Short answer the game is easy, pull whatever you want. Long answer, Robin and Ruan Mei because they work with any team archetype and can get away with 4 star light cones.
And they can make any 4 star DPS work too. Great for new players like me who literally have a full set of 4 stars as the 2nd team, not because I want to but because those are the only chars I have. I am on the verge of building Yanqing because of how desperate I am rn, but since I don’t have Gepard, so I can’t build him, which is probably a blessing in disguise tbh. The only other 5* I have is Clara, but she’s pretty… meh, she’s strong and fun but she doesn’t really do as well as I wanted for end game content (and no I’m not talking about 0 cycle, my aim rn is to at least 2 star all stages) So my 2nd team now have Ruan Mei plopped right in the middle of 4 star characters. Although I would very much prefer Robin over Ruan Mei
@@SaBeR_2442 If you move fast through the content you can get Feixiao as well, both guaranteed. I did a video about this recently, you can get around 350 pulls in the first month of play if you do everything.
I got E1 Ruan mei in one ten pull 💀 I disconnected mid pull though so I didn't get the screen shot. Seeing the ! on eidolons did give me a shock though
I bet 10 dollars on my friend that he couldn't get me sparkle in one ten pull, at 0 pity no guarantee. In fact, it was my first ever ten pull on special banner in hsr. He got Gerald and sparkle back to back 😂
I’ve played with a similar kind of critical thinking (similar pull pattern too)… mainly because I really hate building new units. I like to make sure I’ll really use a character or the farming isn’t worth it to me.
you saved my ass with this video, impeccable timing. i've been playing since 2.2 and i've still not pulled anyone because i absolutely want aventurine and i'm f2p. thank you very much, as someone who really likes to "study" games, i love your videos
The only true "value" in any game is how much fun you have while playing it. Emotional investment is the one that matters and it must pay off. E.g. I'm one of 3 people who have e1 Jade(got double), and I'm having a blast with her, Herta/Jade/Robin/Aventurine is my current favorite team, and it's fabulous.
8:10 As someone who pulled both Luocha and Blade back to back when they released I've never once regretted it. They've been my favorite duo to play for most of the game and still are, especially with the crazy synergy between Bronya and Robin. I had super fun using them to clear out Kafka's side in the current AS.
You may get your wish. Future possible metas include summon and HP fluctuation. Many destruction, a number of erudition, some nihility, very few harmony and abundance, and no hunt and no preservation units appear slated to debut for W4 (World 4), or Amphoreus, a Greek-themed planet which the Astral Express will visit next.
Take every thing in the above comment with a big grain of salt, of course. Even if some things or everything above are true now, the developers can always change plans.
Blade seems pretty fun, I wish i have him, I guess all of the hate were because of who he get compared to? Or how he can’t 0 cycle any mode unlike other 5* ? Which is a weird mindset to me because I would go crazy just to be able to clear end game contents
@@mediumsurmoon6283 I dont think you know but Blade can no longer even beat any mode much less 0 cycle them. For you to be able to play with Blade and still beat the endgame content your 2nd dps would need to 0 cycle their round
In a nutshell : new players should get themselves one premium sustain, then only pull for harmony characters and sometimes one dps if theyre broken (Acheron/Firefly and questionnably Jingliu)
@@mrJones-ii7sh somehow this is true. 😂 Because premium sustains offer very small amount of dps increase for the whole team whereas dps and harmony or even nihility can offer three times more DMG increasing buffs or debuffs. Hence I'm only using free sustains and still doing very good too
@@mrJones-ii7sh yeah. I don't think I should overkill the healer's role. After all they're just there to heal, to make your run comfortable and nothing else. A well built 4 star sustain can do a healer's job just fine and if your DPS and supports are cracked anyway, the enemy will die quick enough before healing can even become a problem. The only premium sustain I'd argue have value to pull is HuoHuo with her energy giving gimmick. Lingsha is just an upgraded Gallachad. Luocha's kit is too outdated in this current version already
A lot of HSR players have this small thing for saying X character is a must pull. Which really is not true. Not unit in this game is EVER a must pull because of how the game is defined by strategy. While yes meta units are good and can make your account better the dont actually solve the major issues of that being build/strategy. The drfining characters of being considered must pulls are robin and ruan mei. They have strong base kits and have great early eidolons but they arent required for a team. Firefly superbreak teams are most prominent example for wanting ruan mei. See how said want instead need? While yes ruan.ei dramatically increases ff performance she isnt a must. Other subsitutes can be used. The point im trying to make is that a unit may help solve some problems its not going to solve ALL your problems because in the end of the day it comes down to a build / team comp issue. Instead of saying said unit is must a pull we should instead recommend said unit as great support for said team. And this video perfectly displays this thankyou.😊
Looking back to all the previous banners, older players (prior 2.0) really took it hard. As the game is just starting, there are few characters to work on and only hypercarry is the available gamestyle. Imo, we newer players are fortunate (start at Sparkle banner). The game had already laid the foundation of different gamestyles and develop new characters based on them. Like for example; they had Ruan Mei and create HMC for Super Break, they just need DPS (Firefly, Boothill) and sustain (Gallagher and Lingsha). In addition, they released or rerun these characters simultaneously so that you can play them together. Like the free Dr. Ratio, then Aventurine, Robin, Topaz and Jade for FUA. As for my account: Free Dr. Ratio Bronya on Departure Warp Sparkle E0S1 Acheron E0S1 Aventurine Jingliu E0S1 (I got her on 3pass😭) Fu Xuan Ruan Mei E0S1 Lost to Himeko on Firefly banner I think my roster is well balanced, I can mix and match teams with different gamestyle except DOT. Planning to pull Kafka when she rerun.
I'm a day one player and oh how you are so right on us old players having it rough. Back then the only fixed archetype are DOT and hypercarry. I decided to get hypercarry bc danheng 5* was just the hype back then, also bc he's part of AE and the lack of imaginary chars back then so i pulled him. Nowadays i barely use Imbibitor Lunae, even though I pulled sparkle for him. I find myself loving FUA units so much more ever since I saw the synergy between Topaz and Ratio. Even Blade's FUA playstyle is still confy as heck (a shame abt his numbers). Back then, Hunt characters were so ass since we only have like Seele (which im not interested at), yanqing, 4* danheng.. they don't rly have FUA incorporated and got blown out of the water by destruction so yea Oh and I'm one of the Kingyuan believer. I think he aged decent with the release of PF, i also use sparkle with him instead of IL. Kinda shocked me how his FUA playstyle holds up even now and was pretty much the blueprint for acheron (stack system)
I agree so much, I even got to think that the game is not F2P enough because all of my hard earned units are replaced and I had to pull for more to be competent. I have JY, SW, Luocha, DHIL, even pulled sparkle for them but I never use them now, the hypercarries are just so incompetent without their S1. Now I am aFirefly, Boothill and Acheron main and the power gap with older characters are big. I use Gallagher way more than Luocha, a 5 star that I spent a lot on. Now that they know where the game is going, I hope they will make every playstle shine in their own way, because I feel betrayed and robbed.
When new gacha games come out, I always skip at least the first 4 limited banners because a) those characters usually get powercrept a few patches down the line and b) early release content is usually easy enough to clear all with 4-star teams.
Almost identical to my account. I started playing in Jingliu banner so largest differences are eidolons and healer. I have Huohuo and not Loucha. My only signature was acheron's and only eidolon was her e2. I'm planning to skip Jiaoqiu since pela e6 and SW are enough for me. I got signature with one pull. I was trying to get S5 resolution. Then I got amazing luck with rest of my pulls. I have only lost 50/50 two times unlike in my genshin impact where my 50/50 win rate is 15,4 %. One of those victories was c1 venti. It wasn't planned. I consider c1 venti worst 5 star constellation.
@@NuevaYonko I actually did it last week (7 days ago). I don't regret. At least I have one team fully build to next ten years. Now I can plan my second team.
My first limited 5 star was ruan mei, during the entire process of getting her i was tempted to pull for firefly bcz of how cool and op she is, but Ruan Mei was straight up more value Then I ended up getting firefly lolz
very nice video brother and yeah idk i feel like if there really was a MUST PULL character it would obviously be RM, she’s just insanely good can’t miss out on her no matter what
Step 1: Find your 2 favorite characters, if they are from different teams go to step 2, else pick one more charater. Step 2: find the BiS teamates for that character and pull them. Step 3: find the OP Eidolons in that composition and pull it. That's what i did in my main account and i've been 0cycling MoC in every patch with Topaz who is not only my favorite DPS, but also a subpar option, and yet im steamrolling content because of *vertical investment* i could even bruteforce AS with HC Topaz if wanted to do so. Pull for the characters you like, More wholesomeness and less anxiety. And remember: Love and respect yourself.
I definitely don’t roll for kits or value - mostly for how much I love someone … it’s hard to not roll with the meta, cuz some of my endgames are not fun. But I don’t want to regret my old units because of power creep…. 😅 I really do love my units. For me it is definitely about how much I enjoy the gameplay, yeah…
I strongly agree with your arguments, where it's not about pulling all the character to get an easy way to clear the contents. I spent a lot of money on this game (at least for me), but I recently got the feeling that "What is the endpoint if I keep pulling all of the newest characters?". Sure it's fun to get the newest character and to ride the "hype-wave", but I usually get bored after 2 weeks of playing. Right now I tried to build my *4 that already collecting dust which bring different type of joy and challenge of playing the game
It's always a pleasure to see when you post man 🙏 Always appreciate your thought process with Honkai and characters. It's helped me formulate how I decide whether or not to pull on a banner. Although I do have a question and I feel you've already been asked this many times on stream but, Will you be potentially pulling for Feixiao as well? or will that be a skip for you since you already have two limited hyper carry dps and now you just want to get teammates that will help support them overall? hence your potential pulling for Jiaoqiu? Personally I have been saving to pull for her (I unfortunately fell into the trap and ended up trying to pull for Jade on the last day of her banner with a lost 5050) because I feel like she could replace Seele as a main hyper carry. I'd still use Seele overall just because I like her but Feixiao has been on my radar since her announcement simply due to the fact she has a wind element and my account is severely lacking in that currently. But after the cutscene of her first reveal? yeah I am locked LOL. But yeah as always a great video and a pleasure. Have a great day
As someone who has been around since 1.0 and has made the same pulling decisions (difference is I pulled for more character instead of eidolons and sig LCs) I honestly regret like most of my pulling decisions because I no longer use like half of the characters I pulled.
I think that some characters can be considered "universal must pull" just because every account has some really powerful "free" characters: harmony mc, hunt march, gallagher (we got 2 free gallagher during penacony, so you just need 1 additional gallagher for E2), herta for PF You can pull a single ruan mei and build a very solid team with gallagher/harmony mc/hunt march or another f2p break focused character You can pull a single robin and build another solid team with gallagher (qpq - a free LC) / bronya (you can always get her after 300 standard pulls if you are unlucky) / hunt march Robin is also the best buffer for PF, robin/herta/himeko can bruteforce nearly any PF Spending your jades for them will open a lot of f2p friendly solid teams, so i think that those 2 units are the only two "universal must pull" for this game
When I looked at my Friend's clearance lineups for MOC, all their Firefly teams had Ruan Mei, which motivated to clear it without Ruan Mei on my f2p Firefly team
I started near the end of Sparkle's banner. I pulled for Acheron and her sig, Aventurine, Robin, Ruan Mei, Firefly and next I'm planning on pulling Jiaoqiu I pulled for Acheron for several reasons, but the main reason was because of her ultimate stacking. It has so much future potential since it's not locked to the normal ultimate energy system. With Jiaoqiu, its a direct upgrade to her. I'm also keeping an eye out for other potential combinations: Boothill has something similar to what I had in mind, since he can debuff on skill, then break out of his taunt to do another skill on the same turn (which counts as two separate stacks for acheron) Boothill's synergy wasn't strong enough for me to pull him though. I pulled Aventurine because I needed a strong sustain. I pulled Robin because she's obscenely powerful for not only my characters in PF, but also hypercarry in general. I could see the potential of her 100%av on ult. I pulled Ruan Mei because Super Break requires very little resources to get into, and I needed a second strong dps on my account (I couldn't use ratio since acheron was using all my debuffers) So then I pulled Firefly (because I like her) I can't see Sparkle outshining robin in anything she does, since her main benefit over Robin is the sp and comfortability. (A non-issue)
I figure I'll add on to the Luocha thing. I also skipped him initially as I had Bailu and Gepard. But he would've saved me from so much suffering later on. Thankfully I got Fu Xuan and later Aaventurine to carry my sustains along with E6 Gallagher. But it really hurt early on for sure.
I play my secondary acc similar to how you do play: I’m kinda only investing in new supports and focusing on my 2 DPS that carry me. My main acc is where I get who I want (like I get Kafka, BS or Argenti because they are hot) and whale occasionally but since I have too big a roaster with only few characters missing it is less fun. So I fully agree with you. I do wish I had you foresight and discipline tho. 😂
I will say the most long lasting, account changing, characters I've pulled have been Luocha and Ruan Mei. Even though i seem to have a habit of collecting Sustain (I have all of them except Huo Huo) Luocha is still my go to Sustain in MoC and team building when I just need healing onthe team. Of course I use Gallagher for Break teams and Aventurine for follow up or Fu Xuan if the enemy is super hard hitting but Luocha does have a niche with self buffing enemies. His enemy buff cleanse is really nice and it's not something easily done (I think only Pela and the BP Lightcone is the only other sources). As for Ruan Mei... what's there to say? She really good and Universal. Even if she's power crept she'll still be useful for a long time given that she's harmony and you can double her up with someone else with little trouble.
i pull whenever and whoever i want it just coincidence that they either hot mommies or cute girls but as a veteran with more than 10 years of turn base experience as the basic gameplay, getting support always better than dps, would be great if they offer one or more of these effect (spd buff/debuff, atk/damage buff, form of sustain (heal,shield,defense buff), defense debuff, atk debuff) left one being more prioritized
@@SuguruSaturday im also kinda new to HSR, she is indeed debuffer but more of DOT masterclass in my comment above dot is probabaly the least useful debuff (hell im not even mentioning it, DOT just does damage when enemies move, but kafka offset that, thats why she unique in her own way), so she is kinda debuff damage dealer. since she offer not that much in term of other debuff while black swan, she can defense debuff on her skill, between these 2 mommies black swan have better debuff to offer (correct me if i wrong, i just read those 2 skill and traces, since im also new) in most turn based game, the most OP thing to do probably get more turn which mean spd buff or extra turn (action forward in case of HSR) are preferable. then atk buffer + defense debuff so that your dps can do lot of damage, hence why robin and ruan mei is so good ( they literally does turn manipulation thru spd/action forward and they buff the team), sparkle and bronya does that but only 1 allies also having dps that can buff on their own also great bonus on themselves
What up Nutty Buddys? It's kind of interesting because the 4-star supports are still really good. It honestly might have be best to pull Damage characters. You could still do really well with just one Limited support. I did the opposite - i got too many supports and sustains, but since i didn't have a limited damage dealer, i was still struggling to clear MoC. HSR is fun- all the different archetypes give good variety. I started with Clara and came to really enjoy follow up attacks. So far, Sparkle has been my favorite character. She's the only character i pulled the signature LC for and i ended up getting her E1 while i working toward pity for Robin. Looking forward to grabbing her E2 this week!
Same case with me, but i have Acheron and firefly and can clear all 3 endgame content easily, those 2 DPS can carry on MoC and AS pretty easy for me, as for PF I use herta+himeko and pair them with robin+RM for easy 30K points more
Yeah you definitely wanna focus on building the archetypes you like For me I want to go for DOT, Break and Hypercarry So I have a pulling plan for units like Kafka black swan, firefly Ruan Mei, Acheron Silver wolf etc Completely ignoring FUA characters even tho it seems Hoyo really loves that Archetype rn 😅
can you share how youve kept up with endgame stuff with only hypercarry as your comp. since starting in 2.1, i got acheron and ratio and boothill team mostly up and running, and those 3 really blaze through the 3 modes, just wondering what the f2p setup would be for as and pf
I pulled Jing Yuan mainly for Tingyun. I found this well worth it as that character was extremely valuable. Only character I regret not pulling was probably Robin. I should have skipped Boothill instead because I ended up getting e2 Firefly.
I hoped to not hear about Ruan Mei not being a must pull because I didn't have enough wishes to get her when I started playing and I regret it to this day...
A must pull character that applies to all players does not exist. Not even ruan mei, robin, or sparkle are must pulls. Just get a character you like, build them based on their kit, and get a fitting team. They will still be good. The character you like is the character that will help you enjoy, which is the only must-have in this game -- fun.
We have almost the same pull record, I just do not pull for eidolons, and I pulled for Seele with her LC, but not for Luocha (I lost 50/50 to Welt on his banner), aha, and I pulled Boothill (not Firefly) as I could not clear the MoC back then with my characters. One remark though: Ruan Mei is IMHO a must-pull unit. It amplifies any team damage and is currently part of "insane" break meta. Ruan Mei enhances team damage about 33% (my gut calculations, no math involved), which is so visible in Pure Fiction (where 20K points suddenly raise to 30K and you can get all the stars).
As a f2p player that started from seele re rerun I have (from limited characters), seele, silver wolf, ruan mei, huo huo, ruan mei, firefly, yin lin. The latest 50/50 I lost was on robins first banner.
Most of my built characters are from 1.0, 70/200. Im thinking of vertical investing in them despite the game’s evident progression with niche archetypes. And while I noticed now that even if you have every element available-maybe it’s just me but I always get stumped by certain game modes with the current roster I have. Still, I rather the little challenge and the fact that i don’t have several under built characters.
My pull history is almost identical. The only differences are that I pulled Jing Yuan instead of Jingliu, and Aventurine instead of Sparkle. I rarely ever used Jing Yuan (regret pull) and I'm only just building Aventurine now. I only picked up Acheron for Quality of Life in the Simulated Universe, but Feixiao is the 1st limited 5* DPS in the game that I think actually looks good, so I'm considering it. But really, I just Screwllum 😅
Since Black Swan & DHIL rerun, I've not lost my 50/50 until I pulled for Jingliu. Lost my 50/50 again on Topaz rerun and managed to E1 (lucky pull). And yes I think I've spent close to at least $1K (I think) on the characters and LCs that I want because I'm in a financially good space to splurge. But this patch really made me save up cos I'm skipping JQ and pulling for Feixiao. I'm still trying to save up more jades in case I lose my 50/50 but I'm willing to 💳 if it comes to that point in time.
0:19, you’re wrong… I got Acheron and she single handedly saved my account bcuz the 5 stars that I had before her had absolutely zero synergy with eachother. (BS, SW and Blade). She carried me through everything
Yes. Strong units help but it's the team building around said units which actually define how a character performs. Your statement is weak because it's really actually how your resources are managed and are built upon to make said units. You looking narrowly on this topic and deeper.
i was on the verge of giving up on hsr because i was getting kind of bored. then came yunli. she is so fun to play. now my current goal is to have the best built yunli and teams around her and to later invest in her vertically. will i get other characters? probably. but my tier list is yunli first, yunli teams second. everyone else third.
My story I pulled blackswan with no intension and got her winning pity and oh man it works with most of the comps for me bc of her dots and def shread from her skill and her ult kit that makes the enemy receive more dmg at their turn
So what you’re saying is Ruan Mei is 99% a must pull, but that 1% makes her not a must pull for everyone right? Jokes aside, I agree that no unit is a must pull ever, but there are certainly units who can get more value easily on anyone’s account regardless of what they’ve invested in.
(I start playing at 1.4) I regret pulling Silver wolf on her rerun but it was an easy pull so its ok. I wish i had ARGENTI because Pure fiction is painful if your only PF unit is Herta. Failed to get ACHERON. Too broke for BOOTHILL. Skipped FIREFLY despise the fact she 100% ruined superbreak. Skipped ROBIN. Might get her in the future. Skipped Inbibitor rerun. Seems like too much investment to go for E2S1 to turn him into a complete menace. As someone who dosen't 0 cycle everything ; Aventurine is the one character that was an absolute game changer for survival and dealing free dmg. Huo Huo was a ridiculously lucky one tap .Didn't planned to pull for her in the first place but she sure provide major value as healer and a battery. She was great for Tingyun/Jingliu and she is still great with Tingyun/Yunli. Ruan Mei is Ruan Mei. Sparkle is still good all over the place, even better if you have some team mate hungry for SP. Yunli is great . My favorite unit since Aventurine. Don't care if she's meta or not tbh. TLDR: Support still rules the game. 2 sustain, one for each team, like Aventurine & Huo Huo make your life super easy. Try to invest into a Pure Fiction unit. If you got Acheron and Firefly , you pretty much beat the game. Also Acheron is about to get her new best boi to make her even more absurd. And obviously, if you're doing fine already, just pull for whatever you want . That's what i did with Yunli and i'm happy. Now saving for the FATE collab .
Started playing in 2.0 My (simple) advice: If you're f2p like me; pick 2 archetypes (dot, fua, hyper, break, etc), and only pull units that support your chosen archetype. I like fua, so I pulled for all the IPC units + robin. And I like acheron so I'm planning on pulling JQ. And I'm planning on getting all their LC when they rerun. I always get the units I want with this and I can full clear all endgame
Honestly they have pretty much equal performances, sparkle is amazing for E2 Acheron , but Jiaoqui is still her best support even with her second eidolon
I 100% am getting Kafka in the upcoming rerun, but am also missing Black Swan and Huohuo. Should I prioritize Huohuo or Black Swan if my only healers are Lynx. Natasha, Gallagher?
personally i would go for black swan, kafka + black swan is a nuclear combination and whilst kafka is still an excellent, versatile character without black swan the dmg dealt by your team will be a lot lower. even though huohuo is much more than a healer, it's still the main thing you actually NEED to put her in a team for and it's a lot easier to replace her role (healing) with that of swan (huge numbers). We have two whole paths dedicated to keeping your team alive so there should be another character within the next few banners that you can pull after black swan as your 5 star sustain.
Bro healer or shielder is necessary in this game.I think getting huohuo is nice but its ur choice. If u can sustain with them go for black swan if not go for huohuo. If u are new player then u can easily get both of them.
Gallagher copies atleast E4, with a very fast 160+ speed...would be great for Dual DPS team comps. SP generation is also a factor, on how smooth the rotations gonna be. Coz you would prefer Black Swan and Kafka to be Skill spamming most of the time on their turns. If you are set on playing DOT.
Biggest regret pulling Blade. Even with Jade, he is just not up to par and is always benched. Jade and Jingyuan work better. A lot of units synergize well with Jing. I got Luocha and thought Blade would be fun with him. But he is still meh. Wish i got Kafka or Dan Heng IL insteas but i stopped playing for awhile and came back around Sparkle's debut who also works great with Jing.
For hyv games, here's my procedure to tell if a character is a 'must pull', I ask one simple question. "Is this character Furina?" Yes: = Must Pull No: = Not a Must Pull
I pulled for Jing Yuan cause of VA, DanIL cause I liked how he played, I got Seele on her rerun cause HI3 but skipped Ruan Mei cause I was curious about the future How I pull is based on if I like what the character does or I know the VA
Tldr harmony units lolz Jk pull whoever depending on your goals I guess ( waifu, meta, both, for fun.) Personally I go for meta to get more rewards and easier content clearing
Im just looking what i need rn i have enough dps characters and harmony characters i need substain characters thats why im going for adventurine in the future
Honestly i just pulled everyone there are few characters i decided to skip which were Kafka, topaz, luocha and sone others cuz at the time they were niche
You were absolutely wrong. Not only is Hypercarry pretty much obsolete right now, but Robin is the best support. She clears RM in every team comp except break teams. Robin clears in hypercarry, in dot, in fua, and in dual dps teams. She only loses to break for obvious reasons.
Yeah, but break is just that good of a team comp, and RM is still amazing in every other team. The buffs she provides are also universal, whereas Robin's are ATK scaling (not that there are a lot of non ATK scaling units tho). So RM is still better than Robin globally imo. Robin still rules in follow ups
@@finiraelkhami8251Boothill still appreciates Robin's extra turns, and her ATK scalings aren't completed wasted on him either since he has Crit via his BE conversion trace. Boothill + Hunt March + Bronya + Robin is capable of 0 cycling the current MoC Argenti. Sure Boothill loves Ruan Mei but he isn't completely dependent on her. The only team Robin doesn't work well with is Firefly. That's it.
"When you play hypercarries, you have more jades" Thats just blatantly wrong since you pull for their eidolons and signatures which ends up costing more than a full fua team and that team still can clear all content with max rewards at e0s0. Your reasoning doesnt make sense, also the fact that youve spent much more money on the game further disprove your point.
Lets go through FUA team vs Hypercarries if you decide to pull their meta teams rn owning nothing: Fua Team: -Topaz (Sig is very big for them as for every hunt unit) -Ratio (WAS free but will be replaced by feixiao who also suffers from hunt sigs being extreme boosts) -Robin -Aventurine 4 - 6 cost team with sig Yunli (The most expensive generic hypercarry Meta team): - Yunli - Robin/Sparkle - Tingyun - Huohuo 3 - 4 cost team with sig Firefly (2 cost with no sigs) Jingliu (3-4 cost with sig) Dhil (3-4 cost with sig) Boothill (3 cost with sig) FUA team is an expensive team and if we begin to ignore the amount of sustains/supports hypercarry teams share you still have to account for 2 the dual DPS nature of FUA team who both receive massive boosts from signatures.
I believe you take nut's reasoning wrong. He had existing two hypercarry teams with two 5* sustain already. He probably only needs two Golds (let's say one Gold equivalent to one 5* character or weapon) at least, or four Golds at most. On the other hand, if he want to builds another team, let's say fua, he will need three Gold at least, since neither of his five-star sustain are great for fua so he needs Aventurine, and might add one more Gold for Robin, since Robin is better than Ruan Mei in fua teams. So rather than spend four Golds or more just to make a team that performs no better than his existing teams, why not use those Golds to make existing one stronger?
this is actually really informative in a time when i needed this advice. i've always been a metachaser and loving my acheron (and her character too) and i just.. dont like JQ. it was stressing me out for no reason... i won't be pulling him.
That sheetless bed is driving me nuts, please put a sheet on it
The sheet wasn't a Must Pull (over the bed) either /s
Sadly, the bed is no longer with us
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Me laying in my sheetless bed rn: 👀
This whole video can be boiled down to pick a fav character and build a team around them
That's every video of his
This is what I’ve been doing
Jing Yuan and Blade mains punching the air rn...
Favourite dps*
Short answer the game is easy, pull whatever you want. Long answer, Robin and Ruan Mei because they work with any team archetype and can get away with 4 star light cones.
They can even work with 3 star lc which is amazing
And they can make any 4 star DPS work too. Great for new players like me who literally have a full set of 4 stars as the 2nd team, not because I want to but because those are the only chars I have. I am on the verge of building Yanqing because of how desperate I am rn, but since I don’t have Gepard, so I can’t build him, which is probably a blessing in disguise tbh. The only other 5* I have is Clara, but she’s pretty… meh, she’s strong and fun but she doesn’t really do as well as I wanted for end game content (and no I’m not talking about 0 cycle, my aim rn is to at least 2 star all stages)
So my 2nd team now have Ruan Mei plopped right in the middle of 4 star characters. Although I would very much prefer Robin over Ruan Mei
@@mediumsurmoon6283 what did you use your stellar jade on?
@@Mariengrad1648Fr tho im a new player of like 5 days and managed to get over 90 pulls worth of jades in tht time(waiting robin)
@@SaBeR_2442 If you move fast through the content you can get Feixiao as well, both guaranteed. I did a video about this recently, you can get around 350 pulls in the first month of play if you do everything.
I ended up getting Bronya and Ruan Mei in the same 10 pull during her rerun. Best 10 pull of my life.
that happened to me when pulling for adventurine!!! bronya came with him, so cool!!!
The same thing happened in my account. It certainly changed my account for the better.
I got E1 Ruan mei in one ten pull 💀 I disconnected mid pull though so I didn't get the screen shot. Seeing the ! on eidolons did give me a shock though
@@joelfalconi7168 Aventurine*
I bet 10 dollars on my friend that he couldn't get me sparkle in one ten pull, at 0 pity no guarantee. In fact, it was my first ever ten pull on special banner in hsr. He got Gerald and sparkle back to back 😂
I could never have this way of critical thinking. the only meta I know is "I see cool looking tall (fe)male, I pull" 😭
That’s how I got ruan mei 😂 I just liked her design at the moment. Didn’t even know anything about her kit
Yep lol!
@@fantasticfail1796no bc same 😭I got her and her light cone too purely by luck!(i won the 50/50 with low pity) she’s been my best unit so far
I’ve played with a similar kind of critical thinking (similar pull pattern too)… mainly because I really hate building new units.
I like to make sure I’ll really use a character or the farming isn’t worth it to me.
you saved my ass with this video, impeccable timing. i've been playing since 2.2 and i've still not pulled anyone because i absolutely want aventurine and i'm f2p. thank you very much, as someone who really likes to "study" games, i love your videos
The only true "value" in any game is how much fun you have while playing it. Emotional investment is the one that matters and it must pay off.
E.g. I'm one of 3 people who have e1 Jade(got double), and I'm having a blast with her, Herta/Jade/Robin/Aventurine is my current favorite team, and it's fabulous.
I have her E0, right now Jade is the only character I seriously consider trying to get E1.
We accept this but please stop rubbing this useless take on our faces. We all know that the main focus is having fun
8:10 As someone who pulled both Luocha and Blade back to back when they released I've never once regretted it. They've been my favorite duo to play for most of the game and still are, especially with the crazy synergy between Bronya and Robin. I had super fun using them to clear out Kafka's side in the current AS.
As a Blade main I pray for a HP buffer support 🙏🙏
You may get your wish. Future possible metas include summon and HP fluctuation. Many destruction, a number of erudition, some nihility, very few harmony and abundance, and no hunt and no preservation units appear slated to debut for W4 (World 4), or Amphoreus, a Greek-themed planet which the Astral Express will visit next.
Take every thing in the above comment with a big grain of salt, of course. Even if some things or everything above are true now, the developers can always change plans.
Even if a HP support comes out Blade is still going to be ass 💀💀
Blade seems pretty fun, I wish i have him, I guess all of the hate were because of who he get compared to? Or how he can’t 0 cycle any mode unlike other 5* ? Which is a weird mindset to me because I would go crazy just to be able to clear end game contents
@@mediumsurmoon6283 I dont think you know but Blade can no longer even beat any mode much less 0 cycle them. For you to be able to play with Blade and still beat the endgame content your 2nd dps would need to 0 cycle their round
In a nutshell : new players should get themselves one premium sustain, then only pull for harmony characters and sometimes one dps if theyre broken (Acheron/Firefly and questionnably Jingliu)
Terrible advice go build your lynx and gallagher right now i havnt spent a single wish on sustain units and my acount is way stonger because of it
@@mrJones-ii7sh If i could go back in time, i would definitely refund my Luochud and just stick with bailu/gep/lynx/13
@@mrJones-ii7sh somehow this is true. 😂 Because premium sustains offer very small amount of dps increase for the whole team whereas dps and harmony or even nihility can offer three times more DMG increasing buffs or debuffs. Hence I'm only using free sustains and still doing very good too
@@youremotionalsupport194 after seeing what happened to loucha he got beat by a four star on his own banner I'm scared to pull lingsha
@@mrJones-ii7sh yeah. I don't think I should overkill the healer's role. After all they're just there to heal, to make your run comfortable and nothing else. A well built 4 star sustain can do a healer's job just fine and if your DPS and supports are cracked anyway, the enemy will die quick enough before healing can even become a problem. The only premium sustain I'd argue have value to pull is HuoHuo with her energy giving gimmick. Lingsha is just an upgraded Gallachad. Luocha's kit is too outdated in this current version already
Thanks for your thoughts! I love your attitude to the game, it’s so reasonable and healthy, helped me a lot :) thanks
A lot of HSR players have this small thing for saying X character is a must pull. Which really is not true. Not unit in this game is EVER a must pull because of how the game is defined by strategy. While yes meta units are good and can make your account better the dont actually solve the major issues of that being build/strategy.
The drfining characters of being considered must pulls are robin and ruan mei. They have strong base kits and have great early eidolons but they arent required for a team.
Firefly superbreak teams are most prominent example for wanting ruan mei. See how said want instead need? While yes ruan.ei dramatically increases ff performance she isnt a must. Other subsitutes can be used.
The point im trying to make is that a unit may help solve some problems its not going to solve ALL your problems because in the end of the day it comes down to a build / team comp issue.
Instead of saying said unit is must a pull we should instead recommend said unit as great support for said team.
And this video perfectly displays this thankyou.😊
Looking back to all the previous banners, older players (prior 2.0) really took it hard. As the game is just starting, there are few characters to work on and only hypercarry is the available gamestyle.
Imo, we newer players are fortunate (start at Sparkle banner). The game had already laid the foundation of different gamestyles and develop new characters based on them. Like for example; they had Ruan Mei and create HMC for Super Break, they just need DPS (Firefly, Boothill) and sustain (Gallagher and Lingsha). In addition, they released or rerun these characters simultaneously so that you can play them together. Like the free Dr. Ratio, then Aventurine, Robin, Topaz and Jade for FUA.
As for my account:
Free Dr. Ratio
Bronya on Departure Warp
Sparkle E0S1
Acheron E0S1
Aventurine
Jingliu E0S1 (I got her on 3pass😭)
Fu Xuan
Ruan Mei E0S1
Lost to Himeko on Firefly banner
I think my roster is well balanced, I can mix and match teams with different gamestyle except DOT. Planning to pull Kafka when she rerun.
I'm a day one player and oh how you are so right on us old players having it rough. Back then the only fixed archetype are DOT and hypercarry. I decided to get hypercarry bc danheng 5* was just the hype back then, also bc he's part of AE and the lack of imaginary chars back then so i pulled him.
Nowadays i barely use Imbibitor Lunae, even though I pulled sparkle for him. I find myself loving FUA units so much more ever since I saw the synergy between Topaz and Ratio. Even Blade's FUA playstyle is still confy as heck (a shame abt his numbers).
Back then, Hunt characters were so ass since we only have like Seele (which im not interested at), yanqing, 4* danheng.. they don't rly have FUA incorporated and got blown out of the water by destruction so yea
Oh and I'm one of the Kingyuan believer. I think he aged decent with the release of PF, i also use sparkle with him instead of IL. Kinda shocked me how his FUA playstyle holds up even now and was pretty much the blueprint for acheron (stack system)
I agree so much, I even got to think that the game is not F2P enough because all of my hard earned units are replaced and I had to pull for more to be competent. I have JY, SW, Luocha, DHIL, even pulled sparkle for them but I never use them now, the hypercarries are just so incompetent without their S1.
Now I am aFirefly, Boothill and Acheron main and the power gap with older characters are big. I use Gallagher way more than Luocha, a 5 star that I spent a lot on.
Now that they know where the game is going, I hope they will make every playstle shine in their own way, because I feel betrayed and robbed.
Nut nation rise up 🗣️🔥
Very interesting video!
very nice
The ending pixel animation is so cute 🗣🔥🤫🧏
When new gacha games come out, I always skip at least the first 4 limited banners because a) those characters usually get powercrept a few patches down the line and b) early release content is usually easy enough to clear all with 4-star teams.
i HATE when ppl say characters are "must pull"
just say theyre great, no character is a must pull 💀
Someone are. Like ruan mie or aventurine
@@zalox12and robin
Almost identical to my account. I started playing in Jingliu banner so largest differences are eidolons and healer. I have Huohuo and not Loucha. My only signature was acheron's and only eidolon was her e2. I'm planning to skip Jiaoqiu since pela e6 and SW are enough for me. I got signature with one pull. I was trying to get S5 resolution. Then I got amazing luck with rest of my pulls. I have only lost 50/50 two times unlike in my genshin impact where my 50/50 win rate is 15,4 %. One of those victories was c1 venti. It wasn't planned. I consider c1 venti worst 5 star constellation.
Trust me, pull jiaoqiu
@@NuevaYonko I actually did it last week (7 days ago). I don't regret. At least I have one team fully build to next ten years. Now I can plan my second team.
My first limited 5 star was ruan mei, during the entire process of getting her i was tempted to pull for firefly bcz of how cool and op she is, but Ruan Mei was straight up more value
Then I ended up getting firefly lolz
For those who didnt get her
Hope you get her on her rerun guys
@@pabroah6434i finally got her.
My plan is pull what I need and is someone I like. Ex. A sustainer: Aventurine. After Ill pull whoever I like for RM and Robin.
I agree support units are more resistant to power creep. Sunday is coming soon and definitely a must pull for a hyper carry team.
Herta is my favorite character ever , I'm so happy to see that someone appreciate her too
very nice video brother and yeah idk i feel like if there really was a MUST PULL character it would obviously be RM, she’s just insanely good can’t miss out on her no matter what
I always pull whoever I like most and never care about meta but RM was the only person to make me think like “Wow she’s gonna be forever.”
@@dynlulI can understand the sentiment but I was more curious about what’s to come so I didn’t 😅
I pulled and got her on her first banner just because her design appealed to me 😂. Little did I know she would be a meta powerhouse
@@fantasticfail1796 Same I got her because she was beautiful
Step 1: Find your 2 favorite characters, if they are from different teams go to step 2, else pick one more charater.
Step 2: find the BiS teamates for that character and pull them.
Step 3: find the OP Eidolons in that composition and pull it.
That's what i did in my main account and i've been 0cycling MoC in every patch with Topaz who is not only my favorite DPS, but also a subpar option, and yet im steamrolling content because of *vertical investment* i could even bruteforce AS with HC Topaz if wanted to do so. Pull for the characters you like, More wholesomeness and less anxiety. And remember: Love and respect yourself.
I definitely don’t roll for kits or value - mostly for how much I love someone … it’s hard to not roll with the meta, cuz some of my endgames are not fun. But I don’t want to regret my old units because of power creep…. 😅 I really do love my units. For me it is definitely about how much I enjoy the gameplay, yeah…
I strongly agree with your arguments, where it's not about pulling all the character to get an easy way to clear the contents.
I spent a lot of money on this game (at least for me), but I recently got the feeling that "What is the endpoint if I keep pulling all of the newest characters?". Sure it's fun to get the newest character and to ride the "hype-wave", but I usually get bored after 2 weeks of playing. Right now I tried to build my *4 that already collecting dust which bring different type of joy and challenge of playing the game
It's always a pleasure to see when you post man 🙏 Always appreciate your thought process with Honkai and characters. It's helped me formulate how I decide whether or not to pull on a banner. Although I do have a question and I feel you've already been asked this many times on stream but, Will you be potentially pulling for Feixiao as well? or will that be a skip for you since you already have two limited hyper carry dps and now you just want to get teammates that will help support them overall? hence your potential pulling for Jiaoqiu?
Personally I have been saving to pull for her (I unfortunately fell into the trap and ended up trying to pull for Jade on the last day of her banner with a lost 5050) because I feel like she could replace Seele as a main hyper carry. I'd still use Seele overall just because I like her but Feixiao has been on my radar since her announcement simply due to the fact she has a wind element and my account is severely lacking in that currently. But after the cutscene of her first reveal? yeah I am locked LOL.
But yeah as always a great video and a pleasure. Have a great day
Build teams, not characters. As long as you do this, you will have a functioning account without sacrificing your wallet.
Lets go Sparkle Pull! Very usefull video thank you.
Also pulling SW was the best investment i made (with himeko). Still never regretted getting her till this day. Tectone could never 😂
As someone who has been around since 1.0 and has made the same pulling decisions (difference is I pulled for more character instead of eidolons and sig LCs) I honestly regret like most of my pulling decisions because I no longer use like half of the characters I pulled.
I think that some characters can be considered "universal must pull" just because every account has some really powerful "free" characters: harmony mc, hunt march, gallagher (we got 2 free gallagher during penacony, so you just need 1 additional gallagher for E2), herta for PF
You can pull a single ruan mei and build a very solid team with gallagher/harmony mc/hunt march or another f2p break focused character
You can pull a single robin and build another solid team with gallagher (qpq - a free LC) / bronya (you can always get her after 300 standard pulls if you are unlucky) / hunt march
Robin is also the best buffer for PF, robin/herta/himeko can bruteforce nearly any PF
Spending your jades for them will open a lot of f2p friendly solid teams, so i think that those 2 units are the only two "universal must pull" for this game
Feels like bro is telling my story with this game. I can relate a lot dayum...
When I looked at my Friend's clearance lineups for MOC, all their Firefly teams had Ruan Mei, which motivated to clear it without Ruan Mei on my f2p Firefly team
I started near the end of Sparkle's banner.
I pulled for Acheron and her sig, Aventurine, Robin, Ruan Mei, Firefly
and next I'm planning on pulling Jiaoqiu
I pulled for Acheron for several reasons, but the main reason was because of her ultimate stacking. It has so much future potential since it's not locked to the normal ultimate energy system. With Jiaoqiu, its a direct upgrade to her. I'm also keeping an eye out for other potential combinations:
Boothill has something similar to what I had in mind, since he can debuff on skill, then break out of his taunt to do another skill on the same turn (which counts as two separate stacks for acheron)
Boothill's synergy wasn't strong enough for me to pull him though.
I pulled Aventurine because I needed a strong sustain.
I pulled Robin because she's obscenely powerful for not only my characters in PF, but also hypercarry in general. I could see the potential of her 100%av on ult.
I pulled Ruan Mei because Super Break requires very little resources to get into, and I needed a second strong dps on my account (I couldn't use ratio since acheron was using all my debuffers)
So then I pulled Firefly (because I like her)
I can't see Sparkle outshining robin in anything she does, since her main benefit over Robin is the sp and comfortability. (A non-issue)
I figure I'll add on to the Luocha thing. I also skipped him initially as I had Bailu and Gepard. But he would've saved me from so much suffering later on. Thankfully I got Fu Xuan and later Aaventurine to carry my sustains along with E6 Gallagher. But it really hurt early on for sure.
I play my secondary acc similar to how you do play: I’m kinda only investing in new supports and focusing on my 2 DPS that carry me. My main acc is where I get who I want (like I get Kafka, BS or Argenti because they are hot) and whale occasionally but since I have too big a roaster with only few characters missing it is less fun. So I fully agree with you. I do wish I had you foresight and discipline tho. 😂
I will say the most long lasting, account changing, characters I've pulled have been Luocha and Ruan Mei.
Even though i seem to have a habit of collecting Sustain (I have all of them except Huo Huo) Luocha is still my go to Sustain in MoC and team building when I just need healing onthe team.
Of course I use Gallagher for Break teams and Aventurine for follow up or Fu Xuan if the enemy is super hard hitting but Luocha does have a niche with self buffing enemies. His enemy buff cleanse is really nice and it's not something easily done (I think only Pela and the BP Lightcone is the only other sources).
As for Ruan Mei... what's there to say? She really good and Universal. Even if she's power crept she'll still be useful for a long time given that she's harmony and you can double her up with someone else with little trouble.
i pull whenever and whoever i want
it just coincidence that they either hot mommies or cute girls
but as a veteran with more than 10 years of turn base experience
as the basic gameplay, getting support always better than dps, would be great if they offer one or more of these effect (spd buff/debuff, atk/damage buff, form of sustain (heal,shield,defense buff), defense debuff, atk debuff) left one being more prioritized
In your opinion would you class kafka as a support ina way because she activates dot. I started the game recently so yh I'm a noob 😅
@@SuguruSaturday im also kinda new to HSR, she is indeed debuffer but more of DOT masterclass
in my comment above dot is probabaly the least useful debuff (hell im not even mentioning it, DOT just does damage when enemies move, but kafka offset that, thats why she unique in her own way), so she is kinda debuff damage dealer. since she offer not that much in term of other debuff
while black swan, she can defense debuff on her skill, between these 2 mommies black swan have better debuff to offer (correct me if i wrong, i just read those 2 skill and traces, since im also new)
in most turn based game, the most OP thing to do probably get more turn which mean spd buff or extra turn (action forward in case of HSR) are preferable. then atk buffer + defense debuff so that your dps can do lot of damage, hence why robin and ruan mei is so good ( they literally does turn manipulation thru spd/action forward and they buff the team), sparkle and bronya does that but only 1 allies
also having dps that can buff on their own also great bonus on themselves
I agree about Luoucha. I love him and use him all the time as well as Gallagher.
What up Nutty Buddys?
It's kind of interesting because the 4-star supports are still really good. It honestly might have be best to pull Damage characters. You could still do really well with just one Limited support.
I did the opposite - i got too many supports and sustains, but since i didn't have a limited damage dealer, i was still struggling to clear MoC.
HSR is fun- all the different archetypes give good variety. I started with Clara and came to really enjoy follow up attacks. So far, Sparkle has been my favorite character. She's the only character i pulled the signature LC for and i ended up getting her E1 while i working toward pity for Robin. Looking forward to grabbing her E2 this week!
Same case with me, but i have Acheron and firefly and can clear all 3 endgame content easily, those 2 DPS can carry on MoC and AS pretty easy for me, as for PF I use herta+himeko and pair them with robin+RM for easy 30K points more
For me it was the opposite, I have too many DPS and not enough sustain , I mean all is well until you die , and you can't do damage if you are dead
Yeah you definitely wanna focus on building the archetypes you like
For me I want to go for DOT, Break and Hypercarry
So I have a pulling plan for units like Kafka black swan, firefly Ruan Mei, Acheron Silver wolf etc
Completely ignoring FUA characters even tho it seems Hoyo really loves that Archetype rn 😅
can you share how youve kept up with endgame stuff with only hypercarry as your comp. since starting in 2.1, i got acheron and ratio and boothill team mostly up and running, and those 3 really blaze through the 3 modes, just wondering what the f2p setup would be for as and pf
I pulled Jing Yuan mainly for Tingyun. I found this well worth it as that character was extremely valuable. Only character I regret not pulling was probably Robin. I should have skipped Boothill instead because I ended up getting e2 Firefly.
What i'm getting from this: Bro pulled for 5 banners in total since the start of the game
I hoped to not hear about Ruan Mei not being a must pull because I didn't have enough wishes to get her when I started playing and I regret it to this day...
A must pull character that applies to all players does not exist. Not even ruan mei, robin, or sparkle are must pulls. Just get a character you like, build them based on their kit, and get a fitting team. They will still be good. The character you like is the character that will help you enjoy, which is the only must-have in this game -- fun.
We have almost the same pull record, I just do not pull for eidolons, and I pulled for Seele with her LC, but not for Luocha (I lost 50/50 to Welt on his banner), aha, and I pulled Boothill (not Firefly) as I could not clear the MoC back then with my characters. One remark though: Ruan Mei is IMHO a must-pull unit. It amplifies any team damage and is currently part of "insane" break meta. Ruan Mei enhances team damage about 33% (my gut calculations, no math involved), which is so visible in Pure Fiction (where 20K points suddenly raise to 30K and you can get all the stars).
As a f2p player that started from seele re rerun I have (from limited characters), seele, silver wolf, ruan mei, huo huo, ruan mei, firefly, yin lin. The latest 50/50 I lost was on robins first banner.
Most of my built characters are from 1.0, 70/200. Im thinking of vertical investing in them despite the game’s evident progression with niche archetypes. And while I noticed now that even if you have every element available-maybe it’s just me but I always get stumped by certain game modes with the current roster I have. Still, I rather the little challenge and the fact that i don’t have several under built characters.
Can I have strawberry shake?
@@vincikeeper1581 small, medium or large?
@@mcsmouche venti
@@vincikeeper1581 right answer. The secret passage is on your way down to the left.
Acheron.
There saved you 25 minutes
My pull history is almost identical. The only differences are that I pulled Jing Yuan instead of Jingliu, and Aventurine instead of Sparkle.
I rarely ever used Jing Yuan (regret pull) and I'm only just building Aventurine now. I only picked up Acheron for Quality of Life in the Simulated Universe, but Feixiao is the 1st limited 5* DPS in the game that I think actually looks good, so I'm considering it. But really, I just Screwllum 😅
Since Black Swan & DHIL rerun, I've not lost my 50/50 until I pulled for Jingliu. Lost my 50/50 again on Topaz rerun and managed to E1 (lucky pull).
And yes I think I've spent close to at least $1K (I think) on the characters and LCs that I want because I'm in a financially good space to splurge.
But this patch really made me save up cos I'm skipping JQ and pulling for Feixiao. I'm still trying to save up more jades in case I lose my 50/50 but I'm willing to 💳 if it comes to that point in time.
Ruan mei is the only must pull. This game is Ruan meis, we are just living in her world 🎤🎶🎼
Robin u mean?
Robin is better in most teams tbh
The game is called Honkai Ruan mei
Yeah robin is more of a mustpull now that follow up has emerge
@@wswann34 it wont stay forever.
damn bro you are unshakable!
0:19, you’re wrong… I got Acheron and she single handedly saved my account bcuz the 5 stars that I had before her had absolutely zero synergy with eachother. (BS, SW and Blade).
She carried me through everything
Yes. Strong units help but it's the team building around said units which actually define how a character performs. Your statement is weak because it's really actually how your resources are managed and are built upon to make said units. You looking narrowly on this topic and deeper.
It's interesting that the way I pull on the banner is exactly the same as listed except Archeron for Firefly
i was on the verge of giving up on hsr because i was getting kind of bored. then came yunli. she is so fun to play. now my current goal is to have the best built yunli and teams around her and to later invest in her vertically. will i get other characters? probably. but my tier list is yunli first, yunli teams second. everyone else third.
My story
I pulled blackswan with no intension and got her winning pity and oh man it works with most of the comps for me bc of her dots and def shread from her skill and her ult kit that makes the enemy receive more dmg at their turn
The only correct answer is character you like then supports / units that work with them
Yanqing is must pull. I cannot avoid pulling him. He is in all my 50/50s. He's E3 already and I don't have Himeko or Bronya yet. Help.
I started 2 months ago and he's E2 already
Each and every new harmony!
Thoughts on Feixiao and Jiaoqiu?
me who only pull for characters design and animation-wise
The Leader of Nutnation is Back!!!!!!!!!
So what you’re saying is Ruan Mei is 99% a must pull, but that 1% makes her not a must pull for everyone right? Jokes aside, I agree that no unit is a must pull ever, but there are certainly units who can get more value easily on anyone’s account regardless of what they’ve invested in.
(I start playing at 1.4)
I regret pulling Silver wolf on her rerun but it was an easy pull so its ok. I wish i had ARGENTI because Pure fiction is painful if your only PF unit is Herta.
Failed to get ACHERON.
Too broke for BOOTHILL.
Skipped FIREFLY despise the fact she 100% ruined superbreak.
Skipped ROBIN. Might get her in the future.
Skipped Inbibitor rerun. Seems like too much investment to go for E2S1 to turn him into a complete menace.
As someone who dosen't 0 cycle everything ; Aventurine is the one character that was an absolute game changer for survival and dealing free dmg.
Huo Huo was a ridiculously lucky one tap .Didn't planned to pull for her in the first place but she sure provide major value as healer and a battery. She was great for Tingyun/Jingliu and she is still great with Tingyun/Yunli.
Ruan Mei is Ruan Mei.
Sparkle is still good all over the place, even better if you have some team mate hungry for SP.
Yunli is great . My favorite unit since Aventurine. Don't care if she's meta or not tbh.
TLDR: Support still rules the game. 2 sustain, one for each team, like Aventurine & Huo Huo make your life super easy. Try to invest into a Pure Fiction unit. If you got Acheron and Firefly , you pretty much beat the game. Also Acheron is about to get her new best boi to make her even more absurd.
And obviously, if you're doing fine already, just pull for whatever you want . That's what i did with Yunli and i'm happy. Now saving for the FATE collab .
😅my main two dps are Acheron and Jingliu, guess we have similar tastes.
Scary hot ladies is my type
Started playing in 2.0
My (simple) advice:
If you're f2p like me; pick 2 archetypes (dot, fua, hyper, break, etc), and only pull units that support your chosen archetype.
I like fua, so I pulled for all the IPC units + robin. And I like acheron so I'm planning on pulling JQ. And I'm planning on getting all their LC when they rerun.
I always get the units I want with this and I can full clear all endgame
From gachas i've played its pretty much jus get good supports and almost any dps can work imo
Our pulls are SAME!
Huohuo is great. She's harmony and Abundance. So idk why u skipped her. Shes better than luocha imo(not as healing but as utillity and support)
Should i go for e2 acheron because i have sparkle and hella jades saved up or jiaqui with e0 acheron and pela
Honestly they have pretty much equal performances, sparkle is amazing for E2 Acheron , but Jiaoqui is still her best support even with her second eidolon
i must pull my waifu and husbando ❤❤❤
I 100% am getting Kafka in the upcoming rerun, but am also missing Black Swan and Huohuo. Should I prioritize Huohuo or Black Swan if my only healers are Lynx. Natasha, Gallagher?
personally i would go for black swan, kafka + black swan is a nuclear combination and whilst kafka is still an excellent, versatile character without black swan the dmg dealt by your team will be a lot lower. even though huohuo is much more than a healer, it's still the main thing you actually NEED to put her in a team for and it's a lot easier to replace her role (healing) with that of swan (huge numbers). We have two whole paths dedicated to keeping your team alive so there should be another character within the next few banners that you can pull after black swan as your 5 star sustain.
Bro healer or shielder is necessary in this game.I think getting huohuo is nice but its ur choice. If u can sustain with them go for black swan if not go for huohuo. If u are new player then u can easily get both of them.
Gallagher copies atleast E4, with a very fast 160+ speed...would be great for Dual DPS team comps.
SP generation is also a factor, on how smooth the rotations gonna be.
Coz you would prefer Black Swan and Kafka to be Skill spamming most of the time on their turns.
If you are set on playing DOT.
As a E0S1 DoT team owner, don't waste your money on kafka, rather get more Acheron's.
0:04 i mean those things are only a "must do" if you want to live 😅
Biggest regret pulling Blade. Even with Jade, he is just not up to par and is always benched. Jade and Jingyuan work better. A lot of units synergize well with Jing. I got Luocha and thought Blade would be fun with him. But he is still meh. Wish i got Kafka or Dan Heng IL insteas but i stopped playing for awhile and came back around Sparkle's debut who also works great with Jing.
Mine as simple, I see men and their teammates, I click.
For hyv games, here's my procedure to tell if a character is a 'must pull', I ask one simple question.
"Is this character Furina?"
Yes: = Must Pull
No: = Not a Must Pull
Tall waifu = Neuron activation (I pull)
cool insight
I pulled for Jing Yuan cause of VA, DanIL cause I liked how he played, I got Seele on her rerun cause HI3 but skipped Ruan Mei cause I was curious about the future
How I pull is based on if I like what the character does or I know the VA
Tldr harmony units lolz
Jk pull whoever depending on your goals I guess ( waifu, meta, both, for fun.) Personally I go for meta to get more rewards and easier content clearing
Oh this AS is meant to be feixiao domain?
It has wind weakness aventurine?
Go blade!
Im just looking what i need rn i have enough dps characters and harmony characters i need substain characters thats why im going for adventurine in the future
There is no must pull, except rm, she is must pull.
🤨 first pull on silver wolf is crazy lol
Every vertical invest could be more character on acc.
Honestly i just pulled everyone there are few characters i decided to skip which were Kafka, topaz, luocha and sone others cuz at the time they were niche
You were absolutely wrong. Not only is Hypercarry pretty much obsolete right now, but Robin is the best support. She clears RM in every team comp except break teams.
Robin clears in hypercarry, in dot, in fua, and in dual dps teams. She only loses to break for obvious reasons.
Yeah, but break is just that good of a team comp, and RM is still amazing in every other team. The buffs she provides are also universal, whereas Robin's are ATK scaling (not that there are a lot of non ATK scaling units tho).
So RM is still better than Robin globally imo.
Robin still rules in follow ups
Selee Still 0 cycles current MoC. HC isn't irrelevant/obsolete bro.
@@mongrelshadow14 seele lol she is extremely irrelevant. Hypercarry is still better with robin over rm.
@@mongrelshadow14Not without E1 Robin, though that's to be expected against non Quantum weak bosses
@@finiraelkhami8251Boothill still appreciates Robin's extra turns, and her ATK scalings aren't completed wasted on him either since he has Crit via his BE conversion trace. Boothill + Hunt March + Bronya + Robin is capable of 0 cycling the current MoC Argenti. Sure Boothill loves Ruan Mei but he isn't completely dependent on her.
The only team Robin doesn't work well with is Firefly. That's it.
harmonies
Only summon on female characters skip male characters
"When you play hypercarries, you have more jades" Thats just blatantly wrong since you pull for their eidolons and signatures which ends up costing more than a full fua team and that team still can clear all content with max rewards at e0s0. Your reasoning doesnt make sense, also the fact that youve spent much more money on the game further disprove your point.
Lets go through FUA team vs Hypercarries if you decide to pull their meta teams rn owning nothing:
Fua Team:
-Topaz (Sig is very big for them as for every hunt unit)
-Ratio (WAS free but will be replaced by feixiao who also suffers from hunt sigs being extreme boosts)
-Robin
-Aventurine
4 - 6 cost team with sig
Yunli (The most expensive generic hypercarry Meta team):
- Yunli
- Robin/Sparkle
- Tingyun
- Huohuo
3 - 4 cost team with sig
Firefly (2 cost with no sigs)
Jingliu (3-4 cost with sig)
Dhil (3-4 cost with sig)
Boothill (3 cost with sig)
FUA team is an expensive team and if we begin to ignore the amount of sustains/supports hypercarry teams share you still have to account for 2 the dual DPS nature of FUA team who both receive massive boosts from signatures.
I believe you take nut's reasoning wrong. He had existing two hypercarry teams with two 5* sustain already. He probably only needs two Golds (let's say one Gold equivalent to one 5* character or weapon) at least, or four Golds at most. On the other hand, if he want to builds another team, let's say fua, he will need three Gold at least, since neither of his five-star sustain are great for fua so he needs Aventurine, and might add one more Gold for Robin, since Robin is better than Ruan Mei in fua teams. So rather than spend four Golds or more just to make a team that performs no better than his existing teams, why not use those Golds to make existing one stronger?
Lolz wrong 😂
What is that microphone?
Feixiao is must pull, prove me otherwise
Ruan mei is must pull, don't prove me wrong 😂
this is actually really informative in a time when i needed this advice. i've always been a metachaser and loving my acheron (and her character too) and i just.. dont like JQ. it was stressing me out for no reason... i won't be pulling him.
Dude you skipped robin, avertine , firefly holy crap
robin isnt must pull and for aven he is must pull if you don't have 2 sustains, dps arent must pull bcs they will get powercreep in the future.
I skipped acheron, ruan mei and firefly 🔥🔥💀