant to be the head sorority girls (Rebecca Gayheart & Portia de Rossi) who were constantly after Sidney to join.
14:04 You got that right! Nobody wants to be advertised to while they're in the middle of watching something! Examples of such annoyances include: Trainwell, PDS Debt, Better Help, and Audible.
Congrats on hitting 1mil subscribers! I'm so happy for you continue making amazing content
Incredible level of detail and digging. I'm shocked. Well done
I’m kind of hoping that they make another Scream and bring Stu back as the killer.
I’m glad you finally made it to 1 million. Congrats.
Fact, the actor who plays Phil in Scream 2 Omar Epps played as Marcus in Dracula 2000, as well as tv shows such as House MD as Eric Foreman and ER as Dr. Dennis Gant (There are others but those three I recognize along with Scream 2).
congrats Czsworld on hitting 1 million subscribers
Have you considered doing anything on The Haunting of Hill House and how it compares to Rose Red and The Haunting? That would be awesome!
One of the best lines of the entire franchise.
“He was making a movie called Stab, he was stabbed “
Thank you CZ I'm super sick 😫 🤒 😷 🤧 🤢 🤮 laying in bed and hearing my bell notification and seeing a new video from makes me hella happy! I may be sick but I still show up to horror history class, I'll see you next time assuming we both survive.
Get well soon (assuming you survive)
3:29 Billy’s mother was called Nancy Loomis but changed it to Debbie Salt to be undetectable for scream 2. Incidentally Nancy Loomis was also the name of the actress who played Annie in Halloween
I think since Mathew lillard was in stab 8 that was a hint he will be the ghost face killer next time wow what an idea gale better write a book about
I'd love to see a scream/stab prequel of these stories leading up to how SCREAM happened!
Love the video! I think the only thing you left out was the original Stab 8, IE Universal’s Halloween Horror Night tram tour through the production and set of the new movie. Only to come face to face with ghost face as he’s murdering that new cast and the guests on set. Which would have meant the film would have been canceled. Assuming that could be part of the reason Stab 8 in Scream (2022) is a reboot! Am I reaching here? 😂
No that’s brilliant
I could be dumb for asking but did this actually happen during HHN as part of the tram tour or did you just make this up?
@@microwavedpepsi it happened lol look it up!
I think I need to wake up to the real world. Im so into scream that for a second during this video, at the start when you showed the scream 5 stab cast thing and I saw "Stu macher", I was like, "OHH BRO IMAGINE IF THEY MADE A MOVIE BASED ON THE WOODSBORO MURDERS" And then I realized like... bro it didnt happen irl and scream IS the movie for the fictional story
You’re a legend CZ!
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after watching you for a while.. you’ve done. you’ve finally convinced me to get audible lol. you’re right, I buy books and they sit there. :(
Love these movies and your content. Absolute bangers!
Thanks Jake!
Thumbs up people. Too many subscribers for such a low number. This man deserves pay in the form of metal AF
Excellent video!! I always get a good laugh out of Luke Wilson’s Billy Loomis hair!
Gale is always so bossy and controls Dewey all the time
"No one likes being advertised to"
*Immediate ad*
Lol, nice one.😊
what if maureen had been having an affair with loomis before they left sunrise, roman could be his child and billys brother....also, anna pacquin starred in the red riding hood segment of trick r treat and kristen bell starred in the horror movie pulse, both around this same time i believe so having them here is a nice little meta treat
That part about the missing actresses from the movies is such an important detail I never noticed. I hope they include some background into it or a deeper connection to the ghostface killings.
Love you czsworld keep it up 💪🏼💪🏼
Thanks for the support!
Is nobody talking about how at 5:43 Ron Howard is shown to have portrayed Principal Himbry in Stab? Because Henry Winkler who played Principal Himbry co starred With Ron Howard on happy days in the 70s, and in Principal Himbry’s Closet in scream there’s a leather jacket on a hanger which most likely homage to his performance as the Fonz
this is what ive been waiting for
I didn't think anyone would expect this video, but good to hear!
This was amazing. Everything I could have hoped for as a Scream and Horror fan. Thank you for all your work putting this together
Another great video, love your Horror History!
Gale Weathers would be so proud.
Makes sense the whole time traveling thing didn't work out in Stab 5. You might as well be adding a new subgenre of science-fiction into a slasher horror based that uses non-supernatural/scifi serial killers and that's risky when dealing with returning fans coming to see the sequel. If you want to add a new genre to a sequel of a franchise, make sure it goes with the whole theme the predocessors used to keep fans of the predocessors.
Beauty of being a fanfiction writer is that you can follow the same rules involving genres as the movies and the books.
I can understand wanting to add something new and unexpected as viewers expects the characters to learn from their mistakes in the previous film and its hoped they won't make the same ones again, thus why you need new and unexpected to help keep the characters on their toes. But becareful in how new unexpected you are going with the sequel
Ayo, so much stab in this history lesson lmao. Enjoyed it quite a lot as you found so many unnoticed (by me) things. Also congrats on a mil :D