God of War 5 Ragnarok - Thor Beats Jormungandr & Send Him Back In Time Scene (Thor Vs World Serpent)
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- God of War Ragnarok PS5 Thor Vs The World Serpent fight and Thor defeats Jormungandr the giant snake and sends him back in time scene
Also includes how Atreus gives life to The World serpent in the first place, Mimir explains post ending how The World Serpent is stuck in Ragnarok lop of time
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jormungandr's slow talking and sheer voice shaking the world is so cool. Literally feels like you are face to face with a giant being.
Well because In a way you are
😐 it is a giant snake
🤨
@@nicorogervonlohengramm 😐
@@poo4320 it is a giant giant-snake.
For anyone who did not understand, the Jormungandr we saw when he fought with Thor was freshly baked from the oven, our Jormungandr from GoW 2018 is sleeping somewhere in Migard and retired peacefully since he was already done with getting slapped by Thor's hammer.
Freshly baked from the oven? 😂
@@darthrevan1812 in game the one who sent back to GOW 2018 it's the snake made by atreus, and the snake from 2018 still chillin somewhere
@@amri007able so basically Atreus just revived a random snake, that snake became a giant and then fought thor, snake dissapeared and appeared on midgard, then meets young Atreus?
Just how fast did that snake grow!?
@@amri007able I just thought the way he worded it was funny
So from what I got, The Jormungandr we met in the first game was the young one set back in time. We know this because he finds Atrues familiar as well as biting Thors statute off. He knows Atrues because he idk “resurrected” him as a “baby” and he slithered away which, we don't know how, showed up in asgard and thus sent back in time because of Thor.
When freya says “there's still signs oh him” the original Jormungandr, which we met in the first game, is currently chilling in Midgard. Because his younger self which was ressurected is fighting in asgard
This technically means at one point there was two Jörmungandr in the same time period.
Which means he doesn't live in a time loop just different versions ig
i wished the two met and fought thor. why didn't the older one go to ragnarok if he knew he was going to be sent back?
Yes that was time loop, The one from first game is still here while the younger was sent back to be that version that is chilling in midgard.
@@DgardsGaming not really a loop because it technically ends.
So What happened to the one that we met in 2018 gow
@@Baguette911 it still around, just stuck in midgard (the lake in the first game).
I think the game depicted Ragnarok better than the Marvel movie
Definitly, but they arent know for accurate representations
@@sinister7290 Yes, Marvel's Thor is like a bodybuilder
This game didn't need Marvel humor
@Alexander Jones this game has marvel humour?
@@containedhurricane And way stronger too. I mean the comic one like Rune King Thor.
So from jormungandr's perspective:
1. Atreus and Angrboda "resurect" him
2. He fights Thor and gets back in time
3. He meets us in God of war 4
So now he is still alive.
Bingo. The easiest way to understand this is from Jormungandr’s perspective.
1. Resurrected by Atreus/Loki and Angrboda in Jotunheim
2. Fights Thor during Ragnarok, gets sent back in time to Midgard
3. Gets awakened by Kratos and a young Atreus.
4. Atreus comes looking for advice, which then sends him to Ironwood.
5. Cycle repeats/complete, depending how people want to look at it.
@@prairiefarmer5994 Yup. People think Jormungandr is stuck in a time loop but no, the young one is sent back in time and "becomes" the old one, the old one didn't fight Thor a second time because his "young" self, who at some point existed at the same time as the "old" one, is the one who fought Thor.
It's very difficult to understand but one of the best ways to put it would be: jormungandr "watches" his "young" self fight thor and getting sent back in time, but in fact does not intervene in his own "past"/ relative "present".
@@prairiefarmer5994 God dammit, thats so amazing !!
@@prairiefarmer5994 but the one that we see in Ragnarok when we gonna talk to him with atreus and sindri in Midgard is the same one as the 2018 one ?
@@alu9140 yes. My assumption would be young Jotmungandr came with Angrboda and Fenrir from Jotunheim. Old Jormungandr never leaves Midgard, so if its an instance of him on Midgard, its after Thor punched him back in time.
So let me get this straight
Birth in Ironwood--> Fight with Thor--> Back to Midgard--> The one in Midgard sends Loki to Ironwood--> cycle repeats
Kinda yeh
No the serpent in Midgard stays their asleep
@@lavu9576 until Kratos and Atreus gets there to blow the horn… it’s created a parallel universe
Trap in timeloop
@@yuda7ok Not really. The Present one is still in Midgard.
To all people thinking jormungandr is in a infinite time loop, it's not, the one send back in time is a younger version of him, the same "little" snake that atreus and angrboda brought back to life
@@lilrice7865 not the same one, just the younger one, the other is sleeping in midgard
Like a light loop
@@reynaldoalonso5887 Yeah Mimir said that the serpent didn't follow them when kratos used the horn. Also if you look close the jordmungandr that was fighting in the ragnarok didn't have his "beard" (that green thing looking like algae).
@@cipherrex516 yeap, i notice that little change too, also i think the older one is ¿bigger?, im not 100% sure though
then were the hell did the original one come from?
People: Thor is weak in comparison
Thor: hits you so hard you go back in time
Nah that was young Jormingander he was too inexperienced
@@guardiandarkness5345 I don't think being inexperienced has anything to do with being hit so hard that you go back in time
They are either someone idiotic dctards or toxic how tards.
Thor is probably the most powerful God in the gown universe
@@guardiandarkness5345 Bro Thor is literally the strongest god in norse mythology
@@MrLucho127 why he get one shot by odin then
Actors who played Sindri and Odin should be given awards. Absolute fantastic performance from them
Agreed!
I would say the same for heimdall as much as we hate him the amount of face expressions and cadence in his voice was amazing
@@alexroca3240 Agreed. Even little things like that kick he gave his riding companion after it fell added so much personality to him
@@Yougotcaged102 the way he said “pity” was so good I need a live action of ragnarok
I liked Thor in the final fight as well showed a lot of emotion and anger
If thor is strong enough to hit someone so hard they’re sent back through fucking TIME. The fight between him and kratos should have been bigger
yea agreed the fight between kratos and thor shouldve at least caused a couple shockwaves and craters
Thor and Kratos are both Killing Machines, Monsters and they just fought in Front of Odins house. Even in the fight against Baldur there were earthquakes and more destruction. In this point they were just lazy with the work. I wished they would atleast destroy a mountain or smt like that. Also the fact that Kratos didnt even look exhausted when he fight Thor just doesnt make sense. One of two disappointing moments in the game...
@@see_ya_chump4307 yeah, I get why they needed to end the fight in front of Odin’s house but they could’ve easily let the fight start in the battlegrounds of ragnarok then they end up there so they can have as much destruction as would’ve made sense
Damn imagine if they accidenlty go in the time where kratos beat zeus
Thor is obviously stronger than Kratos but the game is called God of War. And they can't have their main protagonist dying. There would be no more sequels without Kratos.
This is madness, the serpent is in a perpetual time loop
Till the cycle was broken pretty sure it’s stated that the giant snake is the one brought back to life by the boy
he could just avoid the war
the serpent isn't in a loop
Madness? No…. THIS. WAS. SPARTA!!!!!
AAAHHHHHHHHGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH
No the old serpent from 2018 is just chilling in midgard, the one that got sent back was the younger one
It's really clever how they included Loki and Angrboda being the parents of Fenrir, Jörmungandr (and Hel) without actually showing Angrboda, giving birth to them or something... Loki is their "father" but just by inserting the soul into their bodies... It's a shams that they didn't include Sleipnir in this game ( besides in some paintings)
Yeah uh, that would have been a weird situation for Atreus...
@@chronic5577 Indeeeeeed, but due to rule 34 I just know there will be some strange fan-art in some dark corner of the internet...
@@Sindrijo fr.
Seeing as how they actually gave a name to the unnamed builder of the walls around Asgard. I think they drastically changed the story since they weren't including Sleipnir. In the actual story Svaðilfari was supposed to be the actual reason the builder was able to finish the walls so quickly. Sleipnir came to be because loki tricked Svaðilfari into running away from the builder, being transformed as a mare luring the stead away. Sleipnir not showing up kind of makes sense because they completely changed the story. The builder didn't actual finish his work because of Loki's tricks and Thor killed him when he found out he was a jotunn. They actually had no idea the builder was a giant. While in God of War they made it explicit and had the giant be able to finish their work out of the sheer fact they are a giant.
They could have obviously done something with any random horse but I don't think it would have had as much impact. God of War works because many of the changes still hold relevance to the actual stories. While this is one of the few stories they basically completely rewrote and excluded or added major characters.
@@Sindrijo don't put that image in my mind....
Why is nobody talking about how Surtur hand just went through Jormungandr?
Listen I absolutely love this game, however I couldn’t help but feel underwhelmed with ragnorok. I was expecting a grander scaled battle, something that this franchise usually delivers like no other. I wish their was more chaos,like For example, how cool would it have been to fight Thor on jormungandr back and in the backround you can see Asgard’s walls destroyed, odins valkyries fighting freya and Freyr in the sky and countless bifrost enemies dropping in from the sky on to the battlefields. Also That could have made Thor knocking jormungandr back in time Way more epic being that we were closer to the action. This game is still a classic I just wish ragnorok was more chaotic.
I think they handled it the way that doesn't make the game boring while still maintaining the storyline, the chaos you want will require more allies and that will increase the playtime too much and make the game boring, or if they made the allies appear out of nowhere for the sake of chaos then that would be cheap from a story prespective
@@drp7751 I don’t think it would have made the game any longer. Those allies you speak of could have simply came from any of the 8 other realms. They didnt need a back story. Mimir went to hellhiem to recruit yet we see no helhiem soldiers, so why even have him go recruit them if they never show up. Sindri went to recruit dwarves but No dwarves joined the fight, not to mention fenrir absence who had the power of gram, there was so much potential to display the power of these gods and make ragnorok truly epic. I mean in god of war 2018 in the final battle freya controls the corpse of a dead giant the size of a mountain with her magic yet I felt I barley saw her during ragnorok. Same with Thor let me see how drunk with bloodlust he is by placing me close to his fight with jormungandr.
Yeah, I was also underwhelmed. Like I want Jorm and Thor fight a little bit closer, causing landscape damages to the playable area. Just more Mountainous damages would be delightful.
@@erob9446 I agree 100% that would have been so cool to experience!
Yeah that was my biggest issue also. The whole invasion felt kind of useless. Most of it seemed like just a distraction for them to fight Thor then Odin. Jörmungandr shows up then just gets sent back in an instant and I wouldnt have had a problem with that if we got to see the action upclose. But it happened off in the background and it only took like 2 seconds. Surtr becoming Ragnarok was kind of pointless. I thought they would have used him to destroy the walls but he basically just stand in the background until after Odin is dead then decideds to destroy Asgard and then we lost Freyas brother. I know in mythology asgard is supposed to get destroyed and freyas brother was supposed to die but with how they did it I honestly dont see how things would have turned any different if Jörmungandr and Surtr just didnt show up at all.
From what im reading in the comments, i think that the giant serpent we see in the first game IS the OLDEST, AND THE ONE WE SEE IN RAGNAROK IS THE ONE THAT WAS RESURRECTED
You see both in Ragnarok the one at 5:40 is the one from 2018 to present and the one that shows up at Ragnarok final battle is the one that gets sent back in time fighting Thor the present one at 5:40 never left midgard it's still chillen there.
@@ragnarokpxn5196 so basically you are saying that there are two serpents, one in Midgard from the GOW 2018 and then one Loki is fighting is the one Atreus rescued in Ironwood back in time?
@@saadmir9795 yes the one fighting Thor at ragnarok is the Jormungandr Atreus puts the soul marble in that soulless snake it grows into Jormungandr then fights Thor and gets slung back in time to the 2018 Jormungandr that chills and stays in midgard so for a bit there are 2 Jormungandrs in God of War Ragnarok one in midgard and guessing the one shows up and fights Thor stayed in the Iron wood or jotunheim till it faces Thor and gets slung back in time to be the 2018 midgard Jormungandr which never leaves midgard.
@@saadmir9795 yep
Yes, it clearly is, kratos even acknowledges that he looks different
Gives new meaning to the phrase “punched into next week.”
more like “into last week”
The Jormungandr that Atreus resurrected is the one fighting Thor. Angrobodr even mentioned to Loki how “the snake we brought back to life is growing faster than normal”. My only question is, what’s then gonna happen to the new one sent back? Does that mean Odin, Thor, etc are still alive in the now new serpent time?
Yeah the new serpent sent back to 2018 gow so basically Thor & Odin were still alive according to 2018 gow timeline.
The Current Present Version of Him is Probably alive in this Time frame
Jormy was sent back a long time before 2018. By that time he was verry aged, and probably still lives even after Ragnorok, which means... more Jormy in the future??
How did it grow so fast ?
@@manojkumar-jt3fw Jormy magic giant
LMAOOOO Thor just casually fighting his Nephew
Jörmungandr is actually not Thor’s nephew but ok
@@disgustang1279probably used to the Marvel Version where Loki was Thor's brother, and I was too.
Not sure what would be their relation in actual mythology tho.
8:05 Jormungandr says "you will know"
This shows one thing, The Greek Gods can change themselves, make them big, more power but Norse Gods may not have that feature but there strength and speed is remarkable. The power of Thor and Baldur proves how strong Aesirs are.
The way that Jormungandr and Hraesvelgr speak is so cool
They wrote Kratos and Atreus into the original lore so well. Bravo 👏🏻
Ok so I guess it kinda works like this?
Ragnarock: Young Jormungandr is in Asgard and got sent back in time
2018: Sent back ages ago but became much older Jormungandr and met Loki and recognized him because Loki saved him.
Now, what's the most confusing part about this. If this is a paradox, where exactly is the older current Jormungandr at in Ragnarock? I assume the theory of having 2 of the Jormungandr is possible but I am guessing the older one did not want to get involved because it can affect the timeline.
The older danger noodle stayed in midgard
Huh? How did Atreus save him I don't understand was it that uh jormungandr was brought back to life when Atreus used the PokeBall looking thingy on a snake body?
the Older one is still in Midgard during Ragnarok, under the ice. It is a giant snake so the cold was probably not doing it any favours. I think it didn't get involved with Ragnarok becuase it knew how events would play out...I think?
The older and current Jormungandr is still at Midgard.
The only thing who got involved in the ragnarok is the Young Jormungandr that Angrboda brought from Jotunheim or known as a Giant Realm.
@@coolrock3733 danger noodle 😆
Ok. What I see it is this: the one we saw fighting Thor was the Young one because he has no seaweed on under his chin. So the current one is hibernating on Midgard.
This gave me shivers :) I already played till the scene when Atreus revives the snake, but I would never imagine that that's the Jormungander, amazing plot twist
Jormungandr has his grandfather's fighting spirit XD
That's the younger version that atreus gave birth to. The older ne is still in midgard.
YOUNG JORMUN: THOOOOOR!!!, I'VE COME FOR THE DAWN OF RAGNAROK!!!
OLD JORMUN (sleeping somewhere in Migard): did i left the stove on?
So theres two jorgumandur now
@@Nobodysurvivesevenonebit Not really.
Once upon a time loki put a giant soul in a snake. That one grows up into the younger version that fights thor at ragnarok. That one gets pushed through time and space backwards. That is the snake that is still in midgard to this day.
You can tell because the serpent in Asgard don't have the green seaweed beard.
@@TheFDream what?
Honestly my favorite part about Giant Snakes in any media is that animals like Snakes are a specific type of animal that continues growing in size through out their life time, which means in real life if there was a snake that couldn't die, it would hypothetically grow to be absolutely fucking massive since it would never stop growing with age.
Well I do find that amazing I hopefully we will never ever see that happen😭 imagine waking up and see a massive snake outside your window
@@demonqueen3886 cavemen had that problem with the titanoboa tbf
Except it would die under its own weight because gravity.
In Slavic Mythology if a snake lives over 100 years it grows wings and gets the power to breathe fire along with the control over weather and shapeshifting, and if it lives 900 more years it gets 9 heads and it's weather power gets stronger.
But it's not a dragon, apparently.
Hmmm…
Thor does not kill anyone with Mjionir's lightning strikes. He sends them back in time and they all decide, "fuck, I'm sitting this out and enjoy life somewhere far away from the Norselands"
Pretty sure that guys head that was smashed in by drunk Thor at the tavern was dead 😂
@@aj3k840 Emphasis on the lightning. Blunt force trauma is still a killer
I was actually really disappointed with their fight. I thought we were about to see a fully fleshed cinematic sequence of them slapping the crap out of eachother - But instead we just see this little lightning cloud buzzing around a big snake that keeps missing him. It's nice as a background but Jörmungandr's presence was sorely missed in this game.
Fenrir was one more addition that just felt like another missed opportunity. He just showed up, fought a little, then bounced. It's unfortunate since both of these giant children of Loki are supposed to represent just how powerful the Giants can be.
100% agreed, I thought the entire finale sequence was actually kind of lacklustre in terms of the spectacle we were used to from GOW 2018. Kind of disappointed in how it all ended really.
@@OhNoesItsDobby yes even the fight with Odin 😒
Yeah... And this ties to my only gripe in the entire game...the Ragnarok sequence was rushed. It could have been better (better final boss fights, fighting Surtr, etc.)
Yeah this game was really good but my main gripes are that Heimdall kill(so tame) and this epic moment of Thor sending a snake back in time somehow is just background dressing. (Not enough Thor period really)
Oh and also durlin. So he just set them up and no one cares?
@@OhNoesItsDobby I think they got that all planned, they really know how to shape and continue a story, we saw atreus taking his own path at the end and maining the focus of the giants, we will 100% see alot more in the next game
I loved the game, played for 3 weeks straight, but tbh I expected more for the climax, I thought it was too short for the so long waited Ragnarok and doom of Asgard
Same. Not gonna lie, the scene from the night before? Where Atreus comes to sleep with Kratos and he’s so afraid that Kratos had to tell him a bedtime story? That scene had *ME* scared of what was about to happen! And then, when Ragnarök actually begins, it’s like…well that’s disappointing
Loved this scene with Jormungandr.
The thumbnail made Thor look like a playable character lol
Dude I want a spinoff prequel where you play as Thor where he battles the giants that would be badass.
It seems like a failed experiment but the profecy held true, he would know what to do with the souls. Create one big ass snake and entrust the rest to another
I have a nearly 20-year old ball python I named Jormungandr (Ormund for short), and every time he surfaced in GoW and Ragnarok, I was fucking pumped. Now I just have to teach him that awesome language Jormungandr uses.
Jormungandr is much younger here compared to the one we meet in 2018 because hes traveling backwards in time.
We still don't know who blew the horn in first game, We didn't get any answers in this game either
I've read in one comment from other videos it was Kratos's horn when he started ragnarok. That horn was supposed to transcend time and space. Doesn't make sense ik. Maybe because i haven't seen a complete gameplay idk.
Also Athena didn’t appear as well
Big crow in hel also does fuck all , not sure why we didn't get to use mjolnir too, still don't really know what happened to giants. Green slit in reality doesn't get explained too
Can anyone else confirm but at 8:02 Jormungandr says "you'll be there" in response to Atreus asking what is ironwood
Sounds exactly like what he said to me.
Thats exactly what he said
Kratos: "We are running out of armies."
Like he didnt take down all of greece almost solo 😂
Well to be fair. Kratos did ask Titans help to fighting the Greece gods. But we all know he just to lazy climbing the Olympus Mount and use Titans as a ride and to show the gods he is a real threat
@@hijikili2656 true that Uber really came in clutch 😂
Did you even play the original games? Kratos didn't do shit by himself. He always had Athena, the titans, Hope and for some time even Olympus.
Without that, Kratos would have died against Ares and begone.
Loki: Ironwood? WHAT'S IRONWOOD?!
Jormungandr: You will learn.
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Finally someone posted this, I love Jormungand.. sad that he will live in a full loop, destined to fight with Thor and send back in time, again and again.. but Jormungand is stylous
There are 2 jormungandur the one we know is still in Midgard
The one that got sent back in time was the one that Atreus gave the soul to. That’s how he knew Atreus already. The one we meet in the first game is that same serpent but fully grown. He’s still in Midgard living happily as ever considering Thor is gone 😂
@@brandonharden9353 so the Jormungand that Thor send back in time is the old or yound version of him?
@@Outsider00 young
@@Outsider00 Young version
It got to Asgard because Angrboda
I love the time travel thing they did with this, so cool.
This background fight was so hype to watch for no reason.
I just realized: If Thor has weird time travel powers if he gives it his all, does this mean Faye time traveled too except in the distance future when she fought him? Cause there’s an easter egg in 2018 where that references Carol King’s “You’ve Got A Friend” which is mentioned by Atreus that Faye used to sing that and it’s a song from the modern era.
The final battle disappointed me greatly. A Thunder God that sent The World Serpent back in time with a smack of his hammer and we kill him as easy as his sons. Wtf!
Final fight was epic. Fights don’t have to be hard to be awesome
To be fair, smacking Jormungandr that hard and also having to fight Surtr must’ve taken a lot out of him so he wasn’t at his best.
@@matthewriley7826 also Thor was drunk. Despite this he still unleashed his fury for a great fight in my opinion
Also its Kratos, THE God of War, he OPs anyone. He destroyed the greek gods, these gods should be nothing to him!
@@mrsandhu1215 It was the opposite of epic. Gone are the amazing set pieces God of War is known for, instead the culmination of an entire mythology ended with its 2 major boss fights taking place outside of the same lame cabin. It stunk.
Bro imagine how the giant felt like: 'huh I'm a snake, guess I'll slither along...'
Wow. This blew my mind. I love how they pieced everything together so seamlessly.
When I saw Atreus give that Snake the ball I didn’t pay it any mind, just thought oh wow he revived it.
Now that this video came out and is pieced the way it is, I’m like holy shit that was a very young Jormingandr!!! Just Wow. This game was a damn beautiful experience, just like Red Dead II
he's not in a loop. Baby jorm is the one hit. Big jorm is still in Midgard. Hence why mimir says "he didn't follow us from Midgard"
He was such a big piece of the first game and now he gets a cameo, a 2 dimensional background fight that he loses, and some lore. A lot of things disappointed me about this game, and a few of them were fairly egregious, but the lack of payoff concerning the world serpent really stuck in my craw.
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jorm is still in midgard
the snake we saw in asgard was a differnt jormang
The part where big snake(don't feel like spelling the name) gets sent back in time, I need someone to edit the Calebcity death sound effect over it
Fun fact: In Norse Mythology at the battle of Ragnarok Thor fights Jormungandr one last time and crushes the serpents skull soon after Thor dies due to the toxic breath left behind by jormungandr. Also instead of Thor's daughter becoming the new user of Mjolnir it's Magni and Modi
Looking at the World Serpent and Thor duking it out in the distance is so fascinating, it's actually how I pictured it when I read the story of the Ragnarok prophecy. Thor and The World Serpent fighting and ending up killing both each other (in this game it didn't end up that way)
Yeah in the original Mythology, Thor beats the World Serpent and by killing it, toxic gasses come out of the snakes body and Thor dies
If only we had Garm fight Tyr
I didn't realize before how thor's hands completely wrap around kratos head
Two snakes and all that but damm that hit of thors hammer actually send it back in time like the story mimir said in 2018. Took me by surprise when fighting and then just saw hit* and disappeared
This is a perfect example of why I wish they should have used the cinematic cutscenes and such like the original games instead of just one constant camera shot. It’d be way more impactful if we could see Thor and Jormy actually fighting up close. Still amazing game nonetheless
I was expecting him to spray Eitr directly at Thor.
Glad to see Kratos in his elemen, as a general in a war
I just noticed that when they put the soul into the snake, it makes the same sound as andvari's ring with the soul in it
So awesome!
in the mythological story it is also told that JORMUNGANDR died in the hands of THOR and THOR died because of the deadly poison of JORMUNGANDR.
Thor is so badass in this game! my favorite depiction of him in anything ive seen tbh.
How he casually says "we are running out of armies" imagine fighting alongside multiple armies😭
well giving that each aesir + valkiries are like a single army each and they also control the resurrected best warriors of all realms, no wonder they thought that multiple realm armies was not enough
@@albe8479 not to mention that einherjar come back from Valhalla as soon as you kill them cause they died a warriors death.
A very unstoppable army.
Literally any war where a country has at least one ally
I don't even have a ps5, haven't played God of War since ps2, but damn I watch these clips like it's a series lol they snapped on this game fr.
The majority of the Ragnarok battle was underwhelming, except for the Thor fight, that was fire. But yeah, this battle should've been more exciting and cinematic. Maybe if they cut back on the Ironwood sequence, they could've pumped some more money into this instead lmao.
I totally missed that last hit
Seems like the World Serpent is the ungrateful child, not like good boi Fenrir. He likes to ignore Loki, the small one after revived and the old one in the snow. Though he still helps Loki in many, many ways. So technically he's a good boi too
I don’t know how big younger Jormungandr is compared to the present one in Midgard. Perhaps still somewhat smaller than the older Jormie, but pausing at 1:13, Surtr’s hand looks big enough to even clutch his head or neck! I could be crazy and wrong but who knows if Surtr in that form is that much bigger than the dead giant Thamur, the dead Giants in Jotunheim, and the Titans from Greece?
So there's 3 Jormungandr?
Jormungandr battling Thor in Ragnarok - sent back in time before his birth
Jormungandr in Iron Wood - young serpent existing while the battle of Ragnarok is happening and Odin got defeated
Jormungandr in Midgard GOW 2018 - just chillin' in Midgard
No. They're all the same Jormungandr.
The small snake is given a Jotun soul, creating Jormungandr, who grows abnormally fast as stated by Angarboda.
This snake grows fast enough to be the Jormungamdr that fights Thor and is sent back in time to pre GoW 2018. He grows older in the lake for years.
There is no time loop and no duplicates.
@@WarCriminal2002 there are duplicates, the older Jormungandr is still chilling in midgard, there are 2 snakes
@@tommasopisapia7464 Nope, 1 snake displaced in time. Same being, different placement in the timeline. Would be a different snake if it was a clone, but it's the literal EXACT same Jormungandr
To my knowledge, this is what happened:
Atreus and Angrboda put that one giant's soul into some random snake in Jötunheim, then that snake grew up to be the young Jörmungandr we see here, who then got sent back in time and continued growing, then became the bearded one we see on GOW 2018.
How’d it change colors though?
The god of war 3 i remember like this while climbing the mountains with all titans.
Now you know why the Serpernt said Ironwood, so that Loki can go their an give him the Soul to start his history in the present time.
This is easily the most confusing part of the game and the only thing I didn’t understand, but after reading multiple different explanations I’ve thought of a way for it to make sense to me: The Jörmie from 2018 is the older Jörmie. He tells Atreus to go to Ironwood where Atreus then puts the OG Giant Jörmie’s soul into that dead snake with Angrboda. Now that snake (now AKA young Jörmie) SOMEHOW grows to become enormous in such a short time and SOMEHOW makes it to Asgard for Ragnarök. Those part are poorly explained, but regardless, he fights Thor and is sent back in time and dropped off in Midgard at some point long before meeting Kratos and Atreus in 2018 (because everyone was fully aware of Jörmungandr the World Serpent for a long time up until that point, so he had to been there for hundreds if not thousands of years). Now I think at this point the Giant Jörmungandr was already born in Jotunheim and may be a kid or a man or IDK, but there is only one World Serpent existing concurrently, but two Jörmies: the regular Giant in Jotunheim (either in the soul hibernation form or in physical form) and the World Serpent that was sent back in time by Thor. The one sent back by Thor ages to become the one we met in 2018 and proceeds to repeat the cycle. He probably knows this and is intentionally sending Loki back to Asgard to continue the loop, because otherwise he may not exist.
how is it poorly explained? He got a sould put in its body and he starts growing big really fast. Angrboda makes a comment on it at some part of the story as well she says the snake you put the soul got really big. After they sound the gallahorn all of the realms gets connected to each other. So hearing the gallahorn for ragnarok snake comes to fight to asgard from Jotunheim. Old one is still in the midgard and is chilling like you said. Mimir comments on it by saying but he didn't come with us from midgard. Fights thor gets send back in time(really back like you said) when he meets atreus again he seems familiar but can't figure it out because 1 atreus is younger than he has ever seen 2 it has been many many years ago that he has seen him last(when he got his soul put in that snake)
Jormungandr has a long ass green beard, this one has only few
1:05 why did he say Tower like that though 🤣I laughed so hard in the most possible serious moment while playing the game
The one in midgard literally has a beard, so you could even see the difference between the one fighting Thor and the other one.
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Aw...so Jormungandr wasn't Loki's son, there goes my "Dad, Granddad" joke.
I just got to this part tonight
Masterful stuff.
It's crazy to think that Thor, the man who can kill Kratos and revive him because he wanted to see more, is struggling against Jörmungander, while Baldur knocked him out with only 3 punches. That's really fucking cool.
To be fair Jormungandr had Kratos and friends in his belly at the time so he wasn’t able to fight back.
what are you talkin bout, Thor hit him a total of 2 times on this video. Each hit was a KO, last one sending him back in time. dont think baldur could do that
He'd ko'd Kratos. He didn't kill him
@@jalenjordan6837 He did kill him.
The screen only goes black if your character dies.
@@aviniciussouza100 that logic isn't enough to say he died
At best he knocked him out
It wasn't a full loop.
There are the young and old one. But eventually they exist in same timeline. So you can feel sorry for the young one, but the old one still vibing like usual...
So... The young one stuck in a time loop, while the old one just vibing in Midgard?
@@azrielbenaya2866 no. The old one has to come from somewhere. The young one has to grow old. There is no loop.
So basically the snake that is a new born snake that Atreus woke up and then showed up to fight Thor after he got a shot to the noggin he went back in time right and in 2018 that snake was old retire and beat up then when he showed up in 2018 was him after the fight and since lil atm was younger he said he look familiar
There is also a scene where Angrabodr says the snake is growing at an alarming rate
The music and Atreus lines arent an accident. They are all related. The fact that the serpant has the soul of a giant makes me wonder why he did what he did in the end.
It's explained later on that Atreus managed to pick a giant that had a grudge against Thor
A lot of people are confused (and so was I even reading through the comments) But this is my Understanding....
Jorm A is a baby in the realm of giants, was saved by Atreus by adding a giant soul and slithers away.
Jorm A fights Thor and sent back in time. Jorm A is now chillin in Midguard.
Jorm A is awoken by horn in 2018 game, remembering the fight, bits Thor's statue. 2018 game goes on.
Jorm A is awoken by Atreus and tells him about Iron-wood. Goes back to sleep.
Jorm B is a baby in the realm of giants, was saved by Atreus by adding a giant soul and slithers away.
Cycle continues...
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His back! The world serpent is back!
I feel like there was going to be a time-loop plot that they must have changed, there was a tonne of time-related references in the first game, and even the logo of the game is the GoW sign turned into a loop.
Pretty sure this serpent is the one Atreus saves in ironwood
Finally, someone who could understand the shenanigans Kratos went through back in Greek.
Hell yeah 💯
awesome
Poor jormungandr 🤣🤣
He’s fine he’s just sent back in the time to before GOW 4
Poor Jorm. Forever stuck in a loop
No he’s not the old one from the 2018 game is still alive in midgard. The loop ends if it were a never ending loop it would be the same exact snake being sent back in time over and over
I'm glad I'm able to experience the game this way, even if I'm not able to play myself.
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the cycle is
atreus back to ironwood and found a dead snake then he revived the snake with angrboda's grandma stolen giant soul -> the snake is growing turned to be world serpent/jormungadr -> ragnarok starts, jormungadr vs thor -> thor sent jormungadr to past-> jormungadr become older -> kratos and atreus awake jormungadr -> jormungadr ate thor statue -> return to slumber on midgard after kratos vs baldur -> atreus and sindri meet jormungadr for asking about loki -> jormungadr hint ironwood, then they return to ironwood -> repeat the cycle
The older one got beat by Baldur with a few blows cause it was weakened by the battle with Thor
This one is fresh
That older one was there in midgard from past 100 winters,
The serpent didn’t wants to hurt Kratos & Atreus so he doesn’t fight back with Baldur.
I blinked, what happened? Kinda sad that this was all they did with having a massive titanic snake fighting Thor. Remember when we fought Poseidon on top of Gaea? What a massive wasted opportunity.
Gaia.
If you look deeper you can see a gaint hand right after jormungander dissaper
Thor literally punched the snake into last millennium, now that is legendary strength in action.