But it's also 100 dollars on their website.. You can get a much better keyboard for that.. I like the Thinkpad trackpad on my laptop but I'm not paying 100 for a 2nd.
@@kunaalchand109 FYI, it would be possible to switch the ctrl and fn buttons in an app called Lenovo Vantage, if it happens that you are using a Lenovo laptop or PC. :D
My Neighbour had a Think Pad Back in 2005-2006; as a kid, I was so fascinated every time I used it, These are Memories, looking forward to getting this keyboard!
@@Lenovo There is tremendous wish for a full size keyboard, a 100%, not even 96%...Please make it happen, look at the comments. We want a full keyboard with trackpoint please!!!!
I have it for a while now. It is honestly fantastic, for couple of reasons. The type feel is obviously amazing, I never had a thinkpad so i cant compare, but i do have a macbook m2 and i like these keys a lot better than those on a mac. Connectivity never failed me, it is consistent and very fast to connect. the battery life is amazing, i charge it only every month or so, i honestly dont even know because it is so unobstrusive (you can still use it while it charges). It is very slim, so it fits in a small bag with a table perfectly, it always accompanies me wherever i go. The trackpoint is on a stiffer side, it tires me a little bit, but it is not a huge issue. occasional drift that the trackpoint gets (it happened a couple of time to me) can be instantly fixed by a reset. the fact that this is both mouse and keyboard makes this device so so amazing to carry with you. you can use it with your phone or tablet if you need a better input in a pinch. I can honestly only recommand this. it performes its job with flying colors and as a keyboard enthusiast i never found such a complete and convenient package before. 5/5 stars
I have the first gen Thinkpad Bluetooth Keyboard KT-1255 and I love it for general web browsing and CAD. Recently, I started coding, and the TrackPoint performance on it felt like a generic Synaptics you would find on an HP or Dell. It felt disconnected from my true intention. I then dusted off my much older Thinkpad USB keyboard SK-8855 and wow! This is a true Thinkpad experience. The keys felt bigger and my fingers slipped into home position instantly. Also, the trackpoint experience was more in tuned with my intentions, it had much more precision. I think the driver for this older USB keyboard were written in house by Lenovo, not contracted out to Synaptics. USB powered SK-8855 has more precision and bigger feeling keys with correct amount of key spring rate where I can rest my fingers and the keys stay up. Bluetooth KT-1255 keys feel really small and light springs. The weight of my fingers resting on the home keys often register a key press. Very annoying having to delete these unintended key presses.
@@WaffleusRex I have the original Tex Yoda that I bought on Massdrop about 6 years ago. It's been a fantastic keyboard. TEX released the Yoda II which can still be found at some mechanical keyboard stores online. I now have a Shinobi on pre-order and it looks like they're set to ship in the next couple weeks.
Try looking up Dell KM717, it is amazeballs. I use it both at work and at home. Best keyboard I ever used, it beats the Thinkpad carbon, and is full sized.
Great product. I've been using it for 1 year now. The only downside is the "print screen" system key... I would have liked to have been able to remap it to another Super/Windows key.
This is one of those things no one asked for, but have seen it and now really want it. How the friggin hell do I get my hands on this pure finger goodness
Really nice, just if I could understand, why they not put backlight in, easily would fit there. Rather have 1 month or 2 week battery life, but have backlight.
You can order it now in some online-shops. (like here at cyberport, but first charges are out of stock already) www.cyberport.de/pc-und-zubehoer/eingabegeraete/tastaturen/lenovo/pdp/4n31-007/lenovo-thinkpad-trackpoint-tastatur-ii-4y40x49507-.html
I'm not exactly sure why but this video sold me. I really want to get this keyboard over any of those over-hyped and over-priced mechanical gaming keyboard.
We're happy to hear that! You can find more information about the ThinkPad TrackPoint Keyboard II here: lnv.gy/2Lrd1Re. Please let us know if you have any questions!
Returned previous model and switched to MX Keys. No numerical keyboard, no option to swap Ctrl / FN keys, no back lighting. Also, they keys feel somewhat little worse to those in T440p laptop. Slightly less resistance and feedback.
Buckling sounds cool, but I bought a UniComp keyboard with their own take on the trackpoint, but it was disappointing. The buckling keys were fun to type, but it was slow to register keys on the screen.
I have to answer my question myself. So I have sk-8855, tex shinobi and today I got this keyboard. Please don't waste your money on others and just get this. What a hype. I spent well enough to experience them all and I concluded to stick with the newest tech.
Thinkpad user here ,such a great keyboard but no backlit man kinda deal breaker for me please ,if that possible include one in next iteration. Greetings.
Now give us back the proper 7 row. Its absurd that I have to order parts from a special edition laptop, cut up my chassis, and flash my EC just to have a decent keyboard on my T480.
As a t480 owner and previously the owner of an x230, a thinkpad pad Yoga 12, and two t440's, the default keyboard is just as good as any think pad I've used and better than any other laptop outside of the thinkpad line
I bought a normal lenovo keyboard with Trackpad half a year ago, and after one months the ENTER, SPACE, and BACKSPACE key stopped working. It was after a windows update, so I assume its a software bug - many people had the same problem. I tried to speak with the customer service, but oh man! After 10 emails, and many calls, I finally gave up.
i have the previous version which is not usable because the trackpoint acts whenever it wants. From the manual: Problem: The TrackPoint cursor drifts when the computer is turned on or after the computer resumes normal operation. Solution: The cursor might drift when you are not using the TrackPoint during normal operation. This is a normal feature of the TrackPoint and is not a defect. ... right ... using Thinkpad laptops for over 15 years and never had the problem but for the external keyboard it is normal.
Had the old one, but its done after 3 years now (daily professional use, so it's ok). Now I want to give the new one a try! But there is no information when it will be available (qwertz german layout) :-/
Why would I buy this instead of proper mechanical keyboard? Not saying Thinkpad keyboards are any bad... but are they better than proper Cherry switches?
Scroll wheel. Here's my two suggestions. 1) Make the middle button a touch sensitive scroll wheel. ie just brushing your finger over the top (or sideways). Program intertial scrolling (flick, grab stop). 2) Make the trackpoint itself touch capable. So sweeping across it does the same. 3) I've actually made the capslock key a 'scroll wheel' so when I hold it down I use the trackpoint to scroll at variable speeds. It's the best scroll wheel I've ever had.
So, I already ordered two of these back in may (should be shipped on July 2!) and can't wait for them to replace my bluetooth and wired versions of it! The wired version is suffering from the standard micro usb plug issues :'( I'm sure I will love them and be really happy with them being replacements but there's two things I think that could be improved with it (at least from all the things I've read online). 1. Allow for wired connection via the USB C port 2. Backlit keys like the normal laptops! Honestly, going to check with one of them if it will be relatively easy to open one up and see how it's setup. I doubt it but it would be awesome if I could swap out the keyboard like you can with normal thinkpad laptops! I will be much happier with backlit keys (well, the default of off and fn+spacebar for the two levels as needed) and reduced battery life!
If the middle button were a scroll wheel this would have been perfect. The nipple is great for typing-focused users except for the lack of easy scrolling.
I use both Windows and iPadOS for work. If this worked with iPadOS, Lenovo would have another sale. Sadly, I’ll need to look elsewhere, probably Logitech, for a more flexible solution. Hopefully, there will be a firmware update to make this compatible with iPadOS in the future, but I doubt it, particularly since the OS switching is tied to a physical switch. Maybe Logitech will do it right for version 3 of this product by supporting iPadOS and iOS.
Hi there, thanks for your message. Yes, the ThinkPad TrackPoint Keyboard II will be recognised as a USB HID generic device by the Linux OS. Best wishes Joe
Man... didn't know I wanted this.
Same
Me neither
Aakash Mandava now if only they add a numpad on the side
But it's also 100 dollars on their website.. You can get a much better keyboard for that.. I like the Thinkpad trackpad on my laptop but I'm not paying 100 for a 2nd.
good to know im not alone.
The best keyboard ever on a laptop now comes in a portable product
The ctrl and fn button placement are the only things that annoys me :/
This is another release of the same keyboard plus a few extra features. It already arrived quite some time ago.
@@kunaalchand109 FYI, it would be possible to switch the ctrl and fn buttons in an app called Lenovo Vantage, if it happens that you are using a Lenovo laptop or PC. :D
Louie LEE I think you can download that on non Lenovo PCs too
@@andrew_7_155 oh really? I thought it was exclusive... Thanks for the info btw!
My Neighbour had a Think Pad Back in 2005-2006; as a kid, I was so fascinated every time I used it, These are Memories, looking forward to getting this keyboard!
Sounds like your neighbor had the right idea!
@@Lenovo 😁👌
@@Lenovo There is tremendous wish for a full size keyboard, a 100%, not even 96%...Please make it happen, look at the comments. We want a full keyboard with trackpoint please!!!!
Please add a version with a numeric keypad for those of us who do spreadsheet work.
This would definitely be a hit with those office geeks indeed!
@Zelda Morningstar plot twist of the century
Or just release a standalone numpad
They *did the ultranav. An updated version would be great
I hope so. I work in excel a lot so I waiting for number keypad
Typed on it a few times in the 90s and never forgot the feeling of it, finally bought one today exited to catch those feelings again.
I have it for a while now. It is honestly fantastic, for couple of reasons. The type feel is obviously amazing, I never had a thinkpad so i cant compare, but i do have a macbook m2 and i like these keys a lot better than those on a mac. Connectivity never failed me, it is consistent and very fast to connect. the battery life is amazing, i charge it only every month or so, i honestly dont even know because it is so unobstrusive (you can still use it while it charges). It is very slim, so it fits in a small bag with a table perfectly, it always accompanies me wherever i go. The trackpoint is on a stiffer side, it tires me a little bit, but it is not a huge issue. occasional drift that the trackpoint gets (it happened a couple of time to me) can be instantly fixed by a reset. the fact that this is both mouse and keyboard makes this device so so amazing to carry with you. you can use it with your phone or tablet if you need a better input in a pinch. I can honestly only recommand this. it performes its job with flying colors and as a keyboard enthusiast i never found such a complete and convenient package before. 5/5 stars
I have the first gen Thinkpad Bluetooth Keyboard KT-1255 and I love it for general web browsing and CAD. Recently, I started coding, and the TrackPoint performance on it felt like a generic Synaptics you would find on an HP or Dell. It felt disconnected from my true intention.
I then dusted off my much older Thinkpad USB keyboard SK-8855 and wow! This is a true Thinkpad experience. The keys felt bigger and my fingers slipped into home position instantly. Also, the trackpoint experience was more in tuned with my intentions, it had much more precision. I think the driver for this older USB keyboard were written in house by Lenovo, not contracted out to Synaptics.
USB powered SK-8855 has more precision and bigger feeling keys with correct amount of key spring rate where I can rest my fingers and the keys stay up.
Bluetooth KT-1255 keys feel really small and light springs. The weight of my fingers resting on the home keys often register a key press. Very annoying having to delete these unintended key presses.
I agree. I still use my sk8835 full size and have bought any local ones as spares because I get the bad feeling it'll never be bettered
The keyboard is also flimsy plastic and flexes, it lacks the solidity and stability of the keyboard installed in a laptop.
would be great if there is a full sized desktop keyboard like that with the same feel as a typing on a thinkpad.
there is.. *was.. its callled the SK-8835. just waiting for it to be resurrected.
There's also the Tex Shinobi, a mechanical keyboard with the layout of the T410.
@@WaffleusRex I have the original Tex Yoda that I bought on Massdrop about 6 years ago. It's been a fantastic keyboard. TEX released the Yoda II which can still be found at some mechanical keyboard stores online. I now have a Shinobi on pre-order and it looks like they're set to ship in the next couple weeks.
They're too busy trying to be Apple, while all of us want them to be ThinkPad...
Try looking up Dell KM717, it is amazeballs. I use it both at work and at home. Best keyboard I ever used, it beats the Thinkpad carbon, and is full sized.
If it was back lit, that would be AWESOME!
No, because you have to sacrifice PBT plastic to let the light pass through, but ABS (the type of plastic used for backlight)is not as good
@@antonioio95 It's lenovo they can find ways to make it work. All these companies can if they are willing to.
@@videowatcher495 no, it's physically impossible, it's in the nature of the plastic
@@antonioio95 Ever heard of dual shot keycaps?...
@@valamilamasag Yes, double shot. ABS, non PBT
The production quality of this video though!! 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼 Makes me want to buy it
Great product. I've been using it for 1 year now. The only downside is the "print screen" system key... I would have liked to have been able to remap it to another Super/Windows key.
A good update to the older model
Very nice IBM had something similar that was for server racks many years ago it's like a modern refresh
Finally Lenovo!!! After so many years... What about the Function and Ctrl keys? Can they be swapped?
It's only available in the US store and that doesn't ship in the U.K. I want to buy it asap. When will it be available in Europe?
This is one of those things no one asked for, but have seen it and now really want it. How the friggin hell do I get my hands on this pure finger goodness
I have been wanting a thinkpad and not buying one because of the price, but this can easily one of the better keyboard for iPad and laptop
Nice button
Lenovo, as usual takes us one step back
This looks awesome.
Would that be compatible with Ubuntu?
Lenovo just made the coolest product ever
Mac/iPad OS version of this would be neat to try.
Well at least the wired version of this work great on a mac
Really nice, just if I could understand, why they not put backlight in, easily would fit there. Rather have 1 month or 2 week battery life, but have backlight.
0:46 the tablet on the right seems to be running Windows 10X UI
Ohh yeah
It is! 😮
U are right
Ah yes, the only 2 operating systems in the world, Windows and Android
Nick Shvelidze select Windows for Linux
A55tech And Windows should work for iPadOS too.
Windows is terrible and Android is unreliable
@@herohour6496 that probably just means user is tech-illiterate
@@herohour6496 though agreed that Android sux, it's because Java makes it DOA.
Oh lenovo you just made it. An almost perfect Office laptop. I wish there was a Metal or Aluminium version of the thinkpad but still great.
When will this Keyboard finally be available in Europe/Germany ? It was supposed to be available in May, now it's July and still no availability.
You can order it now in some online-shops. (like here at cyberport, but first charges are out of stock already) www.cyberport.de/pc-und-zubehoer/eingabegeraete/tastaturen/lenovo/pdp/4n31-007/lenovo-thinkpad-trackpoint-tastatur-ii-4y40x49507-.html
@@tanis64 Thanks for the reply! Fortunately I ordered mine a few days ago at Cyberport and got it already 👍🏻
@@Merkier3456 I ordered mine a few weeks ago, it was deliverd today, also from cyberport.
Fn - CTRL swap is a must, maybe firmware update to do that?
PLEASE add the numeric keyboard on the right, that is really all there is to make this the perfect keyboard.
Nice looking keyboard but what about ergonomics ?
Been using the Trackpoint keyboard I for years and swear by it. Please make a mechanical keyboard with trackpoint!
I'm not exactly sure why but this video sold me. I really want to get this keyboard over any of those over-hyped and over-priced mechanical gaming keyboard.
We're happy to hear that! You can find more information about the ThinkPad TrackPoint Keyboard II here: lnv.gy/2Lrd1Re. Please let us know if you have any questions!
Imagine if they made a laptop with this in it
They shady do.. I think it’s called a Thinkpad..
They did ,have you ever heard of Thinkpad x1 carbon extreme
A moment of silence for the people who don't get sarcasm...
@@TinoPetersson It will be hopefully repaired in next patch
that's not possible this keyboard is wireless, or if you mean thinkpad laptop
Returned previous model and switched to MX Keys. No numerical keyboard, no option to swap Ctrl / FN keys, no back lighting. Also, they keys feel somewhat little worse to those in T440p laptop. Slightly less resistance and feedback.
Lenovo, we desperately need an IBM Model M 13 maybe with Cherry Mx considering that you don't have the copyrights for buckling springs
Buckling sounds cool, but I bought a UniComp keyboard with their own take on the trackpoint, but it was disappointing. The buckling keys were fun to type, but it was slow to register keys on the screen.
a full cherry mx switch setup would probably not allow the track point to be included. Maybe the low profile ones.
Just google "Unicomp".
for cherry mx switches, the closest we have is tex yoda
See The Beauty of the Thinkpad!!!
They have only mentioned android and windows but if it will work on my ipad air 3 i am definitely gonna buy this one
I have to answer my question myself. So I have sk-8855, tex shinobi and today I got this keyboard. Please don't waste your money on others and just get this. What a hype. I spent well enough to experience them all and I concluded to stick with the newest tech.
Thinkpad user here ,such a great keyboard but no backlit man kinda deal breaker for me please ,if that possible include one in next iteration.
Greetings.
Unpopular opinion: I love the position of the fn key and ctrl key.
Fight me but don’t @ me.
YES FINALLY SOMEONE I AGREE WITH!! People call me crazy but I can only use keyboards with the Ctrl key offset to the right of the bottom left corner.
Trying to imagine your palm and fingers hitting Ctrl+A/S/Z...
It may be pleasurable, of course, and that case is called masochism (no offense)
I got the first version in 2015. Now I want this too. Take me money Lenovo!
Swap fn with ctrl or at least give us a chance to make it from software level...
I just noticed that, that's indeed stupid
*At a hardware level, I doubt they will create a mapping companion app for every single platforms.
own a lenovo e595 - you can swap those either in BIOS, either by lenovo software in windows. what is your problem?
Захарченко Станислав doesn't work for this, BIOS setting doesn't control the Bluetooth keyboard.
Ah the Fn key, the great Thinkpad debate.
Joe “I love my ThinkPad for writing bits” Rogan
Not available on Lenovo website. Where can i buy it from ?
@@piyushppatil www.lenovo.com/us/en/accessories-and-monitors/new-arrivals/KBD-BO-TrackPoint-KBD-US-Eng/p/4Y40X49493
did he really say that lol
what episode
@@windows.95 he did. I don't remember, but I believe it was Marques "MKBHD Brownlee" JRE.
I want to like this comment but it's on 69
Now give us back the proper 7 row.
Its absurd that I have to order parts from a special edition laptop, cut up my chassis, and flash my EC just to have a decent keyboard on my T480.
You don't have to. The default keyboard is great.
As a t480 owner and previously the owner of an x230, a thinkpad pad Yoga 12, and two t440's, the default keyboard is just as good as any think pad I've used and better than any other laptop outside of the thinkpad line
Please bring back the old Thinkpad X201/T420 style TrackPoint keyboard with a cable.
The keyboard you're looking for, is the tex shinobi: a 7-row thinkpad style mechanical keyboard
Finally!! The first gen USB model was great, but now Bluetooth too? And android support? Sweet. Thanks Lenovo!
Trackpoints are awesome and I wish they were standard. I miss them in my laptops.
loved it. Good quality? Why not with the Super button?
any plans to add fingerprint scanner there?
Is this better than a cherry/outemu blue mechanical keyboard?
Support Windows, Android... Have you thought about adding macOS or iOS support?
Is spanish layout version coming soon?
Will this work with 2020 12.9" iPad Pro?
grew up with these boards on my laptops can't wait to get one!
Have the wired and wireless version of the 1.0 the nano receiver is CLUTCH.
Can you still change the Ctrl and Fn keys around?
When does it come to Germany with QWERTZ?
Is it really wireless *only*? All the complexity to support USB-C charging and it doesn't actually *work* over USB?
how had no one thought of it before? simply great
I think it is time to make number III but please, I beg you make it with the 7 row layout
absolute must in a thinkpad collection. Already ordered one and gonna order 2 more :-)
We've got a collector on our hands! Happy to hear you're enjoying it ☺ What else do you have in your ThinkPad collection?
@@Lenovo Thinkpad X250 + docking station. Saving for a E14 with AMD ryzen
Any news as to when this is going to be available in regional market? I'll be looking to get an AZERTY variant.
no back light... again... and again....
I bought a normal lenovo keyboard with Trackpad half a year ago, and after one months the ENTER, SPACE, and BACKSPACE key stopped working. It was after a windows update, so I assume its a software bug - many people had the same problem.
I tried to speak with the customer service, but oh man! After 10 emails, and many calls, I finally gave up.
make one with the keyboard of the older thinkpads like the T60
Is it waterproof?
i have the previous version which is not usable because the trackpoint acts whenever it wants. From the manual: Problem: The TrackPoint cursor drifts when the computer is turned on or after the computer resumes normal
operation.
Solution: The cursor might drift when you are not using the TrackPoint during normal operation. This is a
normal feature of the TrackPoint and is not a defect. ... right ... using Thinkpad laptops for over 15 years and never had the problem but for the external keyboard it is normal.
will it be launched in India ?
Can you please update the software so I can swap the Fn and Crtl keys?
I've never used a thinkpad but I've always heard of the reputation of the keyboard. Is it that good?
No its not.
A 7 row keyboard is good (i.stack.imgur.com/dlNc7.jpg) the new one shown in the video is absolute garbage.
I just love the keyboard on our ThinkPad and now I love this keyboard.
Does the Fn key register on the computer as a keypress on it's own? This wasn't the case with the old Compact USB keyboard
Is it ok for gamers? Can you invert joystick movements?
Also I use Calculator app would be great to get additional USB numeric keyboard!!!
Any difference in typing experience from 1st Gen wired USB?
Someone needs to review this., I think this might be the best keyboard in the market.
Will it work with Linux? Have you already tried to connect it with Linux based OS? Thank you.
when will be german layout available?
Had the old one, but its done after 3 years now (daily professional use, so it's ok). Now I want to give the new one a try! But there is no information when it will be available (qwertz german layout) :-/
Hopefully the switches used are better than the first version.
Where can I buy this being in India? What about compatibility with GNU/Linux and BSDs?
Looks great!
Now how about an update to the ThinkVision LT1423?
Why would I buy this instead of proper mechanical keyboard? Not saying Thinkpad keyboards are any bad... but are they better than proper Cherry switches?
Scroll wheel. Here's my two suggestions.
1) Make the middle button a touch sensitive scroll wheel. ie just brushing your finger over the top (or sideways). Program intertial scrolling (flick, grab stop).
2) Make the trackpoint itself touch capable. So sweeping across it does the same.
3) I've actually made the capslock key a 'scroll wheel' so when I hold it down I use the trackpoint to scroll at variable speeds. It's the best scroll wheel I've ever had.
Tre trackpoint is meant to function as a scrool wheel when you are pressing the middle button
I hope this keyboard was fixed. The wires versions was plagued with broken usb ports that would stop functioning after a year.
This keyboard support linux distros?
So, I already ordered two of these back in may (should be shipped on July 2!) and can't wait for them to replace my bluetooth and wired versions of it! The wired version is suffering from the standard micro usb plug issues :'(
I'm sure I will love them and be really happy with them being replacements but there's two things I think that could be improved with it (at least from all the things I've read online).
1. Allow for wired connection via the USB C port
2. Backlit keys like the normal laptops!
Honestly, going to check with one of them if it will be relatively easy to open one up and see how it's setup. I doubt it but it would be awesome if I could swap out the keyboard like you can with normal thinkpad laptops! I will be much happier with backlit keys (well, the default of off and fn+spacebar for the two levels as needed) and reduced battery life!
If the middle button were a scroll wheel this would have been perfect. The nipple is great for typing-focused users except for the lack of easy scrolling.
Can I use with my iPad?
It's an amazing keyboard 😍
Could you please create a version with the Russian layout as well?
Do the keys make clicking sounds? I need a QUIET light touch keyboard.
Does this product supports Mac OS system?
Nice, looking forward to one with numeric keys integrated though.
Water proof?
This keyboard doesn't come with backlit right?
A mobile version offering just the same feeling of that Model M would be very nice...
I use both Windows and iPadOS for work. If this worked with iPadOS, Lenovo would have another sale. Sadly, I’ll need to look elsewhere, probably Logitech, for a more flexible solution. Hopefully, there will be a firmware update to make this compatible with iPadOS in the future, but I doubt it, particularly since the OS switching is tied to a physical switch. Maybe Logitech will do it right for version 3 of this product by supporting iPadOS and iOS.
It mentions Windows and Android, but does it work with an IPad too?
same question
If only there was a similar keyboard with a oldschool 7-Row keyboard.
Yep... Still holding onto my X220
Just gonna leave this here: tex.com.tw/products/shinobi?variant=16969883648090
www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=SK-8845
Very attractive. Does this keyboard work on Linux ?
Hi there, thanks for your message. Yes, the ThinkPad TrackPoint Keyboard II will be recognised as a USB HID generic device by the Linux OS. Best wishes Joe
@@Lenovo OK, many thanks. I'll buy one soon